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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "TheMan"
Date: 03 Feb 2004 12:36:22 AM
Object: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote
The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied territories
sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be examined.
You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the civilians who
live on it. The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can continue on with
it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these people a vote. No wonder
there is a uprising by the Israeli Arab population against a government
voted in by a extremist minority(the Zionazi jews)
It sort of reminds me of Iraq, and Saddam running the show with the support
of the minority Sunni's, while at the same time slaughtering the majority
Shiites. These civilians of Israel want a vote, and want a voice, but they
are being oppressed by a government voted in by a minority.
We should support this civilian uprising, something the Shiites tried to do
but failed. Hopefully these Palestinians will be successful.
(Information sourced from www.encyclopedia.com)
The Gaza Strip (2003 est. pop. 1,200,000) is a rectangular coastal area
(c.140 sq mi/370 sq km) on the Mediterranean Sea adjoining Egypt and Israel,
in what was formerly SW Palestine.
Westbank, formerly part of Palestine , after 1949 administered by Jordan,
since 1967 occupied by Israel (1995 est. pop. 1,320,000)
officially State of Israel, republic (1995 est. pop. 5,607,900),
Israel proper is made up of about 82% Jews, about 16% Arabs, and 2% Druze
and others.
Total Arab vote 60%.
-TheMan-
.

User: "TheMan"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 04 Feb 2004 06:53:32 AM
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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"Tom Jenkins" <jenkinsNO_SPAM369@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:36:22 GMT, DJ Nozem <djn@upcsucks.nl>

wrote:


You have to understand that the 'one state' solution looks nice

to

open-minded westerners. Secularise Israel, add the occupied
territories, make it into a tolerant multicultural society and

let

everyone live happily ever after.


It would be like sending Jews back to Nazi Germany. The Islamist
antisemitism of Arab leaders like Osama bin Laden is no less
destructive and evil than that of the Third Reich.


In some cases "apartheid" appears the only way to stop people from
killing each other.

What about a white christian Australia Izzy, what do you think about that.
We will take away your vote and say your a non-citizen, will you be okay
with that.
-TheMan-
.
User: "Iskandar Baharuddin"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 04 Feb 2004 07:14:35 AM
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:4020e0ce@news.highway1.com.au...


"Tom Jenkins" <jenkinsNO_SPAM369@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:36:22 GMT, DJ Nozem <djn@upcsucks.nl>

wrote:


You have to understand that the 'one state' solution looks

nice

to

open-minded westerners. Secularise Israel, add the occupied
territories, make it into a tolerant multicultural society

and

let

everyone live happily ever after.


It would be like sending Jews back to Nazi Germany. The

Islamist

antisemitism of Arab leaders like Osama bin Laden is no less
destructive and evil than that of the Third Reich.


In some cases "apartheid" appears the only way to stop people

from

killing each other.


What about a white christian Australia Izzy, what do you think

about that.

We will take away your vote and say your a non-citizen, will you

be okay

with that.

Not concerned. I am sure I will find a place in the 16%. I have no
intention of running at the behest of the Arab League.
Izzy
.
User: "Tilly"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 04 Feb 2004 07:42:18 AM
Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:

What about a white christian Australia Izzy, what do you think about
that. We will take away your vote and say your a non-citizen, will
you be okay with that.

Not concerned. I am sure I will find a place in the 16%. I have no
intention of running at the behest of the Arab League.

Izzy

LOL.....
Excellent answer.
Tilly
--
Bright1_3@hotmail.com
.


User: "Tilly"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 04 Feb 2004 07:41:18 AM
TheMan wrote:
.. We will take away your vote
How can something be taken away that they never had?
and say your a non-citizen, will

you be okay with that.

They never had a vote in Israel since they were *never* Israeli citizens.
Tilly
Bright1_3@hotmail.com
.
User: "TheMan"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 04 Feb 2004 12:13:46 PM
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TheMan wrote:
. We will take away your vote

How can something be taken away that they never had?

and say your a non-citizen, will

you be okay with that.



They never had a vote in Israel since they were *never* Israeli citizens.

So what country are they citizens of.
They lived in "Israel", they come from "Israel", they were born in "Israel".
Your trying to play some type of game where you can say a group of people
you know won't vote the way you like are in fact non-citizens.
-TheMan-
.



