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"Noel" |
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25 Feb 2005 05:26:42 PM |
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Why should God have to explain himself to you bums |
If a person doesnt believe that God made us all as part of his
creation, that is a personal choice. Why should God have to explain
himself to that person if he is not intelligent enough to recognise
the wonders of this world. Does God owe him something?
On the other hand, if God really does exist and made himself/herself
known to an atheist, it is most likely that he would be rebuffed
anyway. It would be an impossible argument.
Look what they did to JC and he was a man who raised the dead.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Why should God have to explain himself to you bums |
27 Feb 2005 07:14:00 PM |
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"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in
message news:1109550976.230874.91110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote in
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thomas p wrote:
On 27 Feb 2005 05:29:14 -0800, "The great
philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still
be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
I agree with you there, Noel. There is a bible verse that does
back
up
that assertion.
An assertion does not back up an assertion.
Read Luke 16:19-31
Why? The bible doesn't prove anything.
But, that verse says the same thing I have said earlier in this thread.
Couldn't care less.
That atheists will still not believe the evidence of God's existence
evein if it was shown to them.
Your mere opinion.
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Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Why should God have to explain himself to you bums |
27 Feb 2005 08:31:49 PM |
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The great philosopher-criminologist wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote in
message
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thomas p wrote:
On 27 Feb 2005 05:29:14 -0800, "The great
philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still
be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
I agree with you there, Noel. There is a bible verse that does
back
up
that assertion.
An assertion does not back up an assertion.
Read Luke 16:19-31
Why? The bible doesn't prove anything.
But, that verse says the same thing I have said earlier in this
thread.
That atheists will still not believe the evidence of God's existence
evein if it was shown to them.
What is this, if not attacking the messenger instead of his
message? You don't address any specific objections to this
so called evidence that you haven't even produced yet. The
fact is that most believers are just like atheists when it
comes to every single alleged god--except one.
You reject those other gods just like we do. But when it
comes to the Bible god, you have different standards. It is
you who become credulous, not atheists who become
incredulous. We're just applying the same standard that
you apply to every other god. Want me to prove it?
Do you think Caesar Agustus was a god? Why not? Suetonius
(whom many claim as an extra-Biblical source for the existence
of Jesus) wrote that the entire Roman Senate testified to witnessing
Augustus rise into heaven upon his death. Although you
are credulous about the Jesus account I suspect you are
skeptical about the Caesar Augustus account even though the
reputable members of the Roman senate, to a man, swore to
being eye witnesses to his ascension.
x
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: Why should God have to explain himself to you bums |
28 Feb 2005 10:43:12 AM |
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The great philosopher-criminologist wrote:
Read Luke 16:19-31
Why? The bible doesn't prove anything.
But, that verse says the same thing I have said earlier in this
thread.
That atheists will still not believe the evidence of God's existence
evein if it was shown to them.
And if you clap REAL HARD fairies are real and Tinker Bell will live!
jwk
BAAWA
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| User: "thomas p" |
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28 Feb 2005 03:46:48 PM |
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On 27 Feb 2005 15:08:20 -0800, "The great philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On 27 Feb 2005 05:29:14 -0800, "The great philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would still
be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
I agree with you there, Noel. There is a bible verse that does back
up
that assertion.
An assertion does not back up an assertion.
Read Luke 16:19-31
You are playing a game, right? You are not serious.
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| User: "The great philosopher-criminologist" |
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01 Mar 2005 08:34:28 AM |
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thomas p wrote:
On 27 Feb 2005 15:08:20 -0800, "The great philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On 27 Feb 2005 05:29:14 -0800, "The great
philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still
be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
I agree with you there, Noel. There is a bible verse that does
back
up
that assertion.
An assertion does not back up an assertion.
Read Luke 16:19-31
You are playing a game, right? You are not serious.
My philosophy teacher is.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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02 Mar 2005 06:20:05 AM |
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The great philosopher-criminologist wrote:
thomas p wrote:
You are playing a game, right? You are not serious.
