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"Michael Wallace" |
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13 Jan 2006 05:04:45 PM |
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Why Islam Can Never Be Appeased |
The religion of *****, you have to love it. It's always worth a laugh
to see the apologists twist themselves into pretzels trying to justify
the actions of these savages - particularly things like the actions of
the Muslims in the linking article mindlessly chanting "Death to
America and Israel". What's more disturbing is that many apologists
are will go so far as to defend the rights of these mindless people to
have nuclear weapons. Truly a case of the mindless defending the
mindless...
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=18955&catcode=13
Why Islam Can Never Be Appeased
Written by Pete Fisher
Friday, January 13, 2006
I have to shake my head in disbelief just about every day when I
listen to people who have no clue about Islam or what is happening all
around the world.
I still have a very hard time buying into the claims by many of our
politicians and media that this is somehow a peaceful religion. This
does not mean that every Muslim out in this world is violent. I am not
saying that at all. But what I AM saying is that Islam is the perfect
spring board for violent acts of every kind and is simply unchecked by
its own members.
This week in Mecca we can watch the video from Memri go here:
http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=991where
in the height of the Muslim spiritual Hadj, the holiest time and
holiest site in all of Islam, are Muslims screaming for the death and
mutilation of all infidels, but specifically Americans and Jews. They
cry to their god for our hands to be chopped off and to be murdered
while thanking Allah for his greatness.
And in Mount Arafat this week the people who were on Hadj were told
that there was a huge holy war against Islam ongoing in this world
right now, according to the Grand Mufi of Saudi Arabia.
We are now finding that Saddam did provide for terrorist training, we
see evidence that Syria was involved in goading Iraqi terrorists into
action, we see recruiting in Europe and Canada as well as the USA. We
see Muslims worldwide who refuse to live as their host nations live,
but rather demand those nations bend to the will of Islam. Rapes have
become the crime of choice for many Muslim men living in Australia and
Europe, where violent crimes in many of these countries has risen to
heights unknown before the Islamic immigration into those nations.
The Palestinians will never be satisfied with the way Israel has bent
backwards trying to appease them. They still scream for blood, and
they still train their children in the ways of death and slaughter.
Iran has snubbed their nose at the IAEA and the rest of the world with
it’s cat and mouse tactics on nuclear technology. They claim they need
the power, but in truth, the population of Iran has never been the
concern of the mullahs running the place. All they care about is
pushing Islam as a world power and desire the technology to use it as
a terror threat when they deem it necessary.
Islam has no concern for human rights if one looks around the world.
There are no storms of people protesting the rapes and oppression by
the millions, even when perpetrated on Muslims, by Muslims. They have
no care for the Sudan where they shoot at innocent women and children
as they drink from the muddy Wadi because they have no other source of
water due to Muslims destroying their lives, land and population.
The funny thing is, Muslim women have written to me telling me the
wonderful rights they have, all the while being forced to wear a head
cover and not even being able to drive or shop without a male escort.
And the Saudis are concerned that when we report such inane and evil
events that we as the West are chasing people away from Islam.
This to me is the typical Islam double standard and total lack of
responsibility so prevalent in the religion. Not long ago in Sydney, a
well known Lebanese Sheik Faiz Mohammed publicly condoned raping of
women by saying they had no one to blame but themselves. It is not
the fault of the Muslim male; it had to be the fault of the victim.
Much like the Democrats in America, the criminal did what they did for
any other purpose that by personal choice. Whether it is their
upbringing, abuse, poverty, wealth, illness, being bullied, all lame
excuses that have actually been used in our courts. And because of
this like-minded philosophy, Islam can never blame itself for its own
shortcomings or actions. If one of them rapes, it was the fault of the
victim for wearing no socks. If a schoolhouse got bombed and children
slaughtered in innocent blood, it was the fault of the village or
country not accepting Islam that made them bomb it.
If Palestinians are starving in dire poverty due to Arafat having
skimmed the coffers and pocketed the money, then it must be the Jews
who are not allowing them into Israel. If the Jews do not want them in
Israel because they cannot abstain from terror and crime, then it must
be an agenda against Islam and Jihad must be waged. It can not be that
they are simply terrorists and like Jordan and Syria before Israel,
they are not wanted due to their proclivities.
In the mind of Islam, anything that is not Islam is at fault for their
people starving, at fault if they fight each other, at fault if acts
of extreme cowardice are used to make a political point. It is the
fault of all others on Earth that they refuse to help their own and
the image they put to the world. It is NOT the West chasing people
away from Islam. It is Islam chasing people away. It is the actions of
Muslims, it is the writings of the Koran and Hadiths, it is the
questionable life of Mohammed himself that keep people away from
Islam. It is the silence of Muslims when their own commit acts so
diabolical it would take the Devil himself some trouble to devise.
It is the chaos within Islam and the chaos it creates without that
make human beings shake their heads in disbelief at the horrors
committed in the name of their god. But we who are civilized can never
teach those who refuse to hear.
It is simply easier for Islam to blame the rest of the world for the
evil it creates and commands through the Koran. It is much easier to
hide behind the lies than to look at the deceit within. It is easier
to write off the starvation, blood letting, and lust for murder with
Koranic passages than to actually become human beings that care for
one another.
It is easier for Muslims around the globe to say nothing while their
own walk this Earth spewing evil. It is easier for many to believe
that just because a few of the billions do not act like this, it may
have enough peaceful elements to actually be placed in the Great
Religion category. But those who have befriended Islam have been
bitten badly by the ones they reached to. France, Spain, England, The
Netherlands, Finland, Canada, USA, and many African nations have
learned the price of treating them like decent and civilized people.
