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http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-01-08-faith-edit_x.htm
Is God dead in Europe?
By James P. Gannon
Two snapshots from a recent tourist trip to Europe: We are in Prague,
the lovely and lively capital of the Czech Republic, where the bars
and cafes are full, the glitzy crystal and art shops are busy, and the
dozens of historic cathedrals and churches are largely empty - except
for gawking tourists snapping photos. In The Prague Post, an
English-language weekly newspaper, a front-page article reports, in
titillating detail, how the city has become Europe's new capital for
pornographic filmmaking, while an op-ed examines why only 19% of the
people in this once-religious country believe that God exists.
Change the scene to Rome. We are at the Vatican, swimming in a sea of
150,000 people waiting in St. Peter's Square for Pope Benedict XVI to
appear at a special celebration for Catholic children who have made
their first communion in the past year. Rock bands and kids' choirs
entertain the faithful until a roar sweeps through the crowd at the
first sighting of the "Popemobile," carrying the waving, white-robed
Benedict down barricaded lanes through the throng. The crowd goes
wild.
For an American Catholic visitor, Europe is a puzzling and sometimes
discouraging place these days. Is God dead here? Many signs suggest
that Europeans think so.
Decline in attendance
"Common wisdom has it that alcoholics outnumber practicing Christians
and that more Czechs believe in UFOs than believe in God - and common
wisdom may be correct," wrote Nate and Leah Seppanen Anderson in a
Prague Post commentary; he's a freelance writer, and she's a political
science professor at Wheaton College in Illinois and a specialist in
Czech politics and society. Surveys show a sharp decline in church
attendance and religious practice in most European countries. A series
of Eurobarometer surveys since 1970 in five key countries (France,
Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and Italy) shows that regular church
attendance fell from about 40% of the population to about half that
figure. Declines were sharpest in predominantly Catholic nations.
Even so, how do we account for the extraordinary outpouring of grief
at Pope John Paul II's death in April and the enthusiasm that his
successor seems to evoke? Are these mere public spectacles, signifying
nothing about Europe's drift from its religious roots, or are they
signs of yearning for something more than peace, prosperity and la
dolce vita?
As only an occasional visitor to Europe, I claim no expertise in these
matters. But some who do see the emergence of a post-Christian era in
Europe that has profound consequences for the continent and perhaps is
an ominous portend for the United States. Where Europe has gone,
America could be going - and that is a prospect that is frightening
Christians and sharpening the religious divide in this country.
Western Europe, the cradle of modern Christianity, has become a
"post-Christian society" in which the ruling class and cultural
leaders are anti-religious or "Christophobic," writes George Weigel, a
Catholic columnist and U.S. biographer of Pope John Paul II. In his
new book, The Cube and the Cathedral: Europe, America, and Politics
Without God, he argues that religious differences help explain the
policy tensions between Europe and the United States.
"It would be too simple to say that the reason Americans and Europeans
see the world so differently is that the former go to church on
Sundays and the latter don't," Weigel writes. "But it would also be a
grave mistake to think that the dramatic differences in religious
belief and practice in the United States and Europe don't have
something important to do with those different perceptions of the
world - and the different policies to which those perceptions
eventually lead."
A fierce controversy over any mention of Europe's Christian heritage
erupted in 2004 when officials were drafting a constitution for the
European Union, Weigel notes.
Any mention of the continent's religious past or contributions of
Christian culture - in a preface citing the sources of Europe's
distinct civilization - would be exclusionary and offensive to
non-Christians, many argued. Former French president Valery Giscard
d'Estaing, who presided over the process, summed up the dominant view:
"Europeans live in a purely secular political system, where religion
does not play an important role."
'Demographic suicide'
Among the consequences of Europe's abandonment of its religious roots
and the moral code that derives therefrom is a plunge in its birth
rates to below the replacement level. Abortion, birth control,
acceptance of gay marriage and casual sex are driving the trend.
