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"Budikka666" |
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05 Aug 2007 11:08:18 PM |
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Why There's No Design #148 - Sex Makes You Smarter |
At www.scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy, the author with the curiously
=E0 propos name of "Mo" writes about transexual mice - not physically,
but in every other way - by the removal of one gene: TPRC2
http://tinyurl.com/2xxz2g
"Without the gene, female mice acted exactly like males - even towards
male mice - complete with mounting, pelvic thrusts and the ultrasound
calls that males use to attract a mate."
(There's even film at 11 - or whatever time you go to his site)
It's kinda hard for the straitjacketed religionazis who are all-too-
rife amongst us to argue that homosexuality is simply "a sinful
choice" when the loss of one single gene changes so much.
But my main thrust here, if you will, is to lay this one upon you,
from that same site:
http://tinyurl.com/2yd4zw
"Now, a new study published in Nature Neuroscience demonstrates
that pheromones from dominant male mice elicit hormonal changes in the
brains of females that stimulate neurogenesis in the olfactory bulb
and the parts of the brain encoding olfactory memories, and that the
newly-generated cells may have a role in mating behaviour.
"Although newly-generated neurons migrating into the olfactory
bulb or dentate gyrus are known to become integrated into the existing
circuitry there, the function of these new cells has until now
remained unclear.
"The new findings show that the cells generated in response to
alpha male pheromones are involved in encoding memories of the
pheromone signatures that are essential for the selection of an
appropriate mate."
So my question here is in two parts. First of all, did the so-called
intelligent so-called designer *forget* to include and program these
cells when he designed mice? Did he have to toss them in later,
rather like a security update with a Microsoft application?
Or is there just undirected and (obviously!) unplanned evolution at
(fore)play here?
The second part of the question has to do with this whole alpha male
arrangement in the first place.
Just exactly when was this "designed" and why? Was the creation so
abysmally designed to begin with that the designer had to belatedly
trick-out his creations with this Alpha-Romeo-Revs-Up-The-Chicks
package?
How does a perfect designer sin and fall short of the glory of
himself? How does a perfect creation even start to go south (unless
it's a flock of migrating birds, of course)?
This alpha business implies that the majority of males (or females
dependent upon the actual mating details) in sexually competitive
species were *designed* to be substandard - to lead miserable lives,
get no partners, lose fights, and end up being taken out to dinner not
by the daters, but by the predators.
Would a loving, beneficent god really create something like this,
where it's all about fighting, stress, tough competition, predators
taking the young, the infirm, the old, the sick, and devil take the
most hind?
Is *this* supposed to set an example, to show us the beauty of this
god's creation?
Creationists like to whine about how atheism is responsible for all
the evils of the world, but they never observe themselves in that same
looking glass, do they? If they did, they'd have to spend the rest of
their life reflecting on how badly and inequitably "designed" this
universe really is.
Unless, of course, it wasn't designed at all, in which case it's
divine!
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Bud the dud, now we know........................ Sex Makes You Smarter |
06 Aug 2007 05:27:29 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:08:18 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
......................why you're so dumb.
At www.scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy, the author with the curiously
à propos name of "Mo" writes about transexual mice - not physically,
but in every other way - by the removal of one gene: TPRC2
http://tinyurl.com/2xxz2g
"Without the gene, female mice acted exactly like males - even towards
male mice - complete with mounting, pelvic thrusts and the ultrasound
calls that males use to attract a mate."
(There's even film at 11 - or whatever time you go to his site)
It's kinda hard for the straitjacketed religionazis who are all-too-
rife amongst us to argue that homosexuality is simply "a sinful
choice" when the loss of one single gene changes so much.
But my main thrust here, if you will, is to lay this one upon you,
from that same site:
http://tinyurl.com/2yd4zw
"Now, a new study published in Nature Neuroscience demonstrates
that pheromones from dominant male mice elicit hormonal changes in the
brains of females that stimulate neurogenesis in the olfactory bulb
and the parts of the brain encoding olfactory memories, and that the
newly-generated cells may have a role in mating behaviour.
"Although newly-generated neurons migrating into the olfactory
bulb or dentate gyrus are known to become integrated into the existing
circuitry there, the function of these new cells has until now
remained unclear.