They have been attacked from within, they have been demanded to change
laws that favor Islam, they seen crime rates rise, and they have been
berated by these people.
This is a simple thing really. It stems from a great arrogance that
Islam and only Islam is to survive on Earth at any cost. Though
arrogance is evident in other religions to some extant, it is the
mainstay of Islam and because oft his millions are enslaved by Islam
and millions die by the hand of the followers of Mohammed.
And because of this, Islam can never be appeased. It is never enough
until they dominate. It will never be enough until they make all the
laws. It can never be enough as long as there are those who refuse to
buy into Mohammed and his 6,666 verses called Koran. It can never be
appeased until it is fully dominant, or until it does not exist to
create the evil it does on a daily basis.
I love my fellow man, and I love animals, but even a rabid dog is shot
to protect the townsfolk from the death a bite.
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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19 Jan 2006 06:45:29 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:38:11 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
}
}William Wingstedt wrote ...
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
}>
}> >
}> >
}> >
}> >
}> >Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message news:ulbgs1dhua0as4hk3vh5p2ugo0qqa7k7qk@4ax.com...
}> >
}> >
}> >Are the xtians etc. really any fucking better ?
}> >It wasn't that long ago that xtians were killing people because they
}> >believed they were witches etc. etc.
}> >There are many fundies around today who believe every word in the
}> >bible....every religion has fruitcakes, some have more fruitcakes at
}> >any one time than the rest.
}> >
}>
}> What I don't get about these religions is, why do their gods needs so
}> much help? I figure that if a god wants somebody dead, let it do it,
}> certainly it has the power, doesn't it?. Why must it engage humans in
}> its dirty work? It just goes to show that every action this god
}> character has attributed to it, is indistinguishable from inaction,
}> and in this case, it seems that people derive some sick pleasure out
}> of killing other people, and excuse it by explaining that they are the
}> agents of their gods. I am not in favor of this sort of god. If I
}> believed in it, I would not worship it. As I design my god, I would
}> have it only do good and positive things. It would, for instance, upon
}> noticing that some of its creations were doing bad things, change
}> them, have them do good things instead and, make what bad they had
}> done as if it never was. That would be the sort of awesomeness I would
}> expect from any gods I might entertain my delusions with. But a god
}> that expects me to kill people for it? No thanks. That's just not the
}> sort of god I'd be interested in believing in. I'll be content not to
}> believe in gods at all, especially because it might distract me from
}> what has become an increasingly arduous task, protecting myself from
}> other peoples poorly designed deities and their misguided beliefs in
}> them...
}>
}> W\/W
}
}Quite right.
}BTW
}If god exists, he/she/it should have an email address.
}If not, he/she/it does not exist.
};)
}
Define god?
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| User: "Rifty" |
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20 Jan 2006 09:57:25 PM |
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Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote:
Define god?
Very good question. Two in one day. You're learning to ask the right
ones; my coaching must be working. If we can just sort out your skills
in writing the answer bit now....
Rifty
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Academic and Computing Help
http://rifty.net
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| User: "fritz" |
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19 Jan 2006 05:52:26 PM |
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Michael Wallace wrote ..
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:38:11 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
}
}William Wingstedt wrote ...
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
}>
}> >
}> >
}> >
}> >
}> >Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message news:ulbgs1dhua0as4hk3vh5p2ugo0qqa7k7qk@4ax.com...
}> >
}> >
}> >Are the xtians etc. really any fucking better ?
}> >It wasn't that long ago that xtians were killing people because they
}> >believed they were witches etc. etc.
}> >There are many fundies around today who believe every word in the
}> >bible....every religion has fruitcakes, some have more fruitcakes at
}> >any one time than the rest.
}> >
}>
}> What I don't get about these religions is, why do their gods needs so
}> much help? I figure that if a god wants somebody dead, let it do it,
}> certainly it has the power, doesn't it?. Why must it engage humans in
}> its dirty work? It just goes to show that every action this god
}> character has attributed to it, is indistinguishable from inaction,
}> and in this case, it seems that people derive some sick pleasure out
}> of killing other people, and excuse it by explaining that they are the
}> agents of their gods. I am not in favor of this sort of god. If I
}> believed in it, I would not worship it. As I design my god, I would
}> have it only do good and positive things. It would, for instance, upon
}> noticing that some of its creations were doing bad things, change
}> them, have them do good things instead and, make what bad they had
}> done as if it never was. That would be the sort of awesomeness I would
}> expect from any gods I might entertain my delusions with. But a god
}> that expects me to kill people for it? No thanks. That's just not the
}> sort of god I'd be interested in believing in. I'll be content not to
}> believe in gods at all, especially because it might distract me from
}> what has become an increasingly arduous task, protecting myself from
}> other peoples poorly designed deities and their misguided beliefs in
}> them...
}>
}> W\/W
}
}Quite right.
}BTW
}If god exists, he/she/it should have an email address.
}If not, he/she/it does not exist.
};)
}
Define god?
God is The TRULY Omnipotent One.
The One who surely should AT LEAST have an email address, unless he/she/it is
really imaginary/impotent, just a figment of ignorant human's imagination.
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| User: "Rifty" |
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20 Jan 2006 09:57:24 PM |
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fritz <fritz@address.com> wrote:
The One who surely should AT LEAST have an email address
God@heaven.biz
I thought of sending an email but I'm scared I might get a reply.
Rifty
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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| Title: Re: Why Islam Can Never Be Appeased |
13 Jan 2006 06:07:59 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
Ah, Fritz, can't see the forest for the Christians? A couple of points
to help you out:
1) The country you're living in is probably predominantly Christian
and has many of its laws and traditions based upon Christian values.
