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Date: 11 Nov 2005 04:53:40 AM
Object: Why There is no God - 361- 400
Why There is no God - 361- 400
This is the thirtieth in an occasional series highlighting valid issues
that undermine invariably unsupported claims that there's a god.
Parts 1-5 of this series is at: http://tinyurl.com/6uhnl
Part 6 at: http://tinyurl.com/3ms66
Parts 7-11 at: http://tinyurl.com/5yhjn
Part 12 at: http://tinyurl.com/5ndow
Parts 13-15 at: http://tinyurl.com/65x6g
Parts 16-25 at: http://tinyurl.com/3jmrq
Parts 26-42 at: http://tinyurl.com/4569y
Parts 43-50 at: http://tinyurl.com/6hkax
Parts 51-55 at: http://tinyurl.com/48abq
Parts 56-65 at: http://tinyurl.com/4a95v
Parts 66-70 at: http://tinyurl.com/3jyxg
Parts 70-78 at: http://tinyurl.com/3jyxg
Parts 79-90 at: http://tinyurl.com/6aa8l
Parts 91-99 at: http://tinyurl.com/6xnhh
Parts 100-119 at: http://tinyurl.com/9fcsw
Parts 120-139 at: http://tinyurl.com/bp8za
Parts 140-155 at: http://tinyurl.com/72vlr
Parts 156-170 at: http://tinyurl.com/d3ubb
Parts 171-174 at: http://tinyurl.com/8jcja
Parts 175-189 at: http://tinyurl.com/cuvxb
Parts 190-199 at: http://tinyurl.com/9uo6f
Parts 200-219 at: http://tinyurl.com/8tsrg
Parts 220-235 at: http://tinyurl.com/a9rc2
Parts 236-245 at: http://tinyurl.com/b9of7
Parts 246-254 at: http://tinyurl.com/cz9yq
Parts 255-280 at: http://tinyurl.com/aze8x
Parts 281-299 at: http://tinyurl.com/7dn3s
Parts 300-325 at: http://tinyurl.com/bj4mu
Parts 326-360 at: http://tinyurl.com/8unme
361.
Here's why there's no god. Whenever science gets there, the god in
question has backed away further into the darkness of ignorance instead
of coming out of the closet. Does a good and decent god hide in the
shadows?
If history has shown anything, it has shown that whenever science has
been able to investigate a religious claim of some supernatural
occurrence and the truth discovered, the truth has never been that "god
did it" - there has always been a perfectly comprehensible, simple, and
natural (as opposed to supernatural) explanation. Where is the
rationale for arguing that it will *ever* be any different?
362.
http://tinyurl.com/7zcqv
(You have to go see this picture of the spider with its big black eyes.
It looks sooo cute!)
Ahem! Anyway, the URL reveals the charming story of Evarcha
culicivora, a vampire spider (a salticid - jumping spider no less!)
from the Lake Victoria region in Africa.
"Lab experiments conducted near Lake Victoria showed the spider
preferred female mosquitoes fed with human blood over all other prey,
including male mosquitoes, which don't feed on animal blood."
The spider doesn't get blood directly from humans, it has it delivered!
It's rather like we don't get milk directly from cows (for the
majority of us westerners at least), but go get it at the store.
So the question here is, did a god design this spider from scratch?
Because if it did, then it also had to design the mosquito beforehand,
since this is an irreducibly complex system to put it in "intelligent
Designer" terms, isn't it? The spider couldn't survive without the
mosquito to bring it liquid lunch.
Why would an intelligent designer - a loving god, no less, who loved us
*soooo* much that he found the courage to tell someone else to go die
for us - design a system that ultimately involves hurting humans?
In fact, this situation is doubly parasitical, because the species of
mosquito in question, A. gambiae is the principle vector of the malaria
parasite, which afflicts *half a billion* people, killing a million of
them every year (and fundies whine about abortion????).
Did a loving god *design* that?
Or did E. culicivora evolve from those two spider "kind" on the ark?
If it did, it's an example of macroevolution. If it didn't, it's an
example of why there isn't a god. Your choice....
And what about that mosquito?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4370960.stm
Did this god add gene SPRN6 to the mosquito's genome so that it could
protect itself from the parasite, and then deny us that same gene?
Or is there no god?
363.
Now don't look at this if you're about to eat lunch, but
http://tinyurl.com/aucfb
shows a python which decided to have an alligator to lunch and it
didn't end up good for either of them.
Apparently what happened was that the python tried to swallow the gator
whole, live, and the gator strenuously objected, tearing the python
open from the inside with its rear claws. Then apparently the gator
suffocated.
Did a god really design this? I want to know. I want an answer.
I want to know how a purportedly loving god could:
A. Design a creature that swallows other creatures alive in the first
place. Is this supposed to show us his compassion? His morality?
What?
B. Design a creature which stupidly sets its sights on something as
feisty as a moderately large gator.
C. Have the creature be so ineffective in its dietary etiquette that
the gator literally rips the creature open. Is this supposed to show
intelligent design?
Or does it show a world that got here by evolution and not by any god
doing anything?
364.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/25/brothers.killed.ap/index.html
A man who was driving to his brother's funeral died in a car accident.
His brother had been killed in a 4-wheeler accident the week before.
Now is there really a god?
365.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4371552.stm
reveals that "Women who have an epidural to ease the pain of childbirth
are more likely to need medical help to have their baby, scientists
say."
So is this the choice? Either a woman who is having a baby has to
endure the pain, or have the pain eased, but have difficulty bringing
the child into the world? How do the anti-abortion crowd feel about
