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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments |
Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
Do not expect Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore to surrender in his fight to
keep the Ten Commandments on display in the rotunda of the state's Supreme
Court building. Moore, a principled man whose judicial temperament is guided
and molded by his belief that there is a God and He is watching, is not
motivated by what may happen to his career as a judge. He is not moved by
the whims of other judges whose rulings are based not in law, but rather in
the blowing, drifting opinions of contemporary societal mores.
Most Americans have no idea of the gravity of the drama unfolding at the
Supreme Court building in Montgomery. Jaded and numbed by fifty years of
abuse by an out-of-control judiciary that usurps the will of the people and
their elected representatives by making law from the bench, it seems we no
longer have any collective memory of what our precious founding documents
say, let alone what they mean.
Just what is it that engenders such hatred by liberals toward The Ten
Commandments? Which of these laws of nature and of nature's God strikes such
fear and loathing in the hearts of the Left?
Is it Commandment number six ("Thou shalt not kill" - or, more accurately
translated, "Thou shalt not commit murder")?
Perhaps it is number eight ("Thou shalt not steal").
Or maybe they just can't stand number nine, ("Thou shalt not bear false
witness).
Is there any thinking person who could look at those three rules and say
that society would be better off if they were disregarded?
How about number ten ("Thou shalt not covet")?
The truth is that it is the first few commandments that cause apoplectic
fits on the Left. Number one especially drives them crazy: "Thou shalt have
no other gods before me." This is followed by, "Thou shalt not make unto
thee any graven image," "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in
vain" and the ever-popular "Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy."
Add to those the admonition to "Honor thy father and mother" and to hear the
Left talk you would think that Ayatollah Roy had set up shop in the Alabama
Supreme Court building.
John Adams once said that the American Constitution was written for a moral
and a religious people, and that it is wholly inadequate for the governing
of any other.
Today's liberals would scoff at such a sentiment. They would claim that
Adams wanted to limit American citizenship exclusively to Christians. Quite
the contrary. Adams understood that free people cannot be coerced into
believing anything against their will. But he also understood that a free
people can recognize the truth when they see it, and that it was only the
self-governing man or woman who can truly be free.
Adams and the other Founders possessed a wisdom that comes only to people
who know that their rights are granted by their Creator, not by other men,
and that government is instituted among men to acknowledge and defend those
rights.
The Founders recognized that lawlessness breeds anarchy, which brings the
terrible power of tyranny down upon the people. They knew that those who
fled to these shores seeking religious and economic freedom did so not for
the right simply to do what they wanted to do, but rather for the right to
do what they ought to do.
In a perfect America, where the Constitution was revered and God was
exalted, we would all know such freedom. Instead, we have traded our
birthright for a society filled with self-indulgence and a debate over
whether it is appropriate to acknowledge God in public.
May God give us a million more Roy Moores.
--
I read the Prize Cases to stand for the proposition
that the President has independent authority to repel
aggressive acts by third parties even without specific
congressional authorization, and courts may not review
the level of force selected.
Campbell v. Clinton, 203 F.3d 19, 27 (D.C. Cir. 2000) (Silberman,
J., concurring)
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| User: "JTEM" |
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18 Jun 2005 08:15:05 AM |
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote
Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
Which version?
The version that Judge Moore tried to inflict on
*Everybody* in Alabama was the Protestant-only
version, as found in the King James bible. It's
different from the Catholic & Jewish version.
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18 Jun 2005 01:09:06 AM |
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
Do not expect Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore
Actually, don't expect any truth from the ***** strawmen. The writer of
the article (Doug Patton) and the poster (Dana) are full of *****, along with
anyone that believes their idiotic ramblings and ficticious arguments.
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-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "Dana" |
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18 Jun 2005 01:47:03 AM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
Do not expect Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore to surrender in his fight to
keep the Ten Commandments on display in the rotunda of the state's Supreme
Court building. Moore, a principled man whose judicial temperament is guided
and molded by his belief that there is a God and He is watching, is not
motivated by what may happen to his career as a judge. He is not moved by
the whims of other judges whose rulings are based not in law, but rather in
the blowing, drifting opinions of contemporary societal mores.