Yet, you are able to hold your own beliefs and live an act as you
please. Do you honestly believe you would have the same rights under
Islam? Or perhaps you believe good Muslims just want to get along,
they don't want to impost their barbaric religion upon others?
2) What you describe happened a long time ago and while there are
certainly kooks around in the Christian fringes they hardly compare as
a threat to our way of life in the West as Islam does. Remember a
moderate Muslim believes we should all be living under Islamic law -
as Muslims and any cause and means that brings that closer is
justified.
3) The argument/excuse that Christians (or enter your religion of
choice) did this that or the other once so therefore the actions of
Muslims is justified now doesn't wash. We are in the present and any
group be it Muslims, Branch Davidians, Raelians should be judged by
today's morals/values/laws.
}
}Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message news:ulbgs1dhua0as4hk3vh5p2ugo0qqa7k7qk@4ax.com...
}
}
}Are the xtians etc. really any fucking better ?
}It wasn't that long ago that xtians were killing people because they
}believed they were witches etc. etc.
}There are many fundies around today who believe every word in the
}bible....every religion has fruitcakes, some have more fruitcakes at
}any one time than the rest.
}
}
}
}>
}> The religion of *****, you have to love it. It's always worth a laugh
}> to see the apologists twist themselves into pretzels trying to justify
}> the actions of these savages - particularly things like the actions of
}> the Muslims in the linking article mindlessly chanting "Death to
}> America and Israel". What's more disturbing is that many apologists
}> are will go so far as to defend the rights of these mindless people to
}> have nuclear weapons. Truly a case of the mindless defending the
}> mindless...
}>
}....snip.....
}
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| User: "Zappy" |
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| Title: Re: Why Islam Can Never Be Appeased |
14 Jan 2006 10:43:06 PM |
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"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
news:49fgs1dh11oehobqgorirjto25cojkf05o@4ax.com...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
Ah, Fritz, can't see the forest for the Christians? A couple of points
to help you out:
1) The country you're living in is probably predominantly Christian
and has many of its laws and traditions based upon Christian values.
Yet, you are able to hold your own beliefs and live an act as you
please. Do you honestly believe you would have the same rights under
Islam? Or perhaps you believe good Muslims just want to get along,
they don't want to impost their barbaric religion upon others?
2) What you describe happened a long time ago and while there are
certainly kooks around in the Christian fringes they hardly compare as
a threat to our way of life in the West as Islam does. Remember a
moderate Muslim believes we should all be living under Islamic law -
as Muslims and any cause and means that brings that closer is
justified.
3) The argument/excuse that Christians (or enter your religion of
choice) did this that or the other once so therefore the actions of
Muslims is justified now doesn't wash. We are in the present and any
group be it Muslims, Branch Davidians, Raelians should be judged by
today's morals/values/laws.
That is a ridiculous argument. There were people right down through the ages
who opposed the more murderous christian among them. The values that we
espouse today are no different to what they were then.
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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| Title: Re: Why Islam Can Never Be Appeased |
15 Jan 2006 05:46:04 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:43:06 GMT, "Zappy" <zapkvr@ncable.net.au>
wrote:
}
}"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}news:49fgs1dh11oehobqgorirjto25cojkf05o@4ax.com...
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
}>
}> Ah, Fritz, can't see the forest for the Christians? A couple of points
}> to help you out:
}>
}> 1) The country you're living in is probably predominantly Christian
}> and has many of its laws and traditions based upon Christian values.
}> Yet, you are able to hold your own beliefs and live an act as you
}> please. Do you honestly believe you would have the same rights under
}> Islam? Or perhaps you believe good Muslims just want to get along,
}> they don't want to impost their barbaric religion upon others?
}>
}> 2) What you describe happened a long time ago and while there are
}> certainly kooks around in the Christian fringes they hardly compare as
}> a threat to our way of life in the West as Islam does. Remember a
}> moderate Muslim believes we should all be living under Islamic law -
}> as Muslims and any cause and means that brings that closer is
}> justified.
}>
}> 3) The argument/excuse that Christians (or enter your religion of
}> choice) did this that or the other once so therefore the actions of
}> Muslims is justified now doesn't wash. We are in the present and any
}> group be it Muslims, Branch Davidians, Raelians should be judged by
}> today's morals/values/laws.
}
}That is a ridiculous argument. There were people right down through the ages
}who opposed the more murderous christian among them. The values that we
}espouse today are no different to what they were then.
}
So you're claiming that values and moral codes haven't changed for
millennia?
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| User: "Zappy" |
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| Title: Re: Why Islam Can Never Be Appeased |
30 Jan 2006 04:42:53 PM |
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"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
news:gedks15l8grkudlhfvvkkdl523mpqlli84@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:43:06 GMT, "Zappy" <zapkvr@ncable.net.au>
wrote:
}
}"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}news:49fgs1dh11oehobqgorirjto25cojkf05o@4ax.com...
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
}>
}> Ah, Fritz, can't see the forest for the Christians? A couple of points
}> to help you out:
}>
}> 1) The country you're living in is probably predominantly Christian
}> and has many of its laws and traditions based upon Christian values.
}> Yet, you are able to hold your own beliefs and live an act as you
}> please. Do you honestly believe you would have the same rights under
}> Islam? Or perhaps you believe good Muslims just want to get along,
}> they don't want to impost their barbaric religion upon others?