*that* one?
Why would an intelligent designer - a loving god, no less, who loved us
*soooo* much that he found the courage to tell someone else to go die
for us - design a system that ultimately involves hurting humans?
Or is it that there is no god, and that "Just So" story in Genesis has
nothing to do with the action of any god but with the stupidity and
insensitivity of ignorant men writing assinine fables?
366.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4359898.stm
"It is known that female foetuses tend to be more robust, and able to
survive in harsh conditions. Boy foetuses are more likely to perish in
the womb or suffer obstetric complications. "
Why is it, given that this god supposedly cursed all women for the
ignorance of one, that the male children have the worst time? And how
do the anti-abortionists feel about *that* one?
Why would an intelligent designer - a loving god, no less, who loved us
*soooo* much that he found the courage to tell someone else to go die
for us - design a system that ultimately involves hurting humans?
Or is it that there is no god?
367.
What is it Genesis says? That women are second best, made not even
from dirt, but second hand from a rib? That women are essentially a
clone of Adam? That they're punished for their sins by being the
weaker sex?
Well this is one more area where the Bible lies, and science has shown
it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4355355.stm
"They found that female mammals, who possess two copies of the X
chromosome, express more genes than males, who only have one X and a Y
chromosome. They also said that females were protected from many
diseases because of their double dose of the X chromosome."
Another reason why there is no god. Unless, of course, you want to
believe in a god who is a liar.
368.
One of the most tedious relics in the bowels of the creationist
movement (yes, it's definitely a bowel movement) is how could the eye
evolve? Well that's been demonstrated seven ways from sundown, but the
creationists never put the shoe on the other foot and ask themselves
how could an omnipotent, omniscient perfect god, who had all eternity
to work in, and infinite resources at his disposal, make such a pig's
ear of his design?
The eye is a "perfect" example. It's built backwards and not up to the
job, to which eyeglass and contact lens sales effortlessly attest, and
worse than that, it is so poorly designed that even one mutant gene can
screw it up:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4336731.stm
Is there a god? Well there's either an appallingly shoddy and
incompetent one, or no, there isn't one. Which do you think it is?
369.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4378624.stm
reveals that we have some ten million single-nucleotide polymorphisms
in our genome! If Earth is only 6,000 years old, as the genealogy in
the New Testament book of "Luke" maintains, and we all of us started
out from one genome (Eve was a clone of Adam) that means that the
genome had to have, in the human population, **FIVE MUTATIONS PER DAY
EVERY DAY EVERY YEAR FOR SIX THOUSAND YEARS** and for the genome to be
passed on to offspring.
This is an unsustainable rate (ask any creationist - they maintain that
mutations at a far lower rate than this would kill off living things,
which is why, they claim, evolution is a lie!).
Therefore Earth cannot be just 6,000 years old. But the Bible insists
that it is! What shall we do? Ditch the Bible, and ditch the fake god
who insists (so his PR crew tell us) that it's all true!
370.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4245852.stm
reveals that: "...by sharing sexual partners, the greater horseshoe bat
"strengthens social ties and promotes greater levels of cooperation
within the colony"
So where is the basis for theist objections to a sexually liberated
society? It's not AIDS, since they've been down on such a lifestyle
long, long before AIDS reared its ugly head. Nope, it has to be rooted
deep within their unnatural addiction to this god-myth.
But what of this god? Does this god want us to share sexual partners?
If not, why did he ever make *anything* in nature that wasn't strictly
monogamous as a divine lesson to us all?
Is it because there is no god?
371.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4163282.stm
reveals that human ancestors coming out of Africa carried TB with them.
So either this god created us with TB already in situ, or there is no
god.
372.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4282654.stm
reveals that sea-sponges may harbor compounds which can fight cancer.
The question is, why are these compounds in sponges rather than in
humans where they could be fighting cancer?
There's no god, that's why.
373.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4285878.stm
reveals that "More work is needed urgently to prevent potentially fatal
releases of gas from two lakes in Cameroon, scientists say. Lakes Nyos
and Monoun contain high concentrations of dissolved carbon dioxide. In
the 1980s, thousands died when the gas was suddenly released."
Does this reveal a loving god who designed this planet specifically for
us, or does this reveal an incompetent god? Or even a non-existent
god? I know where the smart money is.
374.
http://cdnn.info/news/eco/e050925.html
reveals that "...scientists now believe the males had either
accidentally inseminated themselves during "violent" lovemaking
sessions with females or been inseminated by other males after
"bumping" into them in the dark depths of the ocean."
Does this reveal the competent, expert and perfect work of a designer
god, or undirected evolution? Unless you want to believe in an oaf of
a god, the only intelligently designed answer is: "There is no god".
