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User: "Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced"
Date: 27 Oct 2003 10:51:09 PM
Object: Why I like NPR
There were two stories on "All Things Considered" tonight that I
thought were absolutely fascinating. They spend about them minutes
total on these stories, you won't find that kind of coverage anywhere
else.
Audio links can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/smzd
"Walter Cronkite: You Are There
Commentator Walter Cronkite discusses the program he hosted in the
1950s which used real network correspondents to tell historical
stories as if those stories were being televised live. The program
taught history, and had a secret history of its own. All the writers
were victims of the McCarthy-era blacklist. They used the tales of
Joan of Arc, Galileo, and others to make thinly disguised points
about contemporary witch-hunts."
At one point, Cronkite replays a section from a "You are There"
episode about Galileo's appearance before the inquisition. Then he
plays a recording of a McCarthy interrogation that occurred shortly
before the "You are There" program aired. The similarities are
striking.
"Wyoming Park Setting for Monument Dispute

A proposed monument for a Casper, Wyo., park condemns homosexuality -
- and specifically Matthew Shepard, the gay man beaten to death in
Laramie, Wyo. The man proposing the monument claims that since the
park has a monument to the Ten Commandments, he can't be banned from
expressing his views on homosexuals. NPR's Jeff Brady reports."

The minister is Fred Phelps. His monument would commemorate the day
Matthew Sheppard "went to hell." Ironically, Phelps is using a court
ruling that allows Ten Commandment monuments to be placed on public
property as long as other religous monuments are allowed. In effect,
his efforts will probably bring about the removal of a Ten
Commandments monument from a town park faster than any efforts by a
secular organization could.
--
"The administration has developed a highly effective propaganda
machine to imbed in the public mind mythologies that grow out of the
one central doctrine that all of the special interests agree on,
which -- in its purest form -- is that government is very bad and
should be done away with as much as possible -- except the parts of
it that redirect money through big contracts to industries that have
won their way into the inner circle."
--Al Gore
Tim
.

User: "Kermit"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 31 Oct 2003 02:35:36 PM
(hank) wrote in message news:<52d5a174.0310291031.66f05cd9@posting.google.com>...

Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message news:<Xns9421D4470A353timsomecallme@216.168.3.44>...

There were two stories on "All Things Considered" tonight that I
thought were absolutely fascinating. They spend about them minutes
total on these stories, you won't find that kind of coverage anywhere
else.

Audio links can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/smzd

"Walter Cronkite: You Are There

Commentator Walter Cronkite discusses the program he hosted in the
1950s which used real network correspondents to tell historical
stories as if those stories were being televised live. The program
taught history, and had a secret history of its own. All the writers
were victims of the McCarthy-era blacklist. They used the tales of
Joan of Arc, Galileo, and others to make thinly disguised points
about contemporary witch-hunts."

At one point, Cronkite replays a section from a "You are There"
episode about Galileo's appearance before the inquisition. Then he
plays a recording of a McCarthy interrogation that occurred shortly
before the "You are There" program aired. The similarities are
striking.

"Wyoming Park Setting for Monument Dispute

A proposed monument for a Casper, Wyo., park condemns homosexuality -
- and specifically Matthew Shepard, the gay man beaten to death in
Laramie, Wyo. The man proposing the monument claims that since the
park has a monument to the Ten Commandments, he can't be banned from
expressing his views on homosexuals. NPR's Jeff Brady reports."

The minister is Fred Phelps. His monument would commemorate the day
Matthew Sheppard "went to hell." Ironically, Phelps is using a court
ruling that allows Ten Commandment monuments to be placed on public
property as long as other religous monuments are allowed. In effect,
his efforts will probably bring about the removal of a Ten
Commandments monument from a town park faster than any efforts by a
secular organization could.


--
"The administration has developed a highly effective propaganda
machine to imbed in the public mind mythologies that grow out of the
one central doctrine that all of the special interests agree on,
which -- in its purest form -- is that government is very bad and
should be done away with as much as possible -- except the parts of
it that redirect money through big contracts to industries that have
won their way into the inner circle."
--Al Gore

Tim

....
Walter cronkite was a socialist / commie.....

he did what he was told ...to keep his job...

NPR has some good programs....

it also has too many gay stories...

Listen to it and you would swear that gays make up

half the population.