}>
}> 2) What you describe happened a long time ago and while there are
}> certainly kooks around in the Christian fringes they hardly compare as
}> a threat to our way of life in the West as Islam does. Remember a
}> moderate Muslim believes we should all be living under Islamic law -
}> as Muslims and any cause and means that brings that closer is
}> justified.
}>
}> 3) The argument/excuse that Christians (or enter your religion of
}> choice) did this that or the other once so therefore the actions of
}> Muslims is justified now doesn't wash. We are in the present and any
}> group be it Muslims, Branch Davidians, Raelians should be judged by
}> today's morals/values/laws.
}
}That is a ridiculous argument. There were people right down through the
ages
}who opposed the more murderous christian among them. The values that we
}espouse today are no different to what they were then.
}
So you're claiming that values and moral codes haven't changed for
millennia?
You're joking right? Fundamental moral values have not changed. Just because
slavery existed for millenia it doesn't mean that there weren't people who
argued against it on moral grounds. The same goes for the oppression of
women and children.
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| User: "maff" |
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19 Jan 2006 10:33:02 AM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:43:06 GMT, "Zappy" <zapkvr@ncable.net.au>
wrote:
}
}"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}news:49fgs1dh11oehobqgorirjto25cojkf05o@4ax.com...
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
}>
}> Ah, Fritz, can't see the forest for the Christians? A couple of points
}> to help you out:
}>
}> 1) The country you're living in is probably predominantly Christian
}> and has many of its laws and traditions based upon Christian values.
}> Yet, you are able to hold your own beliefs and live an act as you
}> please. Do you honestly believe you would have the same rights under
}> Islam? Or perhaps you believe good Muslims just want to get along,
}> they don't want to impost their barbaric religion upon others?
}>
}> 2) What you describe happened a long time ago and while there are
}> certainly kooks around in the Christian fringes they hardly compare as
}> a threat to our way of life in the West as Islam does. Remember a
}> moderate Muslim believes we should all be living under Islamic law -
}> as Muslims and any cause and means that brings that closer is
}> justified.
}>
}> 3) The argument/excuse that Christians (or enter your religion of
}> choice) did this that or the other once so therefore the actions of
}> Muslims is justified now doesn't wash. We are in the present and any
}> group be it Muslims, Branch Davidians, Raelians should be judged by
}> today's morals/values/laws.
}
}That is a ridiculous argument. There were people right down through the ages
}who opposed the more murderous christian among them. The values that we
}espouse today are no different to what they were then.
}
So you're claiming that values and moral codes haven't changed for
millennia?
A Century Of U.S. Military Interventions: From Wounded Knee to
Afghanistan
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/9d53d6be8936ff5b
Christian atrocities
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/2b62a1f5e94cbbbd
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| User: "fritz" |
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| Title: Re: Why Islam Can Never Be Appeased |
13 Jan 2006 07:08:13 PM |
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Michael Wallace wrote ...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
Ah, Fritz, can't see the forest for the Christians? A couple of points
to help you out:
How magnanimous of you....
1) The country you're living in is probably predominantly Christian
and has many of its laws and traditions based upon Christian values.
Yet, you are able to hold your own beliefs and live an act as you
please. Do you honestly believe you would have the same rights under
Islam? Or perhaps you believe good Muslims just want to get along,
they don't want to impost their barbaric religion upon others?
Under Islam ??? That is a pathetic strawman, you should know better.
I know many Muslims, and none of them want to stone me because
I am an infidel. I actually get more crap from the xtians who want to
convert me to the seventh day Advenstists, the Scientologists etc....
2) What you describe happened a long time ago and while there are
certainly kooks around in the Christian fringes they hardly compare as
a threat to our way of life in the West as Islam does. Remember a
moderate Muslim believes we should all be living under Islamic law -
as Muslims and any cause and means that brings that closer is
justified.
*****, you are wrong. You don't seem to have any contact with
Muslims. I do, every day. Maybe the Muslims in Australia are far
more radical than than those in Germany, because of the policies
of the right wing Howard government.
3) The argument/excuse that Christians (or enter your religion of
choice here) did this that or the other once so therefore the actions of
Muslims is justified now doesn't wash. We are in the present and any
group be it Muslims, Branch Davidians, Raelians should be judged by
today's morals/values/laws.
You misunderstand me.
I think ALL religions are ***** and NONE OF THEM have any right
to impose their values on the rest of us......, there are hundreds of them
so they CANNOT all be right.
So the only logical conclusion (by a sentient being) is that they are probably
all WRONG !
}
}Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message news:ulbgs1dhua0as4hk3vh5p2ugo0qqa7k7qk@4ax.com...
}
}
}Are the xtians etc. really any fucking better ?
}It wasn't that long ago that xtians were killing people because they
}believed they were witches etc. etc.
}There are many fundies around today who believe every word in the
}bible....every religion has fruitcakes, some have more fruitcakes at
}any one time than the rest.
}
}
}
}>
}> The religion of *****, you have to love it. It's always worth a laugh
}> to see the apologists twist themselves into pretzels trying to justify
}> the actions of these savages - particularly things like the actions of
}> the Muslims in the linking article mindlessly chanting "Death to
}> America and Israel". What's more disturbing is that many apologists
}> are will go so far as to defend the rights of these mindless people to
}> have nuclear weapons. Truly a case of the mindless defending the
}> mindless...
}>
}....snip.....
}
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| User: "Zappy" |
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| Title: Re: Why Islam Can Never Be Appeased |
14 Jan 2006 10:44:08 PM |
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"fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote in message
news:dq9jbo$ruv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
Michael Wallace wrote ...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
Ah, Fritz, can't see the forest for the Christians? A couple of points
to help you out:
How magnanimous of you....
