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11 Jun 2006 07:53:03 PM |
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Women told 'drink less' to avoid rape |
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=860222006
A POLICE chief sparks controversy today by suggesting the number of rapes in
Scotland could be substantially reduced if women drank less.
Neil Richardson, assistant chief constable of Lothian and Borders Police,
bases his claim on new research which identified victims' alcohol
consumption as significant in a third of attacks.
The senior officer said "a lot" of the 1,100 rapes a year could be prevented
"by people not allowing themselves to be in a vulnerable position".
Richardson - who stressed he was not blaming women - spoke out after a study
of more than 120 rapes revealed alcohol intake was a major factor in 40
cases.
Detectives concluded that the women were more likely to be targeted in the
first place and less able to prevent the attack.
Even though 13 of the 124 women claimed their drinks had been spiked with
"date rape drugs" the research found no evidence of any such substances
having been used.
Richardson said: "In many cases the women reported being victims of date
rape drugs but analysis shows it was far more likely they have just fallen
victim to alcohol."
He added: "We know that drink reduces inhibitions and we take more chances,
therefore we can make an assumption about the vulnerability that goes with
that.
"I do think a lot of these attacks could be prevented by people not allowing
themselves to be in a vulnerable position.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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11 Jun 2006 08:46:55 PM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth.
The number of rapes would also be less if women were forced to wear
burkas and stay out of the public view. But like most misogynists you
like to blame the victim for your own inability to control yourself.
When women treat themselves with more respect,
When they do as you say, in other words.
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=860222006
A POLICE chief sparks controversy today by suggesting the number of rapes in
Scotland could be substantially reduced if women drank less.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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12 Jun 2006 09:31:30 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth.
The number of rapes would also be less if women were forced to wear
burkas and stay out of the public view. But like most misogynists you
like to blame the victim for your own inability to control yourself.
I'm wondering what statistics this police chief was looking at.
Something made him think that alcohol was a contributing
factor to too many rapes, for some value of "too many".
I don't think there's anything wrong with reminding people that
there are predators out there, and they should use some common
sense and think about what they can do to reduce the danger
they expose themselves to. If your daughter is going out with
some friends, are you telling me that there's no "use your head"
advice of yours you'd want her to remember?
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Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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12 Jun 2006 09:31:13 PM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:JYudnaGLd81gJxHZnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com...
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men
show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
Ummm... it's the men doing the raping, idiot.
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| User: "kathryn" |
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12 Jun 2006 01:30:09 PM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:JYudnaGLd81gJxHZnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com...
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men
show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
How are you going to score now?
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| User: "" |
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11 Jun 2006 11:29:24 PM |
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wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=860222006
A POLICE chief sparks controversy today by suggesting the number of rapes in
Scotland could be substantially reduced if women drank less.
I can't fathom why Jerkoff Young would criticize that cop.
Rape is the only way Young can score, except with animals.
Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher
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"The people we starve and torture have an unsociable
tendency to steal and murder. We think it's because
their brows overhang."
- Ann Druyan
"Texas: 50th in education, first in executions...
how's that working for you?"
- Kinky Friedman's campaign slogan
in the Texas governor's race
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| User: "Gaia" |
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12 Jun 2006 11:14:05 AM |
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wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=860222006
A POLICE chief sparks controversy today by suggesting the number of rapes in
Scotland could be substantially reduced if women drank less.
I can't fathom why Jerkoff Young would criticize that cop.
Rape is the only way Young can score, except with animals.
Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher
JYoung is nothing more than a pedophiliac troll, who steals accounts,
identities, and posts for his trolling pleasure. The best thing to do
when dealing with this troll is to completely ignore him.
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"The people we starve and torture have an unsociable
tendency to steal and murder. We think it's because
their brows overhang."
- Ann Druyan
"Texas: 50th in education, first in executions...
how's that working for you?"
- Kinky Friedman's campaign slogan
in the Texas governor's race
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| User: "LC" |
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11 Jun 2006 08:57:52 PM |
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Indecent drunken loon <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:JYudnaGLd81gJxHZnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com...
A little decency goes a long way.
Which "goes a long way" to explain why your entire pathetic life includes
trolling with endless sockpuppets, garnering derision wherever you post.
LC~ Poor 'lil "J" never learned the difference between a rut and a groove.