375.
So god designed the Universe, placed the earth in it, placed a garden
on Earth, and placed a couple in the garden, surrounded by everything
they would need for a happy, healthy, diverse and fulfilled life.
No!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4306906.stm
reveals that the potato wasn't distributed around the Earth by this
god. Instead, it had to be hand-carried to Europe from the
inaccessible Andes since that's the only place god saw fit to grow it.
Either that or there is no god.
376.
While on the topic of nutrition, didn't this god say, in genesis 1, "I
have given every green herb for meat"? I guess he lied:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4326666.stm
Children are starving because this god screwed up his "intelligent"
design. But then his best-known trait is sacrificing children.
Or you can believe the truth instead: there is no such barbaric god.
377.
http://www.circumcisioninfo.com/reuters3.htm
reveals a study that seems to show that circumcised men have a lower
risk of contracting HIV infection. The jury is still out, but if this
is true, I can see a lot of god-fodder claiming this proves the Bible
is authentic because it recommends such a barbaric procedure
(http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6898403/).
Of course, the way not to get infected is not to have a circumcision,
but to wear a condom or not have sex in the first place. Duhh. But
the fundies are, as usual, missing the big picture. If circumcision
does reduce risk of such venereal diseases, why did this "intelligent"
designer create us with a foreskin in the first place?
Or is it that we're evolved and not created and no god designed diddly?
On the other hand, http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/HIV/vanhowe4/
reveals the opposite.
I guess this god didn't know what he was doing.
378.
God so loved the world that he: put a powerful antibiotic into a fungus
instead of into us. Fortunately scientists are on to him:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4333654.stm
Or maybe there is no him, and things are just naturally the way they
are.
379.
In the same vein (or is it artery?):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4334908.stm
reveals that "A protein responsible for fleas' astonishing jumping
power could be harnessed to repair damaged arteries. Scientists have
taken the gene that produces resilin and used it to create a
super-strong rubbery polymer with potential use in surgery."
Why is it that human scientists had to find out this for themselves?
The Bible couldn't have revealed it? Why is it, if we had a perfect
designer, that he didn't include such an invaluable protein in our own
biochemistry?
Is it because there isn't a god and all we have is evolution and the
hard work of scientists?
380.
Over 73,000 confirmed dead:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/02/soasia.quake.aid.ap/index.html
Where was god?
The awful Earthquake in Pakistan which is already slipping rapidly away
from everyone's consciousness even though the desperate need for help
continues. Before that it was New Orleans which slipped away. The
crises go on, but god is nowhere to be found.
One girl didn't die. Believers would term this a miracle, but did this
girl magically get protected by a wall of warm light so that the
building didn't fall on her? *That* would have been a miracle.
Nope, she didn't get that. This 18 month old infant was pulled alive
from under a rubble-covered door six days after the earthquake. A
five-year-old was also discovered in similar circumstances (either that
or it was the same child and someone screwed up on the age).
Where was god during this time? I don't want to hear that he was with
her, I want to hear why she wasn't with her parents. I want to hear
why the hand of this god didn't come down from Heaven and point her
out. i want to know why a loving god saw fit to let an eighteen-month
old child be trapped for **SIX LONG DAYS**.
Or I want to hear an admission that there can be no such god - no
loving god who would, even in his most depraved and vindictive spasms,
even begin to countenance treating a child this way.
381.
And on the topic of children, I want to know why this same loving god
allows this to happen to children:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_west/4335454.stm
Now if there were a miracle cure in the offing, a reward for their
incomparable buoyancy under this vicious weight, it would still be a
sick, sick, sick thing to countenance, but since there never ever is
such a reward, we're left with a god who could prevent this torture
yet allows it to go on.
You can believe that, or you can believe smarter than that and abandon
this assinine myth of a god.
382.
And what about a god who not only lets children be stressed for no
reason whatsoever, but later *punishes* them for enduring that stress
by letting it contribute to memory loss in middle age that's usually
encountered in much older people:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4327992.stm
Why stress and mess with people's memories in the first place? Does
trashing our memories somehow contribute to our faithfulness to this
god, or does it remove bad memories of the things this god could have
done but routinely fails to do? Does forgetting, in old age, the names
and even faces of your children contribute to family values in some
bizarre, ironical fashion? I doubt it.
Isn't it far more likely that there is no god?
383.
And speaking of family values, "Rotavirus infections cause more than
unpleasant diarrhea and vomiting in children. They can seriously erode
the mental and economic health of the child's family and caregivers,
reported epidemiologists here."
