Religions > Atheism > Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote
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"TheMan" |
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03 Feb 2004 12:36:22 AM |
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Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote |
The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied territories
sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be examined.
You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the civilians who
live on it. The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can continue on with
it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these people a vote. No wonder
there is a uprising by the Israeli Arab population against a government
voted in by a extremist minority(the Zionazi jews)
It sort of reminds me of Iraq, and Saddam running the show with the support
of the minority Sunni's, while at the same time slaughtering the majority
Shiites. These civilians of Israel want a vote, and want a voice, but they
are being oppressed by a government voted in by a minority.
We should support this civilian uprising, something the Shiites tried to do
but failed. Hopefully these Palestinians will be successful.
(Information sourced from www.encyclopedia.com)
The Gaza Strip (2003 est. pop. 1,200,000) is a rectangular coastal area
(c.140 sq mi/370 sq km) on the Mediterranean Sea adjoining Egypt and Israel,
in what was formerly SW Palestine.
Westbank, formerly part of Palestine , after 1949 administered by Jordan,
since 1967 occupied by Israel (1995 est. pop. 1,320,000)
officially State of Israel, republic (1995 est. pop. 5,607,900),
Israel proper is made up of about 82% Jews, about 16% Arabs, and 2% Druze
and others.
Total Arab vote 60%.
-TheMan-
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| User: "cindys" |
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| Title: Re: Why the bigots think that non-Israelis can vote? |
12 Feb 2004 09:45:28 PM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I would love to have a Nathan's Famous! With sauerkraut and
mustard!
An all-beef kosher hotdog is also halal. It says in Al Q'ran:
"That
food which is permitted to the People of the Book is permitted
also
to you."
Nice to know Iskandar can eat at my house!
Of course, Muslims eat prawns as well.
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Except Nathan's are not kosher. Go for the glatt! The best kosher
hotdogs
IMHO are Aaron's Rubashkin.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Nathan's not kosher???!!!
Aaarghhh!
I was stunned to hear this myself, because I always wanted to have a
Nathan's for the history of it.
Luckily, the DH found a lovely deli w/an old train car in it to make up
for
it.
I'll have to remember the name....
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Apparently, there is a Nathan's in Brooklyn which is glatt kosher. To the
best of my knowledge, that is the only one.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
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| User: "Bernardz" |
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| Title: Re: Why the bigots think that non-Israelis can vote? |
10 Feb 2004 04:31:38 AM |
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In article <4S%Vb.4911$%X3.177@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
flaviaR@verizon.net says...
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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I would love to have a Nathan's Famous! With sauerkraut and
mustard!
An all-beef kosher hotdog is also halal. It says in Al Q'ran:
"That
food which is permitted to the People of the Book is permitted
also
to you."
Nice to know Iskandar can eat at my house!
He will not be able to drink at your house. I have a feeling it will not
be a problem.
Note not all Muslims are allowed to eat kosher food.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Why the bigots think that non-Israelis can vote? |
10 Feb 2004 09:51:35 AM |
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"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <4S%Vb.4911$%X3.177@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
flaviaR@verizon.net says...
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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An all-beef kosher hotdog is also halal. It says in Al Q'ran:
"That
food which is permitted to the People of the Book is permitted
also
to you."
Nice to know Iskandar can eat at my house!
He will not be able to drink at your house. I have a feeling it will not
be a problem.
Muslims can't drink non-Muslim liquids???
Or are you referring to alcohol?
We don't drink at all.
Note not all Muslims are allowed to eat kosher food.
Oh, I'm sure :-)
Susan
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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10 Feb 2004 10:12:31 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <4S%Vb.4911$%X3.177@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
flaviaR@verizon.net says...
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:402811b6@news.highway1.com.au...
An all-beef kosher hotdog is also halal. It says in Al
Q'ran:
"That
food which is permitted to the People of the Book is
permitted
also
to you."
Nice to know Iskandar can eat at my house!
He will not be able to drink at your house. I have a feeling it
will not
be a problem.
You're right. It isn't. ;-)
Izzy
Muslims can't drink non-Muslim liquids???
Or are you referring to alcohol?
We don't drink at all.
Note not all Muslims are allowed to eat kosher food.
Oh, I'm sure :-)
Susan
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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10 Feb 2004 04:48:26 AM |
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"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <4S%Vb.4911$%X3.177@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
flaviaR@verizon.net says...