My philosophy teacher is.
For which you will not name the school, the teacher, or even a class number.
You claim to have "degrees" and offer nothing to support it. You claim
to be a teacher, and offer nothing to support that either.
You are a liar.
And obviously, you are also a fraud. There are laws against fraud you know.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "" |
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03 Mar 2005 04:56:41 AM |
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try not to get diverted Rev.
the laws of man are not the same as the laws of God.
Anyway what makes a man Reverened?
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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03 Mar 2005 07:56:20 AM |
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try not to get diverted Rev.
the laws of man are not the same as the laws of God.
Anyway what makes a man Reverened?
It appears you are responding to me. However, since you apparently are
having an issue with your NNTP client, and I don't see what you are
responding to, I will simply respond to what you have posted.
Prove there is a god, any god, I don't care which god.
The we will discuss if it is your god or not. And if it has any laws.
And to answer you second question:
Nothing. Why?
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Noel" |
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07 Mar 2005 05:16:41 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message news:<AIEVd.5 > Prove there is a god, any god, I don't care which god.
the only way God will prove his existance to people like you is to
cast you into the abyss when the time comes and even when that is
happening you would say that you are dreaming, this is not really
happening.
you sound like you would love to believe in God but you cant because
he didnt do enough to convince you.
The we will discuss if it is your god or not. And if it has any laws.
It will be too late to discuss his existance when you feel his
presence.
you only get one chance my friend. God doesnt need egg heads. It
appears the evolutionary process hasnt brought you up to speed.
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| User: "Liz" |
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07 Mar 2005 05:49:00 PM |
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On 7 Mar 2005 15:16:41 -0800, (Noel) in news message
<c24b49f4.0503071516.4084c261@posting.google.com> wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message news:<AIEVd.5 > Prove there is a god, any god, I don't care which god.
the only way God will prove his existance to people like you is to
cast you into the abyss when the time comes and even when that is
happening you would say that you are dreaming, this is not really
happening.
you sound like you would love to believe in God but you cant because
he didnt do enough to convince you.
You are arguing both sides of the issue.
First, you say that we would never be convinced if . . . whatever
happens. However, whatever never happens.
Second, you say that we would love to believe if we could be
convinced. Of course, you have already stated that we can't be
convinced.
So what is your position? Would we reject all evidence (ntie,oc)
because we don't want to be convinced or do we want to be convinced?
The usual atheist position is that we certainly could be convinced if
there were evidence. However, there isn't any so we remain
unconvinced.
The we will discuss if it is your god or not. And if it has any laws.
It will be too late to discuss his existance when you feel his
presence.
Well, that hasn't happened. That is the real problem here. It is not
that we reject a god we feel. It is that there is no presence to
feel.
you only get one chance my friend.
The Boogey Man will get you if you don't watch out! Eek! Shriek!
Your veiled threats do not frighten us. We don't believe your claims
that a god exists. Are you frightened of Thor or Huitzilopochtli?
I'm not. Neither am I afraid of your silly supposed supernatural
being.
God doesnt need egg heads.
Are you saying that your GodŽ prefers the ignorant? You may be on to
something here.
It
appears the evolutionary process hasnt brought you up to speed.
As it has all of us. We have all evolved to our present state.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Faith is a method designed to keep a person willfully ignorant of the odds
by arbitrarily assigning certainty where certainty is not justified. - Denis Loubet
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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07 Mar 2005 07:16:56 PM |
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On 7 Mar 2005 15:16:41 -0800, (Noel) wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message news:
<AIEVd.5 > Prove there is a god, any god, I don't care which god.
the only way God will prove his existance to people like you is to
cast you into the abyss when the time comes
Is that the best God can do?
How do you know so much about this God?
and even when that is
happening you would say that you are dreaming, this is not really
happening.
God must be pretty weak to be so unconvincing.
you sound like you would love to believe in God but you cant because
he didnt do enough to convince you.
The we will discuss if it is your god or not. And if it has any laws.
It will be too late to discuss his existance when you feel his
presence.
you only get one chance my friend. God doesnt need egg heads.