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pediatrics/GeneralPediatrics/tb/1913
Now these are the viruses that idiotic creationists claim were designed
for our benefit by a perfect, flawless, omnipotent, omniscient, loving,
longsuffering god. Uh-uh. Yeah. Right. The only ones doing the
longsuffering are humans in this equation.
Was this god so incompetent that he couldn't create without viruses?
Or having inexplicably trapped himself into the need for viruses
couldn't design safe ones? Or having failed to design safe ones
couldn't rig humans to be impervious to them?
Or is it much more likely that there can be no such god?
384.
And while we're on the topic of a designer, what about this
catastrophe:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4341204.stm
The plesiosaur eats seafood, but it was designed as an air-breather.
The plesiosaur eats bottom-dwelling shellfish, but was designed to
float way up above the seabed.
This necessitated designing a massively long neck to reach the sea
bottom.
Unfortunately, when the plesiosaur swallows the shellfish, it doesn't
have the "design" to eat them, which necessitates swallowing large
pebbles to crush the shellfish.
This was deliberately designed by a omnipotent, omniscient
perfectionist who had all eternity to work in a infinite resources at
his command?
No!
385.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth
discuss the evidence that the Earth was at one time (interestingly,
immediately prior to the so-called Cambrian "explosion" of life)
entirely covered in ice.
I find it interesting that the Bible doesn't say diddly about the Earth
being entirely covered in ice. It isn't mentioned in the six-day
creation, and it isn't mentioned throughout the entire history of
humanity as portrayed in the Bible.
This means the Bible lies - about the Cryogenian period in Earth's
history, and about the god who supposedly created it.
386.
Fossil reef disproves young Earth:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/10/12/vermont.reef.ap/index.html
The thickest coral reef that we know of is the Eniwetok atoll in the
Marshal Islands. It's estimated (based on coral growth rates) that
this reef took 130,000 years to reach its present state.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/dave_matson/young-earth/specific_arguments/coral_reef.html
Even if this estimate is wrong, and the growth took only one tenth of
that, that's still 13,000 years - far longer than the Bible says there
has been a universe. Moreover, this reef grows on top of a volcano,
which had to form, build up its cone and become extinct in the first
place before coral could colonize it. This alone disproves Bible
claims.
But the reef mentioned in the first URL above is a *fossil* reef. In
other words, this reef had to grow to begin with - for however long
that took, then fossilize for however long that took.
There is no way this tedious process could have taken place inside the
Biblical chronology.
The Bible is supposedly inspired by a god. So either this god lied, or
the scribes were so stupid that we cannot rely on anything they wrote,
or the Bible isn't the word of any god. Which is it?
387.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/10/18/tissue.regeneration/index.html
reveals scientists aim to learn how to regrow limbs.
But if there is a god, why would scientists have to do this? Why
didn't the designer do it for us? "Scientists in England are exploring
ways for humans to regrow missing limbs and prevent scarring after
surgery by researching frogs and salamanders. Both sets of amphibians
have a set of genes that enable them to recreate their own severed
limbs."
Why didn't the "intelligent" designer" give us such genes?
Or is it that there was no intelligence, no design, just nature?
388.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/29/neighborhood.rampage.ap/index.html
"A 19-year-old in a black cape and a paintball mask went on a shooting
rampage Saturday in his upscale Southern California neighborhood,
killing a man and his daughter before committing suicide, authorities
said...Freund left his home about 9 a.m. and drove less than 100 yards
to a house where he killed Vernon Smith, 45, and daughter Christina
Smith, 22, with a shotgun, Amormino said. A 20-year-old son escaped
after hearing shots....The Smith house was known for its holiday
decorations, including multiple Christmas trees put up each season and
a snow village in the bay window."
So was the 20 year old the chosen one, or was it his sister and father?
Did a god call these two people home, or did a god leave them to rot?
If there is a god, why didn't he stop this horror? Is it truly the
best way to be "called home" to be terrorised and shot? Isn't the
creator of the universe capable of anything more magical than this?
Or is there simply no god and these random acts of violence are just
that?
389.
Wasn't that last one bad enough? No - this one is worse in many
regards:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/31/evacuees.killing/index.html
"A Texas woman was allegedly robbed and killed by three hurricane
evacuees she befriended after meeting them at her church, according to
Pasadena, Texas, police. Betty Blair, 77, was strangled to death
inside her Pasadena home Friday and her bound body was discovered by
her daughter Friday evening, said Pasadena Police spokesman Vance
Mitchell."
Where was god? Nowhere is the only explanation that makes any sense.
390.
Convinced yet? Try this one:
cnn.com/2005/US/10/31/pastor.electrocuted.ap/index.html
"A pastor performing a baptism was electrocuted inside his church
Sunday morning when he adjusted a nearby microphone while standing in
water, a church employee said. The Rev. Kyle Lake, 33, was stepping
into the baptistery as he reached out for the microphone, which
