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17 Jun 2005 07:50:51 PM |
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
Do not expect Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore to surrender in his fight to
keep the Ten Commandments on display in the rotunda of the state's Supreme
Court building. Moore, a principled man whose judicial temperament is guided
and molded by his belief that there is a God and He is watching, is not
motivated by what may happen to his career as a judge. He is not moved by
the whims of other judges whose rulings are based not in law, but rather in
the blowing, drifting opinions of contemporary societal mores.
Most Americans have no idea of the gravity of the drama unfolding at the
Supreme Court building in Montgomery. Jaded and numbed by fifty years of
abuse by an out-of-control judiciary that usurps the will of the people and
their elected representatives by making law from the bench, it seems we no
longer have any collective memory of what our precious founding documents
say, let alone what they mean.
Just what is it that engenders such hatred by liberals toward The Ten
Commandments? Which of these laws of nature and of nature's God strikes such
fear and loathing in the hearts of the Left?
Is it Commandment number six ("Thou shalt not kill" - or, more accurately
translated, "Thou shalt not commit murder")?
Perhaps it is number eight ("Thou shalt not steal").
Or maybe they just can't stand number nine, ("Thou shalt not bear false
witness).
Is there any thinking person who could look at those three rules and say
that society would be better off if they were disregarded?
How about number ten ("Thou shalt not covet")?
The truth is that it is the first few commandments that cause apoplectic
fits on the Left. Number one especially drives them crazy: "Thou shalt have
no other gods before me." This is followed by, "Thou shalt not make unto
thee any graven image," "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in
vain" and the ever-popular "Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy."
Add to those the admonition to "Honor thy father and mother" and to hear the
Left talk you would think that Ayatollah Roy had set up shop in the Alabama
Supreme Court building.
John Adams once said that the American Constitution was written for a moral
and a religious people, and that it is wholly inadequate for the governing
of any other.
Today's liberals would scoff at such a sentiment. They would claim that
Adams wanted to limit American citizenship exclusively to Christians. Quite
the contrary. Adams understood that free people cannot be coerced into
believing anything against their will. But he also understood that a free
people can recognize the truth when they see it, and that it was only the
self-governing man or woman who can truly be free.
Adams and the other Founders possessed a wisdom that comes only to people
who know that their rights are granted by their Creator, not by other men,
and that government is instituted among men to acknowledge and defend those
rights.
The Founders recognized that lawlessness breeds anarchy, which brings the
terrible power of tyranny down upon the people. They knew that those who
fled to these shores seeking religious and economic freedom did so not for
the right simply to do what they wanted to do, but rather for the right to
do what they ought to do.
In a perfect America, where the Constitution was revered and God was
exalted, we would all know such freedom. Instead, we have traded our
birthright for a society filled with self-indulgence and a debate over
whether it is appropriate to acknowledge God in public.
May God give us a million more Roy Moores.
--
I read the Prize Cases to stand for the proposition
that the President has independent authority to repel
aggressive acts by third parties even without specific
congressional authorization, and courts may not review
the level of force selected.
Campbell v. Clinton, 203 F.3d 19, 27 (D.C. Cir. 2000) (Silberman,
J., concurring)
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| User: "thomas p" |
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29 Jul 2005 05:25:44 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:47:44 -0500, "Kelo Disaster" <Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:35:33 -0500, "Kelo Disaster" <Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:23:05 -0500, "Kelo Disaster" <Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:08:02 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
The Blood of Christ washes away the sins of the world. Simple but
yet
a
mystery for the unbeliever.
Those who are condemned by the law do not live under grace. Nothing
has
changed for them.
To become a new creature in Christ takes courage to change. I don't
think
you have in in you.
We aren't the ones hiding behind a myth. Take your sky pixie, your
"holy
book"
and your dead Jew on a stick and put 'em where the sun never shines.
Ah, I've heard that chapter and verse before. You must be an Atheitic
holy
man, one who is hell-bent on controlling and conforming religious
practice
through government control.
And, a particularly nasty one at that!
What a strange fantasy you have. The Christian churches in the West
enjoy great political power especially in the US, yet they continually
talk about the horrible persecution they endure. It must be one of
those religious mysteries.
Fantasy? There's a mystery for you.
Oh well, please elaborate on the "great political power" that the
Christian
churches have in the US.
