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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "words of truth"
Date: 21 Nov 2005 05:31:26 AM
Object: Why The World Wants Believers To Shut Up
Why the world wants believers to shut up - and why we mustn't
The blessing of upright men exalts a town,
But by the mouth of wicked men it is torn down
(Proverbs 11:11, my translation)
The interpretive key to understanding many of the Proverbs from 10:1
and on is in knowing the nature of Hebrew poetry, which does not tend
to rhyme sounds as much as thoughts. That "rhyming" can be synonymous,
or it can advance or complete the thought, or it can be contrastive. In
this case, the "but" clues us that it is contrastive. Solomon is giving
us two contrasting pictures.
That will help us understand each line. "The blessing of upright men,"
itself, could mean the blessing they receive, the blessing that they
themselves are, or the blessing that they speak. Any of these could be
true, if the line stood by itself.
But the second line is not so ambiguous: "by the mouth of wicked men
[the town] is torn down." That clearly indicates what they speak,
write, communicate. As it is a contrast to the first line, then, we
understand that "the blessing of upright men" is what they say, write,
communicate. Upright men exalt a town by the blessing communicated in
what they say; wicked men tear it down by what they say.
Seen this way, the verse has many echoes in Proverbs and elsewhere. In
Proverbs 10:11, we read that "The mouth of the righteous is a fountain
of life, but the mouth of the wicked conceals violence." Again, in
Proverbs 13:14a, "The teaching of the wise is a fountain of life." By
contrast, "With his mouth the godless man would destroy his neighbor"
(Proverbs 11:9).
The Bible is very clear on the power that resides in the tongue, seen
as the organ of communication. "Death and life are in the power of the
tongue, we are told (Proverbs 18:21a). I don't think anyone has ever
crystallized the matter as forcefully as James did, in the third
chapter of his letter:
3 If we put bits into the mouths of horses so that they obey us, we
guide their whole bodies as well. 4 Look at the ships also: though they
are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are guided by a very
small rudder wherever the will of the pilot directs. 5 So also the
tongue is a small member, yet it boasts of great things. How great a
forest is set ablaze by such a small fire! 6 And the tongue is a fire,
a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members,
staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course of life, and
set on fire by hell. 7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and
sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by mankind, 8 but no
human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly
poison. 9 With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse
people who are made in the likeness of God. 10 From the same mouth come
blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.
(Cf. James 3:1-11)
What does any of that have to do with Christians shutting up?
Since "evangelicals" (whatever that means, anymore) and generally the
religious had such an impact in the last election - thank God! -
there has been an uptick in the noise on the role of "the religious" in
society. Some well-known Christian leaders have advocated that
Christians not be politically involved, but focus instead on
evangelism. Others clearly advocate a Christian presence in the affairs
of state.
Now, let me say first and clearly that the very best thing a Christian
can do for the health of his nation is to grow in godliness, and to
disciple others to Christ for all he's worth. I know that without a
doubt, because that is a natural outgrowth of what Jesus singles out as
the two greatest commandments: love God with everything we've got
(which necessarily will mean growing in godliness), and love our
neighboras as ourselves (which necessarily will mean pointing those who
do not know Him to the Lord Jesus; Matthew 22:36-40).
But by this same token, this will also necessarily mean Christian
involvement in politics.
Why? Because God isn't segregated. Because He has something to say
about every area of life. Because, if we love Him, we will keep His
commandments, which necessarily means learning to think His thoughts
after Him in every area.
What is politics about? Is it not about justice, personal wealth,
freedoms, responsibilities, values? Is it not about the poor, the sick,
the weak? Is it not about life and death issues?
Does God have something to say about personal wealth? Does God have
something to say about justice, the poor, life and death? I've read the
Bible a few times, and I'd have to say... Duh! He has a great deal to
say about all those issues.
So what is the Christian to do? Is he to clutch those truths to his
breast, and let his country go to Hell? Is that love for his neighbor?
"But," one will say, "promoting values alone without Christ is mere
civil religion, it is works-righteousness!"
And here's the problem: that facile bifurcation. Why is it an
either-or? When we preserve a Christian framework, are we not building
the sort of society that will afford us the greatest opportunities for
preaching Christ? Besides, who is advocating anything like "Repeal Row
v. Wade, and you will go to Heaven!"?
Here is the bottom-line. Our lost peers do not know what to think of
life. They do not know what to make of values. They don't know where
riches fit in, or how to care for the poor. Worse still, they do not
know that they do not know.
But God does know, and He has spoken. Some listen to Him, most don't.
Do those who by His sovereign grace alone have indeed heard Him bear
any responsibility to their still-lost neighbors? When their neighbors
cry, "What do we do about the unborn?", do we respond, "Well, I know,
but I won't tell you. Instead, let me share the Four Spiritual Laws.
Meanwhile, vote however you want on that one"? Is that loyal to God? Is
it loving to our nature?
Now, the wicked are set on destroying their city. They may mean it
consciously, they may not; it does not matter. God knows, and He has
spoken. Their path seems right to them, but it leads to death and
destruction (Proverbs 14:12; 16:25). It is ours to stand athwart that
path and say, "Stop! Go this way instead!"
Hating and not understanding Christians, and seeing in us only that we
stand between them and their (ultimately ruinous) desires, they will
tell us to shut up. They will tell us to go back to church, and leave
the steering of society to them. Hitler said this, and many German
pastors acquiesced. Liberals said this at the start of the 20th
century, and great sections of the American church acquiesced... and we
are living in the backwash of that miscalculation today.
Told to shut up, we must respond, "Thanks for the suggestion, but no."
We have the Constitutionally guaranteed right to speak up and be
involved (First Amendment), and we have a responsibility from God to do
so.
Rescue those who are being taken away to death; hold back those who are
stumbling to the slaughter. 12 If you say, "Behold, we did not know
this," does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who
keeps watch over your soul know it, and will he not repay man according
to his work?
(Proverbs 24:11-12)
http://bibchr.blogspot.com/2004/11/why-world-wants-believers-to-shut-up.html
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User: "Goodness Godless"