produced an electric shock, said University Baptist Church community
pastor Ben Dudley."
Here is a man doing god's work - bringing people to Jesus, and yet his
god could neither educate him about the dangers of having electrical
appliances near water, nor prevent him from electrocuting himself, nor
resurrect him after the fact.
If this doesn't prove there is no god, what will it take?
391.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/10/28/science.debate.reut/index.html
discusses the increasing animosity between the supporters of the
totally unfounded faith in creation or so-called intelligent so-called
design, and the established science of evolution.
This is an area that should directly concern any creator god - it
impinges on his territory and it's causing untold harm among the
faithful and unfaithful alike.
Why doesn't some god step in and clear the air?
Is it because there are no gods to step in? Or is it that they don't
care? And if there isn't any god, or if they don't care, why are the
faithful making such a big deal out of it? Is it because they prayed
for a solution and their prayers went unanswered?
392.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4983325
reveals the contaminated water in El Salvador.
The well of the village of Milagro a Dios is contaminated. Not by
humans, but by an Earthquake:
"Four years ago, Elisabeth nearly died. Her mother, Teresa de Jesus
Aleman, says the problem was water from a shallow well. Teresa says it
used to produce clean water. But things changed after a massive
earthquake in 2001. 'The water was ruined. All the water was ruined,'
she says. 'The water came out of the wells, some overflowed. It was all
ruined because the water was contaminated.' The family couldn't afford
bottled water. So they kept using the well. Teresa says lots of people
got sick, including Elisabeth and another daughter. 'They got very
sick,' she recalls. 'She was diagnosed with four classes of parasites,
and the other girl, too, and supposedly it's because of what we drink.
El Salvador isn't a place where you'd expect to find water problems.
After all, it gets nearly six feet of rainfall each year. But Ricardo
Navarro says clean water is in short supply. Contaminated water kills
thousands of Salvadorans every year. Most are children."
So in a nation called "The savior", in a village called "miracle of
god" the only water supply is contaminated.
Quite clearly there is no god. Or he has a truly evil sense of humor.
393.
http://www.wftv.com/news/5232426/detail.html
"Valerie Carey, 29, has been sentenced to life in prison for the
child's death at a downtown Atlanta motel last year. She's agreed to
testify against her husband as part of a plea bargain. Investigators
said Christopher Carey stabbed the child with a knife until it broke.
Police found 8-year-old Quimani Carey on the floor of a extended stay
motel room after finding the couple walking naked down a busy street in
freezing temperatures. They were carrying their two other children.
Quimani's arms had been broken, she had been strangled and she had
been stabbed several times, prosecutors said. Authorities said pages
from the Bible had been torn out and thrown on the girl's body.
Testimony indicated that the girl's father believed she was demonic and
had been implanted with a chip that sent signals to the planet Jupiter,
which would allow the family to be tracked."
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
That's what god said - and these people acted on it. When Charles
Manson whipped his followers into a murderous frenzy and people died,
he was held accountable. Isn't it time to hold your god accountable?
Or is it time to admit there can be no loving god who could permit
these things to happen?
394.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4399792.stm
reveals that as the planet heats up, organisms are having a hard time
keeping up: "Caterpillars are the staple food for infant great tits;
and as the emergence of caterpillars in the European Spring is getting
earlier, so, logically, should the time at which great tits lay their
eggs.
"In fact, one population that has been extensively studied, at
Wytham Wood in the UK, has brought its egg laying forward, but by too
much. By contrast, another population at Hoge Veluwe, in the
Netherlands, is laying at the same time as in previous years."
This is why there are mass extinctions. Evolution cannot keep up with
fast, dramatic change
In other words, the design has failed. Evolution science has no
problem understanding this, but intelligent design faith cannot account
for the mismatch. Either the birds were not designed intelligently, or
they were not designed at all. How could there be an omniscient,
perfect god who could be so inept at designing nature?
395.
It's like something out of a cheesy 'B' horror movie! Vampire bats
killing people?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4398660.stm
"Health authorities in northern Brazil are trying to cope with a wave
of attacks on humans by vampire bats infected with the deadly rabies
virus. Rabies caused by bat bites has killed 23 people in the last two
months. It is not the first wave of attacks by vampire bats in the
Amazon, but Brazilian authorities say this latest outbreak is unusually
serious.
Some experts are blaming deforestation in the Amazon region for this
latest wave of attacks. Sixteen people died of rabies after being
bitten by bats in an area of marshlands in the northern state of
Maranhao. Seven more died in another part of the state. Health
authorities say they have treated more than 1,300 people for rabies
after being attacked by vampire bats, almost always at night in their
houses."
So believers have to support this. God is good. God created