"Everyday a different computer, everyday a different Id (those may have
to be repeated after I run out of names and numbers with my free
accounts with hotmail and yahoo and volcanomail and msn ect...) which
will render a killfile absolutely useless."
From: "simon sez" <simonsez@volcanomail.com> aka "J Young", "IBen", "Auric
Hellman, et al.
Message-ID: <1124475530.860458.5110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "Attila2" |
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12 Jun 2006 05:30:52 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<JYudnaGLd81gJxHZnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
More propagandizing spam from one of the usual sources.
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| User: "Strife767" |
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11 Jun 2006 08:30:51 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
<off-topic blather>
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| User: "Adam H" |
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11 Jun 2006 08:05:18 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=860222006
A POLICE chief sparks controversy today by suggesting the number of rapes in
Scotland could be substantially reduced if women drank less.
Neil Richardson, assistant chief constable of Lothian and Borders Police,
bases his claim on new research which identified victims' alcohol
consumption as significant in a third of attacks.
The senior officer said "a lot" of the 1,100 rapes a year could be prevented
"by people not allowing themselves to be in a vulnerable position".
Richardson - who stressed he was not blaming women - spoke out after a study
of more than 120 rapes revealed alcohol intake was a major factor in 40
cases.
Detectives concluded that the women were more likely to be targeted in the
first place and less able to prevent the attack.
Even though 13 of the 124 women claimed their drinks had been spiked with
"date rape drugs" the research found no evidence of any such substances
having been used.
Richardson said: "In many cases the women reported being victims of date
rape drugs but analysis shows it was far more likely they have just fallen
victim to alcohol."
He added: "We know that drink reduces inhibitions and we take more chances,
therefore we can make an assumption about the vulnerability that goes with
that.
"I do think a lot of these attacks could be prevented by people not allowing
themselves to be in a vulnerable position.
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I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "Ash" |
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12 Jun 2006 01:36:17 PM |
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Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
Well, probably more like people are told to lock their doors
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=860222006
A POLICE chief sparks controversy today by suggesting the number of rapes in
Scotland could be substantially reduced if women drank less.
Neil Richardson, assistant chief constable of Lothian and Borders Police,
bases his claim on new research which identified victims' alcohol
consumption as significant in a third of attacks.
The senior officer said "a lot" of the 1,100 rapes a year could be prevented
"by people not allowing themselves to be in a vulnerable position".
Richardson - who stressed he was not blaming women - spoke out after a study
of more than 120 rapes revealed alcohol intake was a major factor in 40
cases.
Detectives concluded that the women were more likely to be targeted in the
first place and less able to prevent the attack.
Even though 13 of the 124 women claimed their drinks had been spiked with
"date rape drugs" the research found no evidence of any such substances
having been used.
Richardson said: "In many cases the women reported being victims of date
rape drugs but analysis shows it was far more likely they have just fallen
victim to alcohol."
He added: "We know that drink reduces inhibitions and we take more chances,
therefore we can make an assumption about the vulnerability that goes with
that.
"I do think a lot of these attacks could be prevented by people not allowing
themselves to be in a vulnerable position.
---
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "Miriam Cohen" |
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12 Jun 2006 06:59:32 PM |
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Ash wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect,
men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
Well, probably more like people are told to lock their doors
Look! It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a punchline that flew right over
your "head"!
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
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| User: "Ash" |
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13 Jun 2006 12:41:25 PM |
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Miriam Cohen wrote:
Ash wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect,
men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
Well, probably more like people are told to lock their doors
Look! It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a punchline that flew right over
your "head"!
Given it made no sense and bore no relation at all to the original
adivce, no shame in that
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12 Jun 2006 07:25:49 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:59:32 -0700, Miriam Cohen
<mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Look! It's a bird, it's a plane,
It's snarge!
________________
I am human; nothing in humanity is alien to me.
Terence
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| User: "Miriam Cohen" |
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12 Jun 2006 11:26:12 PM |
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wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:59:32 -0700, Miriam Cohen
<mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Look! It's a bird, it's a plane,
It's snarge!
:)
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
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| User: "Strife767" |
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12 Jun 2006 01:41:07 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:36:17 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
Well, probably more like people are told to lock their doors
That's like telling a woman that she can avoid getting raped if she closes
her legs.
What do you think burglars do, check the door then leave if it's locked? Of
course not. That's why it's called _breaking_ and entering.
