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"The Countess" |
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18 Jan 2008 07:05:12 AM |
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Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
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| User: "Amanda Williams" |
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| Title: Re: Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
18 Jan 2008 07:48:56 AM |
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"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> allegedly said in news:4790a3fc$0
$4984$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
We can only hope....
I would just love watching the hapless GOP commit political suicide.
Chickens coming home to roost... springs to mind, they have been using the
religious whack-jobs as vote fodder for the last 25 years, now it's maybe
going to bite them... great fun...
<snicker>
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AW
<small but dangerous>
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| User: "Neocon Oil Cheerleaders" |
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18 Jan 2008 08:08:36 AM |
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In article <Xns9A295A1A34970fubar@63.218.45.252>, says...
"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> allegedly said in news:4790a3fc$0
$4984$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
We can only hope....
I would just love watching the hapless GOP commit political suicide.
Chickens coming home to roost... springs to mind, they have been using the
religious whack-jobs as vote fodder for the last 25 years, now it's maybe
going to bite them... great fun...
<snicker>
Just goes to show that no matter how bad it gets, it can always get worse.
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| User: "Hatter" |
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18 Jan 2008 10:02:14 AM |
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On Jan 18, 8:48=A0am, Amanda Williams <p...@fu.com> wrote:
"The Countess" <count...@notyourmama.com> allegedly said in news:4790a3fc$=
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$4984$4c368...@roadrunner.com:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
We can only hope....
I would just love watching the hapless GOP commit political suicide.
Chickens coming home to roost... springs to mind, they have been using the=
religious whack-jobs as vote fodder for the last 25 years, now it's maybe
going to bite them... great fun...
<snicker>
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I have a diffent view. Remember the 84 election? The Dems knew that
they didn't have a chance in hell, so they threw a bone to a part of
the core constituency by allowing a female VP on the ticket.
(Remember gender attitudes were a little more backward 24 years ago)
SImilarly the Repubs know part of their core consituency, the
religious right, is splintering from them, so they are throwing them a
bone to shore up thier support for future elections they have a chance
of winning.
Hatter
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| User: "JohnN" |
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| Title: Re: Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
18 Jan 2008 03:34:47 PM |
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On Jan 18, 11:02=A0am, Hatter <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 18, 8:48=A0am, Amanda Williams <p...@fu.com> wrote:
"The Countess" <count...@notyourmama.com> allegedly said in news:4790a3f=
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$4984$4c368...@roadrunner.com:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in=
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
We can only hope....
I would just love watching the hapless GOP commit political suicide.
Chickens coming home to roost... springs to mind, they have been using t=
he
religious whack-jobs as vote fodder for the last 25 years, now it's mayb=
e
going to bite them... great fun...
<snicker>
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I have a diffent view. Remember the 84 election? The Dems knew that
they didn't have a chance in hell, so they threw a bone to a part of
the core constituency by allowing a female VP on the ticket.
(Remember gender attitudes were a little more backward 24 years ago)
SImilarly the Repubs know part of their core consituency, the
religious right, is splintering from them, so they are throwing them a
bone to shore up thier support for future elections they have a chance
of winning.
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The religious right has an almost infinite capacity for BS
absorption. They have been played like a cheap violin by the GOP for
decades and their none the wiser. Examples are many, a few include
the GOP doing nothing about an abortion amendment while it controlled
Congress and they couldn't get an anti-gay marriage amendment out of
committee.
Just toss a bone to the rabid right and the GOP gets all the votes it
needs.
JohnN
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18 Jan 2008 04:06:52 PM |
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JohnN <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The religious right has an almost infinite capacity for BS
absorption. =A0They have been played like a cheap violin
by the GOP for decades and their none the wiser.
=A0Examples are many, a few include the GOP doing
nothing about an abortion amendment while it controlled
Congress and they couldn't get an anti-gay marriage
amendment out of committee.
They got the constitution partially shredded, with their
"Faith Based" funding...
They got tens of millions of dollars flowing into their pockets
for their "Abstinance Only" programs, when they got their
programs placed in many puplic schools.
They got some medieval ***** overseeing things like birth
control.
Let's see, for AIDS Bush placed homophobes in the "Office
of National AIDS Policy," then declared war on condoms:
http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/bushs-war-on-the-condom/3348/
See, the religious Reich WANTS there to be consequences to
sex outside of marriage, or gay sex, so they have to get rid of
condoms. How else can people experience God's love through
AIDS, over population & teen pregnancy?