Also...NPR is very liberal/socialist

Socialist? What, you think that's the next stop on the train to
Liberlism? What program or interview do you know of which inidcates
that either the station or any of its on-air personlities are
socialist?

...and has a left

slant to the news and its stories...if you care to listen...

How would we determine where the fair middle is? Do you think there is
only one spectrum of opinion, with neocons on one end and liberals on
the other? Can you give an example of a story that was skewed by them?


Thats fine...just...NO federal money should go

to a political station that is unfair in its reporting...

Why not? ashcroft spent $8000 to cover up a statue's boobs.


...and your point about NPRs McCarthy story..in disguise...

it was a pro jewish story

So if a story condemns a conservative's oppressive or illegal
behavior, then any objection to such behavior is somehow support for a
whole group of people... Hmmm. Perhaps it was just a story about folks
dealing with a powerful bully. Who was likely an anti-Semite, but I
don't know. Perhaps he was one of the few of his political persuasion
who weren't. I rather thought the story was pro Constitution, pro
human rights, pro law, pro academic freedom. It never occurred to me
to think of it as pro Jewish; but that just me.

...most of the McCarthy

victims were jews...dig a little you will see the slant..

Maybe McCarthy was anti-Jewish. Maybe Jews are disproportionately
likely to end up as businessmen, lawyers, and artists. Maybe you're
talking through your hat. Maybe an educated and long-persecuted
minority is slightly more likely to be liberal. <shrug> Are you
suggesting that whichever of these scenarios is true, that McCarthy
was *not an unAmerican bully, a Torquemada wannabe?




peace
love
hank

peace
reason
--- Kermit
.
User: "hofffam"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 01 Nov 2003 12:03:05 AM

How would we determine where the fair middle is?
Do you think there is only one spectrum of opinion,
with neocons on one end and liberals on the other?

-----------------------
Hoffman replies:
Please henceforth refrain from feeding the neo-cons
ego by claiming that they are at the rightmost end of the
political spectrum, as they are most definately not.
"Neo-conservatives", generically speaking are the
left-most group of all conservatives from a politcal-philosophy
standpoint. The fact that they are the most agressive bullies is
completely beside the point and in no way makes them the
most "right wing" (other than perhaps in their deluded imagination).
Bullying and 'world domination' does not make one ultra-right
wing in any form of political philosophy that I've ever learned.
Bullying and Imperialism is NOT located on the opposite of
political spectrum from socialism and communism. Rather,
ultra-capitalism is at the opposite end of the spectrum from
ultra-communism, which therefore makes libertarians and
anarcho-capitalists the rightmost end of the spectrum followed
by "paleo-conservatives" who are a few notches to the left
of libertarians.
Neo-cons are "big government" meglomaniacs and they
have no problems whatsoever in spending taxpayer money to
pursue their imperialistic and omnipotent Ultra-State agenda...
which really makes them centrists or moderates leaning towards
left wing socialism... The neo-con agenda of taking taxpayer
money to feed the mighty leviathan, Ultra-State, is really no
different than socialists who take taxpayer money for other
more supposedly 'social' purposes. Either way, both groups
are taking taxpayer money for frivelous and non-essential
purposes, which makes them left-wing leaning.
.
User: "hank"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 03 Nov 2003 07:36:10 PM
"hofffam" <hoffman@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<t0Iob.42157$vX.6612060@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...

How would we determine where the fair middle is?
Do you think there is only one spectrum of opinion,
with neocons on one end and liberals on the other?

-----------------------

Hoffman replies:

Please henceforth refrain from feeding the neo-cons
ego by claiming that they are at the rightmost end of the
political spectrum, as they are most definately not.

"Neo-conservatives", generically speaking are the
left-most group of all conservatives from a politcal-philosophy
standpoint. The fact that they are the most agressive bullies is
completely beside the point and in no way makes them the
most "right wing" (other than perhaps in their deluded imagination).
Bullying and 'world domination' does not make one ultra-right
wing in any form of political philosophy that I've ever learned.
Bullying and Imperialism is NOT located on the opposite of
political spectrum from socialism and communism. Rather,
ultra-capitalism is at the opposite end of the spectrum from
ultra-communism, which therefore makes libertarians and
anarcho-capitalists the rightmost end of the spectrum followed
by "paleo-conservatives" who are a few notches to the left
of libertarians.