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in
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snip
I would love to have a Nathan's Famous! With sauerkraut
and
mustard!
An all-beef kosher hotdog is also halal. It says in Al
Q'ran:
"That
food which is permitted to the People of the Book is
permitted
also
to you."
Nice to know Iskandar can eat at my house!
He will not be able to drink at your house. I have a feeling it
will not
be a problem.
Note not all Muslims are allowed to eat kosher food.
What Muslims are not allowed to eat kosher food? The definition of
kosher is more strict than that of halal. Anything which is kosher
is definitely halal, but not vice-versa. Shellfish, for example.
I could never be a Jew - I like my prawns and lobster too much.
Izzy
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| User: "Binyamin Dissen" |
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10 Feb 2004 05:09:08 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:48:26 +0800 "Iskandar Baharuddin"
<brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote:
:>What Muslims are not allowed to eat kosher food? The definition of
:>kosher is more strict than that of halal. Anything which is kosher
:>is definitely halal, but not vice-versa. Shellfish, for example.
While typically your observant Moslem pays as much attention to Hallal as your
typical reformed or conservative pays to Kashrut, Hallal requires a devote
Moslem to slaughter the animal. Jews do not qualify.
--
Binyamin Dissen <bdissen@dissensoftware.com>
http://www.dissensoftware.com
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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10 Feb 2004 05:21:51 AM |
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"Binyamin Dissen" <postingid@dissensoftware.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:48:26 +0800 "Iskandar Baharuddin"
<brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote:
:>What Muslims are not allowed to eat kosher food? The definition
of
:>kosher is more strict than that of halal. Anything which is
kosher
:>is definitely halal, but not vice-versa. Shellfish, for example.
While typically your observant Moslem pays as much attention to
Hallal as your
typical reformed or conservative pays to Kashrut, Hallal requires
a devote
Moslem to slaughter the animal. Jews do not qualify.
Al-Q'ran takes precedence over this rule.
"The food of the People of the Book is permitted also unto you."
Pretty clear.
I can eat a kosher roast beef, chicken fat and onion sandwich with a
perfectly clear conscience. In fact, I wish I could get one in
Perth. No luck so far. Can anyone help?
Izzy
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| User: "Bernardz" |
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11 Feb 2004 04:58:57 AM |
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In article <4028bec7$1@news.highway1.com.au>,
says...
"Binyamin Dissen" <postingid@dissensoftware.com> wrote in message
news:9peh209rfi102oofe0hrgd4ukti06m7lcj@4ax.com...
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:48:26 +0800 "Iskandar Baharuddin"
< > wrote:
:>What Muslims are not allowed to eat kosher food? The definition
of
:>kosher is more strict than that of halal. Anything which is
kosher
:>is definitely halal, but not vice-versa. Shellfish, for example.
While typically your observant Moslem pays as much attention to
Hallal as your
typical reformed or conservative pays to Kashrut, Hallal requires
a devote
Moslem to slaughter the animal. Jews do not qualify.
Al-Q'ran takes precedence over this rule.
"The food of the People of the Book is permitted also unto you."
Pretty clear.
Sort of. Kosher food can have alcohol. That is not permitted.
Generally when Jews and Muslims eat together its fish and coffee.
I can eat a kosher roast beef, chicken fat and onion sandwich with a
perfectly clear conscience. In fact, I wish I could get one in
Perth. No luck so far. Can anyone help?
In Perth, no.
Izzy
--
A department of the government runs itself. In that it is run for its
employees benefit first.
Observations of Bernard - No 43
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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11 Feb 2004 05:28:35 AM |
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"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <4028bec7$1@news.highway1.com.au>,
brengsek@mcpc.net.au
says...
"Binyamin Dissen" <postingid@dissensoftware.com> wrote
in message
news:9peh209rfi102oofe0hrgd4ukti06m7lcj@4ax.com...
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:48:26 +0800 "Iskandar
Baharuddin"
<brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote:
:>What Muslims are not allowed to eat kosher food? The
definition
of
:>kosher is more strict than that of halal. Anything
which is
kosher
:>is definitely halal, but not vice-versa. Shellfish,
for example.
While typically your observant Moslem pays as much
attention to
Hallal as your
typical reformed or conservative pays to Kashrut,
Hallal requires
a devote
Moslem to slaughter the animal. Jews do not qualify.
Al-Q'ran takes precedence over this rule.