Europe is "committing demographic suicide, systematically depopulating
itself," according to Weigel.
United Nations population statistics back him up.
Not a single Western European country has a fertility rate sufficient
to replace the current population, which demographers say requires 2.1
children per family. Germany, Russia, Spain, Poland and Italy all have
rates of about 1.3 children, according to the U.N. The Czech
Republic's is less than 1.2, and even Roman Catholic Ireland is at 1.9
children. (The U.S. rate, which has remained stable, is slightly more
than 2 children per woman.)
Fifteen countries, "mostly located in Southern and Eastern Europe,
have reached levels of fertility unprecedented in human history,"
according to the U.N.'s World Population Prospects 2004 revision.
As children grow scarce and longevity increases in Europe, the
continent is becoming one vast Leisure World. By 2050, the U.N.
projects, more than 40% of the people in Italy will be 60 or older. By
mid-century, populations in 25 European nations will be lower than
they are now; Russia will lose 31 million people, Italy 7.2 million,
Poland 6.6 million and Germany 3.9 million. So Europe is abandoning
religion, growing older, shrinking and slowly killing itself. These
are signs of a society in eclipse - the Roman Empire writ large. Is
this any model for America?
In his 2001 book, The Death of the West, conservative commentator
Patrick Buchanan argues that a European-style "de-Christianization of
America" is the goal of many liberals - and they are succeeding.
Court decisions that have banned school-sponsored prayer, removed many
Nativity scenes from public squares, and legalized gay marriage are
part of that pattern, as is the legal effort to erase "In God We
Trust" from U.S. currency and "under God" from the Pledge of
Allegiance.
Europe is showing us where this path leads. It is not the right path
for America.
James P. Gannon is a retired journalist and author of A Life in Print:
Selections from the Work of a Reporter, Columnist and Editor.
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12 Jan 2006 03:23:11 PM |
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Get a life.
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12 Jan 2006 08:25:02 PM |
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In <1137099794.334246.312480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "words of
truth" <truth760@lycos.com> wrote:
World's Most Atheist Country Is The Europe's "Capital Of Pornography"
So what?
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| User: "D.K." |
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12 Jan 2006 04:58:58 PM |
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In article <1137099794.334246.312480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "words of truth" <truth760@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-01-08-faith-edit_x.htm
Two snapshots from a recent tourist trip to Europe: We are in Prague,
the lovely and lively capital of the Czech Republic, where the bars
and cafes are full, the glitzy crystal and art shops are busy, and the
dozens of historic cathedrals and churches are largely empty - except
for gawking tourists snapping photos. In The Prague Post, an
English-language weekly newspaper, a front-page article reports, in
titillating detail, how the city has become Europe's new capital for
pornographic filmmaking, while an op-ed examines why only 19% of the
people in this once-religious country believe that God exists.
Add to this great beer at unbeatable prices and lovely looking
women everywhere. A great place to be!
DK
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| User: "satyr" |
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12 Jan 2006 11:31:43 PM |
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On 12 Jan 2006 13:03:14 -0800, "words of truth" <truth760@lycos.com>
wrote:
As children grow scarce and longevity increases in Europe, the
continent is becoming one vast Leisure World. By 2050, the U.N.
projects, more than 40% of the people in Italy will be 60 or older. By
mid-century, populations in 25 European nations will be lower than
they are now; Russia will lose 31 million people, Italy 7.2 million,
Poland 6.6 million and Germany 3.9 million. So Europe is abandoning
religion, growing older, shrinking and slowly killing itself.
Well, it's not the Europe of the utopian 1930s or the vibrant 1940s,
but I think Europe is more culturally alive than America.
What is this Christian fetish with reproduction? Most of us live in
concentrated urban areas. Do any of us think that the world would be
just a little nicer if another million people were living in our city?
Is this part of your bigger is better, eat my Monster Thickburger
while I drive my Hummer size fixation? Is it part of your mythology
that if a lot is good, then a lot more must be a lot better?
