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http://www.johnreilly.info/28April06.htm
April 28, 2006
The Fermi Paradox; Atlas Shrugged; Oil Spike
The Fermi Paradox has become more paradoxical if this report is to be
believed:
A new study finds that the chances of a gamma ray burst going off in
our galaxy and destroying life on Earth are comfortingly close to zero.
Gamma ray bursts, or GRBs, are focused beams of gamma radiation emitted
from the magnetic poles of black holes formed during the collapse of
ancient, behemoth stars. They can also form when dead neutron stars
merge with each other or with black holes.
It's been speculated that if a GRB went off near our solar system, and
one of the beams hit Earth, it could set off a global mass extinction.
But in a new study to be published in the Astrophysical Journal,
researchers found that GRBs tend to occur in small, metal-poor galaxies
and estimated that the likelihood of one occurring in our own
metal-rich Milky Way is less than 0.15 percent....But in their study,
Stanek and colleagues found that GRBs tend to occur in small, deformed
galaxies that are poor in elements heavier than hydrogen and
helium...Planets need metals to form, so a low-metal galaxy-while
more likely to have GRBs-will have fewer planets and fewer chances
for life.
Readers will recall that the gamma-ray hypothesis had become the
leading explanation for why intelligent life did not long ago overrun
the observable universe. (To paraphrase Enrico Fermi: "If
extraterrestrials exist, then where are they?") The answer to the
paradox was thought to be that Earth is the one-in-a-million
biologically active world that escaped gamma-ray sterilization: Simon
Conway Morris himself seemed satisfied with this logic. Now we are back
to square one. I have my own explanation, of course.
* * *
Speaking of alien life forms, I note this news about Ayn Rand's novel,
Atlas Shrugged:
Lionsgate shrugging--'Atlas' pic mapped: As for stars, the book
provides an ideal role for an actress in lead character Dagny Taggart,
so it's not a stretch to assume Rand enthusiast Angelina Jolie. Jolie's
name has been brought up. Brad Pitt, also a fan, is rumored to be among
the names suggested for lead male character John Galt.
Though I was never a Randian, I always thought that The Fountainhead
was charming. Atlas Shrugged is not charming, but it does have a
certain appalling fascination. For the life of me, though, I cannot
imagine the mainline film industry making a movie about the evils of
high marginal tax rates and the intrinsic turpitude of
affirmative-action programs. (Rand was prescient in foreseeing those,
though in her book they are designed to mitigate disparities of wealth
rather than the effects of race and gender discrimination.) In any
case, the interesting thing will be how a film handles the religion
question: John Galt's Speech, remember, is the most sustained attack on
religious belief in 20th-century popular literature. A sufficiently
malicious screenwriter could divert the film from economics to the
menace of the Religious Right.
* * *
Ayn Rand would have loved the current run up in gas prices; which is to
say, she would have been vastly amused by the futile pandering
reflected in headlines like G.O.P. Senators Hurry to Quell Furor Over
Gas:
Senate Republicans tried on Thursday to get the upper hand in the
escalating political battle over high gasoline prices by proposing a
$100 rebate for taxpayers and by suggesting that they might increase
taxes on oil-industry profits.
Rand is no longer with us. We do have Ann Coulter, however. Though more
conventionally partisan than Rand, she is also sometimes right:
When the free market does the exact thing liberals have been itching to
do through taxation, they pretend to be appalled by high gas prices,
hoping the public will forget that high gas prices are part of their
agenda.
There are proximate causes for the current price spikes. One is a
regulation (just relaxed) that required refineries to use a new
gasoline additive; the refiners handled the transition badly. Another
is the increase in petroleum price futures occasioned by geopolitical
fears. The remote causes, however, are that demand for oil is up
worldwide and there are no cheap ways to increase supply. No doubt the
current spike will decline again, but we will get more of these events,
some of them much more serious, which will move us away from a
petroleum economy. This is the reality of which "Peak Oil" is a parody.
* * *
Many of you have asked yourselves, whatever happened to Bertie Wooster,
the slow-normal young gentleman whose life was made possible only by
the perpetual intervention of the omnicompetent Jeeves? Well, he went
to medical school, moved to Princeton, acquired some post-vocalic "R"s,
and now he's Dr. House
The penny dropped about this just yesterday and I still find it hard to
believe.