Neo-cons are "big government" meglomaniacs and they
have no problems whatsoever in spending taxpayer money to
pursue their imperialistic and omnipotent Ultra-State agenda...
which really makes them centrists or moderates leaning towards
left wing socialism... The neo-con agenda of taking taxpayer
money to feed the mighty leviathan, Ultra-State, is really no
different than socialists who take taxpayer money for other
more supposedly 'social' purposes. Either way, both groups
are taking taxpayer money for frivelous and non-essential
purposes, which makes them left-wing leaning.

.........
Well...I guess that makes rightwinghank a middle of the road
kinda guy...the "average American"
Gee..thanks..
peace
love
hank
.



User: "."

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 31 Oct 2003 08:26:28 PM
hank wrote:

Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message news:<Xns9421D4470A353timsomecallme@216.168.3.44>...

There were two stories on "All Things Considered" tonight that I
thought were absolutely fascinating. They spend about them minutes
total on these stories, you won't find that kind of coverage anywhere
else.

Audio links can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/smzd

"Walter Cronkite: You Are There

Commentator Walter Cronkite discusses the program he hosted in the
1950s which used real network correspondents to tell historical
stories as if those stories were being televised live. The program
taught history, and had a secret history of its own. All the writers
were victims of the McCarthy-era blacklist. They used the tales of
Joan of Arc, Galileo, and others to make thinly disguised points
about contemporary witch-hunts."

At one point, Cronkite replays a section from a "You are There"
episode about Galileo's appearance before the inquisition. Then he
plays a recording of a McCarthy interrogation that occurred shortly
before the "You are There" program aired. The similarities are
striking.

"Wyoming Park Setting for Monument Dispute

A proposed monument for a Casper, Wyo., park condemns homosexuality -
- and specifically Matthew Shepard, the gay man beaten to death in
Laramie, Wyo. The man proposing the monument claims that since the
park has a monument to the Ten Commandments, he can't be banned from
expressing his views on homosexuals. NPR's Jeff Brady reports."

The minister is Fred Phelps. His monument would commemorate the day
Matthew Sheppard "went to hell." Ironically, Phelps is using a court
ruling that allows Ten Commandment monuments to be placed on public
property as long as other religous monuments are allowed. In effect,
his efforts will probably bring about the removal of a Ten
Commandments monument from a town park faster than any efforts by a
secular organization could.


--
"The administration has developed a highly effective propaganda
machine to imbed in the public mind mythologies that grow out of the
one central doctrine that all of the special interests agree on,
which -- in its purest form -- is that government is very bad and
should be done away with as much as possible -- except the parts of
it that redirect money through big contracts to industries that have
won their way into the inner circle."
--Al Gore

Tim


....
Walter cronkite was a socialist / commie.....

he did what he was told ...to keep his job...

NPR has some good programs....

it also has too many gay stories...

Listen to it and you would swear that gays make up

half the population.

Also...NPR is very liberal/socialist...and has a left

slant to the news and its stories...if you care to listen...

Thats fine...just...NO federal money should go

to a political station that is unfair in its reporting...

...and your point about NPRs McCarthy story..in disguise...

it was a pro jewish story ...most of the McCarthy

victims were jews...dig a little you will see the slant..



peace
love
hank

I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..
.
User: "Bill Bonde the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 31 Oct 2003 12:38:05 PM
"." wrote:



I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..

Doesn't that make you pathetically trite?
.
User: "."

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 01 Nov 2003 12:23:20 AM
Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack ) wrote:


"." wrote:


I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..


Doesn't that make you pathetically trite?

It's fairly safe to assume that if right wing fuckwits
are against something, it's bound to be pretty righteous.
.
User: "hank"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 31 Oct 2003 05:56:38 PM
"." <.@coldmail.com> wrote in message news:<bnu962$rs7$4@bubba.NMSU.Edu>...

Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack ) wrote:


"." wrote:


I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..


Doesn't that make you pathetically trite?


It's fairly safe to assume that if right wing fuckwits
are against something, it's bound to be pretty righteous.