Bush also nullified Clinton's Executive Order banning discrimination
on the basis of sexual orientation.
And, yeah, they got lots & lots of lunatic judges placed on the
bench, including two Supreme Court justices.
Just toss a bone to the rabid right and the GOP gets all the votes it
needs.
JohnN- Hide quoted text -
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| User: "Syd M." |
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18 Jan 2008 12:36:29 PM |
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On Jan 18, 8:48=A0am, Amanda Williams <p...@fu.com> wrote:
"The Countess" <count...@notyourmama.com> allegedly said in news:4790a3fc$=
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$4984$4c368...@roadrunner.com:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
We can only hope....
I would just love watching the hapless GOP commit political suicide.
Chickens coming home to roost... springs to mind, they have been using the=
religious whack-jobs as vote fodder for the last 25 years, now it's maybe
going to bite them... great fun...
<snicker>
--
AW
<small but dangerous>
Yeah, but in the meantime, it's gonna do a hell of a lot of harm to us
unbelievers as well.
As well as other religions, non-xtiars, ect...
It's gonna be bad, is all I'm saying.
PDW
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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18 Jan 2008 10:44:56 AM |
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"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote in message
news:4790a3fc$0$4984$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
If so, let the Wisconsin Primary be his 'Waterloo'!
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
Believe it or not I *am* living under conditions that could rightfully be
called a 'mini-theocracy' out here in Marinette County, Wisconsin presently.
Being treated just like what I imagine *most* non-Christians would be
treated in a Dominionist-Christian America. And let me tell you: It ain't
pretty.
Greywolf
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| User: "Friendly Xenu" |
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18 Jan 2008 09:14:18 PM |
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"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
Breaking news: We're already there, dude.
---
When you're a Scientologist, and you drive by an accident, you know
you have to do something about it, because you know you're the only
one who can really help. -- Heterosexual Tom Cruise describing his
magic powers (Member of The North American Man Dwarf Love Association?)
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| User: "The Countess" |
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18 Jan 2008 10:23:44 PM |
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"Friendly Xenu" <Xenu@aol.COM> wrote in message
news:13p2qjctliqao1c@corp.supernews.com...
"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
Breaking news: We're already there, dude.
Dude?
guess again.
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| User: "DeserTBoB" |
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18 Jan 2008 11:24:37 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:05:12 -0500, "The Countess"
<countess@notyourmama.com> wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States. <snip>
Huckabee's implosions over the last week or so have punctured him
mortally. Snap polling shows now that he'll lose South Carolina to
McCain, probably coming in third or worse.
The American people have had quite enough of the church nutters, who
have been waging their "Christian talibaner" war against free society
since the Southern Baptists' roll out of "Campus Crusade For Christ"
in the '70s to foray brainwashed kids upon the landscape.
Our long, national nightmare is almost over, to paraphrase Gerry Ford.
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| User: "leo sgouros" |
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18 Jan 2008 07:13:34 AM |
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On Jan 18, 7:05 am, "The Countess" <count...@notyourmama.com> wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
Just watch christians try to agree what gods word really is.You can
bet the constitution would be changed as soon as there is one
christian church or hell freezes over :-)
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| User: "Bill Dukenfield" |
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18 Jan 2008 10:38:49 AM |
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The Countess wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
Even if he did win he would not have the authority to change the
Constitution.
JAM
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| User: "David Hartung" |
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18 Jan 2008 08:22:13 AM |
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The Countess wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
1. I didn't see or hear the direct quote, but as a former governor Mr.
Huckabee understands that the Constitution is not something which he can
just change. A Constitutional change would require the support of a
large portion of our nation. In other words, Huckabee may wish to see
our Constitution more inline with God's law, but he can't make it happen
without the support of the people.
2. As written, our Constitution is, pretty much, in line with God's law,
or have you never looked at the Ten Commandments? If you will, you will
find that they are a good foundation for a societal code. For the
uninitiated here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods
2. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
3. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
4. Honor your father and mother
5. You shall not murder.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not commit false testimony against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his donkey, or
anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Granted, the first three Commandments are explicitly religious in
nature, and would be recognized only by those of us who confess the Lord
God, but the last 7 are basic societal rules, and I believe that our
Constitution is much in line with them.