* * *
Meanwhile, in the May issue of First Things, Fr. Neuhaus has this
ominous reflection:
I've never seen anybody remark on this American habit of calling the
children of the baby boomers Generation X, while those who are now
under age 25 or so are called Generation Y. There is only one letter
left. The assumption is that the next generation will be the last? Just
asking.
Of course, we are still not quite sure about those gamma rays.
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18 May 2006 01:04:53 PM |
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An Atlas Shrugged movie? Interesting thought (and I'd love Angelina
Jolie as Dagny), but I don't see how you could do it in 2-3 hour movie,
without cutting way too much.
How about a mini series?
---
Franklin Jefferson
***My blog: Jefferson's Democracy***
http://franklinjefferson.blogspot.com
"Dangerous laws created by well intentioned people today can be used by
dangerous people with evil intentions tomorrow."
- Alan Eppers
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21 May 2006 01:03:49 PM |
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An Atlas Shrugged movie? Interesting thought (and I'd love Angelina
Jolie as Dagny), but I don't see how you could do it in 2-3 hour movie,
without cutting way too much.
How about a mini series?
How about a comic book ("graphic novel") series? Sort of
along the lines of _Sin_City_. The tendentious lectures could
be relegated to a sort of appendix where they would be printed
in very, very small type using light gray ink.
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21 May 2006 11:40:23 PM |
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<anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote in message
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franklinjefferson@hotmail.com wrote:
An Atlas Shrugged movie? Interesting thought (and I'd love Angelina
Jolie as Dagny), but I don't see how you could do it in 2-3 hour movie,
without cutting way too much.
How about a mini series?
How about a comic book ("graphic novel") series? Sort of
along the lines of _Sin_City_. The tendentious lectures could
be relegated to a sort of appendix where they would be printed
in very, very small type using light gray ink.
neat idea.... they could then use nice bright colors on the other page......
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22 May 2006 11:07:16 AM |
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brique wrote:
<anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote in message
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franklinjefferson@hotmail.com wrote:
An Atlas Shrugged movie? Interesting thought (and I'd love Angelina
Jolie as Dagny), but I don't see how you could do it in 2-3 hour movie,
without cutting way too much.
How about a mini series?
How about a comic book ("graphic novel") series? Sort of
along the lines of _Sin_City_. The tendentious lectures could
be relegated to a sort of appendix where they would be printed
in very, very small type using light gray ink.
neat idea.... they could then use nice bright colors on the other page......
No, no, stark black and white, simple outlines, like an Ayn
Rand work _ought_ to be. Ever see _Sin_City_? If not get
thee swiftly to a comix store and you'll see what I mean.
It's just what Ayn needs to subdue Christianity -- a classix
comix vehicle.
We already have the stick-figure rock music to go with it.
_Then_ the movie!
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| User: "Eric D. Berge eric_berge @ hotmail.com.invalid" |
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22 May 2006 02:47:53 PM |
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On 21 May 2006 11:03:49 -0700, wrote:
franklinjefferson@hotmail.com wrote:
An Atlas Shrugged movie? Interesting thought (and I'd love Angelina
Jolie as Dagny), but I don't see how you could do it in 2-3 hour movie,
without cutting way too much.
How about a mini series?
How about a comic book ("graphic novel") series? Sort of
along the lines of _Sin_City_. The tendentious lectures could
be relegated to a sort of appendix where they would be printed
in very, very small type using light gray ink.
Already done, by Bob the Angry Flower.
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25 May 2006 09:44:46 AM |
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Eric D. Berge wrote:
On 21 May 2006 11:03:49 -0700, wrote:
franklinjefferson@hotmail.com wrote:
An Atlas Shrugged movie? Interesting thought (and I'd love Angelina
Jolie as Dagny), but I don't see how you could do it in 2-3 hour movie,
without cutting way too much.
How about a mini series?
How about a comic book ("graphic novel") series? Sort of
along the lines of _Sin_City_. The tendentious lectures could
be relegated to a sort of appendix where they would be printed
in very, very small type using light gray ink.
Already done, by Bob the Angry Flower.
_Atlas_Shrugged_ in comix form? Where?