..........
Its OK...It is common for Teenagers to rebel against
father figures...and adults.
We understand.
Now..put down your pud and go study..
hank
.
User: "Orome"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 31 Oct 2003 06:08:19 PM
On 31 Oct 2003 15:56:38 -0800,
(hank) wrote:

"." <.@coldmail.com> wrote in message news:<bnu962$rs7$4@bubba.NMSU.Edu>...

Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack ) wrote:


"." wrote:


I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..


Doesn't that make you pathetically trite?


It's fairly safe to assume that if right wing fuckwits
are against something, it's bound to be pretty righteous.

.........
Its OK...It is common for Teenagers to rebel against

father figures...and adults.

We understand.

Now..put down your pud and go study..

I can almost guarantee that I'm older than you and.....believe me, you
don't want to know what I think of you.
But by all means, go on deluding yourself. You've very good at it.
--
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in
moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness." John Kenneth Galbraith
.
User: "hank"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 01 Nov 2003 02:37:13 PM
Orome wrote in message news:<34u5qvk1ttcr7m3jns3feal6h29bu2cm83@4ax.com>...

On 31 Oct 2003 15:56:38 -0800,

(hank) wrote:

"." <.@coldmail.com> wrote in message news:<bnu962$rs7$4@bubba.NMSU.Edu>...

Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack ) wrote:


"." wrote:


I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..


Doesn't that make you pathetically trite?


It's fairly safe to assume that if right wing fuckwits
are against something, it's bound to be pretty righteous.

.........
Its OK...It is common for Teenagers to rebel against

father figures...and adults.

We understand.

Now..put down your pud and go study..


I can almost guarantee that I'm older than you and.....believe me, you
don't want to know what I think of you.

But by all means, go on deluding yourself. You've very good at it.

...........
If you are older..act your age..act like you have some sense...
Get professional help...
hank
.
User: "Josh Bunton"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 02 Nov 2003 03:32:25 PM
Further it could be stated the right winger's (evil) Yeah! That must be it,
are against oppresion for other countries, and won't stand for it.
The left wing stands for What? War on Individuality, wants a great
Democratic UTOPIA. In their utopia they want everybody to be moraless,
murder's get glory while in jail. A society where everybody is equally
just, can't earn his or own way, lets be like North Korea, Iran! Let's
listen to the government for what we can and cannot do.
Geesh! Get real! Only thing right wingers are for is freedom and "LET
FREDOM RING BUD!" ... STand up and protect your own country. It outrages
me, NPR? No, it doesn't. What outrages me is that it is funded by public
tax dollars. Its a disgrace.
--
Josh Bunton
http://conservativeissues.com
"hank" <
> wrote in message
news:52d5a174.0311011237.44e3b624@posting.google.com...

Orome wrote in message

news:<34u5qvk1ttcr7m3jns3feal6h29bu2cm83@4ax.com>...

On 31 Oct 2003 15:56:38 -0800,

(hank) wrote:

"." <.@coldmail.com> wrote in message

news:<bnu962$rs7$4@bubba.NMSU.Edu>...

Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )

wrote:



"." wrote:


I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..


Doesn't that make you pathetically trite?


It's fairly safe to assume that if right wing fuckwits
are against something, it's bound to be pretty righteous.

.........
Its OK...It is common for Teenagers to rebel against

father figures...and adults.

We understand.

Now..put down your pud and go study..


I can almost guarantee that I'm older than you and.....believe me, you
don't want to know what I think of you.

But by all means, go on deluding yourself. You've very good at it.

..........
If you are older..act your age..act like you have some sense...

Get professional help...

hank

.
User: "hank"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 03 Nov 2003 07:31:25 PM
"Josh Bunton" <joshtryob@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<bo18q4$2k3t$1@news.wplus.net>...

Further it could be stated the right winger's (evil) Yeah! That must be it,
are against oppresion for other countries, and won't stand for it.

The left wing stands for What? War on Individuality, wants a great
Democratic UTOPIA. In their utopia they want everybody to be moraless,
murder's get glory while in jail. A society where everybody is equally
just, can't earn his or own way, lets be like North Korea, Iran! Let's
listen to the government for what we can and cannot do.

Geesh! Get real! Only thing right wingers are for is freedom and "LET
FREDOM RING BUD!" ... STand up and protect your own country. It outrages
me, NPR? No, it doesn't. What outrages me is that it is funded by public
tax dollars. Its a disgrace.