1) The country you're living in is probably predominantly Christian
and has many of its laws and traditions based upon Christian values.
Yet, you are able to hold your own beliefs and live an act as you
please. Do you honestly believe you would have the same rights under
Islam? Or perhaps you believe good Muslims just want to get along,
they don't want to impost their barbaric religion upon others?
Under Islam ??? That is a pathetic strawman, you should know better.
I know many Muslims, and none of them want to stone me because
I am an infidel. I actually get more crap from the xtians who want to
convert me to the seventh day Advenstists, the Scientologists etc....
Scietologists are not Xian.
2) What you describe happened a long time ago and while there are
certainly kooks around in the Christian fringes they hardly compare as
a threat to our way of life in the West as Islam does. Remember a
moderate Muslim believes we should all be living under Islamic law -
as Muslims and any cause and means that brings that closer is
justified.
*****, you are wrong. You don't seem to have any contact with
Muslims. I do, every day. Maybe the Muslims in Australia are far
more radical than than those in Germany, because of the policies
of the right wing Howard government.
3) The argument/excuse that Christians (or enter your religion of
choice here) did this that or the other once so therefore the actions of
Muslims is justified now doesn't wash. We are in the present and any
group be it Muslims, Branch Davidians, Raelians should be judged by
today's morals/values/laws.
You misunderstand me.
I think ALL religions are ***** and NONE OF THEM have any right
to impose their values on the rest of us......, there are hundreds of them
so they CANNOT all be right.
So the only logical conclusion (by a sentient being) is that they are
probably
all WRONG !
}
}Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
news:ulbgs1dhua0as4hk3vh5p2ugo0qqa7k7qk@4ax.com...
}
}
}Are the xtians etc. really any fucking better ?
}It wasn't that long ago that xtians were killing people because they
}believed they were witches etc. etc.
}There are many fundies around today who believe every word in the
}bible....every religion has fruitcakes, some have more fruitcakes at
}any one time than the rest.
}
}
}
}>
}> The religion of *****, you have to love it. It's always worth a laugh
}> to see the apologists twist themselves into pretzels trying to justify
}> the actions of these savages - particularly things like the actions of
}> the Muslims in the linking article mindlessly chanting "Death to
}> America and Israel". What's more disturbing is that many apologists
}> are will go so far as to defend the rights of these mindless people to
}> have nuclear weapons. Truly a case of the mindless defending the
}> mindless...
}>
}....snip.....
}
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13 Jan 2006 07:58:17 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:08:13 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
}
}Michael Wallace wrote ...
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:28:55 +0100, "fritz" <fritz@address.com> wrote:
}>
}> Ah, Fritz, can't see the forest for the Christians? A couple of points
}> to help you out:
}
}How magnanimous of you....
}
}> 1) The country you're living in is probably predominantly Christian
}> and has many of its laws and traditions based upon Christian values.
}> Yet, you are able to hold your own beliefs and live an act as you
}> please. Do you honestly believe you would have the same rights under
}> Islam? Or perhaps you believe good Muslims just want to get along,
}> they don't want to impost their barbaric religion upon others?
}
}Under Islam ??? That is a pathetic strawman, you should know better.
}I know many Muslims, and none of them want to stone me because
}I am an infidel.
Try moving to an Islamic country, or you can just wait until Germany
becomes and at the rate you're going that won't be long.
}I actually get more crap from the xtians who want to
}convert me to the seventh day Advenstists, the Scientologists etc....
}
}
}> 2) What you describe happened a long time ago and while there are
}> certainly kooks around in the Christian fringes they hardly compare as
}> a threat to our way of life in the West as Islam does. Remember a
}> moderate Muslim believes we should all be living under Islamic law -
}> as Muslims and any cause and means that brings that closer is
}> justified.
}
}*****, you are wrong. You don't seem to have any contact with
}Muslims. I do, every day. Maybe the Muslims in Australia are far
}more radical than than those in Germany, because of the policies
}of the right wing Howard government.
}
Hehe, what do you have in Germany mostly Turks, not exactly the most
radical of Muslims certainly - although Turkey itself is undergoing
very serious changes thanks to the Islamists. I guess you haven't been
keeping up with world events as far as Islam is concerned.
BTW, why do you apologists all assume that anyone who says one bad
thing about Islamists hasn't had any contact with them? The problem is
too much contact - I would have thought.
}
}> 3) The argument/excuse that Christians (or enter your religion of
}> choice here) did this that or the other once so therefore the actions of
}> Muslims is justified now doesn't wash. We are in the present and any
}> group be it Muslims, Branch Davidians, Raelians should be judged by
}> today's morals/values/laws.
}
}You misunderstand me.
}I think ALL religions are ***** and NONE OF THEM have any right
}to impose their values on the rest of us......,
The point is that some religions (or religious memes if you will) are
more forceful about imposing themselves than others - Islam being one
of the worst examples.
}there are hundreds of them so they CANNOT all be right.
}
No, but have you ever thought that, maybe, just maybe they may all
have a grain of truth to them? The universe moves in mysterious ways -
and I say that as an atheist.
}So the only logical conclusion (by a sentient being) is that they are probably
}all WRONG !
}
Yes, yes I understand that Fritz, the point is that I wonder how much
effect that argument would have had had you been on one of the planes
that were flown into the WTC. Or how would that argument go on a
Muslim in a Muslim country?
Telling people that all religions are wrong and that their sky fairy
doesn't exist is pretty much moot when they are about to cut your head
off.