The president of the US is a professed Christian. He claims his
decisions are guided by god. He consults with Christian ministers
before making decisions. The overwhelming majority of the US Congress
are professed Christians.
And, you would expect what, from a country that is estimated to be 80+%
Christian?
I would expect that Christians are not being persecuted.
What's your alternative? Minority rule? Utopia?
I was not suggesting an alternative. I was pointing out your lie.
While you're at it you might explore the
conditions on their tax-exempt status
Horrors! You mean to say that their privileges are not unlimited?
Obviously that is one step away from being thrown to the lions. I
heard a rumor that the churches were not actually forced to accept a
tax-exempt status, that they could just function like the rest of us,
but that is probably just part of the horrible persecution.
Evidently, the government sees the *various* denominations (not all
Christian) as having social value and therefore offers tax exemptions. BTW,
many non-religious entities take advantage of tax exemptions offered by the
government. It's not a unique privilege. Maybe you, take advantage of
certain tax privileges from time to time. Why would you want to single out
Christian organizations and deny them what so many other organizations take
advantage of?
Who said I did? You were complaining about conditions being put on
their privileges. Why shouldn't there be conditions?
and how the Kelo decision might affect
their "great political power".
Adversely one would hope.
Why? I'm always amused at the logic of the totalitarian types who single out
a particular group to hate.
I will be glad to have a discussion with you, but it is becoming very
tedious responding to your repeated misrepresentations of what I have
said. I have not said anything that could possibly be interpreted as
totalitarian. I am also not the one claiming that a religion which is
believed in by the majority of the population including its leaders is
being persecuted. Try justifying that instead of making up strawman
positions and attributing them to me.
Their track record is well known. Facts are,
that someone's or groups ideology is going to rise to the top. It's usually
starts with a minority and grows to a majority but not always. In any case,
it's almost always the one(s) with the most firepower and willingness to use
it.
Maybe you should take your sig, seriously.
Maybe you should stop lying about other people.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Kelo Disaster" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
29 Jul 2005 06:20:35 PM |
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"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:47:44 -0500, "Kelo Disaster" <Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:35:33 -0500, "Kelo Disaster" <Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:23:05 -0500, "Kelo Disaster"
<Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:d0the11gsiqfp9s49t126dktann0oktblc@4ax.com...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:08:02 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com>
wrote:
The Blood of Christ washes away the sins of the world. Simple
but
yet
a
mystery for the unbeliever.
Those who are condemned by the law do not live under grace.
Nothing
has
changed for them.
To become a new creature in Christ takes courage to change. I
don't
think
you have in in you.
We aren't the ones hiding behind a myth. Take your sky pixie,
your
"holy
book"
and your dead Jew on a stick and put 'em where the sun never
shines.
Ah, I've heard that chapter and verse before. You must be an
Atheitic
holy
man, one who is hell-bent on controlling and conforming religious
practice
through government control.
And, a particularly nasty one at that!
What a strange fantasy you have. The Christian churches in the West
enjoy great political power especially in the US, yet they
continually
talk about the horrible persecution they endure. It must be one of
those religious mysteries.
Fantasy? There's a mystery for you.
Oh well, please elaborate on the "great political power" that the
Christian
churches have in the US.
The president of the US is a professed Christian. He claims his
decisions are guided by god. He consults with Christian ministers
before making decisions. The overwhelming majority of the US Congress
are professed Christians.
And, you would expect what, from a country that is estimated to be 80+%
Christian?
I would expect that Christians are not being persecuted.
What's your alternative? Minority rule? Utopia?
I was not suggesting an alternative. I was pointing out your lie.
While you're at it you might explore the
conditions on their tax-exempt status
Horrors! You mean to say that their privileges are not unlimited?
Obviously that is one step away from being thrown to the lions. I
heard a rumor that the churches were not actually forced to accept a
tax-exempt status, that they could just function like the rest of us,
but that is probably just part of the horrible persecution.
Evidently, the government sees the *various* denominations (not all
Christian) as having social value and therefore offers tax exemptions.
BTW,
many non-religious entities take advantage of tax exemptions offered by
the
government. It's not a unique privilege. Maybe you, take advantage of
certain tax privileges from time to time. Why would you want to single
out
Christian organizations and deny them what so many other organizations
take
advantage of?
Who said I did? You were complaining about conditions being put on
their privileges. Why shouldn't there be conditions?
and how the Kelo decision might affect
their "great political power".