Most Americans have no idea of the gravity of the drama unfolding at the
Supreme Court building in Montgomery. Jaded and numbed by fifty years of
abuse by an out-of-control judiciary that usurps the will of the people and
their elected representatives by making law from the bench, it seems we no
longer have any collective memory of what our precious founding documents
say, let alone what they mean.
Just what is it that engenders such hatred by liberals toward The Ten
Commandments? Which of these laws of nature and of nature's God strikes such
fear and loathing in the hearts of the Left?
Is it Commandment number six ("Thou shalt not kill" - or, more accurately
translated, "Thou shalt not commit murder")?
Perhaps it is number eight ("Thou shalt not steal").
Or maybe they just can't stand number nine, ("Thou shalt not bear false
witness).
Is there any thinking person who could look at those three rules and say
that society would be better off if they were disregarded?
How about number ten ("Thou shalt not covet")?
The truth is that it is the first few commandments that cause apoplectic
fits on the Left. Number one especially drives them crazy: "Thou shalt have
no other gods before me." This is followed by, "Thou shalt not make unto
thee any graven image," "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in
vain" and the ever-popular "Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy."
Add to those the admonition to "Honor thy father and mother" and to hear the
Left talk you would think that Ayatollah Roy had set up shop in the Alabama
Supreme Court building.
John Adams once said that the American Constitution was written for a moral
and a religious people, and that it is wholly inadequate for the governing
of any other.
Today's liberals would scoff at such a sentiment. They would claim that
Adams wanted to limit American citizenship exclusively to Christians. Quite
the contrary. Adams understood that free people cannot be coerced into
believing anything against their will. But he also understood that a free
people can recognize the truth when they see it, and that it was only the
self-governing man or woman who can truly be free.
Adams and the other Founders possessed a wisdom that comes only to people
who know that their rights are granted by their Creator, not by other men,
and that government is instituted among men to acknowledge and defend those
rights.
The Founders recognized that lawlessness breeds anarchy, which brings the
terrible power of tyranny down upon the people. They knew that those who
fled to these shores seeking religious and economic freedom did so not for
the right simply to do what they wanted to do, but rather for the right to
do what they ought to do.
In a perfect America, where the Constitution was revered and God was
exalted, we would all know such freedom. Instead, we have traded our
birthright for a society filled with self-indulgence and a debate over
whether it is appropriate to acknowledge God in public.
May God give us a million more Roy Moores.
--
I read the Prize Cases to stand for the proposition
that the President has independent authority to repel
aggressive acts by third parties even without specific
congressional authorization, and courts may not review
the level of force selected.
Campbell v. Clinton, 203 F.3d 19, 27 (D.C. Cir. 2000) (Silberman,
J., concurring)
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| User: "Altared Boy" |
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18 Jun 2005 03:20:01 PM |
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I hate Commandment 13B, where it says that only circumcised gerbils may
enter the rectum of a believer. That's just not fair.
http://ratzingerblog.blog.co.uk/main/
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| User: "1715 Dead" |
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18 Jun 2005 03:58:43 PM |
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On 18 Jun 2005 08:20:01 -0700, "Altared Boy"
<eyesacknootun@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
I hate Commandment 13B, where it says that only circumcised gerbils may
enter the rectum of a believer. That's just not fair.
Well, like many of the mosaic dietary laws, there's actually a
commonsense reason behind the ruling. Infection rates in the *****
with uncircumsized gerbils was much higher, and predominately among
males aged 12 to 18, which was a serious problem for a nomadic tribe
that needed every able-bodied person to survive out in the desert.
The notion that gerbils are circumsized because uncircumsized gerbils
have a higher crime rate is, of course, pure nonsense invented by
romanticists during the mid-Victorian era.
