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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Mr. Young"
Date: 31 Aug 2006 12:45:15 AM
Object: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows
Just one more example proving beyond doubt; pro-life is pro-woman.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2552.html
Springfield, IL (LifeNews.com) -- A new survey shows women considering an
abortion want to know information about the risks and dangers associated
with it beforehand. The survey stands in stark contrast to the position
abortion advocates take in opposition to legislation allowing women to know
the potential medical problems abortion presents.
The Journal of Medical Ethics published the results of the survey of 187
women in July.
The survey polled women seeking obstetric and gynecological services at a
Wisconsin women's health clinic and they were asked to give their opinions
about receiving information for elective medical procedures.
In the survey they ranked the kind of information they would want beforehand
and ranked the severity of different kinds of complications form a medical
procedure ranging from a headache to death.
The results showed 95 percent of patients wished to be informed of all the
risks of a procedure and 65 percent would want to know all of the possible
alternatives beforehand -- not just those alternatives a doctor presents.
In the ranking of risks, women placed mental and emotional health
consequences very high on the list -- only slightly below the risk of death
or heart disease.
Dr. David Reardon, director of the Elliot Institute and one of co-authors of
the study, said the finding may be especially important vis-a-vis abortion
decisions since recent peer-reviewed studies have linked abortion to
increased rates of mental health problems.
Some problems coming from an abortion, according to various studies, include
suicidal behavior, clinical depression, anxiety disorders, substance abuse,
and sleep disorders.
"Doctors should anticipate that most women desire information on every
potential risk, even risks that doctors may judge to be less serious or
inconsequentially rare, and they will generally consider this information to
be relevant to their decisions regarding elective procedures," the authors
wrote in the study.
Reardon, in a statement sent to LifeNews.com, said the survey "demonstrates
that women have a high level of interest in being informed of any risk that
is statistically associated with the procedure, including psychological
risks."
While abortion businesses may regard some abortion risks as relatively
minor, Dr. Reardon said women don't regard them that way.
"It also reveals that while some experts may consider some associations,
such as a 10 percent higher risk of breast cancer, as relatively
unimportant, most women would consider it to be very important to their
decision making process," he said.
Reardon also said the study refutes the claim that abortion practitioners
should withhold information about studies identifying abortion risks simply
because he believes that future studies may someday disprove the earlier
findings.
"Our survey shows that most women don't want doctors to screen which
information they are told about risks," he said. "They want to judge the
evidence for themselves."
Reardon concluded that the study showed women "clearly prefer to be fully
informed about all possible complications, even if abortion providers insist
that the causal links between abortion and these statistically linked
complications have yet to be fully proven to the abortionist's
satisfaction."
Dr. Priscilla Coleman, a professor at Bowling Green State University, was
another one of the authors of the new study.
--
----------
Mr. J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
.

User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 18 Sep 2006 11:41:34 PM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach their
children about God, it should be considered child abuse and should be
outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what your
legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words:
"It's not up to me to decide, and I NEVER said it was. However, our
legislators are the ones who do decide, and as I said, I do support the
current restrictions as they are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that says I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.

You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.

Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.
From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed

I was reprimanded with DOC and failed to show evidence, claimed I was
rejected from a sheriffs positoin, and failed to show evidence. Then
follows it up with another lie by claiming he is honest.
Once again, is there an honest liberal in here????
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 12:12:40 AM
In article <1158640894.594113.282870@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach their
children about God, it should be considered child abuse and should
be
outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what your
legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words:
"It's not up to me to decide, and I NEVER said it was. However, our
legislators are the ones who do decide, and as I said, I do support the
current restrictions as they are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that says I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.

You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.

Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed

I was reprimanded with DOC and failed to show evidence, claimed I was
rejected from a sheriffs positoin, and failed to show evidence. Then
follows it up with another lie by claiming he is honest.

Once again, is there an honest liberal in here????

Those documents were not forgeries and I will personally pay you
$10,000 per document if you can establish they were forgeries in any
manner. (Other than I removed your SSAN to protect you.)
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 01:58:15 AM
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach their
children about God, it should be considered child abuse and should be
outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what your
legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words:
"It's not up to me to decide, and I NEVER said it was. However, our
legislators are the ones who do decide, and as I said, I do support the
current restrictions as they are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that says I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.