User: "maff"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 04 Feb 2004 08:26:21 AM
Tom Jenkins <jenkinsNO_SPAM369@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2fn120lkobgpmc4ofdurv8aq9nj9u73do5@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:36:22 GMT, DJ Nozem <djn@upcsucks.nl> wrote:

You have to understand that the 'one state' solution looks nice to
open-minded westerners. Secularise Israel, add the occupied
territories, make it into a tolerant multicultural society and let
everyone live happily ever after.


It would be like sending Jews back to Nazi Germany. The Islamist
antisemitism of Arab leaders like Osama bin Laden is no less
destructive and evil than that of the Third Reich.

The trouble is that Likudnik fascists are no different.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3d4d8607_1%40news.iprimus.com.au
.

User: "Tilly"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 05:36:35 AM
Susan Cohen wrote:

"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4oJTb.32574$9k7.684545@news.xtra.co.nz...

TheMan wrote:

The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied
territories sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be
examined.


Yes, one is a religious reference, the other is a political reference.


You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the civilians
who live on it.


Only Jew-haters want to see Israel embrace those who wish to kill all
the Jews they can.


Rubbish, their are 1.2 million Israeli Arabs who live in Israel who
they have no intention of expelling as long as they don't engage in
terrorist activity or provide intelligence to the W Bank and Gaza.

That's because they are *citizens*, not people who refuse to
recognize that Israel even exists.


The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can

continue on with it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these
people a vote.


As if they would take citizenship if granted.

Actually some of the Palestinains are starting to suggest it, for no other
reason but as a means of achieving an ultimate goal. If there are more of
them in 'Israel', they can gain control at the ballot box and inpose an
Islamic state and Shatriah. If the Jews don't like it they can leave or
become dhimmis.
I think they are too stupid to see the israelis have them figured! LOL
This bigot would be the first to scream if Israel said, "Fine, you're

all citizens.
Where are your taxes & here's where youreport to the IDF."

Of course. They will want welfare and use the ultra -Orthodox as an example
of why they should get it without paying taxes.
Tilly.
Bright1_3@hotmail.com
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 03:38:47 PM
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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They will want welfare and use the ultra -Orthodox as an example
of why they should get it without paying taxes.

The minute they contribute to Israel, &, in fact, Klal Yisroel, in the way
the "Ultra Orthodox" are doing, I, myself, will support them.
Susan
.

User: "Fly"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 10:14:10 AM
(fly)
there is no way I can see the natural in habitants of the land, Arabs
allowing jews, a made up people, who seem more genetically greek, or
cypriot to start owning and expanding there occuping population in
(afrosaic ) Arab territory , whether the naturals of the land are
allowed to vote or not.
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 03:41:07 PM
"Fly" <sendetwo2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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(fly)
there is no way I can see the natural in habitants of the land, Arabs
allowing jews, a made up people, who seem more genetically greek, or
cypriot to start owning and expanding there occuping population in
(afrosaic ) Arab territory , whether the naturals of the land are
allowed to vote or not.

Yes, I'm sure you can't figure out a *lot* of things.
.


User: "amigocabal"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 07:32:20 AM

Actually some of the Palestinains are starting to suggest it, for no

other

reason but as a means of achieving an ultimate goal. If there are more of
them in 'Israel', they can gain control at the ballot box and inpose an
Islamic state and Shatriah. If the Jews don't like it they can leave or
become dhimmis.
I think they are too stupid to see the israelis have them figured! LOL

There you go! That is the reason they hate you! The whole Israel is welfare
state paid for by the US taxpayer. If US did not give you aid you would fold
up inside a month!
And it is not Shatria, moron. And no Palestinian, wants "Shatria"!
.
User: "Tilly"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 07:49:02 PM
amigocabal wrote:


And it is not Shatria, moron. And no Palestinian, wants "Shatria"!

Liar, the Paestinians have incorporated a form of Shariah in their
constitution .
You really are an ignoramus.
Tilly.
--
Bright1_3@hotmail.com
.
User: "Tom Jenkins"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 04 Feb 2004 06:09:15 AM
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:49:02 +1300, "Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com>
wrote:

amigocabal wrote:


And it is not Shatria, moron. And no Palestinian, wants "Shatria"!

***** is illiterate. 'Shatria blues' go man go <LOL>



Liar, the Paestinians have incorporated a form of Shariah in their
constitution .
You really are an ignoramus.

He is goose-stepping to his dead leader's drum <g>
The PA have reintroduced the death penalty originally outlawed
by Israel. See here:
http://www.phrmg.org/phrmg%20documents/Capital%20punishment/Testimonies/English/death_penality_in_palestine.htm
This is a Palestinian Arab human rights website.
.