--
Josh Bunton
http://conservativeissues.com

"hank" <

> wrote in message
news:52d5a174.0311011237.44e3b624@posting.google.com...

Orome wrote in message

news:<34u5qvk1ttcr7m3jns3feal6h29bu2cm83@4ax.com>...

On 31 Oct 2003 15:56:38 -0800,

(hank) wrote:

"." <.@coldmail.com> wrote in message

news:<bnu962$rs7$4@bubba.NMSU.Edu>...

Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )

wrote:



"." wrote:


I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..


Doesn't that make you pathetically trite?


It's fairly safe to assume that if right wing fuckwits
are against something, it's bound to be pretty righteous.

.........
Its OK...It is common for Teenagers to rebel against

father figures...and adults.

We understand.

Now..put down your pud and go study..


I can almost guarantee that I'm older than you and.....believe me, you
don't want to know what I think of you.

But by all means, go on deluding yourself. You've very good at it.

..........
If you are older..act your age..act like you have some sense...

Get professional help...

hank

......
Right on Josh...well said...
hank
.

User: "Eric da Red"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 03 Nov 2003 11:47:12 AM
In article <bo18q4$2k3t$1@news.wplus.net>,
Josh Bunton <joshtryob@comcast.net> wrote:

Further it could be stated the right winger's (evil) Yeah! That must be it,
are against oppresion for other countries, and won't stand for it.

The left wing stands for What? War on Individuality, wants a great
Democratic UTOPIA. In their utopia they want everybody to be moraless,
murder's get glory while in jail. A society where everybody is equally
just, can't earn his or own way, lets be like North Korea, Iran! Let's
listen to the government for what we can and cannot do.

Are you trying to corner the straw market?
--
Quote Of The Week:
"It's going to be another one of those days." -- President David Palmer
.

User: "Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 01 Nov 2003 04:20:21 PM
On 02 Nov 2003, "Josh Bunton" <joshtryob@comcast.net> posted this:

The left wing stands for What? War on Individuality, wants a
great Democratic UTOPIA. In their utopia they want everybody to
be moraless

Please support your statement by citing evidence.

murder's get glory while in jail.

Please elaborate.

A society where
everybody is equally just, can't earn his or own way, lets be
like North Korea, Iran!

Name a liberal who is advocating that we be like either NK or Iran?

Let's listen to the government for what
we can and cannot do.

That's silly. How old are you?
--
"The privacy and dignity of our citizens [are] being whittled away by
sometimes imperceptible steps. Taken individually, each step may be
of little consequence. But when viewed as a whole, there begins to
emerge a society quite unlike any we have seen -- a society in which
government may intrude into the secret regions of a [person's] life."
--Justice William O. Douglas
Tim
"Fair and Balanced"
.
User: "el pelon @"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 02 Nov 2003 10:47:52 AM
Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced wrote:

On 02 Nov 2003, "Josh Bunton" <joshtryob@comcast.net> posted this:


The left wing stands for What? War on Individuality, wants a
great Democratic UTOPIA. In their utopia they want everybody to
be moraless



Please support your statement by citing evidence.


murder's get glory while in jail.



Please elaborate.


A society where
everybody is equally just, can't earn his or own way, lets be
like North Korea, Iran!



Name a liberal who is advocating that we be like either NK or Iran?


Let's listen to the government for what
we can and cannot do.



That's silly. How old are you?

--
"The privacy and dignity of our citizens [are] being whittled away by
sometimes imperceptible steps. Taken individually, each step may be
of little consequence. But when viewed as a whole, there begins to
emerge a society quite unlike any we have seen -- a society in which
government may intrude into the secret regions of a [person's] life."
--Justice William O. Douglas

Tim
"Fair and Balanced"

This is the standard right wing method - try to put
words into the mouths of Evil Liberals..
Create a strawman and then burn him to the ground.
A technique of massive lies, propagated by that
master liar himself, Rush Limbaugh. And imitated
by every right wing moron on the internet.
.
User: "hank"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 03 Nov 2003 07:32:55 PM
el pelon <@> wrote in message news:<3fa532a8@news.zianet.com>...

Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced wrote:

On 02 Nov 2003, "Josh Bunton" <joshtryob@comcast.net> posted this:


The left wing stands for What? War on Individuality, wants a
great Democratic UTOPIA. In their utopia they want everybody to
be moraless



Please support your statement by citing evidence.


murder's get glory while in jail.



Please elaborate.


A society where
everybody is equally just, can't earn his or own way, lets be
like North Korea, Iran!



Name a liberal who is advocating that we be like either NK or Iran?


Let's listen to the government for what
we can and cannot do.



That's silly. How old are you?

--
"The privacy and dignity of our citizens [are] being whittled away by
sometimes imperceptible steps. Taken individually, each step may be
of little consequence. But when viewed as a whole, there begins to
emerge a society quite unlike any we have seen -- a society in which
government may intrude into the secret regions of a [person's] life."
--Justice William O. Douglas

Tim
"Fair and Balanced"


This is the standard right wing method - try to put
words into the mouths of Evil Liberals..

Create a strawman and then burn him to the ground.

A technique of massive lies, propagated by that
master liar himself, Rush Limbaugh. And imitated
by every right wing moron on the internet.

.......
Another gem from "El *****"...
hank
.




User: "Orome"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 02 Nov 2003 07:22:08 PM
On 1 Nov 2003 12:37:13 -0800,
(hank) wrote:

Orome wrote in message news:<34u5qvk1ttcr7m3jns3feal6h29bu2cm83@4ax.com>...

On 31 Oct 2003 15:56:38 -0800,

(hank) wrote:


I can almost guarantee that I'm older than you and.....believe me, you
don't want to know what I think of you.

But by all means, go on deluding yourself. You've very good at it.

..........
If you are older..act your age..act like you have some sense...

Get professional help...

This, coming from someone with more hatred and xenophobia than I have
seen anywhere else on this forum.
Have you heard of the term "projection?"
--
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in
moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness." John Kenneth Galbraith
.






User: "The Frog"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 31 Oct 2003 11:19:43 AM
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:26:28 -0700, "." <.@coldmail.com> wrote:

hank wrote:

Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message news:<Xns9421D4470A353timsomecallme@216.168.3.44>...

There were two stories on "All Things Considered" tonight that I
thought were absolutely fascinating. They spend about them minutes
total on these stories, you won't find that kind of coverage anywhere
else.

Audio links can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/smzd

"Walter Cronkite: You Are There

Commentator Walter Cronkite discusses the program he hosted in the
1950s which used real network correspondents to tell historical
stories as if those stories were being televised live. The program
taught history, and had a secret history of its own. All the writers
were victims of the McCarthy-era blacklist. They used the tales of
Joan of Arc, Galileo, and others to make thinly disguised points
about contemporary witch-hunts."

At one point, Cronkite replays a section from a "You are There"
episode about Galileo's appearance before the inquisition. Then he
plays a recording of a McCarthy interrogation that occurred shortly
before the "You are There" program aired. The similarities are
striking.

"Wyoming Park Setting for Monument Dispute

A proposed monument for a Casper, Wyo., park condemns homosexuality -
- and specifically Matthew Shepard, the gay man beaten to death in
Laramie, Wyo. The man proposing the monument claims that since the
park has a monument to the Ten Commandments, he can't be banned from
expressing his views on homosexuals. NPR's Jeff Brady reports."

The minister is Fred Phelps. His monument would commemorate the day
Matthew Sheppard "went to hell." Ironically, Phelps is using a court
ruling that allows Ten Commandment monuments to be placed on public
property as long as other religous monuments are allowed. In effect,
his efforts will probably bring about the removal of a Ten
Commandments monument from a town park faster than any efforts by a
secular organization could.


--
"The administration has developed a highly effective propaganda
machine to imbed in the public mind mythologies that grow out of the
one central doctrine that all of the special interests agree on,
which -- in its purest form -- is that government is very bad and
should be done away with as much as possible -- except the parts of
it that redirect money through big contracts to industries that have
won their way into the inner circle."
--Al Gore

Tim


....
Walter cronkite was a socialist / commie.....

he did what he was told ...to keep his job...

NPR has some good programs....

it also has too many gay stories...

Listen to it and you would swear that gays make up

half the population.

Also...NPR is very liberal/socialist...and has a left

slant to the news and its stories...if you care to listen...

Thats fine...just...NO federal money should go

to a political station that is unfair in its reporting...