Therefore take anything you read on the Internet with a grain of salt,
no matter how authoritative it sounds.
http://ratzingerblog.blog.co.uk/main/
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| User: "Altared Boy" |
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18 Jun 2005 07:58:23 PM |
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Anyway, the Pope agrees with ME!!!!
http://ratzingerblog.blog.co.u=ADk/main/
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| User: "Altared Boy" |
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18 Jun 2005 07:57:00 PM |
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Look, Mr so-called "1715 Dead" just because you have a degree in
Theology from the University of HeeHaw School of Basketweaving doesn't
mean you are an expert in the small animal veterinary practices of an
obscure, semi-nomadic, pre-Hellenic Levantine tribe.
As any fool knows Commandment 13B is a "metaphor" (look that up in your
Ancient Hebrew Illustrated dictionary -- it's just after
"metamphetamine" and just before "Mexican Wave").
What Moses (Moishe as we Hebroids call him, or Moslem as we Muslims
call him) means by "uncircumcised gerbil" is, of course, the immanence
of divinity in all living things. The scratches on the internal wall of
a youth's rectum are NOT a symbol of the Cubic Zirconia studs on
Michael Jackson's glove, but eschatological scat marks on the underwear
of God's love.
So there.
John 16:3
(For God so loved his Son that a paedophile restraining order had to be
issued)
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| User: "JohnN" |
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20 Jun 2005 01:30:03 PM |
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Altared Boy wrote:
Look, Mr so-called "1715 Dead" just because you have a degree in
Theology from the University of HeeHaw School of Basketweaving doesn't
mean you are an expert in the small animal veterinary practices of an
obscure, semi-nomadic, pre-Hellenic Levantine tribe.
As any fool knows Commandment 13B is a "metaphor" (look that up in your
Ancient Hebrew Illustrated dictionary -- it's just after
"metamphetamine" and just before "Mexican Wave").
What Moses (Moishe as we Hebroids call him, or Moslem as we Muslims
call him)
Also called Molson by Canadians.
JohnN
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| User: "Lone Ranger" |
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30 Jun 2005 07:16:51 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:47:03 -0800, "Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote:
May God give us a million more Roy Moores.
Why? Isn't one nutcase enough?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/06/AR2005060601651.html
One-quarter of all Americans met the criteria for having a mental
illness within the past year, and fully a quarter of those had a
"serious" disorder that significantly disrupted their ability to
function day to day, according to the largest and most detailed survey
of the nation's mental health, published yesterday.
--
Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!
--
The Curse of Tecumseh
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.htm
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| User: "CB" |
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01 Jul 2005 06:53:41 AM |
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"Lone Ranger" <snowball2002@bigfoot.com.spamalamadingdong> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:47:03 -0800, "Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote:
May God give us a million more Roy Moores.
Why? Isn't one nutcase enough?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/06/AR2005060601651.html
One-quarter of all Americans met the criteria for having a mental
illness within the past year, and fully a quarter of those had a
"serious" disorder that significantly disrupted their ability to
function day to day, according to the largest and most detailed survey
of the nation's mental health, published yesterday.
Thus the publication of, "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"
--
Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!
--
The Curse of Tecumseh
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.htm
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18 Jun 2005 02:01:16 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:09:06 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote:
"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
Do not expect Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore
Actually, don't expect any truth from the ***** strawmen. The writer of
the article (Doug Patton) and the poster (Dana) are full of *****, along with
anyone that believes their idiotic ramblings and ficticious arguments.
Oh hell, you should have been around here in 97-98 when the poor *****
was literally spamming half the bandwidth about the Constitution.
Everyone, including some on his "side" were literally making him a
laughing stock
He had to get out of Coral Gable FL,---major ranting from him about
how police "murdered" people
Then to phoenix and dozens of weird sex ads wanting to be ***** and
pissed on (by fat black women)
Last I heard he was in Alaska fucking a polar bear or something
------------------------------------------------------
houston toilet for ladies
</groups?q=author:danaraffaniello%40worldnet.
att.net&start=210&hl=en&lr=&ie=UT>F-8&selm=63j
060%24j0j%40bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net&rnum=225>
use me as your toilet. will be toilet for female parties.
can also be used as a rug, so you can walk on me.