User: "amigocabal"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 07:56:00 AM

Of course. They will want welfare and use the ultra -Orthodox as an

example

of why they should get it without paying taxes.

The whole Israel has been on welfare for more than 50 years. Every single
Israeli will receive $2,000 "gift" from the US taxpayer, this year alone! To
say nothing about the military aid. Talk about rippoff!
.

User: "Tom Jenkins"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 06:05:38 AM
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:36:35 +1300, "Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Actually some of the Palestinains are starting to suggest it, for no other
reason but as a means of achieving an ultimate goal. If there are more of
them in 'Israel', they can gain control at the ballot box and inpose an
Islamic state and Shatriah. If the Jews don't like it they can leave or
become dhimmis.
I think they are too stupid to see the israelis have them figured! LOL

I think there should be a population exchange. If the "west bank" is
to be made Judenrein then Arabs living in Israel should be required
to relocate to "Palestine". They could take over the homes vacated
by the Jews who relocate to Israel. It has happened before e.g.
Pakistan/India.
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 03:39:47 PM
"Tom Jenkins" <jenkinsNO_SPAM369@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:36:35 +1300, "Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Actually some of the Palestinains are starting to suggest it, for no

other

reason but as a means of achieving an ultimate goal. If there are more of
them in 'Israel', they can gain control at the ballot box and inpose an
Islamic state and Shatriah. If the Jews don't like it they can leave or
become dhimmis.
I think they are too stupid to see the israelis have them figured! LOL


I think there should be a population exchange. If the "west bank" is
to be made Judenrein then Arabs living in Israel should be required
to relocate to "Palestine". They could take over the homes vacated
by the Jews who relocate to Israel. It has happened before e.g.
Pakistan/India.

Except Israel doesn't want to lose any honest, decent citizen.
But thanks for pointing up the integrity of Israel against the bigotry of
the PLO, et al.
Susan
.

User: "amigocabal"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 07:34:51 AM
"Tom Jenkins" <jenkinsNO_SPAM369@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:36:35 +1300, "Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Actually some of the Palestinains are starting to suggest it, for no

other

reason but as a means of achieving an ultimate goal. If there are more of
them in 'Israel', they can gain control at the ballot box and inpose an
Islamic state and Shatriah. If the Jews don't like it they can leave or
become dhimmis.
I think they are too stupid to see the israelis have them figured! LOL


I think there should be a population exchange. If the "west bank" is
to be made Judenrein then Arabs living in Israel should be required
to relocate to "Palestine". They could take over the homes vacated
by the Jews who relocate to Israel. It has happened before e.g.
Pakistan/India.

Hell of a good Idea, I wonder why we don't do that in United States then we
could have hundreds of little enclaves, and hundreds of little borders and
hundreds of walls, and nothing to stop the Cherokees from taking us over!
.

User: "Tilly"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 06:37:49 AM
Tom Jenkins wrote:


I think there should be a population exchange. If the "west bank" is
to be made Judenrein then Arabs living in Israel should be required
to relocate to "Palestine". They could take over the homes vacated
by the Jews who relocate to Israel. It has happened before e.g.
Pakistan/India.

A riddiculous suggestion. Swap 7500 Jewish settlers displace 1.2 million
Israeli Arabs?
What a ridiculous idea!
Tilly
--
Bright1_3@hotmail.com
.
User: "amigocabal"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 07:39:29 AM
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BCMTb.32759$9k7.688677@news.xtra.co.nz...

Tom Jenkins wrote:


I think there should be a population exchange. If the "west bank" is
to be made Judenrein then Arabs living in Israel should be required
to relocate to "Palestine". They could take over the homes vacated
by the Jews who relocate to Israel. It has happened before e.g.
Pakistan/India.



A riddiculous suggestion. Swap 7500 Jewish settlers displace 1.2 million
Israeli Arabs?
What a ridiculous idea!

Tilly

Telling me! It would be much better to send the borsch eaters to Russia!
.


User: "Tilly"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 06:36:10 AM
Tom Jenkins wrote:

I think there should be a population exchange.

Why? Because the Orthodox think it is their G_d given right?
If the "west bank" is

to be made Judenrein then Arabs living in Israel should be required
to relocate to "Palestine".

Why. Most of the 1.2 million Israeli Arabs don't want to.They are
Westernised ,generally well educated and most are decent citizens. A lot
volounteer for the IDF when they don't have to serve.
They could take over the homes vacated

by the Jews who relocate to Israel. It has happened before e.g.
Pakistan/India.