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| User: "Eric D. Berge eric_berge @ hotmail.com.invalid" |
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25 May 2006 10:06:02 PM |
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On 25 May 2006 07:44:46 -0700, wrote:
Eric D. Berge wrote:
On 21 May 2006 11:03:49 -0700, wrote:
franklinjefferson@hotmail.com wrote:
An Atlas Shrugged movie? Interesting thought (and I'd love Angelina
Jolie as Dagny), but I don't see how you could do it in 2-3 hour movie,
without cutting way too much.
How about a mini series?
How about a comic book ("graphic novel") series? Sort of
along the lines of _Sin_City_. The tendentious lectures could
be relegated to a sort of appendix where they would be printed
in very, very small type using light gray ink.
Already done, by Bob the Angry Flower.
_Atlas_Shrugged_ in comix form? Where?
Enjoy:
http://angryflower.com/atlass.gif
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| User: "Gene Ward Smith" |
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18 May 2006 04:38:04 PM |
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An Atlas Shrugged movie? Interesting thought (and I'd love Angelina
Jolie as Dagny), but I don't see how you could do it in 2-3 hour movie,
without cutting way too much.
Don't give John Galt a speaking role.
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| User: "William December Starr" |
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18 May 2006 09:32:46 PM |
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In article <1147988284.175921.30830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> said:
An Atlas Shrugged movie? Interesting thought (and I'd love
Angelina Jolie as Dagny), but I don't see how you could do it in
2-3 hour movie, without cutting way too much.
Don't give John Galt a speaking role.
And make Dagny a stripper.
Okay, maybe that wouldn't make the movie any shorter, but it would
certainly be better.
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William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com>
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| User: "Wim Lewis" |
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20 May 2006 08:37:25 PM |
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In article <e4jaoe$91$1@panix1.panix.com>,
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
In article <1147988284.175921.30830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> said:
Don't give John Galt a speaking role.
And make Dagny a stripper.
Okay, maybe that wouldn't make the movie any shorter, but it would
certainly be better.
I don't know ... I saw _Showgirls_, and that pretty much cured me of
thinking that adding strippers to a movie might make it better.
--
Wim Lewis <wiml@hhhh.org>, Seattle, WA, USA. PGP keyID 27F772C1
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20 May 2006 11:24:08 PM |
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"Wim Lewis" <wiml@hhhh.org> wrote in message
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In article <e4jaoe$91$1@panix1.panix.com>,
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
In article <1147988284.175921.30830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> said:
Don't give John Galt a speaking role.
And make Dagny a stripper.
Okay, maybe that wouldn't make the movie any shorter, but it would
certainly be better.
I don't know ... I saw _Showgirls_, and that pretty much cured me of
thinking that adding strippers to a movie might make it better.
Really? Picture Showgirls without strippers.
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20 May 2006 10:30:11 PM |
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Wim Lewis wrote:
In article <e4jaoe$91$1@panix1.panix.com>,
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
In article <1147988284.175921.30830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> said:
Don't give John Galt a speaking role.
And make Dagny a stripper.
Okay, maybe that wouldn't make the movie any shorter, but it would
certainly be better.
I don't know ... I saw _Showgirls_, and that pretty much cured me of
thinking that adding strippers to a movie might make it better.
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
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Sea Wasp
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;;;
Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
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| User: "brique" |
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21 May 2006 09:50:56 AM |
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Sea Wasp <seawaspobvious@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote in message
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Wim Lewis wrote:
In article <e4jaoe$91$1@panix1.panix.com>,
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
In article <1147988284.175921.30830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> said:
Don't give John Galt a speaking role.
And make Dagny a stripper.
Okay, maybe that wouldn't make the movie any shorter, but it would
certainly be better.
I don't know ... I saw _Showgirls_, and that pretty much cured me of
thinking that adding strippers to a movie might make it better.
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
Daleks, like man, sooooooo non-escalatory...... tribbles, thats what a good
movie needs.......
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Sea Wasp
/^\
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Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
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| User: "Gene Ward Smith" |
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21 May 2006 12:13:57 AM |
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Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
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| User: "Mike Schilling" |
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21 May 2006 11:11:30 AM |
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"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148188437.630068.313120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
Hamlet with Daleks:
"Exterminate! Exterminate!"
