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"J Young" |
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06 Mar 2006 02:54:33 PM |
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Women drivers 'miss warning signs' |
Ladies, by now you all know that I'm on your side when it comes to most
issues. Driving however, is another story. My experience with most women is
that they cannot drive ( everybody knows some woman who can drive as well as
any man, but the fact is most can't ) To be fair,there are some things a
woman can do better than their male counterparts; for example, a man cannot
care for an infant as well as a woman. I know there are times when driving
is a necessity but please, if any other mode of transport is possible
ladies, use it.
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/206/206566_women_drivers_miss_warning_signs.html
WOMEN drivers are dashboard dunces when it comes to recognising warning
symbols in their cars.
New research shows that one in two hasn't the foggiest idea of what some
dashboard signs mean.
Despite the average motorist spending 360 hours a year behind the wheel, as
many as 42 per cent of motorists cannot identify common dashboard symbols,
according to the poll by AA Personal Loans.
Almost half of women and one third of men could not correctly identify
symbols for frequently used functions or basic warning lights.
The revelations show that 39 per cent of women and 28 per cent of men were
unable to correctly identify the warning lamp for the main beam headlight
warning lamp suggesting that they may regularly unwittingly dazzle oncoming
traffic.
Two thirds of women could not correctly identify the front windscreen washer
and wipe symbol, one in five admitting they had no idea what it signified,
compared to one in 20 men.
Just 38 per cent of women compared to 65 per cent of men were able to
correctly identify the warning lamp indicating high coolant temperature -
yet ignoring this could lead to engine damage.
Twelve per cent of women and seven per cent of men admitted they had no idea
what the handbrake warning light was. A third of women drivers wrongly
identified this symbol, compared to just on in five men.
More than two thirds of women and 44 per cent of men could not correctly
identify the rear fog light symbol, with one in five women admitting to
having no idea what it meant.
The most commonly identified symbol in the survey was the oil pressure
warning lamp.
A total of 85 per cent correctly identified this symbol, but women still
lagged behind men with 78 per cent being correctly able to identify this
symbol, compared to 91 per cent of men.
Lloyd East, ofAA Financial Services, said: "More women than men are now
buying second-hand motors.
"It's worrying so many female motorists are in the dark over some of the
most common dashboard symbols."
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" The truth shall set you free "
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| User: "Arthur Stone" |
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08 Mar 2006 08:29:50 PM |
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Andre Lieven wrote:
Women on the job; not cost effective.
Andre
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Too bad for you Andre. Not every woman is willing or able or even wants
to stay home and raise children.
You're a couple of generations too late. The stay at home mom raising
the kiddos while Ward Cleaver heads to the office is a blip. Those days
are done.
And they aren't coming back.
Sorry.
But you can watch the reruns.
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| User: "Andre Lieven" |
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09 Mar 2006 12:05:50 AM |
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"Arthur Stone" (arthurstone309@hotmail.com) whines:
Andre Lieven wrote:
Women on the job; not cost effective.
Andre
Too bad for you Andre. Not every woman is willing or able or even wants
to stay home and raise children.
Indeed, and the results of that shirking of their responsibilities
( Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ) is clear enough.
You're a couple of generations too late. The stay at home mom raising
the kiddos while Ward Cleaver heads to the office is a blip. Those days
are done.
No proof offered ? Cowshit claim fails.
And they aren't coming back.
No proof offered ? Cowshit claim fails.
The plethora of women's media extolling the SAH life suggests
that you don't know what women want...
Sorry.
Yes, you are.
But you can watch the reruns.
" Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat
it. "
Its woman who wnat the SAH life, such that, of the SAH spouses
out there, well over 90% of them are women.
Once again, you display your MS-conceptions...
<shrugs>
Andre
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| User: "" |
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09 Mar 2006 12:16:23 AM |
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Andre Lieven wrote:
Once again, you display your MS-conceptions...
<shrugs>
Yep, Andre 1, Arthur 0
And lets not forget women working majority part time in cushy jobs so
they can have time with the kids.
Nothing wrong with that... hell, in a society of non-materialism, you
bet women would be SAH'ers in the majority.
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| User: "Arthur Stone" |
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09 Mar 2006 09:37:06 AM |
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Andre Lieven wrote:
"Arthur Stone" (arthurstone309@hotmail.com) whines:
Andre Lieven wrote:
Women on the job; not cost effective.
Andre
Too bad for you Andre. Not every woman is willing or able or even wants
to stay home and raise children.