So? Some of then already lived there before they became part of Israel.
Why alienate them by doing ? .By all means ship out those who are
collaborators or terrorists , but most aren't and have no desire to be.The
Pakistanis wanted to be part of a Muslim State (Pakistan) and they weren't
forced to leave. Hence there are still at least 40 million Muslims in India.
Tilly
Bright1_3@hotmail.com
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 03:40:35 PM
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Tom Jenkins wrote:

I think there should be a population exchange.


Why? Because the Orthodox think it is their G_d given right?

No, because the PLO et al make inordinate demands & should be shown just how
obnoxious they are.
Susan
.

User: "amigocabal"

Title: Re: Why the bigots want the Israelis to let non-citizens vote 03 Feb 2004 07:38:17 AM

So? Some of then already lived there before they became part of Israel.
Why alienate them by doing ?

It did not bother Nazis a bit!
..By all means ship out those who are

collaborators or terrorists ,

You must be talking about the IDF murderers!
but most aren't and have no desire to be.The

Pakistanis wanted to be part of a Muslim State (Pakistan) and they weren't
forced to leave.

You got that arse about. There are at least 2 million Pakistani Christians
who chose to live in Pakistan
Hence there are still at least 40 million Muslims in India.
100 million, twatty!

Tilly

Bright1_3@hotmail.com


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User: "not_over_the_hill"

Title: Re: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote 07 Feb 2004 10:47:13 PM
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:57:29 +1300, "Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com>
wrote:

TheMan wrote:

The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied
territories sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be
examined.

You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the civilians
who live on it.


Rubbish, their are 1.2 million Israeli Arabs who live in Israel who they
have no intention of expelling as long as they don't engage in terrorist
activity or provide intelligence to the W Bank and Gaza.


The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can

continue on with it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these
people a vote. No wonder there is a uprising by the Israeli Arab
population against a government voted in by a extremist minority(the
Zionazi jews)



An uprising? When? Voicing their opposition to some Israeli policy,sure. but
they live in a functioning democracy and have the right to say so, unlike
their felllow Arabs anywhere else.They have members of parliament and full
voting rights..They know they are better off economically than the average
Arab in an Arab country.They are entitled to a good education and work with
Israelis and usually get along with them.

.


It sort of reminds me of Iraq, and Saddam running the show with the
support of the minority Sunni's, while at the same time slaughtering
the majority Shiites. These civilians of Israel want a vote, and want
a voice, but they are being oppressed by a government voted in by a
minority.



What civilians are you referring to? The Israeli Arabs have a vote, the
Palestinians in the W Bank and Gaza are not Israeli citizens, so they don't
have the right to vote in Israel. If they were prepared to consider peace
,they would have a state run by themselves in which they could vote .



We should support this civilian uprising, something the Shiites tried
to do but failed. Hopefully these Palestinians will be successful.



You are very misinformed as to the situation.It has only very recently been
suggested by anyone in the territories that they should perhaps look to
pressuring Israel to let them become citizens and for obvious reasons. They
breed like rabbits and know that they would soon outnumber the Jews and take
control through the ballot box. Israel isn't stupid enough to fall for it,
given they will try to force their religion on all Israelis , impose Sharia
and their philosophy Israel might as well shoot themselves than do that.

You know of course that the Jordanians (the majority iof them come from
Jordan and Egypt) don't want them and the W Bank and Gaza back. King Hussein
and Abdullah are quite blint about it having experienced their presence in
the 1970's. They were glad to see the last of them and most Arab countries
concurs.They know the trouble it would cause within their kingdom.

Idiot! Why should those countries have to deal with a problem
created by the zio-NAZIS????
.

User: "amigocabal"

Title: Re: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote 03 Feb 2004 07:16:21 AM
You got that one on the knocker!
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:GjHTb.40509$Wa.36748@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied territories
sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be examined.

You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the civilians who
live on it. The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can continue on

with

it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these people a vote. No wonder
there is a uprising by the Israeli Arab population against a government
voted in by a extremist minority(the Zionazi jews)

It sort of reminds me of Iraq, and Saddam running the show with the

support

of the minority Sunni's, while at the same time slaughtering the majority
Shiites. These civilians of Israel want a vote, and want a voice, but they
are being oppressed by a government voted in by a minority.

We should support this civilian uprising, something the Shiites tried to

do

but failed. Hopefully these Palestinians will be successful.

