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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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20 Feb 2005 09:48:32 PM |
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WILLIAMS: "Insider" is not a word you use right now. |
http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/
Joe Biden (D-DE), Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee:
Senate and House Judiciary Committees Should Investigate Gannongate
Immediately
The Guardian [UK] Says That a Scandal Similar to Gannongate, Involving a
Democratic Administration, Would "Threaten a Democratic Presidency"
By ADVOCATE STAFF
[The following is a rush partial transcript of a conversation between
Joe Biden (D-DE), Democratic Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee, and Bill Maher, host of the television show "Real Time with
Bill Maher." Robin Williams, the well-known actor and comedian, was also
present during the interview].
MAHER: Lord knows I get no joy out of saying the White House has ties to
gay prostitution. Alright, I guess I get a little joy out of it. But let
me ask, seriously...
ROBIN WILLIAMS [knocking the table in front of him and assuming a fake
voice]: "Karl, are you awake? Karl, open the door!" "Who is it?"
MAHER: I mean, now, we have two Washington insiders from either party
here...
WILLIAMS: "Insider" is not a word you use right now.
MAHER: I want to just ask this question. If this was the Clinton White
House and this story broke, tell me an angry mob with torches would not
be involved. Why do the Republicans get a pass on this stuff, when you
know this is impeachable with the other party?
BIDEN: The press. The bottom line is that, why isn't every major network
in the country investigating a security breach? Forget anything else.
How could the F.B.I....seventeen years I was Chairman of the Judiciary
Committee and the Ranking Member, I read more F.B.I. reports than I ever
wanted to know. How could that happen and no one have any idea who this
guy was? Forget everything else, assume he went in there and he was a
saint. How could that be? We should know that.
There should be, the Judiciary Committee of the United States Senate
should be investigating it, the House Judiciary Committee should be
investigating it. And if it were the other party in charge, it would be
investigated.
MAHER: Sounds like you have your work cut out for you when you get back
to Washington.
BIDEN: But by the way, one of the problems with there being not a single
fora available, is that you can't call a hearing. I can't--I'm on the
Judiciary Committee, I can't go back and call a hearing. Only the
Chairman of the Committee can call a hearing.
.....
MAHER: How much was Whitewater, a hundred grand? Clinton got a haircut,
that was a big issue? It's amazing, the way the Republicans can make
something out of nothing, and the Democrats can't make anything out of
something.
[The following is a rush partial transcript of a conversation between
the Emmy Award-winning co-editor of CBS's "60 Minutes," Lesley Stahl,
and Bill Maher, host of the television show "Real Time with Bill
Maher"].
STAHL: I do not understand, having covered the White House for as long
as I did, how he [Gannon] got, I just don't get it, how he got a press
pass on a false name, on an alias, I don't know how that happened. You
have to be cleared through the Secret Service in order to get a press
pass, which you have to wear at all times. I mean, there's something
behind this story which hasn't come out, clearly. My God!
MAHER: I'm going to suggest what that is. Because not only did he have a
press pass, but apparently he got scoops that other reporters didn't
get. He got the one before anybody else had it on your boy Dan Rather
when he got in trouble with the Swift Boat [Veterans for Truth]
reporting. He got the story on the attack of Baghdad when we started the
[Iraqi] War in March of 2003--four hours before anybody else got it.
Now, I don't want to start rumors here, but isn't it sort of obvious
that he had a boyfriend in the White House?
Somebody at the highest level was spilling the beans while he was
"spilling the beans."
STAHL: How did he get a Secret Service press pass? How did that happen?
Okay, someone leaked stories, and of course we won't have an
investigation of that, will we? But, how did he get a Secret Service
press pass? With an alias? I mean, really, I cannot figure it out.
MAHER: Well, what do you think of my suggestion?
STAHL: Well, I'm saying, once he got into the White House, fine, someone
was leaking him stories, but let's -- I'm asking, how he gets through
the F.B.I. clearance and the Secret Service? How does that happen?
MAHER: Well, I think there was a mole in the White House...or maybe a
gerbil.
[END PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT. VIDEO AVAILABLE HERE].
The Advocate can't help but wonder whether the above comments from Biden
and Stahl signal a commitment from the political and media establishment
to follow up on the Gannongate story.
That said, the message from Biden to the media is clear: the Democratic
Party can't build up the momentum it needs to have this issue heard in
the halls of Congress if the media doesn't give Gannongate the coverage
it so richly deserves as (to use Biden's characterization) a "security
breach."
Indeed.
Fortunately, Raw Story is already reporting that The New Yorker and "a
broad array of mainstream publications and television networks are
aggressively pursuing various angles of the burgeoning scandal
surrounding discredited White House reporter Jeff Gannon."
The Guardian [UK] has already made some decent headway on this front,
asserting that
[i]f, during the Clinton administration, a fake reporter from a
Democratic front organisation, using a false name, had been exposed as
attending White House press conferences, it would have been a national
scandal.
If he had then been shown to be a gay prostitute, the scandal could have
threatened a Democratic presidency.
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Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
Scientology murder: http://PerkinsTragedy.org
"And I sure wouldn't bet a damn buck that Bush's two
girls haven't done their fair share of carpet cleaning!" - AB
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: WILLIAMS: "Insider" is not a word you use right now. |
21 Feb 2005 12:16:48 AM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:111imipbm680l4d@corp.supernews.com...
http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/
Joe Biden (D-DE), Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee:
Senate and House Judiciary Committees Should Investigate Gannongate
Immediately
The Guardian [UK] Says That a Scandal Similar to Gannongate, Involving a
Democratic Administration, Would "Threaten a Democratic Presidency"
By ADVOCATE STAFF
[The following is a rush partial transcript of a conversation between
Joe Biden (D-DE), Democratic Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee, and Bill Maher, host of the television show "Real Time with
Bill Maher." Robin Williams, the well-known actor and comedian, was also
present during the interview].