Indeed, and the results of that shirking of their responsibilities
( Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ) is clear enough.
Andre. The day when women's sole purpose on earth was to get pregnant,
give birth and raise children is over.
Deal with it.
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| User: "Andre Lieven" |
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09 Mar 2006 12:18:07 PM |
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"Arthur Stone" (arthur-dumb-as-a-stone@ideologue.com) makes fact free
claims: > Andre Lieven wrote:
"Arthur Stone" (arthurstone309@hotmail.com) whines:
Andre Lieven wrote:
Women on the job; not cost effective.
Andre
Too bad for you Andre. Not every woman is willing or able or even wants
to stay home and raise children.
Indeed, and the results of that shirking of their responsibilities
( Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ) is clear enough.
Andre. The day when women's sole purpose on earth was to get pregnant,
give birth and raise children is over.
Not according to... *women*...
See the single by choice mommyhood rates, moron.
Deal with it.
<Massive Fact Free Projection>
Up your meds, sexist sow.
Baby Feminists is SO *stoopid* !
Andre
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| User: "Arthur Stone" |
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09 Mar 2006 12:25:51 PM |
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Andre Lieven wrote:
Not according to... *women*...
See the single by choice mommyhood rates, moron.
When *moron* shows up I feel my work is done.
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| User: "Mark Borgerson mborgerson.at.comcast.net" |
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08 Mar 2006 08:23:30 PM |
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In article <dunpc2$9te$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>,
says...
"Arthur Stone" (arthurstone309@hotmail.com) writes:
PolishKnight wrote:
This is a fun topic because I love to discuss how feminism has
increased the number of drivers on the road as more women
have entered the workplace as full time workers.
If 30% of the commuters are
career women who might be at home in a more traditional era,
then that 30% reduction in traffic might be enough to eliminate
congestion. Add in the 30% reduction in fuel consumption.
Hmmm, this can be fun! Take away the fuel and drivers for
going to daycare. And for all the industries that support
women in the workplace...
Um. If you subtracted 30% of commuters who are career women, would not
the jobs still exist?
Why would they ? Do women do hard hat construction, coal mining, or
auto mechanic work ?
No, they don't, in any statistically significant numbers.
Weasel words. What is your definition of "statistically significant"?
1%, 5%, 15%, 25%?
The percentage of women in auto mechanics and construction and mining is
probably on the low end of the 1 to 5% range. Is 1.5% a statistically
significant number? Well, if my chances of getting in a fatal
auto accident were 1.5% each time I got in my car, I would consider
that a statistically significant risk!
So, drop
the work force that much, and the jobs that vanish are nail salon
operators, wedding " consultants ", and the like.
IOW, more women freed from the rigours of paid labour ! Freeing
*more* room on the roads, demand for gasoline, and road congestion.
I suspect that a lot of the women in those low-paid service jobs
either work at home or don't commute long distances. How much
room on the roads and demand for gasoline would decrease is open
to question. They would probably make up for the commute by
driving to the mall more often! ;-)
And would they not then be filled by men who in turn would commute by
automobile?
Nope.
And would there not be a 30% reduction in fuel consumption?
Perhaps less, perhaps more. But, one could also dispense with
many of the second, or third cars, that so many first worlders
have need of, to help keep women in the workplace...
So, likely more...
Women on the job; not cost effective.
Easy for you to say. I would guess that the woman in your house is not
bringing home more than $40,00 per year in income. Those of us with
college-educated wives bringing home significant salaries would
certainly miss the income.
Mark Borgerson
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| User: "PolishKnight" |
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09 Mar 2006 08:08:48 AM |
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In article <MPG.1e79317e39c48a1b98a14a@newsgroups.comcast.net>,
Mark Borgerson <mborgerson.at.comcast.net> wrote:
[clip]
Easy for you to say. I would guess that the woman in your house is not
bringing home more than $40,00 per year in income. Those of us with
college-educated wives bringing home significant salaries would
certainly miss the income.
Mark Borgerson
During the 80's and 90's, this was largely the thinking that
professional women had become entrenched because their income
was required for a middle class lifestyle.
It was also quietly whispired about that much of this was
due to the increased costs of supporting the women's rights
movement: wage deflation, daycare, higher taxes, and
don't forget, the high cost of education for the female
children. One hand giveth, one hand taketh away.