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6505575/
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "erikc" |
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13 Jan 2006 01:23:58 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:31:43 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote:
On 12 Jan 2006 13:03:14 -0800, "words of truth" <truth760@lycos.com>
wrote:
As children grow scarce and longevity increases in Europe, the
continent is becoming one vast Leisure World. By 2050, the U.N.
projects, more than 40% of the people in Italy will be 60 or older. By
mid-century, populations in 25 European nations will be lower than
they are now; Russia will lose 31 million people, Italy 7.2 million,
Poland 6.6 million and Germany 3.9 million. So Europe is abandoning
religion, growing older, shrinking and slowly killing itself.
Well, it's not the Europe of the utopian 1930s or the vibrant 1940s,
but I think Europe is more culturally alive than America.
What is this Christian fetish with reproduction? Most of us live in
concentrated urban areas. Do any of us think that the world would be
just a little nicer if another million people were living in our city?
Is this part of your bigger is better, eat my Monster Thickburger
while I drive my Hummer size fixation? Is it part of your mythology
that if a lot is good, then a lot more must be a lot better?
It is the American way: Some is good, more is better, too much is just right.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6505575/
Ohhh yummy! -- gotta get one. I could go for two whole days on just one.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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| User: "kujebak" |
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13 Jan 2006 04:42:24 PM |
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satyr wrote:
On 12 Jan 2006 13:03:14 -0800, "words of truth" <truth760@lycos.com>
wrote:
As children grow scarce and longevity increases in Europe, the
continent is becoming one vast Leisure World. By 2050, the U.N.
projects, more than 40% of the people in Italy will be 60 or older. By
mid-century, populations in 25 European nations will be lower than
they are now; Russia will lose 31 million people, Italy 7.2 million,
Poland 6.6 million and Germany 3.9 million. So Europe is abandoning
religion, growing older, shrinking and slowly killing itself.
Well, it's not the Europe of the utopian 1930s or the vibrant 1940s,
but I think Europe is more culturally alive than America.
It's alive alright, with hedonism, degeneracy, and social decay.
What is this Christian fetish with reproduction? Most of us live in
concentrated urban areas. Do any of us think that the world would be
just a little nicer if another million people were living in our city?
More people will live in your town regardless of whether you
chose ethnic suicide or not. They just won't speak the same
language, or share the same culture. Which may really not
be such a bleak prospect :-)
Is this part of your bigger is better, eat my Monster Thickburger
while I drive my Hummer size fixation? Is it part of your mythology
that if a lot is good, then a lot more must be a lot better?
Hasn't Darwin told us that growh and adaptaptation are fundamental
prerequisites for continued survival of any natural, social, or
economic
system in a nonstatic environment? Or are you just purblind enviro-
nazi ignoramus?
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| User: "satyr" |
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16 Jan 2006 01:16:16 AM |
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On 13 Jan 2006 14:42:24 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
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satyr wrote:
On 12 Jan 2006 13:03:14 -0800, "words of truth" <truth760@lycos.com>
wrote:
As children grow scarce and longevity increases in Europe, the
continent is becoming one vast Leisure World. By 2050, the U.N.
projects, more than 40% of the people in Italy will be 60 or older. By
mid-century, populations in 25 European nations will be lower than
they are now; Russia will lose 31 million people, Italy 7.2 million,
Poland 6.6 million and Germany 3.9 million. So Europe is abandoning
religion, growing older, shrinking and slowly killing itself.
Well, it's not the Europe of the utopian 1930s or the vibrant 1940s,
but I think Europe is more culturally alive than America.
It's alive alright, with hedonism, degeneracy, and social decay.
Like the kind of degeneracy that leads to torturing prisoners and
denying health care to the poor?
What is this Christian fetish with reproduction? Most of us live in
concentrated urban areas. Do any of us think that the world would be
just a little nicer if another million people were living in our city?