3. Any thinking Christian would, or should, oppose a theocracy.
Throughout the history of the Christian Church, when the Church gets in
bed with the secular government, it is always a spiritual disaster. Our
government ultimately works best, and the Church is ultimately better
off, if each has its own responsibilities, and are essentially separate.
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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18 Jan 2008 10:37:36 AM |
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"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:EICdnSkQbN2PKw3anZ2dnUVZ_tqtnZ2d@comcast.com...
The Countess wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
1. I didn't see or hear the direct quote, but as a former governor Mr.
Huckabee understands that the Constitution is not something which he can
just change. A Constitutional change would require the support of a large
portion of our nation. In other words, Huckabee may wish to see our
Constitution more inline with God's law, but he can't make it happen
without the support of the people.
2. As written, our Constitution is, pretty much, in line with God's law,
or have you never looked at the Ten Commandments? If you will, you will
find that they are a good foundation for a societal code. For the
uninitiated here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods
2. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
3. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
4. Honor your father and mother
5. You shall not murder.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not commit false testimony against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his donkey, or anything
that belongs to your neighbor.
Granted, the first three Commandments are explicitly religious in nature,
and would be recognized only by those of us who confess the Lord God, but
the last 7 are basic societal rules, and I believe that our Constitution
is much in line with them.
3. Any thinking Christian would, or should, oppose a theocracy. Throughout
the history of the Christian Church, when the Church gets in bed with the
secular government, it is always a spiritual disaster. Our government
ultimately works best, and the Church is ultimately better off, if each
has its own responsibilities, and are essentially separate.
Hear hear!
Greywolf
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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19 Jan 2008 11:10:10 AM |
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David Hartung <dhartung@none.net> wrote:
1. You shall have no other Gods
Non-compete agreement, commonly required when starting a new job.
2. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
Preserving brand identity, so employees don't use "Photoshop" as a verb.
3. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
Regular work hours are expected of employees, work days are holy days.
4. Honor your father and mother
And by "father and mother", we mean "your bosses".
5. You shall not murder.
It's bad for business.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
Office romances are strongly discouraged.
7. You shall not steal.
Grounds for immediate dismissal.
8. You shall not commit false testimony against your neighbor.
Refer all disputes to your manager or the human resources dept.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
Only managers are entitled to window offices.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his donkey, or
anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Yes, the boss drives a Porsche and you would really love to have one
too. You can't.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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18 Jan 2008 12:45:45 PM |
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David Hartung wrote:
The Countess wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution
in "God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
1. I didn't see or hear the direct quote, but as a former governor Mr.
Huckabee understands that the Constitution is not something which he
can just change. A Constitutional change would require the support of
a large portion of our nation. In other words, Huckabee may wish to
see our Constitution more inline with God's law, but he can't make it
happen without the support of the people.
2. As written, our Constitution is, pretty much, in line with God's
law, or have you never looked at the Ten Commandments? If you will,
you will find that they are a good foundation for a societal code.
For the uninitiated here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods
You left out the important part.
2. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
3. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
4. Honor your father and mother
So you can live a long time and have land. Therefore when a child dies it
didn't honor it's parents and how much land do you have?
5. You shall not murder.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not commit false testimony against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his donkey, or
anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Granted, the first three Commandments are explicitly religious in
nature, and would be recognized only by those of us who confess the
Lord God, but the last 7 are basic societal rules, and I believe that
our Constitution is much in line with them.
They were nothing new when they were written.
3. Any thinking Christian would, or should, oppose a theocracy.
Throughout the history of the Christian Church, when the Church gets
in bed with the secular government, it is always a spiritual
disaster. Our government ultimately works best, and the Church is
ultimately better off, if each has its own responsibilities, and are
essentially separate.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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18 Jan 2008 01:56:38 PM |
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David Hartung wrote:
The Countess wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
1. I didn't see or hear the direct quote, but as a former governor Mr.
Huckabee understands that the Constitution is not something which he can
just change. A Constitutional change would require the support of a
large portion of our nation. In other words, Huckabee may wish to see
our Constitution more inline with God's law, but he can't make it happen
without the support of the people.
2. As written, our Constitution is, pretty much, in line with God's law,
or have you never looked at the Ten Commandments? If you will, you will
find that they are a good foundation for a societal code. For the
uninitiated here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods
2. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
3. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
4. Honor your father and mother
5. You shall not murder.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not commit false testimony against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his donkey,
or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Hmmmm, I'm sorry, but that's not the ten commandments according to the
bible.