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| User: "Ash" |
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12 Jun 2006 02:29:19 PM |
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Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:36:17 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
Well, probably more like people are told to lock their doors
That's like telling a woman that she can avoid getting raped if she closes
her legs.
What do you think burglars do, check the door then leave if it's locked? Of
course not. That's why it's called _breaking_ and entering.
Why do you think doors have locks, or locks can be bought for windows?
Because it makes it harder for burglars
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| User: "Strife767" |
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12 Jun 2006 02:44:06 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:29:19 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:36:17 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
Well, probably more like people are told to lock their doors
That's like telling a woman that she can avoid getting raped if she closes
her legs.
What do you think burglars do, check the door then leave if it's locked? Of
course not. That's why it's called _breaking_ and entering.
Why do you think doors have locks, or locks can be bought for windows?
Because it makes it harder for burglars
Is the burglar free of blame if the door was left unlocked?
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| User: "Ash" |
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12 Jun 2006 03:51:30 PM |
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Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:29:19 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:36:17 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
Well, probably more like people are told to lock their doors
That's like telling a woman that she can avoid getting raped if she closes
her legs.
What do you think burglars do, check the door then leave if it's locked? Of
course not. That's why it's called _breaking_ and entering.
Why do you think doors have locks, or locks can be bought for windows?
Because it makes it harder for burglars
Is the burglar free of blame if the door was left unlocked?
Is the rapist free of blame if the woman was drunk?
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| User: "Strife767" |
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12 Jun 2006 04:22:50 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:51:30 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:29:19 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:36:17 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
Well, probably more like people are told to lock their doors
That's like telling a woman that she can avoid getting raped if she closes
her legs.
What do you think burglars do, check the door then leave if it's locked? Of
course not. That's why it's called _breaking_ and entering.
Why do you think doors have locks, or locks can be bought for windows?
Because it makes it harder for burglars
Is the burglar free of blame if the door was left unlocked?
Is the rapist free of blame if the woman was drunk?
I have a feeling we have misunderstood each other. You appear to be making
the same point I am.
Regardless of how vulnerable a woman makes herself, whether intentional or
not, the blame is still solely the rapist's. Do you feel the same way?
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| User: "Ash" |
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12 Jun 2006 04:38:21 PM |
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Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:51:30 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:29:19 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:36:17 GMT, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
Well, probably more like people are told to lock their doors
That's like telling a woman that she can avoid getting raped if she closes
her legs.
What do you think burglars do, check the door then leave if it's locked? Of
course not. That's why it's called _breaking_ and entering.
Why do you think doors have locks, or locks can be bought for windows?
Because it makes it harder for burglars
Is the burglar free of blame if the door was left unlocked?
Is the rapist free of blame if the woman was drunk?
I have a feeling we have misunderstood each other. You appear to be making
the same point I am.
Regardless of how vulnerable a woman makes herself, whether intentional or
not, the blame is still solely the rapist's. Do you feel the same way?
Yes.
I think my point was that advice telling women to drink less to avoid
rape is more on the level of telling people to lock up their possessions
to avoid having them stolen, than telling them to have less possessions.
It is not really new either, there was a big campaign last summer for
people going on holiday, warning women especially not to get drunk and
go back to their apartment alone.
Of course, it is a little more complex. It is generally accepted that
if you don't take care of your possessions you risk losing them and I
feel many people would say you share much of the responsibility for
that; only women haters like Young would say the same about rape.
Young's twisted reading of things is as always, deeply disturbed
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| User: "osprey" |
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11 Jun 2006 08:26:25 PM |
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Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
You are truly stupid Adam.
While I don't necessarily agree completely with what the Police Chief
is saying, he is correct in saying that when women treat themselves
with more respect, men show them more respect.
I doubt that women drinking less will lead to any significant reduction
in rape; however, it's true that when we do drink we act in ways that
we normally might not act when we have a clear mind. Rape is wrong,
regardless of any aggrevating circumstances. When a woman says no, she
means no and a man should respect that. Alcohol consumption does lead
to irresponsible behavior. A woman may place herself in a situation
where rape could happen, or she may act in a manner in which a man or
men might take her actions into meaning she wants sex. And she may
very well be acceptable under the influence.
But for you to compare a wealthy person having money to women and/or
men consuming alcohol and acting irresponsible only shows your own
ignorance and stupidity. The two are not even related.