"They're all dead already!"
"*****!"
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| User: "Westprog" |
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23 May 2006 05:32:20 AM |
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"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148188437.630068.313120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
Hamlet with Daleks:
"Exterminate! Exterminate!"
"They're all dead already!"
"*****!"
IIRC, it's never explicitly stated that Fortinbras is not a Dalek.
J/
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| User: "Michael Price" |
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23 May 2006 11:28:37 PM |
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Westprog wrote:
"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148188437.630068.313120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
Hamlet with Daleks:
"Exterminate! Exterminate!"
"They're all dead already!"
"*****!"
IIRC, it's never explicitly stated that Fortinbras is not a Dalek.
J/
Every generation interprets the Bard differently.
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24 May 2006 12:48:06 AM |
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"Michael Price" <nini_pad@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Westprog wrote:
"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
Hamlet with Daleks:
"Exterminate! Exterminate!"
"They're all dead already!"
"*****!"
IIRC, it's never explicitly stated that Fortinbras is not a Dalek.
J/
Every generation interprets the Bard differently.
That is so perfect a conclusion to this thread that I had to look out the
window to check that the stars weren't going out.
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| User: "Westprog" |
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24 May 2006 05:02:05 AM |
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"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Price" <nini_pad@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Westprog wrote:
"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148188437.630068.313120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
....
Hamlet with Daleks:
"Exterminate! Exterminate!"
"They're all dead already!"
"*****!"
IIRC, it's never explicitly stated that Fortinbras is not a Dalek.
Every generation interprets the Bard differently.
That is so perfect a conclusion to this thread that I had to look out the
window to check that the stars weren't going out.
Every thread is best ended with Daleks.
J/
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| User: "Eric D. Berge eric_berge @ hotmail.com.invalid" |
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22 May 2006 02:47:04 PM |
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 16:11:30 GMT, "Mike Schilling"
<mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
Hamlet with Daleks:
"Exterminate! Exterminate!"
"They're all dead already!"
"*****!"
That's from this version of Hamlet, right? -
http://sub-zero.mit.edu/bakunin/hamlet.html
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| User: "Mike Schilling" |
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22 May 2006 03:04:55 PM |
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"Eric D. Berge" <eric_berge @ hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 16:11:30 GMT, "Mike Schilling"
<mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hamlet with Daleks:
"Exterminate! Exterminate!"
"They're all dead already!"
"*****!"
That's from this version of Hamlet, right? -
http://sub-zero.mit.edu/bakunin/hamlet.html
Serendipitously so.
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21 May 2006 12:19:55 AM |
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"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
You know, there are a lot of books that would be much improved by Daleks
popping up in the last chapter and screaming "Exterminate!" and shoot death
rays everywhere. Jane Austin for one. The bible for another. I tell you
that would rock!
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| User: "brique" |
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21 May 2006 09:52:41 AM |
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Midnighter <torturedartist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148188437.630068.313120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
You know, there are a lot of books that would be much improved by Daleks
popping up in the last chapter and screaming "Exterminate!" and shoot
death
rays everywhere. Jane Austin for one. The bible for another. I tell you
that would rock!
far more books would be improved by daleks popping up on page one and
exterminating the entire cast of characters.... Blakes Peerage for one.....
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| User: "Midnighter" |
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21 May 2006 10:35:35 AM |
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"brique" <briquenoir@freeuk.c0m> wrote in message
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Midnighter <torturedartist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
You know, there are a lot of books that would be much improved by Daleks
popping up in the last chapter and screaming "Exterminate!" and shoot
death
rays everywhere. Jane Austin for one. The bible for another. I tell
you
that would rock!
far more books would be improved by daleks popping up on page one and
exterminating the entire cast of characters.... Blakes Peerage for
one.....
No, i think that a little bit of the book would be needed to show how badly
the characters and or book need Exterminating. Otherwise how would we
appreciate the Daleks heroic endevours?
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21 May 2006 11:38:36 PM |
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Midnighter <torturedartist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
You know, there are a lot of books that would be much improved by
Daleks
popping up in the last chapter and screaming "Exterminate!" and shoot
death
rays everywhere. Jane Austin for one. The bible for another. I tell
you
that would rock!
far more books would be improved by daleks popping up on page one and
exterminating the entire cast of characters.... Blakes Peerage for
one.....