Adversely one would hope.
Why? I'm always amused at the logic of the totalitarian types who single
out
a particular group to hate.
I will be glad to have a discussion with you, but it is becoming very
tedious responding to your repeated misrepresentations of what I have
said. I have not said anything that could possibly be interpreted as
totalitarian. I am also not the one claiming that a religion which is
believed in by the majority of the population including its leaders is
being persecuted. Try justifying that instead of making up strawman
positions and attributing them to me.
Their track record is well known. Facts are,
that someone's or groups ideology is going to rise to the top. It's
usually
starts with a minority and grows to a majority but not always. In any
case,
it's almost always the one(s) with the most firepower and willingness to
use
it.
Maybe you should take your sig, seriously.
Maybe you should stop lying about other people.
Such a poor dodge, really poor. Theses newsgroups have gone to hell. Come
back when you've decided not to run from your position.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "thomas p" |
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30 Jul 2005 01:42:16 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:20:35 -0500, "Kelo Disaster" <Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:47:44 -0500, "Kelo Disaster" <Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:35:33 -0500, "Kelo Disaster" <Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:ebgie1hkkhqctoand7ph1cmvq01g9hrq0t@4ax.com...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:23:05 -0500, "Kelo Disaster"
<Living@USSA.com>
wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:d0the11gsiqfp9s49t126dktann0oktblc@4ax.com...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:08:02 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com>
wrote:
The Blood of Christ washes away the sins of the world. Simple
but
yet
a
mystery for the unbeliever.
Those who are condemned by the law do not live under grace.
Nothing
has
changed for them.
To become a new creature in Christ takes courage to change. I
don't
think
you have in in you.
We aren't the ones hiding behind a myth. Take your sky pixie,
your
"holy
book"
and your dead Jew on a stick and put 'em where the sun never
shines.
Ah, I've heard that chapter and verse before. You must be an
Atheitic
holy
man, one who is hell-bent on controlling and conforming religious
practice
through government control.
And, a particularly nasty one at that!
What a strange fantasy you have. The Christian churches in the West
enjoy great political power especially in the US, yet they
continually
talk about the horrible persecution they endure. It must be one of
those religious mysteries.
Fantasy? There's a mystery for you.
Oh well, please elaborate on the "great political power" that the
Christian
churches have in the US.
The president of the US is a professed Christian. He claims his
decisions are guided by god. He consults with Christian ministers
before making decisions. The overwhelming majority of the US Congress
are professed Christians.
And, you would expect what, from a country that is estimated to be 80+%
Christian?
I would expect that Christians are not being persecuted.
What's your alternative? Minority rule? Utopia?
I was not suggesting an alternative. I was pointing out your lie.
While you're at it you might explore the
conditions on their tax-exempt status
Horrors! You mean to say that their privileges are not unlimited?
Obviously that is one step away from being thrown to the lions. I
heard a rumor that the churches were not actually forced to accept a
tax-exempt status, that they could just function like the rest of us,
but that is probably just part of the horrible persecution.
Evidently, the government sees the *various* denominations (not all
Christian) as having social value and therefore offers tax exemptions.
BTW,
many non-religious entities take advantage of tax exemptions offered by
the
government. It's not a unique privilege. Maybe you, take advantage of
certain tax privileges from time to time. Why would you want to single
out
Christian organizations and deny them what so many other organizations
take
advantage of?
Who said I did? You were complaining about conditions being put on
their privileges. Why shouldn't there be conditions?
and how the Kelo decision might affect
their "great political power".
Adversely one would hope.
Why? I'm always amused at the logic of the totalitarian types who single
out
a particular group to hate.
I will be glad to have a discussion with you, but it is becoming very
tedious responding to your repeated misrepresentations of what I have
said. I have not said anything that could possibly be interpreted as
totalitarian. I am also not the one claiming that a religion which is
believed in by the majority of the population including its leaders is
being persecuted. Try justifying that instead of making up strawman
positions and attributing them to me.
Their track record is well known. Facts are,
I do not know who "they" are. You were making claims about me.
that someone's or groups ideology is going to rise to the top. It's
usually
starts with a minority and grows to a majority but not always. In any
case,
it's almost always the one(s) with the most firepower and willingness to
use
it.
Maybe you should take your sig, seriously.
Maybe you should stop lying about other people.