(Information sourced from www.encyclopedia.com)

The Gaza Strip (2003 est. pop. 1,200,000) is a rectangular coastal area
(c.140 sq mi/370 sq km) on the Mediterranean Sea adjoining Egypt and

Israel,

in what was formerly SW Palestine.

Westbank, formerly part of Palestine , after 1949 administered by Jordan,
since 1967 occupied by Israel (1995 est. pop. 1,320,000)

officially State of Israel, republic (1995 est. pop. 5,607,900),
Israel proper is made up of about 82% Jews, about 16% Arabs, and 2% Druze
and others.

Total Arab vote 60%.

-TheMan-


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User: "Iskandar Baharuddin"

Title: Re: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote 03 Feb 2004 07:34:29 AM
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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You got that one on the knocker!
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:GjHTb.40509$Wa.36748@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied

territories

sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be examined.

You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the

civilians who

live on it. The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can

continue on

with

it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these people a vote.

No wonder

there is a uprising by the Israeli Arab population against a

government

voted in by a extremist minority(the Zionazi jews)

It sort of reminds me of Iraq, and Saddam running the show with

the

support

of the minority Sunni's, while at the same time slaughtering the

majority

Shiites. These civilians of Israel want a vote, and want a

voice, but they

are being oppressed by a government voted in by a minority.

We should support this civilian uprising, something the Shiites

tried to

do

but failed. Hopefully these Palestinians will be successful.

(Information sourced from www.encyclopedia.com)

The Gaza Strip (2003 est. pop. 1,200,000) is a rectangular

coastal area

(c.140 sq mi/370 sq km) on the Mediterranean Sea adjoining Egypt

and

Israel,

in what was formerly SW Palestine.

Westbank, formerly part of Palestine , after 1949 administered

by Jordan,

since 1967 occupied by Israel (1995 est. pop. 1,320,000)

officially State of Israel, republic (1995 est. pop. 5,607,900),
Israel proper is made up of about 82% Jews, about 16% Arabs, and

2% Druze

and others.

Total Arab vote 60%.

-TheMan-

This is most peculiar. What point are you trying to make? That if
Palestine had never been partitioned there would be an Arab
majority?
Difficult to see the relevance, considering that the British Mandate
was partitioned by the UN.
Izzy
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User: "amigocabal"

Title: Re: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote 03 Feb 2004 08:33:03 AM
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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You got that one on the knocker!
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:GjHTb.40509$Wa.36748@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip occupied

territories

sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be examined.

You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the

civilians who

live on it. The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can

continue on

with

it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these people a vote.

No wonder

there is a uprising by the Israeli Arab population against a

government

voted in by a extremist minority(the Zionazi jews)

It sort of reminds me of Iraq, and Saddam running the show with

the

support

of the minority Sunni's, while at the same time slaughtering the

majority

Shiites. These civilians of Israel want a vote, and want a

voice, but they

are being oppressed by a government voted in by a minority.

We should support this civilian uprising, something the Shiites

tried to

do

but failed. Hopefully these Palestinians will be successful.

(Information sourced from www.encyclopedia.com)

The Gaza Strip (2003 est. pop. 1,200,000) is a rectangular

coastal area

(c.140 sq mi/370 sq km) on the Mediterranean Sea adjoining Egypt

and

Israel,

in what was formerly SW Palestine.

Westbank, formerly part of Palestine , after 1949 administered

by Jordan,

since 1967 occupied by Israel (1995 est. pop. 1,320,000)

officially State of Israel, republic (1995 est. pop. 5,607,900),
Israel proper is made up of about 82% Jews, about 16% Arabs, and

2% Druze

and others.

Total Arab vote 60%.

-TheMan-

This is most peculiar. What point are you trying to make? That if
Palestine had never been partitioned there would be an Arab
majority?

Difficult to see the relevance, considering that the British Mandate
was partitioned by the UN.

Izzy

No, it has not! The mandate provides for the "Jewish Homeland" in
Palestine, not the other way around!
.
User: "Iskandar Baharuddin"

Title: Re: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote 03 Feb 2004 08:40:55 AM
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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You got that one on the knocker!
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip

occupied

territories

sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be examined.

You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the

civilians who

live on it. The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can

continue on

with

it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these people a

vote.

No wonder

there is a uprising by the Israeli Arab population against a

government

voted in by a extremist minority(the Zionazi jews)

It sort of reminds me of Iraq, and Saddam running the show

with

the

support

of the minority Sunni's, while at the same time slaughtering

the

majority

Shiites. These civilians of Israel want a vote, and want a

voice, but they

are being oppressed by a government voted in by a minority.