No, i think that a little bit of the book would be needed to show how
badly
the characters and or book need Exterminating. Otherwise how would we
appreciate the Daleks heroic endevours?
You have a point, I suppose.but Blakes Peerage says it all just by the
title, of course exterminating the persons within would be a heroic
endeavour....
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| User: "Sea Wasp" |
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21 May 2006 07:30:04 AM |
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Midnighter wrote:
"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
You know, there are a lot of books that would be much improved by Daleks
popping up in the last chapter and screaming "Exterminate!" and shoot death
rays everywhere. Jane Austin for one.
Do you mean Jane Austen? Or that famous writer of Western Romance
novels Jane Austin? In the latter case it would be quite a shootout.
The bible for another. I tell you
that would rock!
The Catcher in the Rye... with Daleks!
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
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Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
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| User: "Midnighter" |
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21 May 2006 10:34:35 AM |
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"Sea Wasp" <seawaspobvious@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote in message
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Midnighter wrote:
"Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148188437.630068.313120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sea Wasp wrote:
Daleks. Everything's better with Daleks.
That would work. In Atlas Shrugged, you first realize what creeps all
the bad guys are. Later
you realize what creeps all the good guys are. Then Galt starts his
speech...at this point, the Daleks break in, screeching "Exterminate!
Exterminate!" and shooting death rays everywhere.
You know, there are a lot of books that would be much improved by Daleks
popping up in the last chapter and screaming "Exterminate!" and shoot
death rays everywhere. Jane Austin for one.
Do you mean Jane Austen? Or that famous writer of Western Romance novels
Jane Austin? In the latter case it would be quite a shootout.
The bible for another. I tell you
that would rock!
The Catcher in the Rye... with Daleks!
You mean the big run on paragraph. Man that book was unreadable. Just as
he gets to New York the Daleks attack! Exterminate! Exterminate!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: You can bet Re: Will Hollywood Use Ayn Rand As Weapon Against Christianity? |
25 May 2006 03:08:39 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
In any
case, the interesting thing will be how a film handles the religion
question: John Galt's Speech, remember, is the most sustained attack on
religious belief in 20th-century popular literature. A sufficiently
malicious screenwriter could divert the film from economics to the
menace of the Religious Right.
Heh. You can bet that malicious liberal screenwriters are busy right
now.
This movie, if done well, will make Ayn freaks and Jesus freaks in
Republican praty turn to each other and finish conservatives once and
for all. :-)))
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: You can bet Re: Will Hollywood Use Ayn Rand As Weapon Against Christianity? |
25 May 2006 03:25:51 AM |
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On 25 May 2006 01:08:39 -0700, wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
In any
case, the interesting thing will be how a film handles the religion
question: John Galt's Speech, remember, is the most sustained attack on
religious belief in 20th-century popular literature. A sufficiently
malicious screenwriter could divert the film from economics to the
menace of the Religious Right.
Heh. You can bet that malicious liberal screenwriters are busy right
now.
The "malicious liberal screenwriter" wouldn't have to do anything: she
can simply leave the speech in as is.
Atlas Shrugged might have been a better novel if Ayn Rand excersized a
little self-control and trim the damn book down a bit. I get it, greed
is good. No need for that tenth soapbox sololiquy that goes on for 7
pages saying the same thing as nine previous ones.
On second thought, it would still be crap.
This movie, if done well, will make Ayn freaks and Jesus freaks in
Republican praty turn to each other and finish conservatives once and
for all. :-)))
Who knew Brad Pitt would the one who brings down the GOP?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2458 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
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Saint Patrick Catholic Church
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Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
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| User: "Sea Wasp" |
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| Title: Re: You can bet Re: Will Hollywood Use Ayn Rand As Weapon AgainstChristianity? |
25 May 2006 07:37:25 AM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Atlas Shrugged might have been a better novel if Ayn Rand excersized a
little self-control and trim the damn book down a bit. I get it, greed
is good.
Actually, she apparently didn't say it enough, if that's what you got
out of it, because that's about as wrongheaded an interpretation as
one can get.
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Sea Wasp
/^\
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Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
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