Such a poor dodge, really poor. Theses newsgroups have gone to hell. Come
back when you've decided not to run from your position.
You lied about me. I pointed it out. Your response above makes no
sense.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
28 Jul 2005 07:19:01 AM |
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:08:02 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
The Blood of Christ washes away the sins of the world. Simple but yet a
mystery for the unbeliever.
No, you mis-spelled "*****".
Why do you lie about those outside your religion?
Those who are condemned by the law do not live under grace. Nothing has
changed for them.
Deliberate stupidity and nastiness from a brainwashed god-bot who has
no idea how to behave towards those outside his religion.
To become a new creature in Christ takes courage to change. I don't think
you have in in you.
Don't be so stupid.
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| User: "Gail Futoran" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
27 Jul 2005 02:10:40 PM |
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[newsgroups trimmed]
"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote
[snip]
Liberalism has lead to the abomination of Christianity and our founding
principals of God and country
If the "abomination of Christianity" includes
eliminating slavery, giving the vote to African
Americans and women, then Christianity has
a lot to answer for. It's not really the religion
of compassion and tolerance, forgiveness and
love, is it? Or maybe it is if you're the "right"
gender, the "right" color, the "right" socio-
economic status, etc. etc.
Really, do you guys ever pay attention to history
and the tenets of your religion? The fact that
most if not all human progress appears to be
imcompatible with your religion? It's not a
tough comparison; any reasonably awake 2nd
grader could see it.
Please, the next time you need a medical
procedure to save your life, pray instead.
Gail
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
18 Jul 2005 08:59:52 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ubbnd1dgl817at3ptq1bld3nad7046suhh@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical revisist
Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they not
say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified it
in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the Left"
are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in the
minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion so
they made it religiously neutral.
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| User: "CB" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
18 Jul 2005 10:48:30 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ubbnd1dgl817at3ptq1bld3nad7046suhh@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical revisist
Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they not
say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified it
in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the Left"
are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in the
minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion so
they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self discipline
and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic where today not even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex at an
earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are teaching.
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| User: "suds mcduff" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
18 Jul 2005 11:03:18 AM |
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It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs
----Youth back then had alcohol,and used it.
and are having sex at an
earlier age.
----I doubt it.There were brothels in every major city back then.
One only has to look at what public schools are teaching.
----How to pass state mandated tests?
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| User: "1766 Dead" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
18 Jul 2005 12:59:10 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:q5dnd113r836u930qge0k7li6upfn7jsup@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ubbnd1dgl817at3ptq1bld3nad7046suhh@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical revisist
Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they not
say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified it
in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the Left"
are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in the
minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion so
they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self discipline
and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic where today not even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
I take it that Christians are incapable of teaching such values at
home or in church, and need state assistance to do so?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex at an
earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are teaching.
Actually, in the 19th century, the abortion rate was actually higher
than it is today, and a lot of women aged 17 or younger go married and
immediately had six-month "full term" pregnancies.
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| User: "CB" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
19 Jul 2005 07:49:51 AM |
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"1766 Dead" <zepp#22111766dead@nospamzeppscommentaries.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will always
be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical revisist
Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they not
say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified it
in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the Left"
are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in the
minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion so
they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self discipline
and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic where today not
even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless
Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
I take it that Christians are incapable of teaching such values at
home or in church, and need state assistance to do so?
We do and we resent the way Liberalism instills its filthy values onto our
youth.
So why 'is' "Johnny has two daddies" in school libraries? Why is Abortion
crept into the counseling options for minors without consent?
Why do professors wear their politics on their sleeves?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex at an
earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are teaching.
Actually, in the 19th century, the abortion rate was actually higher
than it is today, and a lot of women aged 17 or younger go married and
immediately had six-month "full term" pregnancies.
Thank you President Bush?
I suppose that gives you comfort. You dismiss how government has stolen
parental rights to know their child is getting a major life (death) changing
operation!
CB
Approximate number of abortions in the U.S. per year (based on assumptions
by the Alan Guttmacher Institute).