You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.

Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed

*****, you're a liar. Nobody believes you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 04:13:28 AM
Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach their
children about God, it should be considered child abuse and should be
outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what your
legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words:
"It's not up to me to decide, and I NEVER said it was. However, our
legislators are the ones who do decide, and as I said, I do support the
current restrictions as they are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that says I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.

You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.

Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed


<snip>
Change your record, its old!!!
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 05:22:19 AM
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child abuse
and should be outlawed.

You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what your
legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they enact.

I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.

These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as they
are set now."

And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that says I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.
You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.
Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???

Me.

From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed

<snip>
Change your record, its old!!!

Translation:
Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 10:02:35 AM
In article <szkmz8wnokk.fsf@fnord.io.com>, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child abuse
and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what

your

legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as they
are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that says
I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:

Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.

His cowardice knows no bounds. Every time he get punched in the nose
he runs off whining.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 10:35:28 AM
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> writes:

In article <szkmz8wnokk.fsf@fnord.io.com>, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child abuse
and should be outlawed.

You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what
your legislators do except that you are to follow the laws
they enact.

I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.

These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as
they are set now."

And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says I am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except
that I am to follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find
your dishonesty to be pathetic. It's par for the course with a
liberal though.
You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.
Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???

Me.

From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed

<snip>
Change your record, its old!!!

Translation:

Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.

His cowardice knows no bounds. Every time he get punched in the nose
he runs off whining.

....and inevitably returns a few minutes later, to blame "liberals" for it. If
I didn't know better, I'd almost think the boy is trying to get the attention
of someone inside the Beltway.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 21 Sep 2006 11:51:19 PM
In article <szkbqpbna2n.fsf@fnord.io.com>, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> writes:

In article <szkmz8wnokk.fsf@fnord.io.com>, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote:


"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:


Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child

abuse

and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what
your legislators do except that you are to follow the laws
they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as
they are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says I am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except
that I am to follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find
your dishonesty to be pathetic. It's par for the course with a
liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and
I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:

Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.


His cowardice knows no bounds. Every time he get punched in the nose
he runs off whining.


...and inevitably returns a few minutes later, to blame "liberals" for it. If
I didn't know better, I'd almost think the boy is trying to get the attention
of someone inside the Beltway.

I've noticed he is big on repeating what he hears. I get the
impression that if sees it on television enough, he figures it is true.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 22 Sep 2006 12:14:08 AM
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> writes:

In article <szkbqpbna2n.fsf@fnord.io.com>, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> writes:

In article <szkmz8wnokk.fsf@fnord.io.com>, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

You were the one who said you think that Parents who
teach their children about God, it should be considered
child abuse and should be outlawed.

You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about
what your legislators do except that you are to follow the
laws they enact.

I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.

These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide,
and I NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones
who do decide, and as I said, I do support the current
restrictions as they are set now."

And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says I am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except
that I am to follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find
your dishonesty to be pathetic. It's par for the course with a
liberal though.
You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out
of context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions,
and I said I do support the current restrictions as they are set
now and I would not like to see abortion rights taken away from
women.
Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???

Me.

From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them.
Claimed

<snip>
Change your record, its old!!!

Translation:
Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.

His cowardice knows no bounds. Every time he get punched in the nose
he runs off whining.

...and inevitably returns a few minutes later, to blame "liberals" for it.
If I didn't know better, I'd almost think the boy is trying to get the
attention of someone inside the Beltway.

I've noticed he is big on repeating what he hears. I get the
impression that if sees it on television enough, he figures it is true.

That would explain his silence of the last couple of days...he's got a lot of
season premieres to watch.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.

User: "Emily Plath"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 22 Sep 2006 08:59:06 AM
David W. Barnes wrote:

I've noticed he is big on repeating what he hears. I get the
impression that if sees it on television enough, he figures it is true.

It's obvious he allows the corrupt media to think for him.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 22 Sep 2006 09:45:24 AM
In article <1158933545.945266.321290@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Emily Plath <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

I've noticed he is big on repeating what he hears. I get the
impression that if sees it on television enough, he figures it is true.