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| User: "Adam H" |
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11 Jun 2006 08:53:27 PM |
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On 11 Jun 2006 18:26:25 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
You are truly stupid Adam.
While I don't necessarily agree completely with what the Police Chief
is saying, he is correct in saying that when women treat themselves
with more respect, men show them more respect.
I doubt that women drinking less will lead to any significant reduction
in rape; however, it's true that when we do drink we act in ways that
we normally might not act when we have a clear mind. Rape is wrong,
regardless of any aggrevating circumstances. When a woman says no, she
means no and a man should respect that. Alcohol consumption does lead
to irresponsible behavior. A woman may place herself in a situation
where rape could happen, or she may act in a manner in which a man or
men might take her actions into meaning she wants sex. And she may
very well be acceptable under the influence.
But for you to compare a wealthy person having money to women and/or
men consuming alcohol and acting irresponsible only shows your own
ignorance and stupidity. The two are not even related.
And that whole screed from you only emphasizes your inability to read
for any nuance whatsoever.
I can't even say that this tendency was revealed - you're just not
smart enough to have hidden your lack for this long.
---
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| Title: Re: Women told 'drink less' to avoid rape |
11 Jun 2006 09:02:22 PM |
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Adam H wrote:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:26:25 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
You are truly stupid Adam.
While I don't necessarily agree completely with what the Police Chief
is saying, he is correct in saying that when women treat themselves
with more respect, men show them more respect.
I doubt that women drinking less will lead to any significant reduction
in rape; however, it's true that when we do drink we act in ways that
we normally might not act when we have a clear mind. Rape is wrong,
regardless of any aggrevating circumstances. When a woman says no, she
means no and a man should respect that. Alcohol consumption does lead
to irresponsible behavior. A woman may place herself in a situation
where rape could happen, or she may act in a manner in which a man or
men might take her actions into meaning she wants sex. And she may
very well be acceptable under the influence.
But for you to compare a wealthy person having money to women and/or
men consuming alcohol and acting irresponsible only shows your own
ignorance and stupidity. The two are not even related.
And that whole screed from you only emphasizes your inability to read
for any nuance whatsoever.
I can't even say that this tendency was revealed - you're just not
smart enough to have hidden your lack for this long.
You really are full of hate and you just can't handle the fact that you
are not always right.
<smirk>
Well, if my post annoyed you that's fine. It was intended to show you
your fallacy, but if you are not open minded enough to understand that
and choose to be annoyed, very well.
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| User: "Adam H" |
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| Title: Re: Women told 'drink less' to avoid rape |
11 Jun 2006 09:13:11 PM |
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On 11 Jun 2006 19:02:22 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:26:25 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
You are truly stupid Adam.
While I don't necessarily agree completely with what the Police Chief
is saying, he is correct in saying that when women treat themselves
with more respect, men show them more respect.
I doubt that women drinking less will lead to any significant reduction
in rape; however, it's true that when we do drink we act in ways that
we normally might not act when we have a clear mind. Rape is wrong,
regardless of any aggrevating circumstances. When a woman says no, she
means no and a man should respect that. Alcohol consumption does lead
to irresponsible behavior. A woman may place herself in a situation
where rape could happen, or she may act in a manner in which a man or
men might take her actions into meaning she wants sex. And she may
very well be acceptable under the influence.
But for you to compare a wealthy person having money to women and/or
men consuming alcohol and acting irresponsible only shows your own
ignorance and stupidity. The two are not even related.
And that whole screed from you only emphasizes your inability to read
for any nuance whatsoever.
I can't even say that this tendency was revealed - you're just not
smart enough to have hidden your lack for this long.
You really are full of hate and you just can't handle the fact that you
are not always right.
<smirk>
Well, if my post annoyed you that's fine. It was intended to show you
your fallacy, but if you are not open minded enough to understand that
and choose to be annoyed, very well.
Let's see, YOU accuse ME of being full of hate and I'M the bothered
one?
Well, whatever ***** floats your boat.
---
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Women told 'drink less' to avoid rape |
13 Jun 2006 09:07:04 PM |
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In article
<kbjp82dj36mav6h89udfeo417rls6kaf9p@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>, Adam H
<adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
On 11 Jun 2006 19:02:22 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:26:25 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:53:03 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This Police Chief will no doubt come under a barrage of criticism for
speaking the truth. When women treat themselves with more respect, men
show
them more respect. A little decency goes a long way.