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18 Jun 2005 07:04:29 AM |
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
This is only 2 years out of date. Have you been living in
a barrel, Dana?
Do not expect Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore to surrender in his fight to
keep the Ten Commandments on display in the rotunda of the state's Supreme
Court building. Moore, a principled man whose judicial temperament is
guided
and molded by his belief that there is a God and He is watching, is not
motivated by what may happen to his career as a judge. He is not moved by
the whims of other judges whose rulings are based not in law, but rather
in
the blowing, drifting opinions of contemporary societal mores.
Most Americans have no idea of the gravity of the drama unfolding at the
Supreme Court building in Montgomery. Jaded and numbed by fifty years of
abuse by an out-of-control judiciary that usurps the will of the people
and
their elected representatives by making law from the bench, it seems we no
longer have any collective memory of what our precious founding documents
say, let alone what they mean.
Just what is it that engenders such hatred by liberals toward The Ten
Commandments? Which of these laws of nature and of nature's God strikes
such
fear and loathing in the hearts of the Left?
Is it Commandment number six ("Thou shalt not kill" - or, more accurately
translated, "Thou shalt not commit murder")?
Perhaps it is number eight ("Thou shalt not steal").
Or maybe they just can't stand number nine, ("Thou shalt not bear false
witness).
Is there any thinking person who could look at those three rules and say
that society would be better off if they were disregarded?
How about number ten ("Thou shalt not covet")?
The truth is that it is the first few commandments that cause apoplectic
fits on the Left. Number one especially drives them crazy: "Thou shalt
have
no other gods before me." This is followed by, "Thou shalt not make unto
thee any graven image," "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God
in
vain" and the ever-popular "Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy."
Add to those the admonition to "Honor thy father and mother" and to hear
the
Left talk you would think that Ayatollah Roy had set up shop in the
Alabama
Supreme Court building.
John Adams once said that the American Constitution was written for a
moral
and a religious people, and that it is wholly inadequate for the governing
of any other.
Today's liberals would scoff at such a sentiment. They would claim that
Adams wanted to limit American citizenship exclusively to Christians.
Quite
the contrary. Adams understood that free people cannot be coerced into
believing anything against their will. But he also understood that a free
people can recognize the truth when they see it, and that it was only the
self-governing man or woman who can truly be free.
Adams and the other Founders possessed a wisdom that comes only to people
who know that their rights are granted by their Creator, not by other men,
and that government is instituted among men to acknowledge and defend
those
rights.
The Founders recognized that lawlessness breeds anarchy, which brings the
terrible power of tyranny down upon the people. They knew that those who
fled to these shores seeking religious and economic freedom did so not for
the right simply to do what they wanted to do, but rather for the right to
do what they ought to do.
In a perfect America, where the Constitution was revered and God was
exalted, we would all know such freedom. Instead, we have traded our
birthright for a society filled with self-indulgence and a debate over
whether it is appropriate to acknowledge God in public.
May God give us a million more Roy Moores.
--
I read the Prize Cases to stand for the proposition
that the President has independent authority to repel
aggressive acts by third parties even without specific
congressional authorization, and courts may not review
the level of force selected.
Campbell v. Clinton, 203 F.3d 19, 27 (D.C. Cir. 2000) (Silberman,
J., concurring)
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18 Jun 2005 02:58:52 AM |
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
http://www.geocities.com/bobmelzer/gc10cx.html
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18 Jun 2005 04:50:23 PM |
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
yeah isn't it a shame there isn't some kind of law about us not stealing,
and murdering.
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| User: "Deep Thought" |
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19 Jun 2005 03:54:28 PM |
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
yeah isn't it a shame there isn't some kind of law about us not stealing,
and murdering.
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
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| User: "Dana" |
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19 Jun 2005 05:57:40 PM |
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"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
yeah isn't it a shame there isn't some kind of law about us not
stealing,
and murdering.
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
Quite a few atheists never figured it out, look at Pol Pot, Stalin, and
Hitler.