Indeed, the reverse of this became true as well during
the 90's: High income earning career women discovered that
they "missed" a professional man's income if they tried
to "go it alone" and become unwed mothers.
regards,
PolishKnight
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| User: "Arthur Stone" |
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08 Mar 2006 03:35:34 PM |
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Arthur Stone wrote:
PolishKnight wrote:
This is a fun topic because I love to discuss how feminism has
increased the number of drivers on the road as more women
have entered the workplace as full time workers.
If 30% of the commuters are
career women who might be at home in a more traditional era,
then that 30% reduction in traffic might be enough to eliminate
congestion. Add in the 30% reduction in fuel consumption.
Hmmm, this can be fun! Take away the fuel and drivers for
going to daycare. And for all the industries that support
women in the workplace...
Um. If you subtracted 30% of commuters who are career women, would not
the jobs still exist?
And would they not then be filled by men who in turn would commute by
automobile?
And would there not be a 30% reduction in fuel consumption?
Make that:
And there would not be a 30% reduction in fuel consmuption would there?
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| User: "PolishKnight" |
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08 Mar 2006 06:01:55 PM |
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In article <1141853410.503542.75100@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Arthur Stone" <arthurstone309@hotmail.com> wrote:
PolishKnight wrote:
This is a fun topic because I love to discuss how feminism has
increased the number of drivers on the road as more women
have entered the workplace as full time workers.
If 30% of the commuters are
career women who might be at home in a more traditional era,
then that 30% reduction in traffic might be enough to eliminate
congestion. Add in the 30% reduction in fuel consumption.
Hmmm, this can be fun! Take away the fuel and drivers for
going to daycare. And for all the industries that support
women in the workplace...
Um. If you subtracted 30% of commuters who are career women, would not
the jobs still exist?
And would they not then be filled by men who in turn would commute by
automobile?
And would there not be a 30% reduction in fuel consumption?
Shhhhh! :-)
There's two ways to look at this: With fewer workers,
consumption overall would theoretically go down.
This is the inverse of the Keynsian view of
more workers/government causing consumption, and therefore
the economy to increase.
But you're right: more jobs would be opened up. This would
lower unemployment for poorer men (helping to reduce
the tax burden as well.)
So win-win!
regards,
PolishKnight
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| User: "Kate" |
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06 Mar 2006 06:12:26 PM |
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And so because the larger the engine, the more accidents it has, then
you think there must be more large engined cars?
LOL, yes, all studies of this type only show correlation my foolish
friend, not cause and affect. I was pointing out J Young's usual
flawed logic with an example that pushed it further that made him look
bad.
But you yourself only told part of the story - you neglected to mention
that men also engage in far more risky behavior in driving than women
and that insurance rates on them are higher.
tsk tsk tsk....
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| User: "" |
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06 Mar 2006 06:43:59 PM |
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Kate wrote:
And so because the larger the engine, the more accidents it has,
Is this so?
then you think there must be more large engined cars?
LOL, yes, all studies of this type only show correlation my foolish
friend, not cause and affect. I was pointing out J Young's usual
flawed logic with an example that pushed it further that made him look
bad.
Men likely do engage in riskier driving behavior than women. That
could be addressed as well. That does *not* mean that women's lack of
familiarity with the equipment on their cars isn't an issue and
shouldn't be addressed.
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| User: "Kate" |
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07 Mar 2006 12:58:27 PM |
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And so because the larger the engine, the more accidents it has,
Is this so?
Sorry to say - yes it is.
then you think there must be more large engined cars?
LOL, yes, all studies of this type only show correlation my foolish
friend, not cause and affect. I was pointing out J Young's usual
flawed logic with an example that pushed it further that made him look
bad.
Men likely do engage in riskier driving behavior than women. That
could be addressed as well. That does *not* mean that women's lack of
familiarity with the equipment on their cars isn't an issue and
shouldn't be addressed.
The original point was that women shouldn't drive cars because of that
- not that it only should be addressed.
Try re-reading the post.
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| User: "greg" |
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07 Mar 2006 06:58:37 PM |
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Kate wrote:
And so because the larger the engine, the more accidents it has,
Is this so?
Sorry to say - yes it is.
That's because of the idiot petrol heads who drive them - mostly young
inexperienced men.
then you think there must be more large engined cars?
LOL, yes, all studies of this type only show correlation my foolish
friend, not cause and affect. I was pointing out J Young's usual
flawed logic with an example that pushed it further that made him look
bad.
Men likely do engage in riskier driving behavior than women. That
could be addressed as well. That does *not* mean that women's lack of
familiarity with the equipment on their cars isn't an issue and
shouldn't be addressed.
