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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Budikka666"
Date: 22 Dec 2006 07:44:39 AM
Object: Why There's No Design #70
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6199717.stm
"A global flu pandemic could kill 62 million people, experts have
warned. The 1918 pandemic claimed 50 million lives, and experts in The
Lancet predict the toll today would be higher than this, despite
medical advances."
Did a loving divine designer create a world where a virus arising out
of the blue could destroy 60 million innocent lives?
Or is the more intelligent position the one that logically deduces from
the best available evidence that there's no design?
Budikka
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User: "jshm2"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 08:24:32 AM
You fuckwit
Keep good hygiene, eat healthy, and keep yourself mentally fit. Follow
these three simple rules and no pandemic will come near you let alone
kill you. The supposed 60 million innocent lives will probably be
fuckwits like yourself who will not follow these simple three rules.
This is alt.atheism not alt.fuckwit ponder the mysteries of life not
create stupid arguments which you care and can do nothing about.
The problem is not God. It is losers who want something for nothing.
There is such a thing as free will you know. Idiots who cannot take the
responsibility for their own actions blame others. Arrogant people who
cannot accept their station in life blame God. Maybe the whole purpose
of your life is an example to others. Ponder that.
Budikka666 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6199717.stm
"A global flu pandemic could kill 62 million people, experts have
warned. The 1918 pandemic claimed 50 million lives, and experts in The
Lancet predict the toll today would be higher than this, despite
medical advances."

Did a loving divine designer create a world where a virus arising out
of the blue could destroy 60 million innocent lives?

Or is the more intelligent position the one that logically deduces from
the best available evidence that there's no design?

Budikka

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User: "Ips-Switch"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 01:08:18 PM
"jshm2" <jshm22@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166797472.498917.313160@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

You fuckwit

Keep good hygiene, eat healthy, and keep yourself mentally fit. Follow
these three simple rules and no pandemic will come near you let alone
kill you. The supposed 60 million innocent lives will probably be
fuckwits like yourself who will not follow these simple three rules.

Ebola and other viruses respect no one no matter how healthy. Read "The
Coming Plague" for starters.
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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 01:55:48 PM
Ips-Switch wrote:

"jshm2" <jshm22@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166797472.498917.313160@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

You fuckwit

Keep good hygiene, eat healthy, and keep yourself mentally fit. Follow
these three simple rules and no pandemic will come near you let alone
kill you. The supposed 60 million innocent lives will probably be
fuckwits like yourself who will not follow these simple three rules.



Ebola and other viruses respect no one no matter how healthy. Read "The
Coming Plague" for starters.

I'd recommend that, too. Laurie Garrett is awesome in her exposiiton:
http://tinyurl.com/vj6tf
Budikka
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User: "Ford T. FreezerClown"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 09:19:36 AM
"jshm2" <jshm22@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166797472.498917.313160@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

You fuckwit

Keep good hygiene, eat healthy, and keep yourself mentally fit. Follow
these three simple rules and no pandemic will come near you let alone
kill you. The supposed 60 million innocent lives will probably be
fuckwits like yourself who will not follow these simple three rules.

Who's the fuckwit? None of your "simple three rules" protect humans from
viruses. (I especially like the "mentally fit" rule! LOL!


This is alt.atheism not alt.fuckwit ponder the mysteries of life not
create stupid arguments which you care and can do nothing about.

The problem is not God. It is losers who want something for nothing.
There is such a thing as free will you know. Idiots who cannot take the
responsibility for their own actions blame others. Arrogant people who
cannot accept their station in life blame God. Maybe the whole purpose
of your life is an example to others. Ponder that.

Straw man argument and completely irrelevant, you fucking idiot.



Budikka666 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6199717.stm
"A global flu pandemic could kill 62 million people, experts have
warned. The 1918 pandemic claimed 50 million lives, and experts in The
Lancet predict the toll today would be higher than this, despite
medical advances."

Did a loving divine designer create a world where a virus arising out
of the blue could destroy 60 million innocent lives?

Or is the more intelligent position the one that logically deduces from
the best available evidence that there's no design?

Budikka


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User: "TimK"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 11:40:42 AM
"jshm2" <jshm22@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166797472.498917.313160@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

You fuckwit

Pot--->Kettle--->Black
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User: "ekrubmeg"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 12:51:04 PM
I'm having trouble finding "fuckwit" in the bible...
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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 01:52:58 PM
ekrubmeg wrote:

I'm having trouble finding "fuckwit" in the bible...

It's translated into English as "disciple" in the NT.
Budikka
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User: "TimK"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 02:40:24 PM
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1166817178.330733.191560@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

ekrubmeg wrote:

I'm having trouble finding "fuckwit" in the bible...


It's translated into English as "disciple" in the NT.

Budikka

Nice quote!
You are *so* going to hell for that:)
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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 05:06:48 PM
TimK wrote:

"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1166817178.330733.191560@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

ekrubmeg wrote:

I'm having trouble finding "fuckwit" in the bible...


It's translated into English as "disciple" in the NT.

Budikka


Nice quote!
You are *so* going to hell for that:)

If there is one, I sincerely hope so. Much rather that hell than the
one created by eternal enslavement to a narcissistic god!
Budikka
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User: "JEM"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 09:43:05 AM
On 22 Dec 2006 06:24:32 -0800, "jshm2" <jshm22@gmail.com> wrote:

You fuckwit

says the religi-tard


Keep good hygiene, eat healthy, and keep yourself mentally fit. Follow
these three simple rules and no pandemic will come near you let alone
kill you.

Do you have medical references you can cite?

The supposed 60 million innocent lives will probably be
fuckwits like yourself who will not follow these simple three rules.

Sound mind, sound body, and nothing will hurt you. Sounds like wishful
thinking. How do you know the pandemic will be so weak that healthy
people can't be harmed?