It's obvious he allows the corrupt media to think for him.

He is the perfect patsy. When something is repeated often, he figures
it must be true.
.




User: "Emily Plath"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 02:18:25 PM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <szkmz8wnokk.fsf@fnord.io.com>, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child abuse
and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what

your

legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as they
are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that says
I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:

Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.


His cowardice knows no bounds. Every time he get punched in the nose
he runs off whining.

Pussies like him usually do.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 21 Sep 2006 11:51:20 PM
In article <1158693505.720636.315110@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
Emily Plath <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <szkmz8wnokk.fsf@fnord.io.com>, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child

abuse

and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what

your

legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they

enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and

I

NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as

they

are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says
I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I
am to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your
dishonesty to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and
I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now
and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:

Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.


His cowardice knows no bounds. Every time he get punched in the nose
he runs off whining.


Pussies like him usually do.

He even admits it. He is always running to the DSP, a "lawyer friend,"
others here on the newsgroup, etc.
.



User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 05:37:02 AM
The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child abuse
and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what your
legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as they
are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that says I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:

Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.

Fact: Barnes, one of your buddies, ran away from his own game.
Fact: He used an address and claimed there is a mobile home there and a
trailer park.
Fact: I provided an aerial photograph that clearly shows..
a) No mobile home
and
b) No trailer park
Fact: Barnes used old and outdated information to represent present day
standings. For example, voter registration from 2001 and 2003.
Fact: Barnes still has SEVERAL claims he refuses to back up. So lets
talk about "runs away".
Fact: Barnes knows he is lying and is bragging now that he hides his
identity and he seems to be under the impression that he can NOT be
indentified.
Fact: He can
Fact: I used his same game, by making a statement he would have to
repeat, and to use that statement to stand by his claims. Barnes
refuses to do this.
Want to talk about running away?
Now, what's your excuse?
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 06:11:15 AM
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:

You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child abuse
and should be outlawed.

You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what
your legislators do except that you are to follow the laws
they enact.

I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.

These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as
they are set now."

And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says I am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except
that I am to follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find
your dishonesty to be pathetic. It's par for the course with a
liberal though.
You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.
Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???

Me.

From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed

<snip>
Change your record, its old!!!

Translation:
Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.

Fact: Barnes, one of your buddies, ran away from his own game.

Take it up with him, then. You're still having trouble with distinguishing
between groups and individuals, as usual.

Fact: He used an address and claimed there is a mobile home there and a
trailer park.
Fact: I provided an aerial photograph that clearly shows..
a) No mobile home
and
b) No trailer park

*yawn*

Fact: Barnes used old and outdated information to represent present day
standings. For example, voter registration from 2001 and 2003.
Fact: Barnes still has SEVERAL claims he refuses to back up. So lets
talk about "runs away".

Good for you. Take it up with him. He speaks for himself.

Fact: Barnes knows he is lying and is bragging now that he hides his
identity and he seems to be under the impression that he can NOT be
indentified.

:s/Fact/Your opinion

Fact: He can

See above.

Fact: I used his same game, by making a statement he would have to
repeat, and to use that statement to stand by his claims. Barnes
refuses to do this.
Want to talk about running away?
Now, what's your excuse?

Okay, Inspector Clouseau: tell me what the middle digit of my SSN is, and in
what state it was issued.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 08:15:55 AM
The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:


Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child abuse
and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what
your legislators do except that you are to follow the laws
they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as
they are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says I am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except
that I am to follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find
your dishonesty to be pathetic. It's par for the course with a
liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:


Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.


Fact: Barnes, one of your buddies, ran away from his own game.


Take it up with him, then.

No, I am going to take it up with you coward. As long as you like to
foam at the mouth with your obsession over me, I shall direct my
comments towards you as well. If you wish to be a fool, who follows
another fool...then by all means..remain a fool.
You're still having trouble with distinguishing

between groups and individuals, as usual.

Fact: He used an address and claimed there is a mobile home there and a
trailer park.
Fact: I provided an aerial photograph that clearly shows..
a) No mobile home
and
b) No trailer park


*yawn*

Fact: Barnes used old and outdated information to represent present day
standings. For example, voter registration from 2001 and 2003.