1996 - 1,365,700
1995 - 1,363,700
1994 - 1,431,000
1993 - 1,500,000
1992 - 1,528,900
1991 - 1,556,500
1990 - 1,608,600
1989 - 1,566,900
1988 - 1,590,800
1987 - 1,559,100
1986 - 1,574,000
1985 - 1,588,600
1984 - 1,577,200
1983 - 1,575,000
1982 - 1,573,900
1981 - 1,577,300
1980 - 1,553,900
1979 - 1,497,700
1978 - 1,409,600
1977 - 1,316,700
1976 - 1,179,300
1975 - 1,034,200
1974 - 898,600
1973 - 774,600
Where are your Abortion statistics? It looks to me like it's becoming as
common as having a wart removed
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/abortionstats/a/aaabortionstats.htm
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19 Jul 2005 07:57:35 AM |
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will
always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against
Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical
revisist Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they
not say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified
it in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the
Left" are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in
the minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion
so they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self
discipline and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic
where today not even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless
Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
I take it that Christians are incapable of teaching such values at
home or in church, and need state assistance to do so?
We do and we resent the way Liberalism instills its filthy values onto
our youth.
So why 'is' "Johnny has two daddies" in school libraries? Why is
Abortion crept into the counseling options for minors without consent?
Why do professors wear their politics on their sleeves?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex at
an earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are
teaching.
Actually, in the 19th century, the abortion rate was actually higher
than it is today, and a lot of women aged 17 or younger go married and
immediately had six-month "full term" pregnancies.
Thank you President Bush?
I suppose that gives you comfort. You dismiss how government has stolen
parental rights to know their child is getting a major life (death)
changing operation!
Funny that conservatives talk about
parental rights but not personal rights.
Do women have the right to make their
own health decisions? Not if the Control
Freaks of the Right have their way....
Mitchell Holman
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time
out from demanding more flag burning laws, more
abortion laws, more drug laws, more obscenity laws,
and more police surveillance to remind us that we
need to "get the government off our backs".
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| User: "CB" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
19 Jul 2005 08:17:12 AM |
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"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ubbnd1dgl817at3ptq1bld3nad7046suhh@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will
always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against
Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical
revisist Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they
not say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified
it in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the
Left" are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in
the minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion
so they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self
discipline and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic
where today not even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless
Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
I take it that Christians are incapable of teaching such values at
home or in church, and need state assistance to do so?
We do and we resent the way Liberalism instills its filthy values onto
our youth.
So why 'is' "Johnny has two daddies" in school libraries? Why is
Abortion crept into the counseling options for minors without consent?
Why do professors wear their politics on their sleeves?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex at
an earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are
teaching.
Actually, in the 19th century, the abortion rate was actually higher
than it is today, and a lot of women aged 17 or younger go married and
immediately had six-month "full term" pregnancies.
Thank you President Bush?
I suppose that gives you comfort. You dismiss how government has stolen
parental rights to know their child is getting a major life (death)
changing operation!
Funny that conservatives talk about
parental rights but not personal rights.
Do women have the right to make their
own health decisions? Not if the Control
Freaks of the Right have their way....
The DemocRAT Party has allowed Radical Liberalism to instill values which
created a culture of death.
Today that party is reaping the Karma of that culture
--
CB
"Such is the moral construction of the world that no national crime passes
unpunished in the long run... Were present oppressors to reflect on the same
truth, they would spare to their own countries the penalties on their
present wrongs which will be inflicted on them in future times. The seeds of
hatred and revenge which they [sow] with a large hand will not fail to
produce their fruits in time. Like their brother robbers on the highway,
they suppose the escape of the moment a final escape and deem infamy and
future risk countervailed by present gain."
- Thomas Jefferson, 18th-century American Founding Father, early
19th century U.S. president (letter to Francois de Marbois, 1817)
--
What comes around, goes around
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
19 Jul 2005 09:38:56 AM |
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in message
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The DemocRAT Party has allowed Radical Liberalism to instill values which
created a culture of death.
It's you right-wingers who love death.
You oppose abortion because you want people to die.
You oppose restrictions on pollution because you want people to die.
You oppose living wages because you want people to die.
You oppose universal heathcare because you want people to die.
You support warfare because you want people to die.
You support nuclear weapons because you want people to die.
You support global warming because you want people to die.
You oppose teaching people about safe sex because you want people to die.
You oppose fighting poverty because you want people to die.
You oppose AIDS research because you want people to die.
You oppose a ban on landmines because you want people to die.
You make terrorism more likely because you want people to die.
And you support religious brainwashing because you want to make people more
willing to die.