More people will live in your town regardless of whether you
chose ethnic suicide or not. They just won't speak the same
language, or share the same culture. Which may really not
be such a bleak prospect :-)
If it doesn't bother me and it doesn't bother you, why are you so
excited about it?
Is this part of your bigger is better, eat my Monster Thickburger
while I drive my Hummer size fixation? Is it part of your mythology
that if a lot is good, then a lot more must be a lot better?
Hasn't Darwin told us that growh and adaptaptation are fundamental
prerequisites for continued survival of any natural, social, or
economic
system in a nonstatic environment?
Uhhh, no. Darwin taught us that biological adaptations which improved
reproductive success would become more common. While growth
(increased size) could be one of those adaptations, so could
decreasing size depending on how the environment is changing. Darwin
did not teach anything about sociology or economics.
Or are you just purblind enviro-
nazi ignoramus?
Let's see. You are the one concerned about "ethnic suicide" and
advocating social Darwinism. And I am a nazi? Hmmm.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "kujebak" |
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16 Jan 2006 02:41:13 PM |
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satyr wrote:
On 13 Jan 2006 14:42:24 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
wrote:
It's alive alright, with hedonism, degeneracy, and social decay.
Like the kind of degeneracy that leads to torturing prisoners and
denying health care to the poor?
Health care is a commodity provided by highly
trained professional tradesmen. A free society
cannot grant a basic entitlement to health care,
any more than to anything else of economic value.
The only two legitimate reasons for dispensing free
medical care are public health, and charity. Any
policy that downplays the role of market economics
in health care will result in decreased availability
and quality of care for everyone, as this example
clearly indicates:
http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/
What is this Christian fetish with reproduction? Most of us live in
concentrated urban areas. Do any of us think that the world would be
just a little nicer if another million people were living in our city?
More people will live in your town regardless of whether you
chose ethnic suicide or not. They just won't speak the same
language, or share the same culture. Which may really not
be such a bleak prospect :-)
If it doesn't bother me and it doesn't bother you, why are you so
excited about it?
Because it does bother me. Because I deplore your
cultural fatalism. Because I do want my own descendants
to be able to live by the same values, and enjoy the same
lifestyle as I have. Because I think my European heritage
is worth preserving.
Is this part of your bigger is better, eat my Monster Thickburger
while I drive my Hummer size fixation? Is it part of your mythology
that if a lot is good, then a lot more must be a lot better?
Hasn't Darwin told us that growh and adaptaptation are fundamental
prerequisites for continued survival of any natural, social, or
economic
system in a nonstatic environment?
Uhhh, no. Darwin taught us that biological adaptations which improved
reproductive success would become more common. While growth
(increased size) could be one of those adaptations, so could
decreasing size depending on how the environment is changing. Darwin
did not teach anything about sociology or economics.
Are you disputing the demographic indications
brought out in the original post, or are you just
an immature smartass intent only on having the
last word?
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| User: "satyr" |
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17 Jan 2006 12:21:14 AM |
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On 16 Jan 2006 12:41:13 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
wrote:
satyr wrote:
On 13 Jan 2006 14:42:24 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
wrote:
It's alive alright, with hedonism, degeneracy, and social decay.
Like the kind of degeneracy that leads to torturing prisoners and
denying health care to the poor?
Health care is a commodity provided by highly
trained professional tradesmen. A free society
cannot grant a basic entitlement to health care,
any more than to anything else of economic value.
The only two legitimate reasons for dispensing free
medical care are public health, and charity. Any
policy that downplays the role of market economics
in health care will result in decreased availability
and quality of care for everyone, as this example
clearly indicates:
OK, you are so smart, answer this: We all know that the richest
country without nationalized health insurance is the US. What is the
second richest country?
http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/
What is this Christian fetish with reproduction? Most of us live in
concentrated urban areas. Do any of us think that the world would be
just a little nicer if another million people were living in our city?