...and your point about NPRs McCarthy story..in disguise...

it was a pro jewish story ...most of the McCarthy

victims were jews...dig a little you will see the slant..



peace
love
hank


I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..

You cold also have government funded newspapers as well.......just
like Pravda.....
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The multicultural project will never fully succeed if 'diversity'
is defined as one's own preferred ideologies and political groups."
--Richard E. Redding, "Grappling With Diverse Conceptions of Diversity,"
American Psychologist, April 2002, p. 301.
.
User: "Orome"

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 31 Oct 2003 11:51:05 AM
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:19:43 -0600, The Frog <jmattNOSPAM@ticnet.com>
wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:26:28 -0700, "." <.@coldmail.com> wrote:


I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..


You cold also have government funded newspapers as well.......just
like Pravda.....

Yet more fuzzy logic from the right-wing.
Pravda was (is?) government-owned and, pay attention here, spouted the
government line -- think Fox news, only much, much worse.
NPR receives a small amount of its funding from the government and
toes NOBODY'S line.
There is no comparison between the two.
--
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in
moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness." John Kenneth Galbraith
.

User: "."

Title: Re: Why I like NPR 01 Nov 2003 12:22:38 AM
The Frog wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:26:28 -0700, "." <.@coldmail.com> wrote:


hank wrote:


Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message news:<Xns9421D4470A353timsomecallme@216.168.3.44>...


There were two stories on "All Things Considered" tonight that I
thought were absolutely fascinating. They spend about them minutes
total on these stories, you won't find that kind of coverage anywhere
else.

Audio links can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/smzd

"Walter Cronkite: You Are There

Commentator Walter Cronkite discusses the program he hosted in the
1950s which used real network correspondents to tell historical
stories as if those stories were being televised live. The program
taught history, and had a secret history of its own. All the writers
were victims of the McCarthy-era blacklist. They used the tales of
Joan of Arc, Galileo, and others to make thinly disguised points
about contemporary witch-hunts."

At one point, Cronkite replays a section from a "You are There"
episode about Galileo's appearance before the inquisition. Then he
plays a recording of a McCarthy interrogation that occurred shortly
before the "You are There" program aired. The similarities are
striking.

"Wyoming Park Setting for Monument Dispute

A proposed monument for a Casper, Wyo., park condemns homosexuality -
- and specifically Matthew Shepard, the gay man beaten to death in
Laramie, Wyo. The man proposing the monument claims that since the
park has a monument to the Ten Commandments, he can't be banned from
expressing his views on homosexuals. NPR's Jeff Brady reports."

The minister is Fred Phelps. His monument would commemorate the day
Matthew Sheppard "went to hell." Ironically, Phelps is using a court
ruling that allows Ten Commandment monuments to be placed on public
property as long as other religous monuments are allowed. In effect,
his efforts will probably bring about the removal of a Ten
Commandments monument from a town park faster than any efforts by a
secular organization could.


--
"The administration has developed a highly effective propaganda
machine to imbed in the public mind mythologies that grow out of the
one central doctrine that all of the special interests agree on,
which -- in its purest form -- is that government is very bad and
should be done away with as much as possible -- except the parts of
it that redirect money through big contracts to industries that have
won their way into the inner circle."
--Al Gore

Tim


....
Walter cronkite was a socialist / commie.....

he did what he was told ...to keep his job...

NPR has some good programs....

it also has too many gay stories...

Listen to it and you would swear that gays make up

half the population.

Also...NPR is very liberal/socialist...and has a left

slant to the news and its stories...if you care to listen...

Thats fine...just...NO federal money should go

to a political station that is unfair in its reporting...

...and your point about NPRs McCarthy story..in disguise...

it was a pro jewish story ...most of the McCarthy

victims were jews...dig a little you will see the slant..



peace
love
hank


I like NPR because incredibly stupid right wing sons of
bitches such as Hankie the Wankie DON'T..



You cold also have government funded newspapers as well.......just
like Pravda.....



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The multicultural project will never fully succeed if 'diversity'
is defined as one's own preferred ideologies and political groups."

--Richard E. Redding, "Grappling With Diverse Conceptions of Diversity,"
American Psychologist, April 2002, p. 301.

We have something far worse - the Fox News Channel.
.




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