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| User: "kathryn" |
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20 Jun 2005 08:39:56 PM |
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
yeah isn't it a shame there isn't some kind of law about us not
stealing,
and murdering.
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
Quite a few atheists never figured it out, look at Pol Pot, Stalin, and
Hitler.
So did quite a few religious nuts
Funny how those who believe in god and the bible will still commit crimes
and those who don't believe in god and the bible never consider commiting
crimes.
It's almost like the whole religion thing is irrelevant to the crime
commiting issue. Unless you're sitting at home thinking "Gee Id really like
to stab my next door neighbour but god wouldn't like that"...in which case
you have issues.
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| User: "Tak" |
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20 Jun 2005 08:35:25 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:57:40 -0800, "Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote:
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
Quite a few atheists never figured it out, look at Pol Pot,
Stalin
Russian ortadox
, and
Hitler.
A Devout Catholic
Nice try
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| User: " jls" |
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20 Jun 2005 01:23:19 PM |
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"Tak" <null@null.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:57:40 -0800, "Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote:
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
Quite a few atheists never figured it out, look at Pol Pot,
Stalin
Russian ortadox
, and
Hitler.
A Devout Catholic
Nice try
Yes!
We freethinkers don't hate the 10 K. We think they are kind of funny.
After all, an irrationally jealous god who thinks he can stop his followers
from their characteristic, habitual lying, stealing, greed, and committing
sex offenses is right humorous.
Either cursing or slaughtering grandchildren and great-grandchildren for the
sins of their forefathers ---- now that is hilarious.
And finally, requiring (under penalty of death) that humans love this
devilish god is, well, something to make you almost roll on the floor
laughing. Baal, Moloch, and Mammon, who this god says by implication can
exist but just not in advance of him, are no less nasty.
I like to see the decalog on the town square, where the pigeons can defecate
on it. That's funny too, because you'd think that if this god had any clout
at all he could ward the pigeons away from his favorite document. However,
soon Scotus will remove the dec from the town square, before the Moozle-ums,
Santerians, and Ammonites sue and get judgments awarding them equal public
space for their favorite documents.
Oops, left out the Buddhists and Hindus. They fit in there somewhere too.
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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19 Jun 2005 07:25:18 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:57:40 -0800, Dana wrote:
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote in message
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
yeah isn't it a shame there isn't some kind of law about us not
stealing,
and murdering.
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
Quite a few atheists never figured it out, look at Pol Pot, Stalin, and
Hitler.
And quite a few religious nutcases, many Popes, Jim Jones, the KKK,
Spanish Inquisition, genocide of entire populations throughout the
Americas, three Crusades, etc.
Remember that Hitler used the church to futher his atrocities, move your
reference of Hitler to the religion column.
-- Regards, Curly
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| User: "Dana" |
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19 Jun 2005 11:28:34 PM |
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"Curly Surmudgeon" <curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:57:40 -0800, Dana wrote:
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
yeah isn't it a shame there isn't some kind of law about us not
stealing,
and murdering.
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
Quite a few atheists never figured it out, look at Pol Pot, Stalin, and
Hitler.
And quite a few religious nutcases
So you cannot refute what was posted, so you try to divert the issue. How
typical of a cowardly leftist who will not even fight for his cause.
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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20 Jun 2005 12:30:08 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:28:34 -0800, Dana wrote:
"Curly Surmudgeon" <curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:57:40 -0800, Dana wrote:
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote in message
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
yeah isn't it a shame there isn't some kind of law about us not
stealing,
and murdering.
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
Quite a few atheists never figured it out, look at Pol Pot, Stalin, and
Hitler.
And quite a few religious nutcases
So you cannot refute what was posted, so you try to divert the issue. How
typical of a cowardly leftist who will not even fight for his cause.
Heh, wrong on all counts. First, the number of religious nutcases (that
you snipped) killed substantially more of the population at those points
in history than yours above.
Secondly Hitler belongs in the religious nutcase column.
