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User: "hg"
Date: 22 Aug 2007 03:20:32 PM
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hi
Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
Who has made it?
Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!
Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!
It's you and the whole universe!..
Who has made them all ?!!
You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.
Just think for a moment.
How are you going to be after death ?!
Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!
Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
punishment?!
Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
It is religion of Islam.
It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet, had
been sent by.
It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has
preached.
Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
Don't be emstional.
Be rational and judge..
Just look..listen...compare..and then judge and say your word.
We advise you visiting :
http://www.islam-guide.com/
http://www.thetruereligion.org/
http://www.beconvinced.com/
http://www.plaintruth.org/
http://english.islamway.com/
http://www.todayislam.com/
http://www.prophetmuhammed.org/
http://www.islamtoday.net/english/
http://www.islamunveiled.org/
http://www.islamic-knowledge.com/
We willingly recive any inquries at the e-mail :
muslim5@hotmail.com
.

User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم 22 Aug 2007 04:16:19 PM
"hg" <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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hi


Excuse me!!

PLONK
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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User: "ike milligan"

Title: Re: بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم 23 Aug 2007 03:15:21 AM
"hg" <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187796032.784617.56100@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

hi


Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
Who has made it?
Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!

<plonk>
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم 24 Aug 2007 09:39:31 AM
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"hg" <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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hi


Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
Who has made it?
Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!


<plonk>

<<plonk>>
.


User: "johac"

Title: Re: »²آف«””ءف«”‹صآتف«”‹صحآ 23 Aug 2007 10:49:03 PM
In article <1187796032.784617.56100@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
hg <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote:

hi


Excuse me!!

No.

Would you stop for a moment?!

NO!
This is an atheist newsgroup. Nobody's interested. Take it someplace
else.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.

User: "Andy W"

Title: Re: 22 Aug 2007 09:26:38 PM
On 22 Aug, 16:20, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

hi

Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
Who has made it?

Oh dear, here we go again.
We have heard every single one of these arguments dozens if not
hundreds of times before, so they have zero credibility. But on the
other hand, you've got squiggles in the header, so you're actually
about 1000 times more credible already.

Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!
Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!

Of course not...

It's you and the whole universe!..
Who has made them all ?!!

And there's your next mistake, assuming that because some things have
designers and creators, all things must have them. It isn't so.

You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.

Even if you had demonstrated that there was a designer (and you
haven't) you still have no basis for this assertion.

Just think for a moment.
How are you going to be after death ?!
Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!

Yes, that is exactly what I believe, because that is what all the
evidence points to. Get over it.

Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
punishment?!

Ah, already with the intimidation attempts. However your threat is as
empty as a warning not to step on the cracks in the pavement because
the bears will get me. In fact it is not even that good, because bears
can be shown to exist.

Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!

You're making invalid assumptions yet again, that there actually is a
"right religion". Demonstrate that before asking which on it is.

Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
It is religion of Islam.

Unsupported assertion as an answer to an invalid question. Again.
Clearly you didn't "think deeply" before posting this unconvincing
nonsense.

It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet, had
been sent by.
It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has
preached.
Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
Don't be emstional.
Be rational and judge..
Just look..listen...compare..and then judge and say your word.

OK My word is: "bollocks".

We advise you visiting :http://www.islam-guide.com/http://www.thetruereligion.org/http://www.beconvinced.com/http://www.plaintruth.org/http://english.islamway.com/http://www.todayislam.com/http://www.prophetmuhammed.org/http://www.islamtoday.net/english/http://www.islamunveiled.org/http://www.islamic-knowledge.com/

And I advise you to look at www.talkorigins.org and try to take some
of it in. Take your time.
Andy
.

User: ""

Title: Re: 23 Aug 2007 11:54:41 PM
On Aug 22, 11:20 am, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

hi

not rite now im at work

Excuse me!!

Usually I don't comment about that, but what the hell have you been
eating? (someone open a window)

Would you stop for a moment?!

Depends. Is the light red, or green?

O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?

I think about myself every day.

Who has made it?

My pappy and my mammy.

Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!

No, but I *have* seen many things which weren't designed.

Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!

Yup. It's called Earth.

It's you and the whole universe!..
Who has made them all ?!!

No one. We're not really sure. There are some people trying to find
out, but they're usually held back by people who don't want to know.

You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.
Just think for a moment.

I think all the time. That's how I know it's not Allah (***** be upon
her)

How are you going to be after death ?!

Cremated. Those open casket funerals freak me out. And "..graveyards
and golf courses are the two greatest wastes of prime real estate in
the world!"
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/caddyshack/_group_photos/chevy_chase2.jpg

Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!

Yes.

Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
punishment?!

The ***** is not going to tell me what he wants from me, and then
plans to punish me for it? ***** him/her/it. I'll kill it.

Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!

They can't *all* be right....but they can certainly all be wrong.

Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
It is religion of Islam.