The list of "The Ten Commandments", as the Hebrew god told Moses to
write is here:
Exodus 34
Those 35 verses, particularly verse 28, are the ten commandments.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "David Hartung" |
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18 Jan 2008 08:56:28 PM |
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
The Countess wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution
in "God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
1. I didn't see or hear the direct quote, but as a former governor Mr.
Huckabee understands that the Constitution is not something which he
can just change. A Constitutional change would require the support of
a large portion of our nation. In other words, Huckabee may wish to
see our Constitution more inline with God's law, but he can't make it
happen without the support of the people.
2. As written, our Constitution is, pretty much, in line with God's
law, or have you never looked at the Ten Commandments? If you will,
you will find that they are a good foundation for a societal code. For
the uninitiated here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods
2. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
3. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
4. Honor your father and mother
5. You shall not murder.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not commit false testimony against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his donkey,
or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Hmmmm, I'm sorry, but that's not the ten commandments according to the
bible.
The list of "The Ten Commandments", as the Hebrew god told Moses to
write is here:
Exodus 34
Those 35 verses, particularly verse 28, are the ten commandments.
Exodus 20.
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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18 Jan 2008 09:23:43 PM |
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David Hartung <dhartung@none.net> wrote in news:xs6dnZSfQ_ZL-
wzanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com:
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
The Countess wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution
in "God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
1. I didn't see or hear the direct quote, but as a former governor Mr.
Huckabee understands that the Constitution is not something which he
can just change. A Constitutional change would require the support of
a large portion of our nation. In other words, Huckabee may wish to
see our Constitution more inline with God's law, but he can't make it
happen without the support of the people.
2. As written, our Constitution is, pretty much, in line with God's
law, or have you never looked at the Ten Commandments? If you will,
you will find that they are a good foundation for a societal code. For
the uninitiated here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods
2. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
3. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
4. Honor your father and mother
5. You shall not murder.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not commit false testimony against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his donkey,
or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Hmmmm, I'm sorry, but that's not the ten commandments according to the
bible.
The list of "The Ten Commandments", as the Hebrew god told Moses to
write is here:
Exodus 34
Those 35 verses, particularly verse 28, are the ten commandments.
Exodus 20.
Exodus 35
"For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day
shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD .
Whoever does any work on it must be put to death."
Exodus 35:2.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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18 Jan 2008 09:15:31 PM |
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David Hartung wrote:
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
The Countess wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution
in "God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
1. I didn't see or hear the direct quote, but as a former governor
Mr. Huckabee understands that the Constitution is not something which
he can just change. A Constitutional change would require the support
of a large portion of our nation. In other words, Huckabee may wish
to see our Constitution more inline with God's law, but he can't make
it happen without the support of the people.
2. As written, our Constitution is, pretty much, in line with God's
law, or have you never looked at the Ten Commandments? If you will,
you will find that they are a good foundation for a societal code.
For the uninitiated here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods
2. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
3. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
4. Honor your father and mother
5. You shall not murder.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not commit false testimony against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his donkey,
or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Hmmmm, I'm sorry, but that's not the ten commandments according to the
bible.
The list of "The Ten Commandments", as the Hebrew god told Moses to
write is here:
Exodus 34
Those 35 verses, particularly verse 28, are the ten commandments.
Exodus 20.
Hmmm, nope, sorry. Nothing there that says "The Ten Commandments"
Exodus 34:28 clearly says, "The Ten Commandments"
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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18 Jan 2008 12:59:49 PM |
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In article <EICdnSkQbN2PKw3anZ2dnUVZ_tqtnZ2d@comcast.com>, David
Hartung <dhartung@none.net> wrote:
Granted, the first three Commandments are explicitly religious in
nature, and would be recognized only by those of us who confess the Lord
God, but the last 7 are basic societal rules, and I believe that our
Constitution is much in line with them.
The United States Constitution says nothing about parental honor,
murder, adultery, theft, perjury or covetousness.
You might want to whip your copy out and take a look at it someday.
-chib
--
Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
18 Jan 2008 06:48:05 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:22:13 -0600, David Hartung <dhartung@none.net>
wrote:
The Countess wrote:
If Huckabee gets elected he has promised to change the constitution in
"God's" word.
just imagine living in a theocracy called The United States.