}
}
}
}
}>
}> }
}> }Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message news:ulbgs1dhua0as4hk3vh5p2ugo0qqa7k7qk@4ax.com...
}> }
}> }
}> }Are the xtians etc. really any fucking better ?
}> }It wasn't that long ago that xtians were killing people because they
}> }believed they were witches etc. etc.
}> }There are many fundies around today who believe every word in the
}> }bible....every religion has fruitcakes, some have more fruitcakes at
}> }any one time than the rest.
}> }
}> }
}> }
}> }>
}> }> The religion of *****, you have to love it. It's always worth a laugh
}> }> to see the apologists twist themselves into pretzels trying to justify
}> }> the actions of these savages - particularly things like the actions of
}> }> the Muslims in the linking article mindlessly chanting "Death to
}> }> America and Israel". What's more disturbing is that many apologists
}> }> are will go so far as to defend the rights of these mindless people to
}> }> have nuclear weapons. Truly a case of the mindless defending the
}> }> mindless...
}> }>
}> }....snip.....
}> }
}>
}
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18 Jan 2006 04:40:12 PM |
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Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote:
BTW, why do you apologists all assume that anyone who says one bad
thing about Islamists hasn't had any contact with them? The problem is
too much contact - I would have thought.
That's impossible, they wouldn't want you within 50 metres of them - you
would radiate hostility like a burning tyre emits smoke.
Rifty
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http://rifty.net
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20 Jan 2006 11:43:40 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:40:12 +1100, (Rifty) wrote in
alt.atheism
Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote:
BTW, why do you apologists all assume that anyone who says one bad
thing about Islamists hasn't had any contact with them? The problem is
too much contact - I would have thought.
That's impossible, they wouldn't want you within 50 metres of them - you
would radiate hostility like a burning tyre emits smoke.
And he might attack them.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
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20 Jan 2006 05:46:48 PM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
And he might attack them.
Only from behind, or when he had the numbers, or by shouting helpful
things like "If you can't speak English, go back where you came from!"
That would make them become happy Australian citizens, eager to
assimilate, wouldn't it? Their immediate reaction would be "If this is
Australian culture, why would I want to be like him!!!???"
Rifty
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21 Jan 2006 03:06:58 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:46:48 +1100, (Rifty) wrote in
alt.atheism
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
And he might attack them.
Only from behind, or when he had the numbers, or by shouting helpful
things like "If you can't speak English, go back where you came from!"
There is that aspect. :\
That would make them become happy Australian citizens, eager to
assimilate, wouldn't it? Their immediate reaction would be "If this is
Australian culture, why would I want to be like him!!!???"
Indeed.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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13 Jan 2006 08:56:43 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Michael Wallace
<carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> posting the following on Sat, 14 Jan
2006 12:58:17 +1100 iin alt.atheism?
}Under Islam ??? That is a pathetic strawman, you should know better.
}I know many Muslims, and none of them want to stone me because
}I am an infidel.
Try moving to an Islamic country, or you can just wait until Germany
becomes and at the rate you're going that won't be long.
So, which one did you live in?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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13 Jan 2006 10:03:53 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:56:43 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
G'day Douglas,
How are you these days? Haven't seen a post from you in a long time.
Given up on alt.conspiracy, eh? Can't blame you. Same old ***** is still
being slung back and forth. Picked this one up in aus.tv (which is OT
for this post somehow).
Cheers,
Phil
--
The biggest conspiracy has always been the
fact that there is no conspiracy.
Nobody's out to get you.
Nobody gives a ***** whether you live or die.
There, you feel better now?
-- Dennis Miller
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14 Jan 2006 07:42:53 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Phil Miller
<philmil@REMOVEoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Sat, 14 Jan
2006 15:03:53 +1100 iin alt.atheism?
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:56:43 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
G'day Douglas,
How are you these days? Haven't seen a post from you in a long time.
Given up on alt.conspiracy, eh? Can't blame you. Same old ***** is still
being slung back and forth. Picked this one up in aus.tv (which is OT
for this post somehow).
Yeah, a.c. ceased being useful even for stealing plot ideas. Just
endless screaming rants about Jews, masons, and 9/11. Waste of time.
I'm hanging in there. New job, writing again.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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13 Jan 2006 09:47:03 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:56:43 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
}What's so funny about peace, love and Michael Wallace
}<carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> posting the following on Sat, 14 Jan
}2006 12:58:17 +1100 iin alt.atheism?
}
}>}Under Islam ??? That is a pathetic strawman, you should know better.
}>}I know many Muslims, and none of them want to stone me because
}>}I am an infidel.
}>
}>Try moving to an Islamic country, or you can just wait until Germany
}>becomes and at the rate you're going that won't be long.
}
}So, which one did you live in?
Saudi and Dubai. Saudi is great where they have the Friday beheadings
in the square. I'm sure a liberal like you would approve of this
method of "correction".
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14 Jan 2006 12:35:16 AM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:56:43 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
}What's so funny about peace, love and Michael Wallace
}<carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> posting the following on Sat, 14 Jan
}2006 12:58:17 +1100 iin alt.atheism?
}
}>}Under Islam ??? That is a pathetic strawman, you should know better.
}>}I know many Muslims, and none of them want to stone me because
}>}I am an infidel.
}>
}>Try moving to an Islamic country, or you can just wait until Germany
}>becomes and at the rate you're going that won't be long.
}
}So, which one did you live in?
Saudi and Dubai. Saudi is great where they have the Friday beheadings
in the square. I'm sure a liberal like you would approve of this
method of "correction".