Fact: Barnes still has SEVERAL claims he refuses to back up. So lets
talk about "runs away".


Good for you. Take it up with him. He speaks for himself.

You follow the fool, I shall direct my comments to you as well.


Fact: Barnes knows he is lying and is bragging now that he hides his
identity and he seems to be under the impression that he can NOT be
indentified.


:s/Fact/Your opinion

Fact: He can


See above.

Fact: I used his same game, by making a statement he would have to
repeat, and to use that statement to stand by his claims. Barnes
refuses to do this.


Want to talk about running away?


Now, what's your excuse?


Okay, Inspector Clouseau: tell me what the middle digit of my SSN is, and in
what state it was issued.

I don't have the access for that type of information, and unlike
YOU...I don't go trying to pry and snoop, to gather information.
That's something only a low life like yourself will do. However, I do
have the contacts with law enforcement agents who can gather that
information, if you should want to do something to get their attention.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 11:12:20 AM
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

[...]

<snip>
Change your record, its old!!!

Translation:
Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.

Fact: Barnes, one of your buddies, ran away from his own game.

Take it up with him, then.

No, I am going to take it up with you coward. As long as you like to
foam at the mouth with your obsession over me, I shall direct my
comments towards you as well. If you wish to be a fool, who follows
another fool...then by all means..remain a fool.

Too much of a coward to deal with the one you're obsessed with? Same sorry
tactic, different day.

You're still having trouble with distinguishing
between groups and individuals, as usual.

Fact: He used an address and claimed there is a mobile home there and a
trailer park.
Fact: I provided an aerial photograph that clearly shows..
a) No mobile home
and
b) No trailer park

*yawn*

Fact: Barnes used old and outdated information to represent present day
standings. For example, voter registration from 2001 and 2003.
Fact: Barnes still has SEVERAL claims he refuses to back up. So lets
talk about "runs away".

Good for you. Take it up with him. He speaks for himself.

You follow the fool, I shall direct my comments to you as well.

So, you're an attention *****. I still don't think the GOP is going to
consider you for some post in the American Reich.

Fact: Barnes knows he is lying and is bragging now that he hides his
identity and he seems to be under the impression that he can NOT be
indentified.

:s/Fact/Your opinion

Fact: He can

See above.

Fact: I used his same game, by making a statement he would have to
repeat, and to use that statement to stand by his claims. Barnes
refuses to do this.
Want to talk about running away?
Now, what's your excuse?

Okay, Inspector Clouseau: tell me what the middle digit of my SSN is, and
in what state it was issued.

I don't have the access for that type of information, and unlike
YOU...I don't go trying to pry and snoop, to gather information.

Neither do I. Your IP tells the world where you are, so quit whining at me
(or anyone else) for noticing what you broadcast in every article. (Thanks
for owning up to the likelihood that you'd get rightly slapped if you
explained to your employers why you needed my SSN.)

That's something only a low life like yourself will do. However, I do
have the contacts with law enforcement agents who can gather that
information, if you should want to do something to get their attention.

No one's buying your scam, Bobby of Nazareth. Do something unprecedented -
like your job.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 10:02:35 AM
In article <1158671755.802345.88720@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:


Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child

abuse

and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about

what

your legislators do except that you are to follow the laws
they enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide,

and I

NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as
they are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says I am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except
that I am to follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find
your dishonesty to be pathetic. It's par for the course with a
liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions,

and I

said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now

and I

would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them.
Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:


Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.


Fact: Barnes, one of your buddies, ran away from his own game.


Take it up with him, then.


No, I am going to take it up with you coward. As long as you like to
foam at the mouth with your obsession over me, I shall direct my
comments towards you as well. If you wish to be a fool, who follows
another fool...then by all means..remain a fool.


You're still having trouble with distinguishing

between groups and individuals, as usual.

Fact: He used an address and claimed there is a mobile home there and a
trailer park.
Fact: I provided an aerial photograph that clearly shows..
a) No mobile home
and
b) No trailer park


*yawn*

Fact: Barnes used old and outdated information to represent present day
standings. For example, voter registration from 2001 and 2003.