"The new findings show that the cells generated in response to
alpha male pheromones are involved in encoding memories of the
pheromone signatures that are essential for the selection of an
appropriate mate."
So my question here is in two parts. First of all, did the so-called
intelligent so-called designer *forget* to include and program these
cells when he designed mice? Did he have to toss them in later,
rather like a security update with a Microsoft application?
Or is there just undirected and (obviously!) unplanned evolution at
(fore)play here?
The second part of the question has to do with this whole alpha male
arrangement in the first place.
Just exactly when was this "designed" and why? Was the creation so
abysmally designed to begin with that the designer had to belatedly
trick-out his creations with this Alpha-Romeo-Revs-Up-The-Chicks
package?
How does a perfect designer sin and fall short of the glory of
himself? How does a perfect creation even start to go south (unless
it's a flock of migrating birds, of course)?
This alpha business implies that the majority of males (or females
dependent upon the actual mating details) in sexually competitive
species were *designed* to be substandard - to lead miserable lives,
get no partners, lose fights, and end up being taken out to dinner not
by the daters, but by the predators.
Would a loving, beneficent god really create something like this,
where it's all about fighting, stress, tough competition, predators
taking the young, the infirm, the old, the sick, and devil take the
most hind?
Is *this* supposed to set an example, to show us the beauty of this
god's creation?
Creationists like to whine about how atheism is responsible for all
the evils of the world, but they never observe themselves in that same
looking glass, do they? If they did, they'd have to spend the rest of
their life reflecting on how badly and inequitably "designed" this
universe really is.
Unless, of course, it wasn't designed at all, in which case it's
divine!
Budikka
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Cj" |
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| Title: Re: Bud the dud, now we know........................ Sex Makes You Smarter |
06 Aug 2007 05:55:00 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote
.....................why you're so dumb.
Go ahead and stay ignorant, we don't really care.
Cj
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Duck & Run Explains Why He's the Dumbest Cluck in Creation |
06 Aug 2007 05:51:02 PM |
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Take a look above, and see how Duke the Puke explains why he's so
abysmally stupid - he never got laid!
And note once again, the message that this lying piece of trash left.
It contains three lies in one - something that Hurl the Pearl seems to
be making a real effort to specialize in of late.
I mean why tell one LIE per sentence if you can actually squeeze three
lies into four words?!
Let's enumerate them:
1=2E
He's about to repeat his tedious and unsupported LIE that I've kill-
filed him. As this message (and others he was too stupid to
comprehend) has proven I haven't. I see everything he posts. This
pathetic little worm simply cannot stand the fact that I will not
address him until he gets down on his bended knees and begs
forgiveness for his sins.
Do you have *any* idea what a joy it is to see a worm like him squirm
in so pained a fashion? LoL!
2=2E
The second LIE is his oft repeated one that I run from discussions.
As the ensuing abridged list proves beyond contention, he's the one
who runs. That's why he's Duck and Run he ducked and ran from every
"discussion" I ever entered into with him:
http://tinyurl.com/kc9l4
He's been ducking and running from me on average about once-a-week
since January of 2004 until I quit dealing with him directly on
September 9th last year.
It will be our anniversary next month! Everyone, a big Aaaaah!
Perhaps the most hilariously classic example of this is a thread he
started titled "Budikka Runs Away" on Sep 1 2004. As soon as I
entered that thread and engaged him, Duck and Run fled! My first
message was December 14th and by Dec 17th, Duck and Run is nowhere to
be found!
http://tinyurl.com/gqqo6
Another classic of this nature is "Why is duke Such a Coward?
(http://tinyurl.com/5p3qt)
Yep! You guessed it! He fled that one, too.
Yet another is "Earl J. Weber Running Scared"
http://tinyurl.com/apenc
This was opened June 18th 2005. Duck and Run was gone within four
days.