MAHER: Lord knows I get no joy out of saying the White House has ties to
gay prostitution. Alright, I guess I get a little joy out of it. But let
me ask, seriously...
ROBIN WILLIAMS [knocking the table in front of him and assuming a fake
voice]: "Karl, are you awake? Karl, open the door!" "Who is it?"
MAHER: I mean, now, we have two Washington insiders from either party
here...
WILLIAMS: "Insider" is not a word you use right now.
MAHER: I want to just ask this question. If this was the Clinton White
House and this story broke, tell me an angry mob with torches would not
be involved. Why do the Republicans get a pass on this stuff, when you
know this is impeachable with the other party?
BIDEN: The press. The bottom line is that, why isn't every major network
in the country investigating a security breach? Forget anything else.
How could the F.B.I....seventeen years I was Chairman of the Judiciary
Committee and the Ranking Member, I read more F.B.I. reports than I ever
wanted to know. How could that happen and no one have any idea who this
guy was? Forget everything else, assume he went in there and he was a
saint. How could that be? We should know that.
There should be, the Judiciary Committee of the United States Senate
should be investigating it, the House Judiciary Committee should be
investigating it. And if it were the other party in charge, it would be
investigated.
MAHER: Sounds like you have your work cut out for you when you get back
to Washington.
BIDEN: But by the way, one of the problems with there being not a single
fora available, is that you can't call a hearing. I can't--I'm on the
Judiciary Committee, I can't go back and call a hearing. Only the
Chairman of the Committee can call a hearing.
....
MAHER: How much was Whitewater, a hundred grand? Clinton got a haircut,
that was a big issue? It's amazing, the way the Republicans can make
something out of nothing, and the Democrats can't make anything out of
something.
[The following is a rush partial transcript of a conversation between
the Emmy Award-winning co-editor of CBS's "60 Minutes," Lesley Stahl,
and Bill Maher, host of the television show "Real Time with Bill
Maher"].
STAHL: I do not understand, having covered the White House for as long
as I did, how he [Gannon] got, I just don't get it, how he got a press
pass on a false name, on an alias, I don't know how that happened. You
have to be cleared through the Secret Service in order to get a press
pass, which you have to wear at all times. I mean, there's something
behind this story which hasn't come out, clearly. My God!
MAHER: I'm going to suggest what that is. Because not only did he have a
press pass, but apparently he got scoops that other reporters didn't
get. He got the one before anybody else had it on your boy Dan Rather
when he got in trouble with the Swift Boat [Veterans for Truth]
reporting. He got the story on the attack of Baghdad when we started the
[Iraqi] War in March of 2003--four hours before anybody else got it.
Now, I don't want to start rumors here, but isn't it sort of obvious
that he had a boyfriend in the White House?
Somebody at the highest level was spilling the beans while he was
"spilling the beans."
STAHL: How did he get a Secret Service press pass? How did that happen?
Okay, someone leaked stories, and of course we won't have an
investigation of that, will we? But, how did he get a Secret Service
press pass? With an alias? I mean, really, I cannot figure it out.
MAHER: Well, what do you think of my suggestion?
STAHL: Well, I'm saying, once he got into the White House, fine, someone
was leaking him stories, but let's -- I'm asking, how he gets through
the F.B.I. clearance and the Secret Service? How does that happen?
MAHER: Well, I think there was a mole in the White House...or maybe a
gerbil.
[END PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT. VIDEO AVAILABLE HERE].
The Advocate can't help but wonder whether the above comments from Biden
and Stahl signal a commitment from the political and media establishment
to follow up on the Gannongate story.
That said, the message from Biden to the media is clear: the Democratic
Party can't build up the momentum it needs to have this issue heard in
the halls of Congress if the media doesn't give Gannongate the coverage
it so richly deserves as (to use Biden's characterization) a "security
breach."
Indeed.
Fortunately, Raw Story is already reporting that The New Yorker and "a
broad array of mainstream publications and television networks are
aggressively pursuing various angles of the burgeoning scandal
surrounding discredited White House reporter Jeff Gannon."
The Guardian [UK] has already made some decent headway on this front,
asserting that
[i]f, during the Clinton administration, a fake reporter from a
Democratic front organisation, using a false name, had been exposed as
attending White House press conferences, it would have been a national
scandal.
If he had then been shown to be a gay prostitute, the scandal could have
threatened a Democratic presidency.
At last. It starts...
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Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
Scientology murder: http://PerkinsTragedy.org
"And I sure wouldn't bet a damn buck that Bush's two
girls haven't done their fair share of carpet cleaning!" - AB
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| User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot" |
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| Title: Re: WILLIAMS: "Insider" is not a word you use right now. |
21 Feb 2005 10:00:24 AM |
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 03:48:32 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/
[....]
MAHER: Well, I think there was a mole in the White House...or maybe a
gerbil.
LOL!
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"Well, I think there was a mole in the White House... or maybe a gerbil."
(Bill Maher, speaking of the Republican male prostitute in the White House)
"The tragedy of modern war is not so much that the young men die but that
they die fighting each other -- instead of their real enemies back home
in the capitals." -- Edward Abbey
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: WILLIAMS: "Insider" is not a word you use right now. |
21 Feb 2005 10:52:12 AM |
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desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 03:48:32 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/
[....]
MAHER: Well, I think there was a mole in the White House...or maybe a gerbil.
LOL!
I didn't like that comment. Unamusing. <grin>
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http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.notserver.com/
Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
Scientology murder: http://PerkinsTragedy.org
"And I sure wouldn't bet a damn buck that Bush's two
girls haven't done their fair share of carpet cleaning!" - AB
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