In other news, the new anti-theft strategy is to tell the wealthy to
'have less money'. It's their own fault, after all.
You are truly stupid Adam.
While I don't necessarily agree completely with what the Police Chief
is saying, he is correct in saying that when women treat themselves
with more respect, men show them more respect.
I doubt that women drinking less will lead to any significant reduction
in rape; however, it's true that when we do drink we act in ways that
we normally might not act when we have a clear mind. Rape is wrong,
regardless of any aggrevating circumstances. When a woman says no, she
means no and a man should respect that. Alcohol consumption does lead
to irresponsible behavior. A woman may place herself in a situation
where rape could happen, or she may act in a manner in which a man or
men might take her actions into meaning she wants sex. And she may
very well be acceptable under the influence.
But for you to compare a wealthy person having money to women and/or
men consuming alcohol and acting irresponsible only shows your own
ignorance and stupidity. The two are not even related.
And that whole screed from you only emphasizes your inability to read
for any nuance whatsoever.
I can't even say that this tendency was revealed - you're just not
smart enough to have hidden your lack for this long.
You really are full of hate and you just can't handle the fact that you
are not always right.
<smirk>
Well, if my post annoyed you that's fine. It was intended to show you
your fallacy, but if you are not open minded enough to understand that
and choose to be annoyed, very well.
Let's see, YOU accuse ME of being full of hate and I'M the bothered
one?
Well, whatever ***** floats your boat.
I see Osprey is still the only Osprey supporter.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Women told 'drink less' to avoid rape |
13 Jun 2006 09:46:37 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> writes:
In article
<kbjp82dj36mav6h89udfeo417rls6kaf9p@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>, Adam H
<adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
On 11 Jun 2006 19:02:22 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
[...]
I can't even say that this tendency was revealed - you're just not
smart enough to have hidden your lack for this long.
You really are full of hate and you just can't handle the fact that you
are not always right.
<smirk>
Well, if my post annoyed you that's fine. It was intended to show you
your fallacy, but if you are not open minded enough to understand that
and choose to be annoyed, very well.
Let's see, YOU accuse ME of being full of hate and I'M the bothered
one?
Well, whatever ***** floats your boat.
I see Osprey is still the only Osprey supporter.
Not entirely - you forgot his mirror.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: October 2006, opponent/venue/time TBA
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Women told 'drink less' to avoid rape |
13 Jun 2006 10:01:22 PM |
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In article <szk64j41mk2.fsf@fnord.io.com>, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> writes:
In article
<kbjp82dj36mav6h89udfeo417rls6kaf9p@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>, Adam H
<adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
On 11 Jun 2006 19:02:22 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Adam H wrote:
[...]
I can't even say that this tendency was revealed - you're just not
smart enough to have hidden your lack for this long.
You really are full of hate and you just can't handle the fact that you
are not always right.
<smirk>
Well, if my post annoyed you that's fine. It was intended to show you
your fallacy, but if you are not open minded enough to understand that
and choose to be annoyed, very well.
Let's see, YOU accuse ME of being full of hate and I'M the bothered
one?
Well, whatever ***** floats your boat.
I see Osprey is still the only Osprey supporter.
Not entirely - you forgot his mirror.
I've been gone quite awhile. I had this fantasy that Osprey might have
learned his lesson. (And that there would be peace in the world.)
Still hope for peace, I suppose.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Women told 'drink less' to avoid rape |
16 Jun 2006 03:06:23 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:130620062001222862%dbarnes@aol.com...
I've been gone quite awhile. I had this fantasy that Osprey might have
learned his lesson. (And that there would be peace in the world.)
Still hope for peace, I suppose.
You fantasized about "Osprey" while you were gone? Talk about obsession.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Women told 'drink less' to avoid rape |
17 Jun 2006 12:28:42 AM |
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In article <4budnTyFEonckg7ZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:130620062001222862%dbarnes@aol.com...
I've been gone quite awhile. I had this fantasy that Osprey might have
learned his lesson. (And that there would be peace in the world.)
Still hope for peace, I suppose.
You fantasized about "Osprey" while you were gone? Talk about obsession.
Actually, I was speaking of when I came back. Your reading
comprehension is the same as always.
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