Third, I was 4F and draft exempt but begged my way into the USAF in 1965
and served for four years.
See the fallacy of following preconceived beliefs rather than evidence?
Not only does it lead to incorrect deductions but makes an idiot out of
you.
-- Regards, Curly
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| User: "Lone Ranger" |
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30 Jun 2005 07:16:50 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:25:18 -0700, Curly Surmudgeon
<curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Dana wrote:
Quite a few atheists never figured it out, look at Pol Pot, Stalin, and
Hitler.
And quite a few religious nutcases, many Popes, Jim Jones, the KKK,
Spanish Inquisition, genocide of entire populations throughout the
Americas, three Crusades, etc.
Remember that Hitler used the church to futher his atrocities, move your
reference of Hitler to the religion column.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/church_in_nazi_germany.htm
In 1936, the Reich Church was created. This did not have the Christian
cross as its symbol but the swastika. The Bible was replaced by "Mein
Kampf" which was placed on the altar. By it was a sword. Only invited
Nazis were allowed to give sermons in a Reich Church.
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Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!
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The Curse of Tecumseh
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.htm
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| User: "Virgil" |
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19 Jun 2005 06:52:58 PM |
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In article <dLidnft2dveuCCjfRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote:
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
There have been societies in which murder WAS a right thing to do.
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20 Jun 2005 08:44:22 AM |
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Virgil wrote:
In article <dLidnft2dveuCCjfRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote:
yeah without a magic invisible space pixie to tell us murder is not the
right thing to do how would we have ever figured that out? 8^)
There have been societies in which murder WAS a right thing to do.
No, there havent. There have been (and still are) societies in which
killing people has sometimes been the right thing, but then, by
definition that type of killing was not defined as murder. It was
defined as many other things such as sacrifice, execution, war but not
murder.
Just like today, in some societies it would be considered murder to
kill someone found guilty of certain crimes, but in Texas, it
considered the right thing to do. In the Aztec society it was
considered to be morally OK to kill people to make sure the sun kept
shining, while in the modern, Western World, it is considered murder.
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| User: "Hü©klëßë®®ÿ Hö§hïmötö" |
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18 Jun 2005 03:09:17 AM |
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
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According to George Carlin.......................
Here is my problem with the ten commandments- why exactly are there 10?
You simply do not need ten. The list of ten commandments was artificially
and deliberately inflated to get it up to ten. Here's what happened:
About 5,000 years ago a bunch of religious and political hustlers got
together to try to figure out how to control people and keep them in line.
They knew people were basically stupid and would believe anything they were
told, so they announced that God had given them some commandments, up on a
mountain, when no one was around.
Well let me ask you this- when they were making this ***** up, why did they
pick 10? Why not 9 or 11? I'll tell you why- because 10 sound official. Ten
sounds important! Ten is the basis for the decimal system, it's a decade,
it's a psychologically satisfying number (the top ten, the ten most wanted,
the ten best dressed). So having ten commandments was really a marketing
decision! It is clearly a ***** list. It's a political document
artificially inflated to sell better. I will now show you how you can reduce
the number of commandments and come up with a list that's a little more
workable and logical. I am going to use the Roman Catholic version because
those were the ones I was taught as a little boy.
Let's start with the first three:
I AM THE LORD THY GOD
THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME
THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN
THOU SHALT KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH
Right off the bat the first three are pure *****. Sabbath day? Lord's
name? strange gods? Spooky language! Designed to scare and control primitive
people. In no way does superstitious nonsense like this apply to the lives
of intelligent civilized humans in the 21st century. So now we're down to 7.
Next:
HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER
Obedience, respect for authority. Just another name for controlling people.
The truth is that obedience and respect shouldn't be automatic. They should
be earned and based on the parent's performance. Some parents deserve
respect, but most of them don't, period. You're down to six.
Now in the interest of logic, something religion is very uncomfortable with,
we're going to jump around the list a little bit.