everything from nothing and saw that it was good. God created vampire
bats. God created the rabies virus. Why?
According to: http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic1974.htm
"Rabies is a viral infection of the central and peripheral nervous
systems that causes encephalitis with or without paralysis. It is
virtually uniformly fatal...Bat (avian) rabies appears to be widespread
in the 49 continental states. Bat rabies has been implicated in most
human rabies cases acquired domestically in the United States during
the last 20 years."
Why would a god create something like this, much less then create a
blood-sucking bat which can spread it?
Or is it that there is no god - couldn't possibly be a loving god of
this nature?
396.
Geckos have better eyesight than humans do:
http://sciencenews.org/articles/20041127/fob8.asp
Why is this? Evolutionists have no problem with it, but creationists
have to ask themselves why a god would create a "lowly lizard" which is
better equipped than the supposed pinnacle of creation: Humanity.
Or is it that there is no god and we see precisely what evolution came
up with and not what ancient and scientifically ignorant scribes
claimed a mythical god created?
397.
So Elaine Oneto loses her house in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, and
then her son in Iraq just two months later:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/06/katrina.soldier.ap/index.html
Where was god?
If Americans are doing such sterling work in Iraq, why isn't their god
helping them? Does this god love to destroy people's homes and see
their sons die in battle? According to the Bible, he does. Or it
could just be that there is no god and ***** happens.
398.
"I know in my heart that God exists!"
This is actually used as an argument for the existence of god. But
it's the most idiotic argument there ever was. They don't know diddly
in their heart. What they *think* they know is in their brain. But
their brain is completely cut off from reality. It has only five
conduits to the outside, and all of them are so badly "designed" that
they will mislead their owner at every opportunity (more on this in the
next thread in this series).
The brain itself is nothing more than a wet analog computer, which
breaks down with - shall I say heart-rending? - frequency. This is why
"the majority of Americans will, at some point in their lifetime, meet
the diagnostic criteria for one or more mental disorders."
(http://www.coolnurse.com/mental_healthusa.htm). Some "design", huh?
So "I know in my heart that God exists!" really means "I am under the
delusion that there is a god". Since there are frequently people who
use this delusion to perpetrate all kinds of evil, then the delusion is
hardly valid evidence for a god. If the brain worked infallibly, if we
all had the *same* view of god, if there were other, independent,
testable evidence supporting this view, then it would be valid, but as
it happens, the fact that this delusion is so widespread and so inanely
diverse is really just another reason why there is no god.
399.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4412732.stm
reveals that scientists "...have found that the parasites, called
helminths, could fool the body's immune system so that they were not
attacked...Scientists in the United States discovered last year that
helminths, such as roundworms and threadworms, may prevent the
inflammatory bowel disorder Crohn's disease."
So on the one hand we learn that helminths are *designed* to bypass the
body's own immune system and do their parasitical work, and on the
other that they can possibly prevent a bowel disorder. And this was
deliberately designed by a loving god?
No, it wasn't.
400.
So what do we have to wind this one up with? Isn't it just what men
wanted to hear on a Monday morning: hormones make women safer drivers?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4406176.stm
"The female hormone oestrogen could give women the edge when it comes
to tasks such as safe driving, say researchers. Tests showed attention
span and ability to learn rules were far better among women than men. "
Tell us something we don't know, you say?
Well you're right - that's nothing new until we juxtapose it with
something else in the news on the previous Friday:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4404682.stm
"The brain structure of people with autism is an 'exaggeration' of the
normal male brain, researchers suggest."
So let's think about this. God made men first, and women as a much
belated afterthought. Just what *was* Adam supposed to do by himself
in Eden, BTW? Twiddle his green thumbs? Or something? Talk to the
animals? I mean gardening may have been a full time job, but given
that the garden was perfectly designed, there can't have been much to
do, now, can there?
Yet this god made Adam the most aggressive species he ever created.
This was the pinnacle of his creation - the lord and master of all he
surveyed. He was supposed to have dominion over the Earth and
everything in it. There were no other humans. So why was man made to
be so aggressive?
And if Eve was created from nothing more than a rib bone, then how come
she got to be so sweet? How come she didn't have to worry about that
extreme male brain? How come she got to have "oestrogen" to enable her
to learn better? Is the joke true that when god made man she was only
practicing, and her perfection was Eve?
Or is it that there is no god and what we have is a species of animal
that got too smart for itself?
Budikka
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 11 Nov 2005 12:06:30 PM
On 11 Nov 2005 02:53:40 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Why There is no God - 361- 400

