On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:35:38 -0800, "Precision" <precision@Usenet.com>
wrote:

The tendency to blame God for human suffering and then mask that anger by
denying God's existence is age old. Atheism will continue to march forward
as long as its foot soldiers are unwilling to face the reality that human
imperfection and irresponsibility - and not God - has always been the
foundation for human suffering.

Where are all these morons coming from? What part of YOU WOULD HAVE TO
THINK IT EXISTED IN ORDER TO BLAME IT FOR ANYTHING are you pretending
you don't understand?

Are you really this stupid, or just being an *****?

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:35:38 -0800, "Precision" <precision@Usenet.com>
wrote:

The tendency to blame God for human suffering and then mask that anger by
denying God's existence is age old. Atheism will continue to march forward
as long as its foot soldiers are unwilling to face the reality that human
imperfection and irresponsibility - and not God - has always been the
foundation for human suffering.

Where are all these morons coming from? What part of YOU WOULD HAVE TO
THINK IT EXISTED IN ORDER TO BLAME IT FOR ANYTHING are you pretending
you don't understand?

Are you really this stupid, or just being an *****?

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:35:38 -0800, "Precision" <precision@Usenet.com>
wrote:

The tendency to blame God for human suffering and then mask that anger by
denying God's existence is age old. Atheism will continue to march forward
as long as its foot soldiers are unwilling to face the reality that human
imperfection and irresponsibility - and not God - has always been the
foundation for human suffering.

Where are all these morons coming from? What part of YOU WOULD HAVE TO
THINK IT EXISTED IN ORDER TO BLAME IT FOR ANYTHING are you pretending
you don't understand?

Are you really this stupid, or just being an *****?

Precision wrote:

"Zhav" <Invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Jehovah God created the first human pair perfect [snip]

Precision wrote:

"Zhav" <Invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Philosopher Celestine N. Bittle wrote in his book God and His Creatures:
No people has ever been discovered which, in the strict sense of the term,
is atheistic. Individuals may be atheists; but a people, never. This
universal belief is a tremendous fact.

is because of the unparalleled human suffering in the earth that many
persons question the existence of God. This was pointed out by a retired
Anglican medical missionary, Marian Sherman, who said last fall: I became
an atheist very largely because of the terrible suffering of Indian women
who had never done anything to deserve it. How could an all-loving God
allow this to happen? And weve had two ghastly world wars. It just doesnt
make sense.

Not a few persons reason this way. A loving God, they feel, would not
allow human suffering; and since suffering exists, they conclude, there
must not be a God who is loving. Is this conclusion justified?

Of course this conclusion is not justified.

It is similar with mankind today. The inspired Scriptures show that
Jehovah God created the first human pair perfect, with the prospect of
enjoying life in an earthly paradise as long as they lived. This
provision was an evidence of God’s love. But when mankind refused to
follow God’s instructions,

they suffered the consequences. This did not
mean a loving God does not exist.

God had warned them in advance what
would happen;

so it was man, not God, that was responsible for the
suffering, sickness and death that followed.—Gen. 1:27, 28; Deut. 32:4,
5; Eccl. 7:29.

Precision wrote:

"Zhav" <Invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Philosopher Celestine N. Bittle wrote in his book God and His Creatures:

would happen; so it was man, not God, that was responsible for the
suffering, sickness and death that followed.—Gen. 1:27, 28; Deut. 32:4,
5; Eccl. 7:29.

"Zhav" <Invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Apwff.342$NN2.144@trnddc02...

Philosopher Celestine N. Bittle wrote in his book God and His Creatures:
"No people has ever been discovered which, in the strict sense of the
term, is 'atheistic.' Individuals may be atheists; but a people, never.
This universal belief is a tremendous fact."

is because of the unparalleled human suffering in the earth that many
persons question the existence of God. This was pointed out by a retired
Anglican medical missionary, Marian Sherman, who said last fall: "I

an atheist very largely because of the terrible suffering of Indian

who had never done anything to deserve it. How could an all-loving God
allow this to happen? And we've had two ghastly world wars. It just

make sense."

Not a few persons reason this way. A loving God, they feel, would not
allow human suffering; and since suffering exists, they conclude, there
must not be a God who is loving. Is this conclusion justified?

Of course I can't speak for all atheists, but the reason I go on the march
is when the religious zealots go on the march and try to invade the public
schools with IDiotic *****. And as far as a loving god - I have never
seen any evidence that any sort of god or gods exist. They are completely
irrelevant to anything going on in the world today.

If there actually is a god or some supreme creator, he/she/it obviously
can't or won't stop tsunamis or wars or hurricanes. But apparently,
according to my sister, he/she/it can help her find lost dogs. And I guess
getting the freaks at the pentacostal church to speack jibberish is also
important to god.

My mother tells me praying actually works. If that is the case, when we

a hurricane coming for a week, why can't everyone pray to stop it. Is

listening and maybe some people are praying that the hurricane will
devistate an entire state and god can't decide what would be better? Maybe
putting his son's face on a grilled cheese sandwich is more important. If
you what to believe this fairy tale, go ahead and have fun. Give 10% of

hard earned money to your favorite church. I don't care. Just don't try to
justify your silly beliefs by trying to force them on our kids.

Of course I can't speak for all atheists, but the reason I go on the march
is when the religious zealots go on the march and try to invade the public
schools with IDiotic *****.

In talk.atheism Zhav <Invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Philosopher Celestine N. Bittle wrote in his book God and His Creatures:
"No people has ever been discovered which, in the strict sense of the
term, is 'atheistic.' Individuals may be atheists; but a people, never.
This universal belief is a tremendous fact."

No "people" have been found that are xian or buddist or jewish as a whole.
I.e. there IS no "universal belief" other than one that "something higher
than us exists" and even that's not universal.

--
Mike

atheism: a non-prophet organization...
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Creation Science: an oxymoron actually created by morons...
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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop
thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do
we," George W. "Shrub" Bush Aug 5, 2004

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:50:08 GMT, Zhav <Invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Philosopher Celestine N. Bittle wrote in his book God and His Creatures:
“No people has ever been discovered which, in the strict sense of the
term, is ‘atheistic.£ Individuals may be atheists; but a people, never.
This universal belief is a tremendous fact.”

The belief is not universal nor is it a fact.

is because of the unparalleled human suffering in the earth that many
persons question the existence of God. This was pointed out by a retired
Anglican medical missionary, Marian Sherman, who said last fall: “I
became an atheist very largely because of the terrible suffering of
Indian women who had never done anything to deserve it. How could an
all-loving God allow this to happen? And we£ve had two ghastly world
wars. It just doesn£t make sense.”

Not a few persons reason this way. A loving God, they feel, would not
allow human suffering; and since suffering exists, they conclude, there
must not be a God who is loving. Is this conclusion justified?

By myraids of thousands of years of objective evidence.

--

Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)

Not a few persons reason this way. A loving God, they feel, would not
allow human suffering; and since suffering exists, they conclude, there
must not be a God who is loving. Is this conclusion justified?