God is afraid of intelligent people.
It appears the evolutionary process hasnt brought you up to speed.
God has let us all down.
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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08 Mar 2005 02:07:15 PM |
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On 7 Mar 2005 15:16:41 -0800, (Noel) wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message news:<AIEVd.5
Prove there is a god, any god, I don't care which god.
the only way God will prove his existance to people like you is to
cast you into the abyss when the time comes and even when that is
happening you would say that you are dreaming, this is not really
happening.
but it is not for a god to prove its existence to us, the onus is on
you to demonstrate that the god you claim to exist does. How do you
know it exists, where is your evidence for all the claims you make?
All we need is some evidence that you have not invented the whole
thing. All we need is someway to distinquish fantasy from reality.
That is surely not an unreasonable request is it?
It will be too late to discuss his existance when you feel his
presence.
you only get one chance my friend. God doesnt need egg heads. It
appears the evolutionary process hasnt brought you up to speed.
Again claims about the existence of heaven and hell but again no
basis for such a claim except some unknown writting at an
unknown time for a purpose unnown. It totally escapes me how
you could possibly accept such ancient writings without question.
It is not so much belief but beggared belief.
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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07 Mar 2005 07:34:22 PM |
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On 7 Mar 2005 15:16:41 -0800, (Noel) wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message news:<AIEVd.5 > Prove there is a god, any god, I don't care which god.
the only way God will prove his existance to people like you is to
Question begging stupidity.
cast you into the abyss when the time comes and even when that is
The empty threat of part of your mythology for not believing the rest
of it.
happening you would say that you are dreaming, this is not really
happening.
you sound like you would love to believe in God but you cant because
he didnt do enough to convince you.
You sound like a somebody who resorts to personal lies because he
can't address points.
The we will discuss if it is your god or not. And if it has any laws.
It will be too late to discuss his existance when you feel his
presence.
Idiot.
you only get one chance my friend. God doesnt need egg heads. It
appears the evolutionary process hasnt brought you up to speed.
Figments of your deluded imagiunation don't need anything.
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08 Mar 2005 12:34:05 AM |
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On 7 Mar 2005 15:16:41 -0800, (Noel) wrote:
God doesnt need egg heads.
Oh, and I guess he needs congenital retards.
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Our greatest Americans were not Christian! Our flag has never flown a
crucifix!
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." -Benjamin
Franklin
"We discover in the gospels a groundwork of vulgar ignorance, of
things impossible, of superstition, fanaticism and fabrication."
-Thomas Jefferson
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no
religion in it." -John Adams
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for
every noble enterprise." -James Madison
"That Jesus Christ was not God is evidence from his own words." -Ethan
Allen
"Whence arose all the horrid assassinations of whole nations of men,
women, and infants, with which the Bible is filled; and the bloody
persecutions, and tortures unto death and religious wars, that since
that time have laid Europe in blood and ashes; whence arose they, but
from this impious thing called revealed religion, and this monstrous
belief that God has spoken to man?..." Thomas Paine
"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on
the Christian religion" -Passed unanimously, US Senate, 1797
"Religion is bunk" -Thomas Alva Edison
EVIGILARE PECUA!
http://unrealitycheck.com
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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08 Mar 2005 11:06:13 AM |
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 00:34:05 -0600, Heretic wrote
(in article <oqhq219cm62fep64ve9e91j3ffec8o4cvs@4ax.com>):
On 7 Mar 2005 15:16:41 -0800, (Noel) wrote:
God doesnt need egg heads.
Oh, and I guess he needs congenital retards.
And these morons wonder why we wouldn't want anything to do with this monster
if it did exist. An eternity with thousands of congenital retards, sounds
like pure hell to me.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"God hates figs."
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| User: "John Baker" |
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08 Mar 2005 06:45:34 PM |
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:06:13 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 00:34:05 -0600, Heretic wrote
(in article <oqhq219cm62fep64ve9e91j3ffec8o4cvs@4ax.com>):
On 7 Mar 2005 15:16:41 -0800, (Noel) wrote:
God doesnt need egg heads.
Oh, and I guess he needs congenital retards.
And these morons wonder why we wouldn't want anything to do with this monster
if it did exist. An eternity with thousands of congenital retards, sounds
like pure hell to me.
Indeed. Never-ending punishment or eternity surrounded by smiling,
vacant-eyed robots mindlessly singing the praises of their
megalomaniacal deity. Not much of a choice.
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| User: "Del" |
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02 Mar 2005 06:04:37 AM |
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The great philosopher-criminologist wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On 27 Feb 2005 15:08:20 -0800, "The great
philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On 27 Feb 2005 05:29:14 -0800, "The great
philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
[...]
An assertion does not back up an assertion.
Read Luke 16:19-31
You are playing a game, right? You are not serious.
My philosophy teacher is.
A guy named "Eddie," right?
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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28 Feb 2005 07:46:35 AM |
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On 27 Feb 2005 15:08:20 -0800, "The great philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
I agree with you there, Noel. There is a bible verse that does back
up
that assertion.
An assertion does not back up an assertion.
Read Luke 16:19-31
Read Harry Potter.
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| User: "wcb" |
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28 Feb 2005 02:10:40 AM |
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The great philosopher-criminologist wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would still be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
I agree with you there, Noel. There is a bible verse that does back up
that assertion.
OK, show us a miracle.
The bible says you get miracles.
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Mark 11:23-4
For verily I say this unto you, That
whosoever shall say unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that
those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever
he saith.
Therefore I say unto you, What things
soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe
ye recieve them and ye shall have them.
Matthew 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, that if two
of you shall agree on earth as
touching anything that they shall
ask, it shall be done for them of
my father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered
in my name, there I am in the midst
of them.
Matthew 21:22
And all things,whatsoever ye shall ask
in prayer, believeing, ye shall recieve.
John 14:12-14
12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall
he do;because I go unto my Father.
13: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be
glorified in the Son.
14: If ye shall ask any thing in my name,
I will do it.
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Cheerful Charlie
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27 Feb 2005 01:12:59 PM |
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Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would still be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
Look at the people who deny the holocaust as one example of opposing
truth.
Yeah, they are kinda like people who deny evolution.
Are they just plain stupid or are they as I would suggest
deviant?
Ah. You start with an ad hominem attack and now
you move to a bifurcation fallacy.
ie liars and more than that, they are persons with an
ulterior motive.
My goodness. Are you supposed to be a Christian?
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness,
faithfullness, gentleness, self control...
-- Galatians 5:22-23
Give none offence, neither to the Jews,
nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of
God: Even as I please all men in all things,
not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of
many, that they may be saved.
-- 1 Corinthians 10:32-33
Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.
Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not
high things, but condescend to men of low estate.
Be not wise in your own conceits. Recompense to no
man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the
sight of all men. -- Romans 12:14,16,17
to malign no one, to be uncontentious, gentle,
showing every consideration for all men -- Titus 3:1-2
Try looking in the mirror for evidence of a God and if you convince
that brain of yours that you are just a freak accident that happened
in time and space then that is what you are, no better than a bullock
in the field, another accident to you. You will never find God if you
deny him.
I dont feel sorry for you and certainly why should God have to
explain himself to a dummy like you?
But now you also, put them all aside: anger,
wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from
your mouth. -- Colossians 3:8
If there was a god, why would he allow someone full
of hate like you to speak for him?
He would probably regard you as a
failure, a complete write off.
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men
should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is
the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:12
And there is the dividing line between
minds. You would prefer to believe that believers in God are fools
who
dream too much. I wonder if a bullock can dream.
If you don't mind I'll wait for a Christian to respond
to my query.
c
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| User: "The great philosopher-criminologist" |
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27 Feb 2005 01:26:48 PM |
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wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would still be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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27 Feb 2005 01:28:42 PM |
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"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in
message news:1109532408.734881.181550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
jfa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would still be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
So what?