More people will live in your town regardless of whether you
chose ethnic suicide or not. They just won't speak the same
language, or share the same culture. Which may really not
be such a bleak prospect :-)
If it doesn't bother me and it doesn't bother you, why are you so
excited about it?
Because it does bother me. Because I deplore your
cultural fatalism. Because I do want my own descendants
to be able to live by the same values, and enjoy the same
lifestyle as I have. Because I think my European heritage
is worth preserving.
Deutschland uber alles.
Is this part of your bigger is better, eat my Monster Thickburger
while I drive my Hummer size fixation? Is it part of your mythology
that if a lot is good, then a lot more must be a lot better?
Hasn't Darwin told us that growh and adaptaptation are fundamental
prerequisites for continued survival of any natural, social, or
economic
system in a nonstatic environment?
Uhhh, no. Darwin taught us that biological adaptations which improved
reproductive success would become more common. While growth
(increased size) could be one of those adaptations, so could
decreasing size depending on how the environment is changing. Darwin
did not teach anything about sociology or economics.
Are you disputing the demographic indications
brought out in the original post, or are you just
an immature smartass intent only on having the
last word?
I am not disputing them or affirming them. I am just disputing the
pessimistic prognosis that a declining birth rate portends the end of
civilization.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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17 Jan 2006 03:13:01 AM |
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"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote in message
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On 16 Jan 2006 12:41:13 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
wrote:
satyr wrote:
On 13 Jan 2006 14:42:24 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
wrote:
It's alive alright, with hedonism, degeneracy, and social decay.
Like the kind of degeneracy that leads to torturing prisoners and
denying health care to the poor?
Health care is a commodity provided by highly
trained professional tradesmen. A free society
cannot grant a basic entitlement to health care,
any more than to anything else of economic value.
The only two legitimate reasons for dispensing free
medical care are public health, and charity. Any
policy that downplays the role of market economics
in health care will result in decreased availability
and quality of care for everyone, as this example
clearly indicates:
OK, you are so smart, answer this: We all know that the richest
country without nationalized health insurance is the US. What is the
second richest country?
There are no rich or poor countries, only countries
that are free, and those that are coerced by whatever
ideology or creed. China is now number two in terms
of overall GDP, yet only 122nd on per capita basis.
The reason the US is still at the top in both categories
is because we have always insisted on doing things
our own way. As far as assessing the state of Chinese
health care, I can only draw on my experience from
growing up in communist Czechoslovakia, and let me
assure you, there is nothing to brag about.
I am not sure what your point is.
http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/
What is this Christian fetish with reproduction? Most of us live in
concentrated urban areas. Do any of us think that the world would be
just a little nicer if another million people were living in our
city?
More people will live in your town regardless of whether you
chose ethnic suicide or not. They just won't speak the same
language, or share the same culture. Which may really not
be such a bleak prospect :-)
If it doesn't bother me and it doesn't bother you, why are you so
excited about it?
Because it does bother me. Because I deplore your
cultural fatalism. Because I do want my own descendants
to be able to live by the same values, and enjoy the same
lifestyle as I have. Because I think my European heritage
is worth preserving.
Deutschland uber alles.
Typical liberal retort.
Happy MLK Day to you too ;-)
Is this part of your bigger is better, eat my Monster Thickburger
while I drive my Hummer size fixation? Is it part of your mythology
that if a lot is good, then a lot more must be a lot better?
Hasn't Darwin told us that growh and adaptaptation are fundamental
prerequisites for continued survival of any natural, social, or
economic
system in a nonstatic environment?
Uhhh, no. Darwin taught us that biological adaptations which improved
reproductive success would become more common. While growth
(increased size) could be one of those adaptations, so could
decreasing size depending on how the environment is changing. Darwin
did not teach anything about sociology or economics.
Are you disputing the demographic indications
brought out in the original post, or are you just
an immature smartass intent only on having the
last word?
I am not disputing them or affirming them. I am just disputing the
pessimistic prognosis that a declining birth rate portends the end of
civilization.
