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"Fred Stone" |
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22 May 2007 04:42:18 PM |
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Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25578
_Weird_Fatwa_of_the_Day&only
Al-Azhar University, one of Sunni Islam’s most prestigious
institutions, ordered one of its clerics Monday to face a disciplinary
panel after he issued a controversial decree allowing adults to breast-
feed.
Ezzat Attiya had issued a fatwa, or religious edict, saying adult
men could breast-feed from female work colleagues as a way to avoid
breaking Islamic rules that forbid men and women from being alone
together.
In Islamic tradition, breast-feeding establishes a degree of
maternal relation, even if a woman nurses a child who is not
biologically hers. It means the child could not marry the nursing
woman’s biological children.
Attiya - the head of Al-Azhar’s Department of Hadith, or teachings
of the Prophet Muhammad - insisted the same would apply with adults. He
argued that if a man nursed from a co-worker, it would establish a
family bond between them and allow the two to work side-by-side without
raising suspicion of an illicit sexual relation.
[But don't worry, Attiya has retracted his fatwa. Well, sort of...]
Professor Ezzat Attia of Al Azhar University got in trouble for his
incredibly strange fatwa about adult breastfeeding, and now he’s
retracted it.
CAIRO — A professor at Egypt’s Islamic Al Azhar university Monday
retracted a controversial religious edict which states that a woman can
only be left alone with a strange man if she breastfeeds him.
Ezzat Attia, president of the university’s Hadith department which
studies traditions based on the Prophet Mohammed’s words and deeds,
withdrew his fatwa and apologized for any inconvenience he caused, in a
statement distributed by Al Azhar, Sunni Islam’s main seat of learning.
Attia’s edict, which sparked an uproar in the media, stated that a
woman can only be alone with a man to whom she is not related - such as
an office colleague - if she nurses him “directly from her breast” at
least five times.
In his retraction, Attia said the fatwa had been a result of his
personal analysis of Islamic texts and was in fact “a bad interpretation
of a particular case” during the time of Prophet Mohammed. According to
Mabruk Attia, a professor of theology at Al Azhar, the Prophet had
advised a woman to nurse her adult adopted son, to become his wet nurse,
following an Islamic ban on adoption. The woman gave the man her milk
from a bowl, and not directly from her breast, Mabruk Attia said.
--
Fred Stone
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"The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic
organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its
enemies."
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
22 May 2007 05:53:13 PM |
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In article <Xns9938BD30D678Bfreddybear@66.150.105.47>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25578
_Weird_Fatwa_of_the_Day&only
Al-Azhar University, one of Sunni Islam’s most prestigious
institutions, ordered one of its clerics Monday to face a disciplinary
panel after he issued a controversial decree allowing adults to breast-
feed.
Ezzat Attiya had issued a fatwa, or religious edict, saying adult
men could breast-feed from female work colleagues as a way to avoid
breaking Islamic rules that forbid men and women from being alone
together.
"Hello, Nabiha! Goodness, is it cold in here or are you just happy to
see me?"
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
22 May 2007 07:30:35 PM |
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:53:13 -0700, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com>
wrote:
In article <Xns9938BD30D678Bfreddybear@66.150.105.47>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25578
_Weird_Fatwa_of_the_Day&only
Al-Azhar University, one of Sunni Islam’s most prestigious
institutions, ordered one of its clerics Monday to face a disciplinary
panel after he issued a controversial decree allowing adults to breast-
feed.
Ezzat Attiya had issued a fatwa, or religious edict, saying adult
men could breast-feed from female work colleagues as a way to avoid
breaking Islamic rules that forbid men and women from being alone
together.
"Hello, Nabiha! Goodness, is it cold in here or are you just happy to
see me?"
So religion "allows" you to do something that almost no one would want
to do, so that doing something almost everyone wants to do doesn't
break the rules. Is this a new definition of "insane"?
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
23 May 2007 01:48:40 PM |
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In article <bn2753l05kfkbgg1t19pkjk2krbnj1kk2v@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:53:13 -0700, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com>
wrote:
In article <Xns9938BD30D678Bfreddybear@66.150.105.47>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25578
_Weird_Fatwa_of_the_Day&only
Al-Azhar University, one of Sunni Islam’s most prestigious
institutions, ordered one of its clerics Monday to face a disciplinary
panel after he issued a controversial decree allowing adults to breast-
feed.
Ezzat Attiya had issued a fatwa, or religious edict, saying adult
men could breast-feed from female work colleagues as a way to avoid
breaking Islamic rules that forbid men and women from being alone
together.
"Hello, Nabiha! Goodness, is it cold in here or are you just happy to
see me?"
So religion "allows" you to do something that almost no one would want
to do, so that doing something almost everyone wants to do doesn't
break the rules. Is this a new definition of "insane"?