"The food of the People of the Book is permitted also
unto you."
Pretty clear.
Sort of. Kosher food can have alcohol. That is not
permitted.
Well, I'll stick with the literal interpretation of the
words in Al-Q'ran. ;-)
Generally when Jews and Muslims eat together its fish and
coffee.
But no prawns, alas.
I can eat a kosher roast beef, chicken fat and onion
sandwich with a
perfectly clear conscience. In fact, I wish I could get
one in
Perth. No luck so far. Can anyone help?
In Perth, no.
I feared as much.
Sala'am & Shalom
Izzy
"Insanity: Repeating the same action over and over in
expectation of a different outcome."
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| User: "Bernardz" |
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11 Feb 2004 08:44:36 AM |
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In article <402a11dc$1@news.highway1.com.au>,
says...
"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:becf67487b4311da451b9037b7313bea@news.teranews.com...
In article <4028bec7$1@news.highway1.com.au>,
says...
"Binyamin Dissen" <postingid@dissensoftware.com> wrote
in message
news:9peh209rfi102oofe0hrgd4ukti06m7lcj@4ax.com...
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:48:26 +0800 "Iskandar
Baharuddin"
< > wrote:
:>What Muslims are not allowed to eat kosher food? The
definition
of
:>kosher is more strict than that of halal. Anything
which is
kosher
:>is definitely halal, but not vice-versa. Shellfish,
for example.
While typically your observant Moslem pays as much
attention to
Hallal as your
typical reformed or conservative pays to Kashrut,
Hallal requires
a devote
Moslem to slaughter the animal. Jews do not qualify.
Al-Q'ran takes precedence over this rule.
"The food of the People of the Book is permitted also
unto you."
Pretty clear.
Sort of. Kosher food can have alcohol. That is not
permitted.
Well, I'll stick with the literal interpretation of the
words in Al-Q'ran. ;-)
Please go on. I presume this is the verse from the Qu ran that you are
referring too is the Dinner Table
[5.5] This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of
those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is
lawful for them;
Let me ask you for some scenarios. These are not untypical kosher foods.
) A cake made with wine or spirits.
) A chocolate with much of the liquid rum center inside drained off.
) A chocolate with liquid rum center inside.
) Cherries soaked in wine.
) Kosher wine.
Generally when Jews and Muslims eat together its fish and
coffee.
But no prawns, alas.
Not a problem, you eat the Jewish guys prawns as well as your own.
I can eat a kosher roast beef, chicken fat and onion
sandwich with a
perfectly clear conscience. In fact, I wish I could get
one in
Perth. No luck so far. Can anyone help?
In Perth, no.
I feared as much.
Sala'am & Shalom
Izzy
"Insanity: Repeating the same action over and over in
expectation of a different outcome."
--
A department of the government runs itself. In that it is run for its
employees benefit first.
Observations of Bernard - No 43
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Why the bigots think that non-Israelis can vote? |
11 Feb 2004 09:24:12 PM |
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"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <402a11dc$1@news.highway1.com.au>,
says...
Well, I'll stick with the literal interpretation of the
words in Al-Q'ran. ;-)
Please go on. I presume this is the verse from the Qu ran that you are
referring too is the Dinner Table
[5.5] This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of
those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is
lawful for them;
Let me ask you for some scenarios. These are not untypical kosher foods.
) A cake made with wine or spirits.
) A chocolate with much of the liquid rum center inside drained off.
) A chocolate with liquid rum center inside.
) Cherries soaked in wine.
And you don't get any of this at my house :-)
) Kosher wine.
Okay, got me here :-)
Generally when Jews and Muslims eat together its fish and
coffee.
But no prawns, alas.
Not a problem, you eat the Jewish guys prawns as well as your own.
Oh, he won't get those here, either....
Susan
I can eat a kosher roast beef, chicken fat and onion
sandwich with a
perfectly clear conscience. In fact, I wish I could get
one in
Perth. No luck so far. Can anyone help?
In Perth, no.
I feared as much.
Sala'am & Shalom
Izzy
"Insanity: Repeating the same action over and over in
expectation of a different outcome."
--
A department of the government runs itself. In that it is run for its
employees benefit first.
Observations of Bernard - No 43
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| User: "Bernardz" |
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| Title: Re: Why the bigots think that non-Israelis can vote? |
12 Feb 2004 07:50:26 AM |
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In article <wlCWb.3642$1S1.3005@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
flaviaR@verizon.net says...