This is alt.atheism not alt.fuckwit ponder the mysteries of life not
create stupid arguments which you care and can do nothing about.

It read to me as one more of a million points that refute the claim to
intelligent design, or creationism or whatever the ***** you want to
call it, got a new term to try and twist the debate yet?


The problem is not God.

I'd have to give you a big YES on that. First reason- it doesn't
exist. Second reason- it's the brainwashed, especially the various
fundies that are the problem.

It is losers who want something for nothing.

And this has what to do with the "design"?

There is such a thing as free will you know.

I am free to believe it, but the subject of free will poses more of a
dilemna for a believer than a nonbeliever.

Idiots who cannot take the
responsibility for their own actions blame others.

Uh, are you saying this is part of the "design"? Where are you going
on that?

Arrogant people who
cannot accept their station in life blame God.

There are arrogant believers, and there are arrogant nonbelievers. An
arrogant believer may think to blame gawd, but the nonbeliever must be
blaming something else, or not blaming something at all. It's not
possible to blame something that you think does not exist.
You probably can't understand that because you have that gawd delusion
narrowing your perspective.

Maybe the whole purpose
of your life is an example to others. Ponder that.

And for all you know, anybody you rail at in a posting may be a great
example for others, and if it wasn't for the huge blind spot in your
view of the world, you might learn something yourself. Maybe you
should ponder some things for yourself, you seem to be insulting
someone for being arrogant, and it is in an arrogant manner. You are
making pretty strong claims about what will save you from a pandemic,
but it sounds like how to minimize your chances of getting a cold.
Do you have evidence that the 50 million people killed in 1918 were
all dirty, malnourished, and moronic?
Go ask your preacher what to say next. Maybe use that free will of
yours to figure out there is no reason to believe in god.
Ponder that.





Budikka666 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6199717.stm
"A global flu pandemic could kill 62 million people, experts have
warned. The 1918 pandemic claimed 50 million lives, and experts in The
Lancet predict the toll today would be higher than this, despite
medical advances."

Did a loving divine designer create a world where a virus arising out
of the blue could destroy 60 million innocent lives?

Or is the more intelligent position the one that logically deduces from
the best available evidence that there's no design?

Budikka

.

User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 08:22:13 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet jshm2 (jshm22@gmail.com) made
the light shine upon us with this:

The problem is not God. It is losers who want something for nothing.

I need a fishing pole, some wieghts, a big hook, and about 250,000 miles of
100 lb. test. My irony-o-meter is on the moon.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 23 Dec 2006 02:35:57 AM
In article <Xns98A1BADCD5B55vicman@66.250.146.128>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet jshm2 (jshm22@gmail.com) made
the light shine upon us with this:

The problem is not God. It is losers who want something for nothing.


I need a fishing pole, some wieghts, a big hook, and about 250,000 miles of
100 lb. test. My irony-o-meter is on the moon.

Mine just bounced off the ISS. Hope it didn't break anything.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 23 Dec 2006 09:55:59 PM
Uncle Vic wrote:

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet jshm2 (jshm22@gmail.com) made
the light shine upon us with this:

The problem is not God. It is losers who want something for nothing.


I need a fishing pole, some wieghts, a big hook, and about 250,000 miles of
100 lb. test.

Didn't they find *exactly* those items in the wreckage of the Pentagon
in 2001? ;)
Budikka
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User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 31 Dec 2006 01:26:43 AM
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
bloodied us up with this:

Uncle Vic wrote:

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet jshm2 (jshm22@gmail.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:

The problem is not God. It is losers who want something for
nothing.


I need a fishing pole, some wieghts, a big hook, and about 250,000
miles of 100 lb. test.


Didn't they find *exactly* those items in the wreckage of the Pentagon
in 2001? ;)

Budikka


Yeah, I know, I'm one of those liberals Sam Harris wrote about. Oh well.
I still think we're being lied to.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
.



User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 01:51:18 PM
jshm2 wrote:

You fuckwit

Is this the best "argument" you got? I pity you.

Keep good hygiene, eat healthy, and keep yourself mentally fit.

Please do us all a favor and present the science as to how these three
things will be guaranteed to prevent a virus pandemic - short of
everyone locking themselves into hermeticly-sealed rooms and staying
there indefinitely, that is.
And after that, you still need to address the question of why a loving
god designed these harmful viruses in the first place.
Go ahead. I'm waiting.
[Rest of assininity flushed where it belongs]
Budikka
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User: "Ford T. FreezerClown"

Title: Re: Why There's No Design #70 22 Dec 2006 02:26:23 PM
Budikka666 wrote:

jshm2 wrote:

You fuckwit


Is this the best "argument" you got? I pity you.

Keep good hygiene, eat healthy, and keep yourself mentally fit.


Please do us all a favor and present the science as to how these three
things will be guaranteed to prevent a virus pandemic - short of
everyone locking themselves into hermeticly-sealed rooms and staying
there indefinitely, that is.

And after that, you still need to address the question of why a loving
god designed these harmful viruses in the first place.

Perhaps god created the viruses to test the unfaithful and provide
himself with more fodder for the hell fires.
The best thing about religious arguments is that they do not require
the elements of fact, evidence, or reasoning. Anything in the universe
can be explained away when one starts from the belief in something that
offers no proof of its own existence. So we're left only with god's
will and his annoying habit of working in mysterious ways.
The most regrettable thing about this argument is to wonder how far
advanced we might be at this point in our history if our people's
heads weren't filled with such nonsense. We might have developed cures
for all of these viruses and building a vehicle to land on the moon
might be something an average teenager can do for a high school science
project.


Go ahead. I'm waiting.

[Rest of assininity flushed where it belongs]

Budikka

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