The original point was that women shouldn't drive cars because of that
- not that it only should be addressed.
Try re-reading the post.
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| User: "" |
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07 Mar 2006 12:30:11 AM |
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Kate wrote:
And so because the larger the engine, the more accidents it has, then
you think there must be more large engined cars?
No. I blame women indirectly causing boys to men to smash themselves
and their cars up... its called 'impressing the chicks' and girls are
really pushing boys to the brink of destruction... its called chasing
and trying to impress *****.
LOL, yes, all studies of this type only show correlation my foolish
friend, not cause and affect. I was pointing out J Young's usual
flawed logic with an example that pushed it further that made him look
bad.
Women are partly to blame for the horrors on our roads, thats weak
women like this 'kate thing' can't handle the truth isn't unusual.
But you yourself only told part of the story - you neglected to mention
that men also engage in far more risky behavior in driving than women
and that insurance rates on them are higher.
tsk tsk tsk....
....because girls want boys to impress them with risky behaviour, hotted
up cars, to take risks, to compete against their friends and other
males in return for *****.
Throughout history, ***** has been responsible for boys to mens deaths
from war to work.. as women as self preserving sexists are the least
likely to ever show up and share the burdens alongside men as true
equals.'
And we wonder why boys to men rape hate against women?
Yeah, tsk tsk.
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| User: "Kate" |
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07 Mar 2006 12:56:27 PM |
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My my my - lots of strange declarations based on, what? What you want
to believe? You sound like you haven't had sex in quite a while.
Probably your attitude has a lot to do with it.
Try using your head instead of talking our of your *****. Women far
prefer men rather than asses.
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| User: "" |
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07 Mar 2006 09:10:14 PM |
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Kate wrote:
My my my - lots of strange declarations based on, what?
Women are the weaker sex because they avoid equal hard yakka in not
sharing the life and lifestyle depriving burdens (and instead socialise
boys to men to do this) via dressing in protect me oppress me *****
pink!
Sexists? Look in the mirror WOMAN!
What you want
to believe?
I believe women as 'the stronger sex' by NOT choosing to share the life
and lifestyle depriving burdens in gender parity alongside men as
equals tells me a lot about how women view their lives as SUPERIOR.
For feminist gender criminals to then demand women have equal say in
the decision making processes without ever breaking a finger nail is
sexism personified.
You'd had to agree, 'darling'.
You sound like you haven't had sex in quite a while.
Probably your attitude has a lot to do with it.
Now don't get personal ;-) Women as self preserving sexists oppress
themselves... self exclusion via socialisation is womans true enemy,
men have only liberated women from themselves!
Try using your head instead of talking our of your *****. Women far
prefer men rather than asses.
Women are the weaker sex just look at the sexist gals avoiding equal
hard yakka via dressing in protect me oppress me ***** pink!
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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06 Mar 2006 06:40:53 PM |
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On 6 Mar 2006 13:41:21 -0800, "Kate" <Kate@twoangryliberals.com> wrote:
If this is all true - then why is it that men cause twice as many
accidents as women?
Cos there's four times as many of them?
<Me\ ducks and runs>
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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06 Mar 2006 06:06:55 PM |
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In article <X5Wdnfc3hb4GPJHZRVn-qw@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Ladies, by now you all know that I'm on your side when it comes to most
issues. Driving however, is another story. My experience with most women is
that they cannot drive ( everybody knows some woman who can drive as well as
any man, but the fact is most can't ) To be fair,there are some things a
woman can do better than their male counterparts; for example, a man cannot
care for an infant as well as a woman. I know there are times when driving
is a necessity but please, if any other mode of transport is possible
ladies, use it.
But, to iben's eternal sorrow, the female ***** detection system
works just fine.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Mar 2006 10:53:44 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Ladies, by now you all know that I'm on your side when it comes to most
issues.
Provided that you do as he says and don't try to insist upon any
rights that he won't approve of.
Driving however, is another story. My experience with most women is
that they cannot drive
Smirk.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "J Young" |
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06 Mar 2006 11:04:55 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:440d11d8$0$58087$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Ladies, by now you all know that I'm on your side when it comes to most
issues.
Provided that you do as he says and don't try to insist upon any
rights that he won't approve of.
Why do you keep insisting that if someone is pro-baby, that they must be
anti-women? Why do you hate children so much?
Driving however, is another story. My experience with most women is
that they cannot drive
Smirk.