Hahaha, so since when do dole bludgers like you rake up enough money to
get overseas?? Hey, I've been to Mars too! It was really cool! 8]
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14 Jan 2006 01:24:37 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:35:16 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}Michael Wallace wrote:
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:56:43 GMT, Douglas Berry
}> <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
}>
}> }What's so funny about peace, love and Michael Wallace
}> }<carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> posting the following on Sat, 14 Jan
}> }2006 12:58:17 +1100 iin alt.atheism?
}> }
}> }>}Under Islam ??? That is a pathetic strawman, you should know better.
}> }>}I know many Muslims, and none of them want to stone me because
}> }>}I am an infidel.
}> }>
}> }>Try moving to an Islamic country, or you can just wait until Germany
}> }>becomes and at the rate you're going that won't be long.
}> }
}> }So, which one did you live in?
}>
}> Saudi and Dubai. Saudi is great where they have the Friday beheadings
}> in the square. I'm sure a liberal like you would approve of this
}> method of "correction".
}
}
}Hahaha, so since when do dole bludgers like you rake up enough money to
}get overseas?? Hey, I've been to Mars too! It was really cool! 8]
I've lived in Europe as well and have been to all the continents. I
imagine that sad little fuckwipes like you can't really relate to that
sort of thing having only scraped up enough to get to Bali - maybe.
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14 Jan 2006 02:08:20 AM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:35:16 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}Hahaha, so since when do dole bludgers like you rake up enough money to
}get overseas?? Hey, I've been to Mars too! It was really cool! 8]
I've lived in Europe as well and have been to all the continents. I
imagine that sad little fuckwipes like you can't really relate to that
sort of thing having only scraped up enough to get to Bali - maybe.
I'm sure you have! 8] That's why Lakemba is your entire knowledge of the
Muslim world! 8]
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14 Jan 2006 05:00:48 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:08:20 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}Michael Wallace wrote:
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:35:16 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
}> wrote:
}>
}> }Hahaha, so since when do dole bludgers like you rake up enough money to
}> }get overseas?? Hey, I've been to Mars too! It was really cool! 8]
}>
}> I've lived in Europe as well and have been to all the continents. I
}> imagine that sad little fuckwipes like you can't really relate to that
}> sort of thing having only scraped up enough to get to Bali - maybe.
}
}
}I'm sure you have! 8] That's why Lakemba is your entire knowledge of the
}Muslim world! 8]
***** you honestly have no clue. I have relatives in Austria, Germany,
Canada, the US - apart from living and traveling to and working in
various parts of the world I've had a couple of Uncles work in Iraq.
The sister of one of my best friends married a Turk, a good but a liar
like most Turks, his brother is/was a drug dealer, his father worked
only long enough to buy a house and then promptly went on the dole.
Fairly stock standard for Turks. As I've said elsewhere I also went to
school and grew up with Turks Greeks - what have you and have
experience Muslims and Islam first hand. You on the other hand happen
to work with a Bosnian, a Turk and an Indonesian which is the limit of
your experience so let's not even say too much more about your
worldliness.
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14 Jan 2006 05:24:27 AM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:08:20 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}I'm sure you have! 8] That's why Lakemba is your entire knowledge of the
}Muslim world! 8]
***** you honestly have no clue. I have relatives in Austria, Germany,
Canada, the US - apart from living and traveling to and working in
various parts of the world I've had a couple of Uncles work in Iraq.
The sister of one of my best friends married a Turk, a good but a liar
like most Turks, his brother is/was a drug dealer, his father worked
only long enough to buy a house and then promptly went on the dole.
Fairly stock standard for Turks. As I've said elsewhere I also went to
school and grew up with Turks Greeks
Uhuh.... 8]
- what have you and have
experience Muslims and Islam first hand. You on the other hand happen
to work with a Bosnian, a Turk and an Indonesian which is the limit of
your experience so let's not even say too much more about your
worldliness.
Don't work with a Turk at all, you're not very bright are you.... As for
my worldliness, I've only visited two other countries, but have worked
and lived with people from all over the world, and the big difference
between you and me is my opinions are not shaped by the KKK handbook, so
even if we were to believe your crap above it really wouldn't mean a
great deal considering your complete lack of anything resembling
intelligence, and your apparent desire to play lapdog to the terrorists
and do exactly what they ask you to do.
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14 Jan 2006 05:35:57 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:24:27 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}Michael Wallace wrote:
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:08:20 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
}> wrote:
}> }I'm sure you have! 8] That's why Lakemba is your entire knowledge of the
}> }Muslim world! 8]
}>
}> ***** you honestly have no clue. I have relatives in Austria, Germany,
}> Canada, the US - apart from living and traveling to and working in
}> various parts of the world I've had a couple of Uncles work in Iraq.
}> The sister of one of my best friends married a Turk, a good but a liar
}> like most Turks, his brother is/was a drug dealer, his father worked
}> only long enough to buy a house and then promptly went on the dole.
}> Fairly stock standard for Turks. As I've said elsewhere I also went to
}> school and grew up with Turks Greeks
}
}
}Uhuh.... 8]
}
}
}> - what have you and have
}> experience Muslims and Islam first hand. You on the other hand happen
}> to work with a Bosnian, a Turk and an Indonesian which is the limit of
}> your experience so let's not even say too much more about your
}> worldliness.
}
}
}Don't work with a Turk at all, you're not very bright are you....
Whatever, I just hope one of them is or becomes your boss so you can
be his *****.
}As for
}my worldliness, I've only visited two other countries,
Well done, but Tasmania doesn't count as another country.