"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f2428031b25cd65321b48d658a7b5070@news.teranews.com...
In article <402a11dc$1@news.highway1.com.au>,
says...
Well, I'll stick with the literal interpretation of the
words in Al-Q'ran. ;-)
Please go on. I presume this is the verse from the Qu ran that you are
referring too is the Dinner Table
[5.5] This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of
those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is
lawful for them;
Let me ask you for some scenarios. These are not untypical kosher foods.
) A cake made with wine or spirits.
) A chocolate with much of the liquid rum center inside drained off.
) A chocolate with liquid rum center inside.
) Cherries soaked in wine.
And you don't get any of this at my house :-)
Try it chocolates with liquid alcohol center inside.
Very nice.
) Kosher wine.
Okay, got me here :-)
Try putting a little in a cake.
Generally when Jews and Muslims eat together its fish and
coffee.
But no prawns, alas.
Not a problem, you eat the Jewish guys prawns as well as your own.
Oh, he won't get those here, either....
Maybe he will eat rollmops.
Susan
I can eat a kosher roast beef, chicken fat and onion
sandwich with a
perfectly clear conscience. In fact, I wish I could get
one in
Perth. No luck so far. Can anyone help?
In Perth, no.
I feared as much.
Sala'am & Shalom
Izzy
"Insanity: Repeating the same action over and over in
expectation of a different outcome."
--
A department of the government runs itself. In that it is run for its
employees benefit first.
Observations of Bernard - No 43
--
A department of the government runs itself. In that it is run for its
employees benefit first.
Observations of Bernard - No 43
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Why the bigots think that non-Israelis can vote? |
12 Feb 2004 09:17:51 AM |
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"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <wlCWb.3642$1S1.3005@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
flaviaR@verizon.net says...
"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f2428031b25cd65321b48d658a7b5070@news.teranews.com...
In article <402a11dc$1@news.highway1.com.au>,
says...
Well, I'll stick with the literal interpretation of the
words in Al-Q'ran. ;-)
Please go on. I presume this is the verse from the Qu ran that you are
referring too is the Dinner Table
[5.5] This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food
of
those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is
lawful for them;
Let me ask you for some scenarios. These are not untypical kosher
foods.
) A cake made with wine or spirits.
) A chocolate with much of the liquid rum center inside drained off.
) A chocolate with liquid rum center inside.
) Cherries soaked in wine.
And you don't get any of this at my house :-)
Try it chocolates with liquid alcohol center inside.
Even when I was allowed to have chocolate, I hated those things.
Very nice.
) Kosher wine.
Okay, got me here :-)
Try putting a little in a cake.
Yech.
Generally when Jews and Muslims eat together its fish and
coffee.
But no prawns, alas.
Not a problem, you eat the Jewish guys prawns as well as your own.
Oh, he won't get those here, either....
Maybe he will eat rollmops.
What are those??
Susan
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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| Title: Re: Why the bigots think that non-Israelis can vote? |
12 Feb 2004 08:33:26 AM |
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"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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| In article <wlCWb.3642$1S1.3005@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
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| >
| > "Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in
message
| >
news:f2428031b25cd65321b48d658a7b5070@news.teranews.com...
| > > In article <402a11dc$1@news.highway1.com.au>,
brengsek@mcpc.net.au
| > > says...
| > >
| > > > Well, I'll stick with the literal interpretation of
the
| > > > words in Al-Q'ran. ;-)
| > >
| > > Please go on. I presume this is the verse from the Qu
ran that you are
| > > referring too is the Dinner Table
| > >
| > > [5.5] This day (all) the good things are allowed to
you; and the food of
| > > those who have been given the Book is lawful for you
and your food is
| > > lawful for them;
| > >
| > > Let me ask you for some scenarios. These are not
untypical kosher foods.
| > > ) A cake made with wine or spirits.
| > > ) A chocolate with much of the liquid rum center
inside drained off.
| > > ) A chocolate with liquid rum center inside.
| > > ) Cherries soaked in wine.
| >
| > And you don't get any of this at my house :-)
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| Try it chocolates with liquid alcohol center inside.
|
| Very nice.
|
| >
| > > ) Kosher wine.
| >
| > Okay, got me here :-)
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| Try putting a little in a cake.