I'll take that as an agreement.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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07 Mar 2006 12:07:40 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Ladies, by now you all know that I'm on your side when it comes to most
issues.
Provided that you do as he says and don't try to insist upon any
rights that he won't approve of.
Why do you keep insisting that if someone is pro-baby, that they must be
anti-women?
I don't.
You're not pro-baby.
Why do you hate children so much?
Why are you a child molester?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "J Young" |
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07 Mar 2006 09:37:48 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:440d232c$0$58127$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Why are you a child molester?
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......and here I assumed you were better than a few of the other idiots. My
mistake.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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07 Mar 2006 11:57:36 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Why do you hate children so much?
Why are you a child molester?
.....and here I assumed you were better than a few of the other idiots. My
mistake.
The ***** can dish it out but whines when get gets it back.
What a surprise.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "LC" |
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07 Mar 2006 09:48:45 AM |
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NAMBLA boy "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Z4ednQ7Qz-BBNZDZnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:440d232c$0$58127$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Why are you a child molester?
.....and here I assumed you were better than a few of the other idiots. My
mistake.
You're on record as such, troll.
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| User: "Martin" |
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06 Mar 2006 04:44:36 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Ladies, by now you all know that I'm on your side when it comes to most
issues. Driving however, is another story. My experience with most women is
that they cannot drive ( everybody knows some woman who can drive as well as
any man, but the fact is most can't ) To be fair,there are some things a
woman can do better than their male counterparts; for example, a man cannot
care for an infant as well as a woman. I know there are times when driving
is a necessity but please, if any other mode of transport is possible
ladies, use it.
Why do they have lower insurance premiums if your assertion is true that
most women cannot drive?
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| User: "SteveTBM®" |
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06 Mar 2006 05:16:01 PM |
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"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:440cbb44$0$29574$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
J Young wrote:
Ladies, by now you all know that I'm on your side when it comes to most
issues. Driving however, is another story. My experience with most women
is
that they cannot drive ( everybody knows some woman who can drive as well
as
any man, but the fact is most can't ) To be fair,there are some things a
woman can do better than their male counterparts; for example, a man
cannot
care for an infant as well as a woman. I know there are times when
driving
is a necessity but please, if any other mode of transport is possible
ladies, use it.
Why do they have lower insurance premiums if your assertion is true that
most women cannot drive?
I was always informed that women have lower insuance premiums because
a. They tend to drive cheaper cars so on average their premiums are lower
b. They have different accidents to men. Men like to go for nice big smashes
whereas women are content with shunts and scrapes.
I recall seeing statistics in a UK broadsheet that stated that men have very
slightly more accidents than women but there was hardly anything in it.
SteveTBM
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| User: "Kate" |
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07 Mar 2006 01:03:00 PM |
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Not according to the insurance companies. They say it's because women
have less moving violations and less accidents.
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| User: "Martin" |
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06 Mar 2006 05:33:52 PM |
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SteveTBM® wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:440cbb44$0$29574$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
J Young wrote:
Ladies, by now you all know that I'm on your side when it comes to most
issues. Driving however, is another story. My experience with most women
is
that they cannot drive ( everybody knows some woman who can drive as well
as
any man, but the fact is most can't ) To be fair,there are some things a
woman can do better than their male counterparts; for example, a man
cannot
care for an infant as well as a woman. I know there are times when
driving
is a necessity but please, if any other mode of transport is possible
ladies, use it.
Why do they have lower insurance premiums if your assertion is true that
most women cannot drive?
I was always informed that women have lower insuance premiums because
a. They tend to drive cheaper cars so on average their premiums are lower
b. They have different accidents to men. Men like to go for nice big smashes
whereas women are content with shunts and scrapes.
the reason for that is because they keep getting told
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| Title: Re: Women drivers 'miss warning signs' |
07 Mar 2006 11:25:24 AM |
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Martin wrote:
J Young wrote:
Ladies, by now you all know that I'm on your side when it comes to most
issues. Driving however, is another story. My experience with most
women is
that they cannot drive ( everybody knows some woman who can drive as
well as
any man, but the fact is most can't ) To be fair,there are some things a
woman can do better than their male counterparts; for example, a man
cannot
care for an infant as well as a woman. I know there are times when
driving
is a necessity but please, if any other mode of transport is possible
ladies, use it.
Why do they have lower insurance premiums if your assertion is true that
most women cannot drive?
The article makes it obvious - They blow their motor before reaching the
intersection they would have crashed at. :)
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