THOU SHALT NOT STEAL
THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS
Stealing and lying. Well actually, these two both prohibit the same kind of
behavior- dishonesty. So you don't really need two you combine them and call
the commandment "thou shalt not be dishonest". And suddenly you're down to
5.
And as long as we're combining I have two others that belong together:
THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTRY
THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE
Once again, these two prohibit the same type of behavior. In this case it is
marital infidelity. The difference is- coveting takes place in the mind. But
I don't think you should outlaw fantasizing about someone else's wife
because what is a guy gonna think about when he's waxing his carrot? But,
marital fidelity is a good idea so we're gonna keep this one and call it
"thou shalt not be unfaithful". And suddenly we're down to four.
But when you think about it, honesty and fidelity are really part of the
same overall value so, in truth, you could combine the two honesty
commandments with the two fidelity commandments and give them simpler
language, positive language instead of negative language and call the whole
thing "thou shalt always be honest and faithful" and we're down to 3.
THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR"S GOODS
This one is just plain fuckin' stupid. Coveting your neighbor's goods is
what keeps the economy going! Your neighbor gets a vibrator that plays "o
come o ye faithful", and you want one too! Coveting creates jobs, so leave
it alone. You throw out coveting and you're down to 2 now- the big honesty
and fidelity commandment and the one we haven't talked about yet:
THOU SHALT NOT KILL
Murder. But when you think about it, religion has never really had a big
problem with murder. More people have been killed in the name of god than
for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland,
Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the World Trade Center to see
how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout
they are, the more they see murder as being negotiable. It depends on who's
doin the killin' and who's gettin' killed. So, with all of this in mind, I
give you my revised list of the two commandments:
Thou shalt always be honest and faithful
to the provider of thy nookie.
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Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless of course
they pray to a different invisible man than you.
Two is all you need; Moses could have carried them down the hill in his
fuckin' pocket. I wouldn't mind those folks in Alabama posting them on the
courthouse wall, as long as they provided one additional commandment:
Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself.
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20 Jun 2005 01:26:18 PM |
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Dana wrote:
Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
Almost two whole years ago...
Do not expect Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore to surrender in his fight to
keep the Ten Commandments on display in the rotunda of the state's Supreme
Court building. Moore, a principled man whose judicial temperament is guided
and molded by his belief that there is a God and He is watching, is not
motivated by what may happen to his career as a judge.
Strange isn't it that the Moore's Rock had to be brought into the
building in the dead of night and not in the light of day. What kind
of princiles does that indicate?
Most Americans have no idea of the gravity of the drama unfolding at the
Supreme Court building in Montgomery. Jaded and numbed by fifty years of
abuse by an out-of-control judiciary that usurps the will of the people and
their elected representatives by making law from the bench, it seems we no
longer have any collective memory of what our precious founding documents
say, let alone what they mean.
In Alabama that is code for desegregation.
Just what is it that engenders such hatred by liberals toward The Ten
Commandments?
Now how, exactly, does the Left manifest this hatred for the TC? Do
they wear hoods and lynch Christians in the night? Do they fire bomb
churches and kill little girls? Do they set dogs on Christian
marchers? Do they disperse Christian protesters with fire hoses? How
many Christians have the Left killed in the past 50 years?
Strange how the Christian Religious Reich cries crocodile tears of
martrydom at the same time celibrating the growth of their churches.
JohnN
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| User: "Dave" |
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19 Jun 2005 03:01:01 AM |
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Dana wrote:
Why The Left Hates The Ten Commandments
By Doug Patton (08/27/03)
[...]
So why dredge up an irrelevant old article and post it to five
newsgroups?
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| User: "fred" |
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20 Jun 2005 07:37:55 PM |
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I'm not convinced that people hate the 10 Commandments per se. I think
that what people really hate are the "morality police" who try to force
their religious beliefs on others.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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20 Jun 2005 11:39:14 PM |
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On 20 Jun 2005 12:37:55 -0700, "fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not convinced that people hate the 10 Commandments per se. I think
that what people really hate are the "morality police" who try to force
their religious beliefs on others.
Bingo!
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