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| > >
| > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > Generally when Jews and Muslims eat together its
fish and
| > > > coffee.
| > > > >
| > > > But no prawns, alas.
| > >
| > > Not a problem, you eat the Jewish guys prawns as well
as your own.
| >
| > Oh, he won't get those here, either....
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| Maybe he will eat rollmops.
Lov'em. Try chopping up rollmops and granny smith apples,
then mix them together. Delicious.
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| >
| > Susan
| > >
| > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > > I can eat a kosher roast beef, chicken fat and
onion
| > > > sandwich with a
| > > > > > perfectly clear conscience. In fact, I wish I
could get
| > > > one in
| > > > > > Perth. No luck so far. Can anyone help?
| > > > >
| > > > > In Perth, no.
| > > > >
| > > > I feared as much.
I suppose I could render chicken fat. The rest is available
at Herdie's.
Izzy
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In article <402b8eb0@news.highway1.com.au>, says...
"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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| In article <wlCWb.3642$1S1.3005@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
| says...
| >
| > "Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in
message
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| > > In article <402a11dc$1@news.highway1.com.au>,
| > > says...
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| > > > Well, I'll stick with the literal interpretation of
the
| > > > words in Al-Q'ran. ;-)
| > >
| > > Please go on. I presume this is the verse from the Qu
ran that you are
| > > referring too is the Dinner Table
| > >
| > > [5.5] This day (all) the good things are allowed to
you; and the food of
| > > those who have been given the Book is lawful for you
and your food is
| > > lawful for them;
| > >
| > > Let me ask you for some scenarios. These are not
untypical kosher foods.
| > > ) A cake made with wine or spirits.
| > > ) A chocolate with much of the liquid rum center
inside drained off.
| > > ) A chocolate with liquid rum center inside.
| > > ) Cherries soaked in wine.
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| > And you don't get any of this at my house :-)
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| Try it chocolates with liquid alcohol center inside.
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| Very nice.
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| > > ) Kosher wine.
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| > Okay, got me here :-)
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| Try putting a little in a cake.
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| > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > Generally when Jews and Muslims eat together its
fish and
| > > > coffee.
| > > > >
| > > > But no prawns, alas.
| > >
| > > Not a problem, you eat the Jewish guys prawns as well
as your own.
| >
| > Oh, he won't get those here, either....
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| Maybe he will eat rollmops.
Lov'em. Try chopping up rollmops and granny smith apples,
then mix them together. Delicious.
Done that.
Try mixing the mix with egg too. Very nice.
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| >
| > Susan
| > >
| > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > > I can eat a kosher roast beef, chicken fat and
onion
| > > > sandwich with a
| > > > > > perfectly clear conscience. In fact, I wish I
could get
| > > > one in
| > > > > > Perth. No luck so far. Can anyone help?
| > > > >
| > > > > In Perth, no.
| > > > >
| > > > I feared as much.
I suppose I could render chicken fat. The rest is available
at Herdie's.
Izzy
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If anyone had bothered to look at how government owned and administrated
public transportation is actually run, they would never have allowed a
government agency to run a space program.
Observations of Bernard - No 44
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14 Feb 2004 06:21:07 AM |
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"Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2c5b89c2ac58fbd7804413bd4a298264@news.teranews.com...
| In article <402b8eb0@news.highway1.com.au>,
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| > "Bernardz" <Bernard_zzz@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in
message
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| > | Maybe he will eat rollmops.
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| > Lov'em. Try chopping up rollmops and granny smith
apples,
| > then mix them together. Delicious.
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| Done that.
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| Try mixing the mix with egg too. Very nice.
Just the yolk, I assume. Must try it.
Izzy
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| If anyone had bothered to look at how government owned and
administrated
| public transportation is actually run, they would never
have allowed a
| government agency to run a space program.
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| Observations of Bernard - No 44
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Now, I really like that!
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10 Feb 2004 03:22:40 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:54:31 GMT "cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
:>"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
:>news:402363c3$1@news.highway1.com.au...
:>> "TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
:>> news:SSGUb.44239$Wa.20851@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:>> > "Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
:>> > news:40216126$1@news.highway1.com.au...
:>> I would love to have a Nathan's Famous! With sauerkraut and mustard!
:>> An all-beef kosher hotdog is also halal. It says in Al Q'ran: "That
:>> food which is permitted to the People of the Book is permitted also
:>> to you." Of course, Muslims eat prawns as well.
:>Except Nathan's are not kosher. Go for the glatt!