On the contrary, we liberals love LIFE, PEACE, FREEDOM, EQUALITY, FAIRNESS
and JUSTICE...for EVERYONE.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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19 Jul 2005 09:40:20 AM |
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"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in message
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The DemocRAT Party has allowed Radical Liberalism to instill values
which
created a culture of death.
It's you right-wingers who love death.
You oppose abortion because you want people to die.
You oppose restrictions on pollution because you want people to die.
You oppose living wages because you want people to die.
You oppose universal heathcare because you want people to die.
You support warfare because you want people to die.
You support nuclear weapons because you want people to die.
You support global warming because you want people to die.
You oppose teaching people about safe sex because you want people to die.
You oppose fighting poverty because you want people to die.
You oppose AIDS research because you want people to die.
You oppose a ban on landmines because you want people to die.
You make terrorism more likely because you want people to die.
And you support religious brainwashing because you want to make people
more
willing to die.
Oh yeah, and how could I forget:
You support the death penalty because you want to people to die.
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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| Title: Re: Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
19 Jul 2005 09:32:07 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ubbnd1dgl817at3ptq1bld3nad7046suhh@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will
always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one
belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the
historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against
Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical
revisist Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they
not say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified
it in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the
Left" are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in
the minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even
the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion
so they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self
discipline and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic
where today not even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless
Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
I take it that Christians are incapable of teaching such values at
home or in church, and need state assistance to do so?
We do and we resent the way Liberalism instills its filthy values onto
our youth.
So why 'is' "Johnny has two daddies" in school libraries? Why is
Abortion crept into the counseling options for minors without consent?
Why do professors wear their politics on their sleeves?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex
at
an earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are
teaching.
Actually, in the 19th century, the abortion rate was actually higher
than it is today, and a lot of women aged 17 or younger go married and
immediately had six-month "full term" pregnancies.
Thank you President Bush?
I suppose that gives you comfort. You dismiss how government has stolen
parental rights to know their child is getting a major life (death)
changing operation!
Funny that conservatives talk about
parental rights but not personal rights.
Do women have the right to make their
own health decisions? Not if the Control
Freaks of the Right have their way....
The DemocRAT Party has allowed Radical Liberalism to instill values which
created a culture of death.
Modern Conservative: Some who take time out from
demanding more executions and more carpet bombing of
villages to complain that liberals are a "culture of
death"............
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:35:02 PM |
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CB wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote in message
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ubbnd1dgl817at3ptq1bld3nad7046suhh@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will
always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against
Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical
revisist Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they
not say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified
it in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the
Left" are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in
the minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion
so they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self
discipline and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic
where today not even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless
Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
I take it that Christians are incapable of teaching such values at
home or in church, and need state assistance to do so?
We do and we resent the way Liberalism instills its filthy values onto
our youth.
So why 'is' "Johnny has two daddies" in school libraries? Why is
Abortion crept into the counseling options for minors without consent?
Why do professors wear their politics on their sleeves?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex at
an earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are
teaching.
Actually, in the 19th century, the abortion rate was actually higher
than it is today, and a lot of women aged 17 or younger go married and
immediately had six-month "full term" pregnancies.
Thank you President Bush?
I suppose that gives you comfort. You dismiss how government has stolen
parental rights to know their child is getting a major life (death)
changing operation!
Funny that conservatives talk about
parental rights but not personal rights.
Do women have the right to make their
own health decisions? Not if the Control
Freaks of the Right have their way....
The DemocRAT ...
<snip>
Can you not talk about half of America without insulting it?
I don't think so.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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20 Jul 2005 03:48:42 AM |
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CB wrote:
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ubbnd1dgl817at3ptq1bld3nad7046suhh@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will
always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against
Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical
revisist Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they
not say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified
it in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the
Left" are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in
the minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion
so they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self
discipline and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic
where today not even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless
Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
I take it that Christians are incapable of teaching such values at
home or in church, and need state assistance to do so?
We do and we resent the way Liberalism instills its filthy values onto
our youth.
So why 'is' "Johnny has two daddies" in school libraries? Why is
Abortion crept into the counseling options for minors without consent?
Why do professors wear their politics on their sleeves?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex
at
an earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are
teaching.
Actually, in the 19th century, the abortion rate was actually higher
than it is today, and a lot of women aged 17 or younger go married and
immediately had six-month "full term" pregnancies.