Any justification for wick-wetting is a good one, IMO.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
22 May 2007 08:45:31 PM |
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On May 23, 7:42 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25578
_Weird_Fatwa_of_the_Day&only
Al-Azhar University, one of Sunni Islam's most prestigious
institutions, ordered one of its clerics Monday to face a disciplinary
panel after he issued a controversial decree allowing adults to breast-
feed.
Ezzat Attiya had issued a fatwa, or religious edict, saying adult
men could breast-feed from female work colleagues as a way to avoid
breaking Islamic rules that forbid men and women from being alone
together.
In Islamic tradition, breast-feeding establishes a degree of
maternal relation, even if a woman nurses a child who is not
biologically hers. It means the child could not marry the nursing
woman's biological children.
Attiya - the head of Al-Azhar's Department of Hadith, or teachings
of the Prophet Muhammad - insisted the same would apply with adults. He
argued that if a man nursed from a co-worker, it would establish a
family bond between them and allow the two to work side-by-side without
raising suspicion of an illicit sexual relation.
Wow!
That is insane.
Like Dawkins says this kind of weird thinking may be amusing - but the
same kind of "reasonoing" can also lead to human missery and death.
Mark.
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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| Title: Re: Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
23 May 2007 12:45:03 AM |
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[snips]
On Tue, 22 May 2007 21:42:18 +0000, Fred Stone wrote:
In Islamic tradition, breast-feeding establishes a degree of
maternal relation, even if a woman nurses a child who is not
biologically hers. It means the child could not marry the nursing
womanÂ’s biological children.
Attiya - the head of Al-AzharÂ’s Department of Hadith, or teachings
of the Prophet Muhammad - insisted the same would apply with adults. He
argued that if a man nursed from a co-worker, it would establish a
family bond between them and allow the two to work side-by-side without
raising suspicion of an illicit sexual relation.
"Hey, Julie, come here and lemme suck yer nipples, to establish a good
working relationship."
Somehow I just don't see this going over too well.
--
Do not follow in the footsteps of men of old; seek what they sought.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
23 May 2007 11:26:52 AM |
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"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9m0di4-ooe.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
[snips]
On Tue, 22 May 2007 21:42:18 +0000, Fred Stone wrote:
In Islamic tradition, breast-feeding establishes a degree of
maternal relation, even if a woman nurses a child who is not
biologically hers. It means the child could not marry the nursing
woman’s biological children.
Attiya - the head of Al-Azhar’s Department of Hadith, or teachings
of the Prophet Muhammad - insisted the same would apply with adults. He
argued that if a man nursed from a co-worker, it would establish a
family bond between them and allow the two to work side-by-side without
raising suspicion of an illicit sexual relation.
"Hey, Julie, come here and lemme suck yer nipples, to establish a good
working relationship."
Somehow I just don't see this going over too well.
Jeebus Xmas, I would crack the skull of the first dingleberry who tried to
even touch me! :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
23 May 2007 12:32:55 PM |
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In article <5bj89rF2sidpsU1@mid.individual.net> "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9m0di4-ooe.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
[snips]
On Tue, 22 May 2007 21:42:18 +0000, Fred Stone wrote:
In Islamic tradition, breast-feeding establishes a degree of
maternal relation, even if a woman nurses a child who is not
biologically hers. It means the child could not marry the nursing
woman’s biological children.
Attiya - the head of Al-Azhar’s Department of Hadith, or teachings
of the Prophet Muhammad - insisted the same would apply with adults. He
argued that if a man nursed from a co-worker, it would establish a
family bond between them and allow the two to work side-by-side without
raising suspicion of an illicit sexual relation.
"Hey, Julie, come here and lemme suck yer nipples, to establish a good
working relationship."
Somehow I just don't see this going over too well.
Jeebus Xmas, I would crack the skull of the first dingleberry who tried to
even touch me! :P
Well, YOU'RE not much of a team player, are you?
-- cary
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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| Title: Re: Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
23 May 2007 11:45:03 PM |
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[snips]
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:26:52 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hey, Julie, come here and lemme suck yer nipples, to establish a good
working relationship."
Somehow I just don't see this going over too well.
Jeebus Xmas, I would crack the skull of the first dingleberry who tried to
even touch me! :P
What,not gonna take one for the team? Or even several? Line up, boys, we
got us a live one. :)
<grin, duck, run *very* fast>
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This is an evil place, Marilyn.
- Jesse C. Jones (Talking about HolySmoke)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Wierd Fatwa Of The Day & sequel... |
24 May 2007 09:37:44 AM |
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"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ahfi4-im2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net...
[snips]
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:26:52 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Hey, Julie, come here and lemme suck yer nipples, to establish a good
working relationship."
Somehow I just don't see this going over too well.
Jeebus Xmas, I would crack the skull of the first dingleberry who tried
to
even touch me! :P
What,not gonna take one for the team? Or even several? Line up, boys, we
got us a live one. :)
What? WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
<grin, duck, run *very* fast>
<starts swinging bolas over head>
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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