There briefly was a Kosher Nathan's in Jerusalem.
Unfortunately they started using lower quality meat and strangely enough they
lost the tourist business (their prices were quite high by Israeli standards).
:> The best kosher hotdogs
:>IMHO are Aaron's Rubashkin.
Try Romanian from Chicago. Or made by a butcher without extra preservatives.
--
Binyamin Dissen <bdissen@dissensoftware.com>
http://www.dissensoftware.com
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03 Feb 2004 07:26:32 PM |
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amigocabal wrote:
What you scum have to recognize that ALL people in Palestine have a
right to vote irrespective of their national or religious afiliation,
if you want to claim democracy!
They aren't Israeli citizens, they are governed by the PA. If the terrorism
stopped, there would be an envionment in which to hold elections. It is
their choice to continue the Intifada.
Tilly
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08 Feb 2004 04:40:53 AM |
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amigocabal wrote:
What you scum have to recognize that ALL people in Palestine have a
right to vote irrespective of their national or religious afiliation,
if you want to claim democracy!
They aren't Israeli citizens, they are governed by the PA. If the terrorism
stopped, there would be an envionment in which to hold elections. It is
their choice to continue the Intifada.
Tilly
Tilly -- I say this with great love and affection. Shut the ***** up.
yr pal in zionism, steve. xcxxx
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steve2000 wrote:
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<EgYTb.33337$9k7.711091@news.xtra.co.nz>...
amigocabal wrote:
What you scum have to recognize that ALL people in Palestine have a
right to vote irrespective of their national or religious
afiliation,
if you want to claim democracy!
They aren't Israeli citizens, they are governed by the PA. If the
terrorism
stopped, there would be an envionment in which to hold elections. It
is
their choice to continue the Intifada.
Tilly
Tilly -- I say this with great love and affection. Shut the ***** up.
yr pal in zionism, steve. xcxxx
Why?
I realise TheMan is a complete moron and a waste of time,but it was wotrth
giving it a try.
Tilly
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08 Feb 2004 08:48:36 PM |
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steve2000 wrote:
[snip crap]
Why?
I realise TheMan is a complete moron and a waste of time,but it was wotrth
giving it a try.
Always make sure to whom you are speaking....
Susan
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03 Feb 2004 02:57:29 AM |
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TheMan wrote:
The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied
territories sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be
examined.
You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the civilians
who live on it.
Rubbish, their are 1.2 million Israeli Arabs who live in Israel who they
have no intention of expelling as long as they don't engage in terrorist
activity or provide intelligence to the W Bank and Gaza.
The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can
continue on with it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these
people a vote. No wonder there is a uprising by the Israeli Arab
population against a government voted in by a extremist minority(the
Zionazi jews)
An uprising? When? Voicing their opposition to some Israeli policy,sure. but
they live in a functioning democracy and have the right to say so, unlike
their felllow Arabs anywhere else.They have members of parliament and full
voting rights..They know they are better off economically than the average
Arab in an Arab country.They are entitled to a good education and work with
Israelis and usually get along with them.
..
It sort of reminds me of Iraq, and Saddam running the show with the
support of the minority Sunni's, while at the same time slaughtering
the majority Shiites. These civilians of Israel want a vote, and want
a voice, but they are being oppressed by a government voted in by a
minority.
What civilians are you referring to? The Israeli Arabs have a vote, the
Palestinians in the W Bank and Gaza are not Israeli citizens, so they don't
have the right to vote in Israel. If they were prepared to consider peace
,they would have a state run by themselves in which they could vote .
We should support this civilian uprising, something the Shiites tried
to do but failed. Hopefully these Palestinians will be successful.
You are very misinformed as to the situation.It has only very recently been
suggested by anyone in the territories that they should perhaps look to
pressuring Israel to let them become citizens and for obvious reasons. They
breed like rabbits and know that they would soon outnumber the Jews and take
control through the ballot box. Israel isn't stupid enough to fall for it,
given they will try to force their religion on all Israelis , impose Sharia
and their philosophy Israel might as well shoot themselves than do that.
You know of course that the Jordanians (the majority iof them come from
Jordan and Egypt) don't want them and the W Bank and Gaza back. King Hussein
and Abdullah are quite blint about it having experienced their presence in
the 1970's. They were glad to see the last of them and most Arab countries
concurs.They know the trouble it would cause within their kingdom.