Thank you President Bush?
I suppose that gives you comfort. You dismiss how government has stolen
parental rights to know their child is getting a major life (death)
changing operation!
Funny that conservatives talk about
parental rights but not personal rights.
Do women have the right to make their
own health decisions? Not if the Control
Freaks of the Right have their way....
The DemocRAT ...
<snip>
Can you not talk about half of America without insulting it?
I don't think so.
Sheeple will do anything if well fed through years of false promises of a
FREE chicken in every pot.
"The tendency of liberals is to create bodies of men and women-of all
classes-detached from tradition, alienated from religion, and susceptible to
mass suggestion-mob rule. And a mob will be no less a mob if it is well fed,
well clothed, well housed, and well disciplined." -- T. S. Eliot
The modern DNC
CB
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CB wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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CB wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote in message
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in
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"1766 Dead" <zepp#22111766dead@nospamzeppscommentaries.com> wrote in
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will
always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against
Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical
revisist Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they
not say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified
it in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the
Left" are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in
the minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion
so they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self
discipline and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic
where today not even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless
Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
I take it that Christians are incapable of teaching such values at
home or in church, and need state assistance to do so?
We do and we resent the way Liberalism instills its filthy values onto
our youth.
So why 'is' "Johnny has two daddies" in school libraries? Why is
Abortion crept into the counseling options for minors without consent?
Why do professors wear their politics on their sleeves?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex
at
an earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are
teaching.
Actually, in the 19th century, the abortion rate was actually higher
than it is today, and a lot of women aged 17 or younger go married and
immediately had six-month "full term" pregnancies.
Thank you President Bush?
I suppose that gives you comfort. You dismiss how government has stolen
parental rights to know their child is getting a major life (death)
changing operation!
Funny that conservatives talk about
parental rights but not personal rights.
Do women have the right to make their
own health decisions? Not if the Control
Freaks of the Right have their way....
The DemocRAT ...
<snip>
Can you not talk about half of America without insulting it?
I don't think so.
Sheeple will do anything if well fed through years of false promises of a
FREE chicken in every pot.
"The tendency of liberals is to create bodies of men and women-of all
classes-detached from tradition, alienated from religion, and susceptible to
mass suggestion-mob rule. And a mob will be no less a mob if it is well fed,
well clothed, well housed, and well disciplined." -- T. S. Eliot
The modern DNC
Non-sequitur. Argumentum ad verecundiam.
T.S. Eliot was a British citizen at the time he wrote that and the
liberals in England were fairly right-wing and, in no way, shape, or
form, do the liberals of Britain of that time reflect the "modern DNC."
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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21 Jul 2005 05:59:27 PM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
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CB wrote:
Sheeple will do anything if well fed through years of false promises of
a FREE chicken in every pot.
"The tendency of liberals is to create bodies of men and women-of all
classes-detached from tradition, alienated from religion, and
susceptible to mass suggestion-mob rule. And a mob will be no less a
mob if it is well fed, well clothed, well housed, and well
disciplined." -- T. S. Eliot
The modern DNC
Non-sequitur. Argumentum ad verecundiam.
T.S. Eliot was a British citizen at the time he wrote that and the
liberals in England were fairly right-wing and, in no way, shape, or
form, do the liberals of Britain of that time reflect the "modern DNC."
Conservatives are well known for getting
their quotes mixed up and not knowing how to
use them.
Mitchell Holman
"I should have caught the mistake on that spelling
bee card. But as Mark Twain once said, `You should
never trust a man who has only one way to spell a
word'."
Vice President Dan Quayle, actually quoting from
Pres. Andrew Jackson.
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20 Jul 2005 09:00:31 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:51:45 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
CB wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:aThDe.7739$k_.6282@trnddc07...
CB wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:Xns969850F9C791Dta2eene2@216.196.97.131...
"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in
news:CE6De.761$Wt3.350@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
"1766 Dead" <zepp#22111766dead@nospamzeppscommentaries.com> wrote in
message news:vbrnd1puupk9sopj45u6kamn9d4bfsqgcc@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:q5dnd113r836u930qge0k7li6upfn7jsup@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ubbnd1dgl817at3ptq1bld3nad7046suhh@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will
always be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to say Biblical principles should not be
allowed
in government and school is to either be ignorant of the historic
intent
of the founding fathers, or blatantly bigoted against
Christianity.
lots more for the Left to deny -
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
The only people who are denying anything, are the historical
revisist Christians who lie about the founders.
If they intended this to be "a Christian Nation" then why did they
not say so in the Constitution?
In fact they went out of their way to prevent this. And clarified
it in the BOR.
And has it occurred to you that 70% of those you dismiss as "the
Left" are some kind of Christian?
80% of the signers of the DOI were Christians, once again YOU are in
the minority
What has that got to do with anything?
They weren't today's fundamentalists. They neither established a
Christian nation nor allowed any religion to take control.
It was all about the freedom of the individual. Nobody stops
Christians practising their religion, then or now. They wrote the
constitution to give people freedom of religious conscience. Even the
Christian founders did that.
The horrors of the reformation were too recent. They knew, some of
them first hand, what happens when the government supports religion
so they made it religiously neutral.
Is that why EVERY shoo in this once great nation taught from a moral
Christian perspective which instilled respect for elders, self
discipline and the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic
where today not even
the Pledge of Allegiance is recited because of the minority Godless
Secular
Humanist whined "no fair"?
I take it that Christians are incapable of teaching such values at
home or in church, and need state assistance to do so?
We do and we resent the way Liberalism instills its filthy values onto
our youth.
So why 'is' "Johnny has two daddies" in school libraries? Why is
Abortion crept into the counseling options for minors without consent?
Why do professors wear their politics on their sleeves?
It's no coincidence that today our youth do drugs and are having sex
at
an earlier age. One only has to look at what public schools are
teaching.
Actually, in the 19th century, the abortion rate was actually higher
than it is today, and a lot of women aged 17 or younger go married and
immediately had six-month "full term" pregnancies.
Thank you President Bush?
I suppose that gives you comfort. You dismiss how government has stolen
parental rights to know their child is getting a major life (death)
changing operation!
Funny that conservatives talk about
parental rights but not personal rights.
Do women have the right to make their
own health decisions? Not if the Control
Freaks of the Right have their way....
The DemocRAT ...
<snip>
Can you not talk about half of America without insulting it?
I don't think so.
Sheeple will do anything if well fed through years of false promises of a
FREE chicken in every pot.
"The tendency of liberals is to create bodies of men and women-of all
classes-detached from tradition, alienated from religion, and susceptible to
mass suggestion-mob rule. And a mob will be no less a mob if it is well fed,
well clothed, well housed, and well disciplined." -- T. S. Eliot
The modern DNC
Non-sequitur. Argumentum ad verecundiam.
T.S. Eliot was a British citizen at the time he wrote that and the
liberals in England were fairly right-wing and, in no way, shape, or
form, do the liberals of Britain of that time reflect the "modern DNC."
I got curious and did a search. If you type "liberals" with a lower
case, you get a collection of right wing blogs all quote the same
quote, without specific attribution or source link. If, on the other
hand, you type "Liberals" you get a rich trove of Eliot material. The
quote, attacking the party more than the philosophy, came at a time
when Eliot was using his magazine, the Criterion, as a sounding board
for his deeply conflicted views on the rise of European fascism. He
simultanousely blamed Liberals for allowing Europe to decline into
such moral degeneracy (he favored a return to a glorified middle ages
in which the Church acted as benign overseer), which slamming what he
called "free thinking Jews" for allowing the dark forces of racism to
invade European culture. Shortly after that, he suffered another
great bout of depression, and gave up the Criterion.
source: London Review of Books,
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n18/eagl01_.html
"I have not ordered the use of force. I hope
the use of force will not become necessary.
Hopefully this can be done peacefully.
Hopefully we can do this without any
military action."
--Putsch, three months after telling Blair he planned
to attack as soon as he had the phony intelligence
and propaganda all in place.
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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19 Jul 2005 09:25:52 AM |
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in message
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"1766 Dead" <zepp#22111766dead@nospamzeppscommentaries.com> wrote in
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:48:30 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:q5dnd113r836u930qge0k7li6upfn7jsup@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:54:13 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ubbnd1dgl817at3ptq1bld3nad7046suhh@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:31 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
There is no such thing as a pluralistic society. There will
always
be
one
dominant view, otherwise it will be in transition from one belief
system
to another. Therefore, to | | | | | |