Fact: Barnes still has SEVERAL claims he refuses to back up. So lets
talk about "runs away".


Good for you. Take it up with him. He speaks for himself.


You follow the fool, I shall direct my comments to you as well.


Fact: Barnes knows he is lying and is bragging now that he hides his
identity and he seems to be under the impression that he can NOT be
indentified.


:s/Fact/Your opinion

Fact: He can


See above.

Fact: I used his same game, by making a statement he would have to
repeat, and to use that statement to stand by his claims. Barnes
refuses to do this.


Want to talk about running away?


Now, what's your excuse?


Okay, Inspector Clouseau: tell me what the middle digit of my SSN is, and
in
what state it was issued.


I don't have the access for that type of information, and unlike
YOU...I don't go trying to pry and snoop, to gather information.
That's something only a low life like yourself will do. However, I do
have the contacts with law enforcement agents who can gather that
information, if you should want to do something to get their attention.

State employees in Delaware seem bored shitless.
.

User: "Emily Plath"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 02:49:42 PM
osprey wrote:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

Okay, Inspector Clouseau: tell me what the middle digit of my SSN is, and in
what state it was issued.

I don't have the access for that type of information, and unlike
YOU...I don't go trying to pry and snoop, to gather information.

So that was the *real* Bob Heishman who dug up information about the
wrong Patrick Humphrey and David Barnes?
.



User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 10:02:35 AM
In article <1158662222.597985.303140@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child abuse
and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what

your

legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they

enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as
they
are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am
to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty
to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:

Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.


Fact: Barnes, one of your buddies, ran away from his own game.

Whatever that means.


Fact: He used an address and claimed there is a mobile home there and a
trailer park.
Fact: I provided an aerial photograph that clearly shows..
a) No mobile home
and
b) No trailer park

Fact: Osprey now admits he "used to" live in a mobile home after
swearing it was never true.


Fact: Barnes used old and outdated information to represent present day
standings. For example, voter registration from 2001 and 2003.

Fact: I never said it was anything else.


Fact: Barnes still has SEVERAL claims he refuses to back up. So lets
talk about "runs away".

All backed up. Run and hide, coward.


Fact: Barnes knows he is lying and is bragging now that he hides his
identity and he seems to be under the impression that he can NOT be
indentified.

Yo have been claiming to know who I am. Your lies catching up with you?


Fact: He can

Yes, "he can."


Fact: I used his same game, by making a statement he would have to
repeat, and to use that statement to stand by his claims. Barnes
refuses to do this.

You begged me to tell you who I am, you mean. Fine. My real name is
Gurn Blanston.


Want to talk about running away?

Now, what's your excuse?

How does it feel to be a coward?
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 10:12:52 AM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158662222.597985.303140@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who teach
their children about God, it should be considered child abuse
and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about what

your

legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they

enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide, and I
NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who do
decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions as
they
are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that I am
to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your dishonesty
to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out of
context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions, and I
said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now and I
would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one in
here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them. Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:

Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.


Fact: Barnes, one of your buddies, ran away from his own game.


Whatever that means.


Fact: He used an address and claimed there is a mobile home there and a
trailer park.
Fact: I provided an aerial photograph that clearly shows..
a) No mobile home
and
b) No trailer park


Fact: Osprey now admits he "used to" live in a mobile home after
swearing it was never true.

Fact: Barnes said I currently live in a mobile home and that's not
true. Barnes also said I live in a trailer park, and that was NEVER
true.



Fact: Barnes used old and outdated information to represent present day
standings. For example, voter registration from 2001 and 2003.


Fact: I never said it was anything else.

Yes you did, you claimed I am still registered as a Republican and you
pull out records three years old.



Fact: Barnes still has SEVERAL claims he refuses to back up. So lets
talk about "runs away".


All backed up. Run and hide, coward.

From: "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:32:20 -0400
Message-ID: <jgkeegan-0B9627.08322014092006@individual.net>
there is no other way to take it but that you intended to deceive.
you made a claim.
you could not support it.
yes, you failed to withdraw it.
that reflects not only your intent to deceive in this specific
instance but your overall character.