Tilly
Bright1_3@hotmail.com
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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03 Feb 2004 07:24:34 AM |
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4oJTb.32574$9k7.684545@news.xtra.co.nz...
TheMan wrote:
The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied
territories sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be
examined.
You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the civilians
who live on it.
Rubbish, their are 1.2 million Israeli Arabs who live in Israel who they
have no intention of expelling as long as they don't engage in terrorist
activity or provide intelligence to the W Bank and Gaza.
Do Russians have that choice wheather to expel Arabs or not? I think not!
All people should have a right to vote irrespective of their nationality,
twatty, not just your Arab slaves!
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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03 Feb 2004 07:37:35 AM |
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:miNTb.7493$jH6.6574@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4oJTb.32574$9k7.684545@news.xtra.co.nz...
TheMan wrote:
The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied
territories sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be
examined.
You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the
civilians
who live on it.
Rubbish, their are 1.2 million Israeli Arabs who live in Israel
who they
have no intention of expelling as long as they don't engage in
terrorist
activity or provide intelligence to the W Bank and Gaza.
Do Russians have that choice wheather to expel Arabs or not? I
think not!
All people should have a right to vote irrespective of their
nationality,
twatty, not just your Arab slaves!
I was under the impression that Palestinians living in Palestinian
territories are entitled to vote in Palestinian elections.
If I am wrong, please let me know.
Izzy
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03 Feb 2004 08:30:58 AM |
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:401fa419$1@news.highway1.com.au...
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:miNTb.7493$jH6.6574@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4oJTb.32574$9k7.684545@news.xtra.co.nz...
TheMan wrote:
The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied
territories sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be
examined.
You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the
civilians
who live on it.
Rubbish, their are 1.2 million Israeli Arabs who live in Israel
who they
have no intention of expelling as long as they don't engage in
terrorist
activity or provide intelligence to the W Bank and Gaza.
Do Russians have that choice wheather to expel Arabs or not? I
think not!
All people should have a right to vote irrespective of their
nationality,
twatty, not just your Arab slaves!
I was under the impression that Palestinians living in Palestinian
territories are entitled to vote in Palestinian elections.
If I am wrong, please let me know.
Izzy
YOU ARE WRONG! PALESTINIANS IN THE OCCUPIED PALESTINE ARE UNDER DAILY
THREAT OF DEATH FROM THE NAZI ISRAELI THUGS, NO DEMOCRACY CAN EXIST UNDER
THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES
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| User: "Iskandar Baharuddin" |
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03 Feb 2004 08:40:15 AM |
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:CgOTb.7580$jH6.4716@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:401fa419$1@news.highway1.com.au...
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4oJTb.32574$9k7.684545@news.xtra.co.nz...
TheMan wrote:
The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip
occupied
territories sometimes, and Israels land other times has to
be
examined.
You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the
civilians
who live on it.
Rubbish, their are 1.2 million Israeli Arabs who live in
Israel
who they
have no intention of expelling as long as they don't engage
in
terrorist
activity or provide intelligence to the W Bank and Gaza.
Do Russians have that choice wheather to expel Arabs or not? I
think not!
All people should have a right to vote irrespective of their
nationality,
twatty, not just your Arab slaves!
I was under the impression that Palestinians living in
Palestinian
territories are entitled to vote in Palestinian elections.
If I am wrong, please let me know.
Izzy
YOU ARE WRONG! PALESTINIANS IN THE OCCUPIED PALESTINE ARE UNDER
DAILY
THREAT OF DEATH FROM THE NAZI ISRAELI THUGS, NO DEMOCRACY CAN
EXIST UNDER
THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES
The question was, are they entitled to vote?
Izzy
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| User: "TheMan" |
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| Title: Re: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote |
03 Feb 2004 12:03:23 PM |
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:401fb2c9@news.highway1.com.au...
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:CgOTb.7580$jH6.4716@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:401fa419$1@news.highway1.com.au...
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4oJTb.32574$9k7.684545@news.xtra.co.nz...
TheMan wrote:
The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip
occupied
territories sometimes, and Israels land other times has to
be
examined.
You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the
civilians
who live on it.
Rubbish, their are 1.2 million Israeli Arabs who live in
Israel
who they
have no intention of expelling as long as they don't engage
in
terrorist
activity or provide intelligence to the W Bank and Gaza.
Do Russians have that choice wheather to expel Arabs or not? I
think not!