No, it does not portend the end of civilization, only
the end of civilization as we know today. Perhaps
in your mind that is not such a bad thing, but I am
terrified of the prospects facing my children, and
grandchildren.
http://tinyurl.com/a9ba3
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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19 Jan 2006 12:02:34 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:13:01 GMT, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
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"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote in message
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On 16 Jan 2006 12:41:13 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
wrote:
satyr wrote:
On 13 Jan 2006 14:42:24 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
wrote:
It's alive alright, with hedonism, degeneracy, and social decay.
Like the kind of degeneracy that leads to torturing prisoners and
denying health care to the poor?
Health care is a commodity provided by highly
trained professional tradesmen. A free society
cannot grant a basic entitlement to health care,
any more than to anything else of economic value.
The only two legitimate reasons for dispensing free
medical care are public health, and charity. Any
policy that downplays the role of market economics
in health care will result in decreased availability
and quality of care for everyone, as this example
clearly indicates:
OK, you are so smart, answer this: We all know that the richest
country without nationalized health insurance is the US. What is the
second richest country?
There are no rich or poor countries, only countries
that are free, and those that are coerced by whatever
ideology or creed. China is now number two in terms
of overall GDP, yet only 122nd on per capita basis.
Per capita is the only logical way of measuring.
The reason the US is still at the top in both categories
Not according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Of course, it isn't a perfect measure. For instance it doesn't take
into account income disparity which is very great in the US.
is because we have always insisted on doing things
our own way. As far as assessing the state of Chinese
health care, I can only draw on my experience from
growing up in communist Czechoslovakia, and let me
assure you, there is nothing to brag about.
The Czech Republic is only 40th in per capita GDP (less than half the
US), so it wouldn't be surprising that the standard might be lower
even today. But there are many nations, both richer and poorer, which
provide good to excellent health care to all regardless of ability to
pay.
I am not sure what your point is.
My point is that in the US, you can be ruined by health care costs
through absolutely no fault of your own. i don't think that happens
in most prosperous countries.
http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/
What is this Christian fetish with reproduction? Most of us live in
concentrated urban areas. Do any of us think that the world would be
just a little nicer if another million people were living in our
city?
More people will live in your town regardless of whether you
chose ethnic suicide or not. They just won't speak the same
language, or share the same culture. Which may really not
be such a bleak prospect :-)
If it doesn't bother me and it doesn't bother you, why are you so
excited about it?
Because it does bother me. Because I deplore your
cultural fatalism. Because I do want my own descendants
to be able to live by the same values, and enjoy the same
lifestyle as I have. Because I think my European heritage
is worth preserving.
Deutschland uber alles.
Typical liberal retort.
Happy MLK Day to you too ;-)
Is this part of your bigger is better, eat my Monster Thickburger
while I drive my Hummer size fixation? Is it part of your mythology
that if a lot is good, then a lot more must be a lot better?
Hasn't Darwin told us that growh and adaptaptation are fundamental
prerequisites for continued survival of any natural, social, or
economic
system in a nonstatic environment?
Uhhh, no. Darwin taught us that biological adaptations which improved
reproductive success would become more common. While growth
(increased size) could be one of those adaptations, so could
decreasing size depending on how the environment is changing. Darwin
did not teach anything about sociology or economics.
Are you disputing the demographic indications
brought out in the original post, or are you just
an immature smartass intent only on having the
last word?
I am not disputing them or affirming them. I am just disputing the
pessimistic prognosis that a declining birth rate portends the end of
civilization.
No, it does not portend the end of civilization, only
the end of civilization as we know today. Perhaps
in your mind that is not such a bad thing, but I am
terrified of the prospects facing my children, and
grandchildren.
http://tinyurl.com/a9ba3
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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19 Jan 2006 11:22:07 AM |
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satyr wrote:
Per capita is the only logical way of measuring.