ROFL! These guys?
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&resnum=0&um=1&tab=in&ie=UTF-8&q=mosque+bombings
If you're not joking, you need therapy. Get help now.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
.

User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: 22 Aug 2007 06:52:02 PM
On Aug 22, 8:20 am, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

hi

Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
Who has made it?

Got any evidence that a god exists? When you do, get back to us.
Until then, kindly keep this crap out of alt.atheism. Proselytizing
is against our charter, and if you keep it up, we'll report you for
abuse.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.

User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: 02 Sep 2007 06:28:03 PM
On Aug 22, 8:20 am, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

hi

Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
Who has made it?
Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!

Well, well, if it isn't my old friend "hg." What, you're not taking
enough of a beating over on alt.support.childfree, you have to come
here and ask the regulars to mop the floors with your face?
We're atheists, hg. That means that we lack a belief in any god.
That includes yours.
What's more, proselytizing is specifically forbidden by the
alt.atheism charter. Keep this up, and you'll be reported to your ISP
for abuse.
Now kindly ***** and die.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.

User: "satyr"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 23 Aug 2007 03:44:17 AM
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:20:32 -0700, hg <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote:

You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.

Shouldn't you be blowing yourself up or something?
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 24 Aug 2007 09:55:04 AM
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:20:32 -0700, hg <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote:

hi


Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!

Stop thinking?
Never.
.
User: "hg"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 26 Aug 2007 05:04:27 PM

At this site answer to your questions
http://www.godallah.com/
Any further question.
Provided, however, left insults and curses. Such routes vulnerable
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 26 Aug 2007 06:12:18 PM
"hg" <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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At this site answer to your questions

Bugger off.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.
User: ""

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 26 Aug 2007 07:00:11 PM
At this site answer to your questions
http://www.godallah.com/
Any further question.
Provided, however, left insults and curses. Such routes vulnerable
Thank you brother on the site
.
User: "Frank Mayhar"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 26 Aug 2007 09:51:31 PM
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:00:11 -0700, hghgstdhkd wrote:

Any further question.

Yes. What part of "atheism" don't you understand, idiot?
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 27 Aug 2007 02:13:05 AM
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:51:31 -0700, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:00:11 -0700, hghgstdhkd wrote:

Any further question.


Yes. What part of "atheism" don't you understand, idiot?

It probably understands very little of anything at all.
.
User: "Frank Mayhar"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 27 Aug 2007 04:21:32 AM
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:43:05 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:51:31 -0700, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:00:11 -0700, hghgstdhkd wrote:

Any further question.


Yes. What part of "atheism" don't you understand, idiot?


It probably understands very little of anything at all.

It was a rhetorical question.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
.
User: "Steve"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 01 Sep 2007 10:48:31 PM

You can not say that the pen or computer or eyeglasses found From non
Creator Manufacture
How you want me to believe that the heavens and the earth, sun and
moon and planets rights and Jeddou From non Creator
.
User: "hg"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 02 Sep 2007 02:48:49 PM
On 2 , 01:48, Steve <hghgstd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You can not say that the pen or computer or eyeglasses found From non
Creator Manufacture

How you want me to believe that the heavens and the earth, sun and
moon and planets rights and Jeddou From non Creator

Steve, thank with all my heart to this wonderful response
.
User: ""

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 02 Sep 2007 06:30:59 PM
On Sep 2, 10:48 am, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 2 , 01:48, Steve <hghgstd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You can not say that the pen or computer or eyeglasses found From non
Creator Manufacture


How you want me to believe that the heavens and the earth, sun and
moon and planets rights and Jeddou From non Creator


Steve, thank with all my heart to this wonderful response

You never answered my question. Why do you idolize a thief and
pedophile (***** be upon him)?
-PF
.

User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 02 Sep 2007 06:47:35 PM
On Sep 2, 7:48 am, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 2 , 01:48, Steve <hghgstd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You can not say that the pen or computer or eyeglasses found From non
Creator Manufacture


How you want me to believe that the heavens and the earth, sun and
moon and planets rights and Jeddou From non Creator


Steve, thank with all my heart to this wonderful response

"Wonderful response"??? <ROFL> Steve's response not only was not
wonderful, it was idiotic, and quite easily refuted. He's an idiot,
and so are *you*.
I've observed the two of you doing this tag-team thing in other
newsgroups. Here's a hint for you: IT''S NOT WORKING.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.
User: "hg"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 03 Sep 2007 12:22:19 AM
Brenda Nelson You contradict yourself, you yourself said that you
react in one of the universe came from the great
explosion How now says that the universe is eternal.
Now you do not contradict yourself, but only contradict modern
science, which proves that the universe came from the
great explosion
Need thinking
.
User: "hg"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 03 Sep 2007 12:23:00 AM
Brenda Nelson You can not say that the pen or computer or eyeglasses
found From non Creator Manufacture
How you want me to believe that the heavens and the earth, sun and
moon and planets rights and Jeddou From non Creator
Thank
.
User: "Andy W"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 03 Sep 2007 10:04:27 PM
On 3 Sep, 01:23, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Brenda Nelson You can not say that the pen or computer or eyeglasses
found From non Creator Manufacture

How you want me to believe that the heavens and the earth, sun and
moon and planets rights and Jeddou From non Creator

Thank

Ooops, what happened there? Did you forget which sock you had on which
hand?
Andy
.