Title: Re: Why The World Wants Believers To Shut Up 21 Nov 2005 05:17:02 PM
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth@hoshmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132551086.020866.222010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Why the world wants believers to shut up - and why we mustn't

Because you talk too much and never create anything useful!
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User: "Josef Balluch"

Title: Re: Why The World Wants Believers To Shut Up 21 Nov 2005 03:56:00 PM
In a message sent 'round the world, words of truth poured fuel on the
fire with the following:

Why the world wants believers to shut up ...

Because knowledge never enters via an open mouth.
....

The blessing of upright men exalts a town,
But by the mouth of wicked men it is torn down
(Proverbs 11:11, my translation)

The simple believeth every word.
-- Proverbs 14:15
Regards,
Josef
As empty vessels make the loudest sound, so they that have the least
wit are the greatest babblers.
-- Plato
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User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: Why The World Wants Believers To Shut Up 21 Nov 2005 09:56:35 AM
In article <1132551086.020866.222010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth@hoshmail.com> wrote:

Why the world wants believers to shut up

Because they've been providing a steady background noise of yammering
and whining for FOUR THOUSAND FUCKING YEARS and we're sick to death of
it.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
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User: "Richo"

Title: Re: Why The World Wants Believers To Shut Up 21 Nov 2005 10:58:25 AM
words of truth wrote:

Why the world wants believers to shut up

Because you are tedious, irritating and dull in the extreme?
Mark.
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Why The World Wants Believers To Shut Up 21 Nov 2005 04:15:01 PM
In <1132570705.704530.111830@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Richo"
<m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote:


words of truth wrote:

Why the world wants believers to shut up


Because you are tedious, irritating and dull in the extreme?

Because they keep blowing things up?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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