There is. ALL evidence points to God's existence. Ther is no evidence that God
does not exist.
Better luck next time, bud the dud.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!"

Title: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 11 Nov 2005 04:25:07 PM
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On 11 Nov 2005 02:53:40 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Why There is no God - 361- 400


There is. ALL evidence points to God's existence. Ther is no evidence

that God

does not exist.

Better luck next time, bud the dud.

duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of being stupid."
Pope Paul VI
*****

ok stupid-where is this proof?
--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.
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User: "Bill"

Title: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 11 Nov 2005 06:03:04 PM
"I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote in message
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On 11 Nov 2005 02:53:40 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:

Why There is no God - 361- 400


There is. ALL evidence points to God's existence. Ther is no evidence

that God

does not exist.

You have made this claim before. What is your objective verifiable
evidence???
You never seen able to supply it.

Better luck next time, bud the dud.

duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of being stupid."
Pope Paul VI
*****


ok stupid-where is this proof?
--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.


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User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 12 Nov 2005 07:45:06 AM
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On 11 Nov 2005 02:53:40 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:

Why There is no God - 361- 400


There is. ALL evidence points to God's existence. Ther is no evidence

that God

does not exist.


You have made this claim before. What is your objective verifiable
evidence???

You never seen able to supply it.

Better luck next time, bud the dud.

duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of being stupid."
Pope Paul VI
*****


ok stupid-where is this proof?
--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.

Sunrises, baby smiles, a nice cup of coffee, it's all proof!
Really!
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 12 Nov 2005 07:54:06 AM
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:03:04 -0500, "Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote:

There is. ALL evidence points to God's existence. Ther is no evidence

that God

does not exist.


You have made this claim before. What is your objective verifiable
evidence???

Start with the big bang.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 12 Nov 2005 05:50:25 AM
I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY! wrote:

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On 11 Nov 2005 02:53:40 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Why There is no God - 361- 400


There is. ALL evidence points to God's existence. Ther is no evidence

that God

does not exist.

Better luck next time, bud the dud.

duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of being stupid."
Pope Paul VI
*****


ok stupid-where is this proof?