User: ""

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 03 Sep 2007 12:30:26 AM
On Sep 2, 8:23 pm, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Brenda Nelson You can not say that the pen or computer or eyeglasses
found From non Creator Manufacture

How you want me to believe that the heavens and the earth, sun and
moon and planets rights and Jeddou From non Creator

Thank

She already answered you.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/ed499094ad6d8ab7?dmode=source&hl=en
That's how.
-PF
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 03 Sep 2007 08:46:48 AM
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:23:00 -0700, hg <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote:

Brenda Nelson You can not say that the pen or computer or eyeglasses
found From non Creator Manufacture

How you want me to believe that the heavens and the earth, sun and
moon and planets rights and Jeddou From non Creator


Thank

Is your native language not 'sanity'?
.


User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 03 Sep 2007 04:31:49 PM
On Sep 2, 5:22 pm, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Brenda Nelson You contradict yourself, you yourself said that you
react in one of the universe came from the great

explosion

No, I did *not*. Please do not put words in my mouth. Either you are
a liar, or you don't read and comprehend English very well. For now,
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
What I said is that the current data seem to indicate that the
universe has always existed *in some form*. I did not mention the Big
Bang, which is what you're referring to.

How now says that the universe is eternal

It may well be. One theory, which has a certain amount of interesting
data to support it, is that the universe expands and contracts
cyclically. What we call the "Big Bang" may well just be the latest
point of expansion. The universe would still exist in it's contracted
state.
Another interesting idea, which also has some data to support it, is
that our universe is one of an infinite number of universes.
Which, if either, theory will ultimately prove to be factual is not
known at this time. However, there's no data to support the notion
that the universe needed a god to create it.
Indeed, there are many problems with thinking that a super-being
exists "outside" (i.e., independent of) the universe. Where, then,
does this putative super-being exist? How long did it exist before it
decided to create the universe? What was it doing before that? Why
did it need to create a universe?
The simplest and most parsimonious explanation, and the one that is
supported by current data, is that the universe is un-created, but has
always existed in some form. That's the one I'll go with. If you
need to believe in impossible super-beings, then that's your
superstition, and it's your problem.

Now you do not contradict yourself, but only contradict modern
science, which proves that the universe came from the

great explosion

Excuse me, you islamic idiot, but YOU are the one who is behind the
times by about 40 years. Your education needs updating. For one
thing, the science does not "prove" anything. Science is about
evidence and data, not dogma. Please get yourself into a school that
teaches good theoretical science, because you're way behind the times.

Need thinking

YOU need a modern education. Please get one. Hopefully, it will keep
you out of atheist newsgroups, where your superstition is not welcome.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 03 Sep 2007 08:46:06 AM
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:22:19 -0700, hg <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote:

Brenda Nelson You contradict yourself, you yourself said that you
react in one of the universe came from the great

explosion How now says that the universe is eternal.


Now you do not contradict yourself, but only contradict modern
science, which proves that the universe came from the


great explosion


Need thinking

I should say you do.
When are you going to start?
Some minimal coherency might establish your bona fides as well.
.
User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 03 Sep 2007 04:36:19 PM
On Sep 3, 1:46 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:22:19 -0700, hg <ahmd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Brenda Nelson You contradict yourself, you yourself said that you
react in one of the universe came from the great


explosion How now says that the universe is eternal.


Now you do not contradict yourself, but only contradict modern
science, which proves that the universe came from the


great explosion


Need thinking


I should say you do.
When are you going to start?

Some minimal coherency might establish your bona fides as well.

It strikes me that these islamic missionaries are just like the
christian fundies I grew up with, except that they don't have even the
average christer's grasp of English (and we all know how minimal that
is). It's the same deal: they've been taught stock arguments, to
which they expect certain stock answers. When they don't get those
answers, but instead get a reasoned response based on evidence and
logic, they lose it.
Fundies are all the same, I'm a-thinkin'.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.
User: "hg"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 03 Sep 2007 08:26:06 PM
Proved to me unequivocal evidence that the universe is eternally
could not
Science will prove that the universe began from the great explosion
and will end at any time
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: ??? ???? ?????? ?????? 04 Sep 2007 12:13:37 AM
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:06 -0700, hg <ahmd056@yahoo.com> wrote:

Proved to me unequivocal evidence that the universe is eternally

could not
Science will prove that the universe began from the great explosion
and will end at any time

Ask it in English, and I might be able to respond.
Your current efforts have been little more than gibberish.
.
















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