1. I didn't see or hear the direct quote, but as a former governor Mr.
Huckabee understands that the Constitution is not something which he can
just change. A Constitutional change would require the support of a
large portion of our nation. In other words, Huckabee may wish to see
our Constitution more inline with God's law, but he can't make it happen
without the support of the people.
Granted, but it plays really well with the fundies on the campaign
stump.
2. As written, our Constitution is, pretty much, in line with God's law,
or have you never looked at the Ten Commandments? If you will, you will
find that they are a good foundation for a societal code. For the
uninitiated here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods
2. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
3. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
4. Honor your father and mother
5. You shall not murder.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not commit false testimony against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his donkey, or
anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Granted, the first three Commandments are explicitly religious in
nature, and would be recognized only by those of us who confess the Lord
God, but the last 7 are basic societal rules, and I believe that our
Constitution is much in line with them.
I heard an interview with Mike Huckabee this morning. He didn't seem
too worried about the Big Ten. What he seemed to have in mind were
amendments outlawing abortion and any type of gay union (hush now on
the M word where referring to homosexuals). John Roberts wasn't sure
what to make of the whole issue. He seemed disconcerted. Roberts
asked Huckabee if he didn't think that the Bible and the Constitution
should be separate issues, Huckabee answered that Roberts was not
understanding him. The Constitution was meant to be changed because
the FF design a method for amendment. God's word could never be
changed. Therefore, he rambled on about how the Constitution should
be amended to align with God's law by protecting all human life.
Roberts just said, "Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining us this
morning."
Luckily, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected.
Liz #658 BAAWA
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| User: "The Countess" |
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18 Jan 2008 10:22:47 PM |
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"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:dih2p3dfh8ushf22jdlkuelq3tdnje7oqk@4ax.com...
Roberts just said, "Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining us this
morning."
Luckily, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected.
and that's what I said back in 2000 in regards to Dubya.
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| User: "Obama-Richardson in 08" |
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18 Jan 2008 11:08:52 PM |
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"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote in message
news:47917b0c$0$30708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:dih2p3dfh8ushf22jdlkuelq3tdnje7oqk@4ax.com...
Roberts just said, "Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining us this
morning."
Luckily, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected.
and that's what I said back in 2000 in regards to Dubya.
Agreed. Never underestimate the power of fanatics, especially when they
team up with those who have no scruples, like Karl Rove. Fanaticism plus
fascism makes for a powerful, albeit evil, combination.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
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| User: "David Hartung" |
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| Title: Re: Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
19 Jan 2008 07:17:23 AM |
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Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote in message
news:47917b0c$0$30708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:dih2p3dfh8ushf22jdlkuelq3tdnje7oqk@4ax.com...
Roberts just said, "Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining us this
morning."
Luckily, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected.
and that's what I said back in 2000 in regards to Dubya.
Agreed. Never underestimate the power of fanatics, especially when they
team up with those who have no scruples, like Karl Rove. Fanaticism plus
fascism makes for a powerful, albeit evil, combination.
Now you are talking about Hillary.
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| User: "Obama-Richardson in 08" |
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| Title: Re: Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
19 Jan 2008 10:00:34 AM |
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"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:M6udnSKQfrXGZQzanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote in message
news:47917b0c$0$30708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:dih2p3dfh8ushf22jdlkuelq3tdnje7oqk@4ax.com...
Roberts just said, "Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining us this
morning."
Luckily, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected.
and that's what I said back in 2000 in regards to Dubya.
Agreed. Never underestimate the power of fanatics, especially when they
team up with those who have no scruples, like Karl Rove. Fanaticism
plus
fascism makes for a powerful, albeit evil, combination.
Now you are talking about Hillary.
I don't particularly care for Hillary, but neither of those particular
traits are part of her questionable makeup. They more aptly describe George
W. Bush, Mike Huckabee and to a lesser degree the various other Republican
candidates.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
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| User: "David Hartung" |
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| Title: Re: Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
19 Jan 2008 11:43:40 AM |
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Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:M6udnSKQfrXGZQzanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote in message
news:47917b0c$0$30708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:dih2p3dfh8ushf22jdlkuelq3tdnje7oqk@4ax.com...
Roberts just said, "Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining us this
morning."