He has none. The best he's capable of was *five* items he claimed were
evidence (http://tinyurl.com/dtkeq - Apr 18th 2004 9:52am) but which he
was forced to admit two short months alter were nothing but blind
belief (http://tinyurl.com/96k3x - Jun 12th 2004 10:52am) after the
massive pounding he got.
I used those same five items in a spoof edition of this very series
(http://tinyurl.com/bz54w). I changed a word here and there and all of
his five "evidences" miraculously became evidence for the non-existence
of a god! Naturally I didn't count them in the total of four hundred
since they were so pathetic.
But you're trying to have an exchange with a professional moron! Duck
*****'s comments aren't born of smarts, logic, rational or evidence,
they're born of desperation. His comments aren't aimed at the material
- they rarely are. He's incapable of having a rational exchange on a
topic. He spits out idiocy and runs away.
In this case, his comments are coming form nothing other than Christian
spite at me personally because I've kicked his ***** so many times it
hasn't ever recovered, he knows it, he can't do anything about it, and
this is all he has left!
Look at his abysmal performance here. In the thread marking the 400th
item supportive of why there isn't a god (not one of which any
respondee has ever even tried to rebut), he is lying that there is no
such evidence. I refuted his five items at least three times in three
different ways. He hasn't the wherewithal to even try and refute even
one of mine.
Note that he never documents or supports a single thing he says,
whereas the cowardice and lies of this pathetic hypocrite for Christ
have been fully documented on Usenet. His despicable and unchristian
behavior, and his slanderous unfounded charges (he thinks turning the
other cheek means mooning someone) are why he was mass-plonked by
pretty near the entire regular set on a.a.:
http://tinyurl.com/9gycg
It's a sign of how pathetic he is, how low he's sinking and how
desperate he's become since he was cut off, that he now has to beg for
atheists to talk to him by posting inane rants against us - this from
the guy who claims to be a christian, who claims to do unto others as
he would be done by, and who lies about turning the other cheek!
His cowardice in "debate" or even discussion is legendary:
1. http://tinyurl.com/4dyok
2. http://tinyurl.com/664yu
3. http://tinyurl.com/apenc
He claims he can run rings around anyone on scripture, but when he was
actually taken up directly on this claim:
http://tinyurl.com/3z47u
he ran away!
He has over 16 documented lies:
http://tinyurl.com/5zlzx
http://tinyurl.com/ablwm
He regularly demands people open discussions on his god, and when they
do, he runs away. I personally had him run from the *same topic* over
120 times in direct response to a challenge he made!
He dismally failed the simplest intelligence test imaginable:
http://tinyurl.com/7zm43
He has fifty questions he can't answer or daren't answer honestly:
http://tinyurl.com/ad89u
and fifty more:
http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y
In short, he's a waste of a human being.
Budikka
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 12 Nov 2005 07:57:38 AM
On 12 Nov 2005 03:50:25 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

ok stupid-where is this proof?

He has none. The best he's capable of was *five* items he claimed were
evidence (http://tinyurl.com/dtkeq - Apr 18th 2004 9:52am) but which he
was forced to admit two short months alter were nothing but blind
belief (http://tinyurl.com/96k3x - Jun 12th 2004 10:52am) after the
massive pounding he got.

Hey, dud, what are you up to now - 500 tinyurls of nothingness.

But you're trying to have an exchange with a professional moron! Duck
*****'s comments aren't born of smarts, logic, rational or evidence,
they're born of desperation. His comments aren't aimed at the material
- they rarely are. He's incapable of having a rational exchange on a
topic. He spits out idiocy and runs away.

Every wonder why no one is impressed with your 500 pieces of bs, bud the dud?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 12 Nov 2005 07:53:04 AM
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:25:07 -0500, "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!"
<NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote:

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:han9n15v0ak29ad3ov8gar51145etk2dsq@4ax.com...

On 11 Nov 2005 02:53:40 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Why There is no God - 361- 400


There is. ALL evidence points to God's existence. Ther is no evidence

that God

does not exist.

Better luck next time, bud the dud.

duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of being stupid."
Pope Paul VI
*****


ok stupid-where is this proof?

Where is the proof there is no God?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.


User: "Rapture test pilot mission"

Title: Re: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 12 Nov 2005 04:22:30 AM
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> suddenly spluttered:

ALL evidence points to God's existence.

As I already pointed out to you, the physical chemistry of water
proves that all of reality is an accident. I guess you found the LSBU
student's PhD theisis too abstruse. I didn't.
------------------------------------------------
Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: Why There is no God - 361- 400 12 Nov 2005 07:58:55 AM
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:22:30 +0000, Rapture test pilot mission
<yournamehere@martyrdom.org> wrote:

duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> suddenly spluttered:

ALL evidence points to God's existence.


As I already pointed out to you, the physical chemistry of water
proves that all of reality is an accident.

When?

I guess you found the LSBU
student's PhD theisis too abstruse. I didn't.

What is it?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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