Fact: Barnes knows he is lying and is bragging now that he hides his
identity and he seems to be under the impression that he can NOT be
indentified.


Yo have been claiming to know who I am. Your lies catching up with you?


Fact: He can


Yes, "he can."


Fact: I used his same game, by making a statement he would have to
repeat, and to use that statement to stand by his claims. Barnes
refuses to do this.


You begged me to tell you who I am, you mean. Fine. My real name is
Gurn Blanston.


Want to talk about running away?

Now, what's your excuse?


How does it feel to be a coward?

I wouldn't know, but I can ask you. You are to cowardly to say.
We will see if you show up in Delaware like you said you would.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 10:26:54 AM
In article <1158678771.401816.186370@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158662222.597985.303140@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1158612288.517759.136720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:35:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:19 -0700, osprey hat geschreibt:


You were the one who said you think that Parents who

teach

their children about God, it should be considered child

abuse

and should be outlawed.


You were the one who said that you are unconcerned about

what

your

legislators do except that you are to follow the laws they

enact.


I did NOT say that and I find your dishonesty to be

pathetic.


These were your exact words: "It's not up to me to decide,

and I

NEVER said it was. However, our legislators are the ones who

do

decide, and as I said, I do support the current restrictions

as

they
are set now."


And when we look at my exact words we don not find anything that
says I
am unconcerned about what my legislators are doing except that

I am

to
follow the laws they enact...so once again, I find your

dishonesty

to
be pathetic. It's par for the course with a liberal though.


You have taken a statement of mine and taken it completely out

of

context. I was talking about the laws that govern abortions,

and I

said I do support the current restrictions as they are set now

and I

would not like to see abortion rights taken away from women.


Now, my question is this for liberals. Is there an honest one

in

here??? Anywhere???


Me.


From the liberal who has taken public documents, forged them.
Claimed


<snip>


Change your record, its old!!!


Translation:

Heishman runs away again. No film at 10.


Fact: Barnes, one of your buddies, ran away from his own game.


Whatever that means.


Fact: He used an address and claimed there is a mobile home there and a
trailer park.
Fact: I provided an aerial photograph that clearly shows..
a) No mobile home
and
b) No trailer park


Fact: Osprey now admits he "used to" live in a mobile home after
swearing it was never true.


Fact: Barnes said I currently live in a mobile home and that's not
true. Barnes also said I live in a trailer park, and that was NEVER
true.

The documents say otherwise.





Fact: Barnes used old and outdated information to represent present day
standings. For example, voter registration from 2001 and 2003.


Fact: I never said it was anything else.


Yes you did, you claimed I am still registered as a Republican and you
pull out records three years old.

I see nothing to indicate otherwise.




Fact: Barnes still has SEVERAL claims he refuses to back up. So lets
talk about "runs away".


All backed up. Run and hide, coward.


From: "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:32:20 -0400
Message-ID: <jgkeegan-0B9627.08322014092006@individual.net>


there is no other way to take it but that you intended to deceive.

you made a claim.
you could not support it.
yes, you failed to withdraw it.

that reflects not only your intent to deceive in this specific
instance but your overall character.



Fact: Barnes knows he is lying and is bragging now that he hides his
identity and he seems to be under the impression that he can NOT be
indentified.


Yo have been claiming to know who I am. Your lies catching up with you?


Fact: He can


Yes, "he can."


Fact: I used his same game, by making a statement he would have to
repeat, and to use that statement to stand by his claims. Barnes
refuses to do this.


You begged me to tell you who I am, you mean. Fine. My real name is
Gurn Blanston.


Want to talk about running away?

Now, what's your excuse?


How does it feel to be a coward?


I wouldn't know, but I can ask you. You are to cowardly to say.
We will see if you show up in Delaware like you said you would.

Do I have to show up just anywhere, or did you have a specific in mind?
I have to go to the east coast for a deposition in a month or so.
Where would you like to meet, meat?
.



User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Women Want to Know of Abortion Risks Beforehand, New Survey Shows 19 Sep 2006 11:14:01 AM
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


The Chief Instigator wrote:

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow