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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Noel"
Date: 25 Feb 2005 05:26:42 PM
Object: Why should God have to explain himself to you bums
If a person doesnt believe that God made us all as part of his
creation, that is a personal choice. Why should God have to explain
himself to that person if he is not intelligent enough to recognise
the wonders of this world. Does God owe him something?
On the other hand, if God really does exist and made himself/herself
known to an atheist, it is most likely that he would be rebuffed
anyway. It would be an impossible argument.
Look what they did to JC and he was a man who raised the dead.
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Why should God have to explain himself to you bums 25 Feb 2005 07:45:41 PM
On 25 Feb 2005 15:26:42 -0800,
(Noel) said in
alt.atheism:

If a person doesnt believe that God made us all as part of his
creation, that is a personal choice. Why should God have to explain
himself to that person

He shouldn't. We're not talking about him, we're talking about his
representatives. If *YOU* want to talk about him, *YOU'RE* going to
have to post objective evidence that he objectively exists.
Understand the difference between YOU and YOUR GOD?

Look what they did to JC

Characters in novels don't have things "done to" them. Unless you
have objective evidence? Or you're claiming to *be* him?
--
rukbat at verizon dot net
"Creationists are the best evidence we have that there is no intelligent design."
-Josef Balluch
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: Why should God have to explain himself to you bums 26 Feb 2005 03:22:01 AM
On 25 Feb 2005 15:26:42 -0800,
(Noel) wrote:

If a person doesnt believe that God made us all as part of his
creation, that is a personal choice. Why should God have to explain
himself to that person if he is not intelligent enough to recognise
the wonders of this world.

God doesn't need to do anything. You are, however, making a claim.
Stop blaming god for your failure to back it up.

Does God owe him something?
On the other hand, if God really does exist and made himself/herself
known to an atheist, it is most likely that he would be rebuffed
anyway. It would be an impossible argument.

How do you know what would happen?

Look what they did to JC and he was a man who raised the dead.

According to the story the people who killed him were not atheists.
.

User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: Why should God have to explain himself to you bums 28 Feb 2005 07:04:52 AM
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:26:42 -0800, Noel wrote:

If a person doesnt believe that God made us all as part of his creation,
that is a personal choice. Why should God have to explain himself to that
person if he is not intelligent enough to recognise the wonders of this
world. Does God owe him something? On the other hand, if God really does
exist and made himself/herself known to an atheist, it is most likely that
he would be rebuffed anyway. It would be an impossible argument. Look what
they did to JC and he was a man who raised the dead.

I could no more make myself believe in God than I could make myself
believe in the Easter Bunny. If God exists, AND He wants me to believe in
Him, then surely He knows what I would find convincing. The fact that I
don't believe in God is evidence that: He doesn't exist; He does
exist but doesn't want me to believe in Him; He exists but doesn't care if
I believe in Him or not.
If He has something to say to the world, He is going to have to do better
than giving cryptic and conflicting messages to a bunch of Bronze Age goat
herders, who didn't even have written language when the events of the OT
were supposed to have taken place. If Jesus was His second attempt to set
the world straight, He could have done better than an obscure prophet who
only talked to a handful of people, none of whom thought to write anything
down for almost 100 years.
God shows every sign of being either incompetent, non-existent, or a
playful prankster who has fun making religious zealots dance and sing.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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