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Resident Witchypoo
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28 Feb 2005 12:30:55 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:28:42 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in
message news:1109532408.734881.181550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
jfa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would still be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
So what?
Robin, you are dealing with a child. Give it up.
Clothaire #1392
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| User: "The great philosopher-criminologist" |
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28 Feb 2005 07:01:19 AM |
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Clothaire wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:28:42 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote in
message
news:1109532408.734881.181550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
jfa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
So what?
Robin, you are dealing with a child. Give it up.
Oh, and I get my thinking from blogs.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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28 Feb 2005 05:35:48 PM |
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"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in
message news:1109594697.676661.38020@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Clothaire wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:28:42 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote in
message
news:1109532408.734881.181550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
jfa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
So what?
Robin, you are dealing with a child. Give it up.
Oh, and I get my thinking from blogs.
That explains a lot.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "The great philosopher-criminologist" |
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28 Feb 2005 06:42:53 AM |
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Clothaire wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:28:42 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote in
message
news:1109532408.734881.181550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
jfa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
So what?
Robin, you are dealing with a child. Give it up.
Well, then explain my philosophy and criminology degrees.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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28 Feb 2005 07:27:29 AM |
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"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote
in news:1109594573.194298.202820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Clothaire wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:28:42 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote in
message
news:1109532408.734881.181550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
jfa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still be sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
So what?
Robin, you are dealing with a child. Give it up.
Well, then explain my philosophy and criminology degrees.
We have some serious doubts about those too.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: Why should God have to explain himself to you bums |
28 Feb 2005 10:48:15 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote
in news:1109594573.194298.202820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Clothaire wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:28:42 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote in
message
news:1109532408.734881.181550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
jfa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still be sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but
rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
So what?
Robin, you are dealing with a child. Give it up.
Well, then explain my philosophy and criminology degrees.
We have some serious doubts about those too.
I have some doubts that this guy is actually a theist. Anybody else
get that? Or is it just me?
jwk
I always have trouble telling between a "true believer" and an
over-the-top fake kook. Probably because you can't really be
over-the-top with theist kookery. Their nuttyness knows no bounds.
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01 Mar 2005 03:01:07 AM |
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jwk wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote
in news:1109594573.194298.202820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Clothaire wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:28:42 -0500, "R obibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist"
<bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote in
message
news:1109532408.734881.181550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
jfa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still be sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but
rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
So what?
Robin, you are dealing with a child. Give it up.
Well, then explain my philosophy and criminology degrees.
We have some serious doubts about those too.
I have some doubts that this guy is actually a theist.
You're saying he might be an atheist? What a depressing thought.
Anybody else
get that? Or is it just me?
I'm sure he is a theist but I'm also sure he is a troll.
I don't mean "troll" they way the term is now usually
applied: someone who is an annoying idiot. I
mean something more than that. Take for instance
the fact that he doesn't want his post archived. Why
wouldn't he? Not wanting his posts archived and
knowing how to do it suggests someone with an
agenda more sophisticated than your typical fundies.
I notice that as"angry pankration warrior" he claimed
to be a journalist. Does he still claim to be?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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28 Feb 2005 05:35:29 PM |
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"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca> wrote in
message news:1109594573.194298.202820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Clothaire wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:28:42 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000@yahoo.ca>
wrote in
message
news:1109532408.734881.181550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
jfa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Noel wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net wrote in message >
You imply that this is evidence. Instead of implying
it, why don't you explicitly state why you think it is
evidence he existed.
Even if you witnessed some of the miracles of JC you would
still be
sceptical as many of his followers were.
Oh I see. This isn't really about a lack of evidence,
it is really about me. I get it.
Hard evidence to people like you is never accepted but rather
questioned and resented.
The old "Why should bother producing evidence, you
wouldn't belive me anyway" dodge. Not very original.
But, it is used all the time in hollywood movies.
So what?
Robin, you are dealing with a child. Give it up.
Well, then explain my philosophy and criminology degrees.
Prove that you have them.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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