}but have worked
}and lived with people from all over the world, and the big difference
}between you and me is my opinions are not shaped by the KKK handbook, so
}even if we were to believe your crap above it really wouldn't mean a
}great deal considering your complete lack of anything resembling
}intelligence,
Intelligence and money, two things I have more of than you. Oh, and
good looks.
}and your apparent desire to play lapdog to the terrorists
}and do exactly what they ask you to do.
Yes, I agree, standing up to them is a very bad idea, much better to
placate and appease them. That'll show 'em.
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14 Jan 2006 01:02:09 PM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:24:27 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}
}Don't work with a Turk at all, you're not very bright are you....
Whatever, I just hope one of them is or becomes your boss so you can
be his *****.
I supervise them at the moment, but there's no reason that it might not
happen down the track, I'm not planning on going past the "hands-on
becomes hands-off paper-shuffler" point, so I've set myself a ceiling,
but they're all great at their jobs so no reason that one of them might
not down the track choose to enter the world of the paper shuffler
though even if it ain't something I'm interested in, and good luck to
them if they do, the only bitches around will still be you and yours.
}As for
}my worldliness, I've only visited two other countries,
Well done, but Tasmania doesn't count as another country.
The Eastern States??? Pfffft, I'd want to go there about as much as I'd
want to go to other dismal places like India or the Middle-East, as far
as travel goes I think I'll stick to Asia/Europe and the better states
of Australia such as WA and the NT, although QLD is somewhere I might
visit some time (I'll consider that a Northern as opposed to Eastern
state), I hear it's pretty damn nice and not full of parasites like you.
}but have worked
}and lived with people from all over the world, and the big difference
}between you and me is my opinions are not shaped by the KKK handbook, so
}even if we were to believe your crap above it really wouldn't mean a
}great deal considering your complete lack of anything resembling
}intelligence,
Intelligence and money, two things I have more of than you. Oh, and
good looks.
Hahahaha, well usenet has already shown your first claim to be totally
false, so I don't think much of the chances of the rest. 8]
}and your apparent desire to play lapdog to the terrorists
}and do exactly what they ask you to do.
Yes, I agree, standing up to them is a very bad idea,
You don't, you'd be too gutless to do that, instead you target the
innocent members of whatever group they happen to be a member of,
because they're easy targets and that's what the terrorists have asked
you to do, and being the gutless sheep you are, you obey.
much better to
placate and appease them. That'll show 'em.
And that's exactly what you do, you just don't know it.
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15 Jan 2006 01:18:29 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:02:09 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au> wrote
in alt.atheism
Michael Wallace wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:24:27 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}
}Don't work with a Turk at all, you're not very bright are you....
Whatever, I just hope one of them is or becomes your boss so you can
be his *****.
I supervise them at the moment, but there's no reason that it might not
happen down the track, I'm not planning on going past the "hands-on
becomes hands-off paper-shuffler" point, so I've set myself a ceiling,
but they're all great at their jobs so no reason that one of them might
not down the track choose to enter the world of the paper shuffler
though even if it ain't something I'm interested in, and good luck to
them if they do, the only bitches around will still be you and yours.
Whew. Wallace is really from the shallow end of the gene pool. It
drowns in a drop of water.
[]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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14 Jan 2006 07:40:45 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Michael Wallace
<carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> posting the following on Sat, 14 Jan
2006 14:47:03 +1100 iin alt.atheism?
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:56:43 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
}What's so funny about peace, love and Michael Wallace
}<carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> posting the following on Sat, 14 Jan
}2006 12:58:17 +1100 iin alt.atheism?
}
}>}Under Islam ??? That is a pathetic strawman, you should know better.
}>}I know many Muslims, and none of them want to stone me because
}>}I am an infidel.
}>
}>Try moving to an Islamic country, or you can just wait until Germany
}>becomes and at the rate you're going that won't be long.
}
}So, which one did you live in?
Saudi and Dubai. Saudi is great where they have the Friday beheadings
in the square. I'm sure a liberal like you would approve of this
method of "correction".
SA is insane, and we all know this. They are in the grips of
theocracy.
Now I've been to Dubai, and you can buy beer in certain stores, there
were Christian chruches to be found, and a free press.
Why do you assume I'm a liberal? I'm actually a centrist.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| Title: Re: Why Islam Can Never Be Appeased |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:40:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
}What's so funny about peace, love and Michael Wallace
}<carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> posting the following on Sat, 14 Jan
}2006 14:47:03 +1100 iin alt.atheism?
}>On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:56:43 GMT, Douglas Berry
}><penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
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}>}What's so funny about peace, love and Michael Wallace
}>}<carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> posting the following on Sat, 14 Jan
}>}2006 12:58:17 +1100 iin alt.atheism?
}>}
}>}>}Under Islam ??? That is a pathetic strawman, you should know better.
}>}>}I know many Muslims, and none of them want to stone me because
}>}>}I am an infidel.
}>}>
}>}>Try moving to an Islamic country, or you can just wait until Germany
}>}>becomes and at the rate you're going that won't be long.
}>}
}>}So, which one did you live in?
}>
}>Saudi and Dubai. Saudi is great where they have the Friday beheadings
}>in the square. I'm sure a liberal like you would approve of this
}>method of "correction".
}
}SA is insane, and we all know this. They are in the grips of
}theocracy.
}
Right, as are all Islamic countries.
}Now I've been to Dubai, and you can buy beer in certain stores, there
}were Christian chruches to be found, and a free press.
}
Still not the ideal place to settle down.
}Why do you assume I'm a liberal? I'm actually a centrist.
I thought I was once too, I now wonder if that is even possible. Must
make even choosing a favourite colour difficult.
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