Luckily, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected.
and that's what I said back in 2000 in regards to Dubya.
Agreed. Never underestimate the power of fanatics, especially when they
team up with those who have no scruples, like Karl Rove. Fanaticism
plus
fascism makes for a powerful, albeit evil, combination.
Now you are talking about Hillary.
I don't particularly care for Hillary, but neither of those particular
traits are part of her questionable makeup. They more aptly describe George
W. Bush, Mike Huckabee and to a lesser degree the various other Republican
candidates.
Thus you demonstrate your partisanship. Bush and his administration are
far from the best we have ever had, but they have demonstrated a level
of honesty, integrity and overall competence far above that of his
predecessor. In case you have forgotten it, Hillary was a large part of
her husband's administration.
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| User: "Obama-Richardson in 08" |
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| Title: Re: Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
19 Jan 2008 07:19:34 PM |
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"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:2_idnWgTIcJQqw_anZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com...
Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:M6udnSKQfrXGZQzanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote in message
news:47917b0c$0$30708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:dih2p3dfh8ushf22jdlkuelq3tdnje7oqk@4ax.com...
Roberts just said, "Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining us
this
morning."
Luckily, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected.
and that's what I said back in 2000 in regards to Dubya.
Agreed. Never underestimate the power of fanatics, especially when
they
team up with those who have no scruples, like Karl Rove. Fanaticism
plus
fascism makes for a powerful, albeit evil, combination.
Now you are talking about Hillary.
I don't particularly care for Hillary, but neither of those particular
traits are part of her questionable makeup. They more aptly describe
George
W. Bush, Mike Huckabee and to a lesser degree the various other
Republican
candidates.
Thus you demonstrate your partisanship. Bush and his administration are
far from the best we have ever had, but they have demonstrated a level
of honesty, integrity and overall competence far above that of his
predecessor. In case you have forgotten it, Hillary was a large part of
her husband's administration.
Normally, I respect everyone's right to their own opinion, as much as I may
disagree with it. However, when someone says that Bush and his
administration "have demonstrated a level of honesty, integrity and overall
competence far above that of " Clinton, I have to question their
intelligence, sanity or both. Where have you been getting your information?
Clinton lied to the American people about getting a *****, and the right
crucified him for it. Bush lied about Saddam's capabilities and intentions
to attack us to persuade the American people and Congress to back him in a
war that was likely no more than a personal vendetta, and has cost us over a
trillion dollars, the lives of thousands of our brave men and women in
uniform and diverted vital resources from the search for the real villain,
Osama bin Laden. Key members of his administration deliberately "outed" a
covert CIA agent, ruining her career and jeopardizing the lives of some two
dozen other agents who were working with her for no reason other than to
exact political revenge on her husband for calling their deceptions for what
they were . . . blatant lies. And this administration has been filled with
political appointees who had absolutely no credentials for doing the jobs
they were appointed to do, other than the fact that they were campaign
donors or had graduated from a right-wing Christian college that barely
meets accreditation standards on its best days. And both of Bush's election
to office are clouded with suspicion of election fraud on a scale not seen
in this country since the days of Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
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| User: "David Hartung" |
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| Title: Re: Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
19 Jan 2008 10:16:25 PM |
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Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:2_idnWgTIcJQqw_anZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com...
Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:M6udnSKQfrXGZQzanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote in message
news:47917b0c$0$30708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:dih2p3dfh8ushf22jdlkuelq3tdnje7oqk@4ax.com...
Roberts just said, "Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining us
this
morning."
Luckily, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected.
and that's what I said back in 2000 in regards to Dubya.
Agreed. Never underestimate the power of fanatics, especially when
they
team up with those who have no scruples, like Karl Rove. Fanaticism
plus
fascism makes for a powerful, albeit evil, combination.
Now you are talking about Hillary.
I don't particularly care for Hillary, but neither of those particular
traits are part of her questionable makeup. They more aptly describe
George
W. Bush, Mike Huckabee and to a lesser degree the various other
Republican
candidates.
Thus you demonstrate your partisanship. Bush and his administration are
far from the best we have ever had, but they have demonstrated a level
of honesty, integrity and overall competence far above that of his
predecessor. In case you have forgotten it, Hillary was a large part of
her husband's administration.