All people should have a right to vote irrespective of their
nationality,
twatty, not just your Arab slaves!
I was under the impression that Palestinians living in
Palestinian
territories are entitled to vote in Palestinian elections.
If I am wrong, please let me know.
Izzy
YOU ARE WRONG! PALESTINIANS IN THE OCCUPIED PALESTINE ARE UNDER
DAILY
THREAT OF DEATH FROM THE NAZI ISRAELI THUGS, NO DEMOCRACY CAN
EXIST UNDER
THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES
The question was, are they entitled to vote?
What a fucking stupid question.
It's like asking if your allowed to vote for you local council elections
only, but not your federal elections. It's not Palestinian tanks rolling
through their streets every day, nor Palestinian soilders and who makes the
laws and rules for Palestine? Not the Palestinian government, it's all
controlled by military force from Israel. Voting for a government which has
no power is a pointless excercise, though I'm sure this was the Jewish
Zionazi plan from the start to make idiots like you think they actually get
a say.
I think you've been brainwashed when you were studying with those Zionazi
jews in NY. You can't be this stupid.
-TheMan-
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03 Feb 2004 07:12:44 PM |
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"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:LnRTb.41175$Wa.36126@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:401fb2c9@news.highway1.com.au...
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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snip
The question was, are they entitled to vote?
What a fucking stupid question.
It's like asking if your allowed to vote for you local council
elections
only, but not your federal elections. It's not Palestinian tanks
rolling
through their streets every day, nor Palestinian soilders and who
makes the
laws and rules for Palestine? Not the Palestinian government, it's
all
controlled by military force from Israel. Voting for a government
which has
no power is a pointless excercise, though I'm sure this was the
Jewish
Zionazi plan from the start to make idiots like you think they
actually get
a say.
I think you've been brainwashed when you were studying with those
Zionazi
jews in NY. You can't be this stupid.
-TheMan-
Why are the Israelis in the occupied territories?
Izzy
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03 Feb 2004 11:08:50 PM |
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:4020470c@news.highway1.com.au...
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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snip
The question was, are they entitled to vote?
What a fucking stupid question.
It's like asking if your allowed to vote for you local council
elections
only, but not your federal elections. It's not Palestinian tanks
rolling
through their streets every day, nor Palestinian soilders and who
makes the
laws and rules for Palestine? Not the Palestinian government, it's
all
controlled by military force from Israel. Voting for a government
which has
no power is a pointless excercise, though I'm sure this was the
Jewish
Zionazi plan from the start to make idiots like you think they
actually get
a say.
I think you've been brainwashed when you were studying with those
Zionazi
jews in NY. You can't be this stupid.
-TheMan-
Why are the Israelis in the occupied territories?
Because according to Zionazism they believe it's Jewish land and refuse to
give it up to the 2.5Million people they won't let vote
-TheMan-
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03 Feb 2004 11:51:02 PM |
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"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:C7%Tb.41654$Wa.1668@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:4020470c@news.highway1.com.au...
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:LnRTb.41175$Wa.36126@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:401fb2c9@news.highway1.com.au...
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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snip
The question was, are they entitled to vote?
What a fucking stupid question.
It's like asking if your allowed to vote for you local council
elections
only, but not your federal elections. It's not Palestinian
tanks
rolling
through their streets every day, nor Palestinian soilders and
who
makes the
laws and rules for Palestine? Not the Palestinian government,
it's
all
controlled by military force from Israel. Voting for a
government
which has
no power is a pointless excercise, though I'm sure this was
the
Jewish
Zionazi plan from the start to make idiots like you think they
actually get
a say.
I think you've been brainwashed when you were studying with
those
Zionazi
jews in NY. You can't be this stupid.
-TheMan-
Why are the Israelis in the occupied territories?
Because according to Zionazism they believe it's Jewish land and
refuse to
give it up to the 2.5Million people they won't let vote
No. It is because of the 1967 war triggered by the Egyptian blockade
of Eilat, and the war preparations of Syria and Jordan. See the
timeline already posted.
The reason the Israelis are in and out ("occupied" is not the
correct term) is because of ongoing terrorism.
There are fundy loonies in Israel who believe in "Eretz Israel".
They are a small minority, and do not control the government.
Most Israelis would be delighted to pull out if the suicide bombing
would stop. However, the closer the Middle East gets to peace the
more violent the terrorists become.
Izzy
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