We should support this civilian uprising, something the

Shiites

tried to

do

but failed. Hopefully these Palestinians will be successful.

(Information sourced from www.encyclopedia.com)

The Gaza Strip (2003 est. pop. 1,200,000) is a rectangular

coastal area

(c.140 sq mi/370 sq km) on the Mediterranean Sea adjoining

Egypt

and

Israel,

in what was formerly SW Palestine.

Westbank, formerly part of Palestine , after 1949

administered

by Jordan,

since 1967 occupied by Israel (1995 est. pop. 1,320,000)

officially State of Israel, republic (1995 est. pop.

5,607,900),

Israel proper is made up of about 82% Jews, about 16% Arabs,

and

2% Druze

and others.

Total Arab vote 60%.

-TheMan-

This is most peculiar. What point are you trying to make? That

if

Palestine had never been partitioned there would be an Arab
majority?

Difficult to see the relevance, considering that the British

Mandate

was partitioned by the UN.

Izzy

No, it has not! The mandate provides for the "Jewish Homeland" in
Palestine, not the other way around!

Read 181
Izzy
.
User: "TheMan"

Title: Re: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote 03 Feb 2004 12:09:00 PM
"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
news:401fa35f$1@news.highway1.com.au...


"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:FaNTb.7478$jH6.5581@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

You got that one on the knocker!
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:GjHTb.40509$Wa.36748@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

The reason why they call the West bank and Gaza Strip

occupied

territories

sometimes, and Israels land other times has to be examined.

You see the problem is, the Jews want the land but not the

civilians who

live on it. The reason why this is so, Israeli minority can

continue on

with

it's fradulent "democracy" without giving these people a

vote.

No wonder

there is a uprising by the Israeli Arab population against a

government

voted in by a extremist minority(the Zionazi jews)

It sort of reminds me of Iraq, and Saddam running the show

with

the

support

of the minority Sunni's, while at the same time slaughtering

the

majority

Shiites. These civilians of Israel want a vote, and want a

voice, but they

are being oppressed by a government voted in by a minority.

We should support this civilian uprising, something the

Shiites

tried to

do

but failed. Hopefully these Palestinians will be successful.

(Information sourced from www.encyclopedia.com)

The Gaza Strip (2003 est. pop. 1,200,000) is a rectangular

coastal area

(c.140 sq mi/370 sq km) on the Mediterranean Sea adjoining

Egypt

and

Israel,

in what was formerly SW Palestine.

Westbank, formerly part of Palestine , after 1949

administered

by Jordan,

since 1967 occupied by Israel (1995 est. pop. 1,320,000)

officially State of Israel, republic (1995 est. pop.

5,607,900),

Israel proper is made up of about 82% Jews, about 16% Arabs,

and

2% Druze

and others.

Total Arab vote 60%.

-TheMan-

This is most peculiar. What point are you trying to make? That

if

Palestine had never been partitioned there would be an Arab
majority?

Difficult to see the relevance, considering that the British

Mandate

was partitioned by the UN.

Izzy

No, it has not! The mandate provides for the "Jewish Homeland" in
Palestine, not the other way around!

Read 181

And what do you have to say about the fact Jews are on the Arab portion?
*Waits eagerly for the deafening silence form Izzy*
-TheMan-
.
User: "Iskandar Baharuddin"

Title: Re: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote 03 Feb 2004 06:59:53 PM
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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"Iskandar Baharuddin" <brengsek@mcpc.net.au> wrote in message
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snip

Read 181


And what do you have to say about the fact Jews are on the Arab

portion?


*Waits eagerly for the deafening silence form Izzy*

-TheMan-

When did you ever get a deafening silence from me?
The Israelis are on the Arab portion as a direct result of Arab
attacks.
And please, no crap about "land cannot be acquired by conquest".
This has been dealt with several times.
BTW, did you notice the news that Israel is pulling the settlement
out of Gaza?
That must really upset you, and Hamas.
Izzy
.


User: "Tilly"

Title: Re: Why the Israeli's are ***** scared of letting the Palestinians vote 03 Feb 2004 08:15:51 PM
Iskandar Baharuddin wrote:

Read 181

Izzy

Amigocabal (Alex Seredian) is a pathological liar. I am sure you have
realised he is an ignorant buffoon who is only good for a laugh.
Tilly
Bright1_3@hotmail.com
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