Normally, I respect everyone's right to their own opinion, as much as I may
disagree with it. However, when someone says that Bush and his
administration "have demonstrated a level of honesty, integrity and overall
competence far above that of " Clinton, I have to question their
intelligence, sanity or both. Where have you been getting your information?
Clinton lied to the American people about getting a *****, and the right
crucified him for it. Bush lied about Saddam's capabilities and intentions
to attack us to persuade the American people and Congress to back him in a
war that was likely no more than a personal vendetta, and has cost us over a
trillion dollars, the lives of thousands of our brave men and women in
uniform and diverted vital resources from the search for the real villain,
Osama bin Laden. Key members of his administration deliberately "outed" a
covert CIA agent, ruining her career and jeopardizing the lives of some two
dozen other agents who were working with her for no reason other than to
exact political revenge on her husband for calling their deceptions for what
they were . . . blatant lies. And this administration has been filled with
political appointees who had absolutely no credentials for doing the jobs
they were appointed to do, other than the fact that they were campaign
donors or had graduated from a right-wing Christian college that barely
meets accreditation standards on its best days. And both of Bush's election
to office are clouded with suspicion of election fraud on a scale not seen
in this country since the days of Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall.
You know, the sheer ignorance displayed in the above post must be
deliberate.
None of your claims are factual, all are partisan lies.
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| User: "Obama-Richardson in 08" |
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| Title: Re: Will Theocrat Huckabee win South Carolina? |
20 Jan 2008 09:31:00 AM |
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"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:5-idnSAbuaCEVg_anZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:2_idnWgTIcJQqw_anZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com...
Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"David Hartung" <dhartung@none.net> wrote in message
news:M6udnSKQfrXGZQzanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Obama-Richardson in 08 wrote:
"The Countess" <countess@notyourmama.com> wrote in message
news:47917b0c$0$30708$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:dih2p3dfh8ushf22jdlkuelq3tdnje7oqk@4ax.com...
Roberts just said, "Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining us
this
morning."
Luckily, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being elected.
and that's what I said back in 2000 in regards to Dubya.
Agreed. Never underestimate the power of fanatics, especially when
they
team up with those who have no scruples, like Karl Rove. Fanaticism
plus
fascism makes for a powerful, albeit evil, combination.
Now you are talking about Hillary.
I don't particularly care for Hillary, but neither of those particular
traits are part of her questionable makeup. They more aptly describe
George
W. Bush, Mike Huckabee and to a lesser degree the various other
Republican
candidates.
Thus you demonstrate your partisanship. Bush and his administration are
far from the best we have ever had, but they have demonstrated a level
of honesty, integrity and overall competence far above that of his
predecessor. In case you have forgotten it, Hillary was a large part of
her husband's administration.
Normally, I respect everyone's right to their own opinion, as much as I
may
disagree with it. However, when someone says that Bush and his
administration "have demonstrated a level of honesty, integrity and
overall
competence far above that of " Clinton, I have to question their
intelligence, sanity or both. Where have you been getting your
information?
Clinton lied to the American people about getting a *****, and the
right
crucified him for it. Bush lied about Saddam's capabilities and
intentions
to attack us to persuade the American people and Congress to back him in
a
war that was likely no more than a personal vendetta, and has cost us
over a
trillion dollars, the lives of thousands of our brave men and women in
uniform and diverted vital resources from the search for the real
villain,
Osama bin Laden. Key members of his administration deliberately "outed"
a
covert CIA agent, ruining her career and jeopardizing the lives of some
two
dozen other agents who were working with her for no reason other than to
exact political revenge on her husband for calling their deceptions for
what
they were . . . blatant lies. And this administration has been filled
with
political appointees who had absolutely no credentials for doing the
jobs
they were appointed to do, other than the fact that they were campaign
donors or had graduated from a right-wing Christian college that barely
meets accreditation standards on its best days. And both of Bush's
election
to office are clouded with suspicion of election fraud on a scale not
seen
in this country since the days of Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall.
You know, the sheer ignorance displayed in the above post must be
deliberate.
None of your claims are factual, all are partisan lies.
In other words, you never heard about any of this on Fox News, therefore it
never happened. It must be so nice to be able to stick your head in the
sand like an ostrich while your party tries to systematically destroy our
country and everything it stands for.
--
I'm not really anti-Bush . . . I'm really just anti-stupid.
I support the right of all Americans to arm bears.
The only Bush I trust is my wife's.
.
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