As soon as it finally permeates his dense cranium that he's in for the
inevitable Weber Raw ***** Colossally Kicked (the WRACK) he's outta
there like a startled cat. Here are some specific examples:
Why God Had to Come Down and Kill Himself
http://tinyurl.com/yw3tz
Another Problem for Creation IDiots
http://tinyurl.com/3px9j
Human aspect of Jesus
http://tinyurl.com/4w488
Jesus's three days sacrifice
http://tinyurl.com/3jhop
Which is the real God???
http://tinyurl.com/6bnoo
God isn't very smart about spreading his word, is he?
http://tinyurl.com/7xjux
Scientists find new face on back of Turin shroud
http://tinyurl.com/47gr2
- and his pathetic five "proofs" of a god in that same thread:
http://tinyurl.com/3al7q3
The Inquisition
http://tinyurl.com/4pokf
Why did Mekkla run away from a discussion of Heb 8:7-13?
http://tinyurl.com/4v759
Duck and Run got the WRACK - and he ran!
Why Didn't Jesus Die Sooner?
http://tinyurl.com/5gevm
3=2E
Finally, where is his discussion here? He repeatedly LIES that he
wants a discussion, but do you see him take the opportunity here or
anywhere? Do you see him start one? Do you see him make a supported
case to open a discussion?
If he had a clue how to participate in a discussion, how to support
his claims with rationale or evidence, that would be something, but
Duckshit has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that discussion is wa-
ay out of his class. All he can actually do is snipe at people as you
see him impotently do here.
Don't you love it when idiot theists are hoist by their own petard (or
perhaps more on target in this case, by his own p=E9ditum), and all we
have to do is shine a spotlight on it?
Budikka
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| User: "Doug Semler" |
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| Title: Re: Duck & Run Explains Why He's the Dumbest Cluck in Creation |
06 Aug 2007 09:41:54 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1186440662.198566.138660@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
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He's been ducking and running from me on average about once-a-week
since January of 2004 until I quit dealing with him directly on
September 9th last year.
I stopped "discussing" with him like 3 years ago. (Well, OK, I actually
stopped responding to everyone haha)
Of course, he then made a wild assertion that Mike Painter (I think) and I
were the same person perpetrating an elaborite hoax on him.
--
Doug Semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
The answer is 42; DNRC o-
Gur Hfrarg unf orpbzr fb shyy bs penc gurfr qnlf, abbar rira
erpbtavmrf fvzcyr guvatf yvxr ebg13 nalzber. Fnq, vfa'g vg?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Duck & Run Explains Why He's the Dumbest Cluck in Creation |
07 Aug 2007 06:01:20 AM |
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:41:54 -0400, "Doug Semler" <dougsemler@gmail.com> wrote:
I stopped "discussing" with him like 3 years ago. (Well, OK, I actually
stopped responding to everyone haha)
You NEVER did discuss anything with anyone, dave snowden.
Of course, he then made a wild assertion that Mike Painter (I think) and I
were the same person perpetrating an elaborite hoax on him.
Nope, not mikey. How about doug selmer (ds), dave snowden (ds) and danielsan
(ds), all of equal knowledge and personality. And all hanging in the San Diego
area (sd, oops).
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Doug Semler" |
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| Title: Re: Duck & Run Explains Why He's the Dumbest Cluck in Creation |
08 Aug 2007 07:53:22 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8vjgb3dquteu2rdv5ii9chfhpc2t8444ds@4ax.com...
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:41:54 -0400, "Doug Semler" <dougsemler@gmail.com>
wrote:
I stopped "discussing" with him like 3 years ago. (Well, OK, I actually
stopped responding to everyone haha)
You NEVER did discuss anything with anyone, dave snowden.
Of course, he then made a wild assertion that Mike Painter (I think) and I
were the same person perpetrating an elaborite hoax on him.
Nope, not mikey. How about doug selmer (ds), dave snowden (ds) and
danielsan
(ds), all of equal knowledge and personality. And all hanging in the San
Diego
area (sd, oops).
Oh, that's right, you think I have my phone number in michigan call
forwarded to somewhere in california. Obviously you haven't gotten
medicated for those delusions yet...(although I don't remember
danielsan...<shrug>)
Back to the bit bucket you go.
--
Doug Semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
The answer is 42; DNRC o-
Gur Hfrarg unf orpbzr fb shyy bs penc gurfr qnlf, abbar rira
erpbtavmrf fvzcyr guvatf yvxr ebg13 nalzber. Fnq, vfa'g vg?
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