The reason the US is still at the top in both categories
Not according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Of course, it isn't a perfect measure. For instance it doesn't take
into account income disparity which is very great in the US.
is because we have always insisted on doing things
our own way. As far as assessing the state of Chinese
health care, I can only draw on my experience from
growing up in communist Czechoslovakia, and let me
assure you, there is nothing to brag about.
The Czech Republic is only 40th in per capita GDP (less than half the
US), so it wouldn't be surprising that the standard might be lower
even today. But there are many nations, both richer and poorer, which
provide good to excellent health care to all regardless of ability to
pay.
I am not sure what your point is.
My point is that in the US, you can be ruined by health care costs
through absolutely no fault of your own. i don't think that happens
in most prosperous countries.
Czechlosavakia was ruined by Hitler, WWII
and years of incompetent Marxist domination,
thanks to Russia.
Health costs have been the least of their worries
for 50 years.
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"A power so great, it can only be used for Good or Evil!"
- Firesign Theater "The Giant Rat of Summatra"
Cheerful Charlie
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18 Jan 2006 04:49:49 PM |
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kujebak wrote:
"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote in message
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On 16 Jan 2006 12:41:13 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
wrote:
satyr wrote:
On 13 Jan 2006 14:42:24 -0800, "kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
wrote:
It's alive alright, with hedonism, degeneracy, and social decay.
Like the kind of degeneracy that leads to torturing prisoners and
denying health care to the poor?
Health care is a commodity provided by highly
trained professional tradesmen. A free society
cannot grant a basic entitlement to health care,
any more than to anything else of economic value.
The only two legitimate reasons for dispensing free
medical care are public health, and charity. Any
policy that downplays the role of market economics
in health care will result in decreased availability
and quality of care for everyone, as this example
clearly indicates:
OK, you are so smart, answer this: We all know that the richest
country without nationalized health insurance is the US. What is the
second richest country?
There are no rich or poor countries, only countries
that are free, and those that are coerced by whatever
ideology or creed. China is now number two in terms
of overall GDP, yet only 122nd on per capita basis.
The reason the US is still at the top in both categories
is because we have always insisted on doing things
our own way. As far as assessing the state of Chinese
health care, I can only draw on my experience from
growing up in communist Czechoslovakia, and let me
assure you, there is nothing to brag about.
I am not sure what your point is.
http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/
What is this Christian fetish with reproduction? Most of us live in
concentrated urban areas. Do any of us think that the world would be
just a little nicer if another million people were living in our
city?
More people will live in your town regardless of whether you
chose ethnic suicide or not. They just won't speak the same
language, or share the same culture. Which may really not
be such a bleak prospect :-)
If it doesn't bother me and it doesn't bother you, why are you so
excited about it?
Because it does bother me. Because I deplore your
cultural fatalism. Because I do want my own descendants
to be able to live by the same values, and enjoy the same
lifestyle as I have. Because I think my European heritage
is worth preserving.
Deutschland uber alles.
Typical liberal retort.
Happy MLK Day to you too ;-)
Is this part of your bigger is better, eat my Monster Thickburger
while I drive my Hummer size fixation? Is it part of your mythology
that if a lot is good, then a lot more must be a lot better?
Hasn't Darwin told us that growh and adaptaptation are fundamental
prerequisites for continued survival of any natural, social, or
economic
system in a nonstatic environment?
Uhhh, no. Darwin taught us that biological adaptations which improved
reproductive success would become more common. While growth
(increased size) could be one of those adaptations, so could
decreasing size depending on how the environment is changing. Darwin
did not teach anything about sociology or economics.
Are you disputing the demographic indications
brought out in the original post, or are you just
an immature smartass intent only on having the
last word?
I am not disputing them or affirming them. I am just disputing the
pessimistic prognosis that a declining birth rate portends the end of
civilization.
No, it does not portend the end of civilization, only
the end of civilization as we know today. Perhaps
in your mind that is not such a bad thing, but I am
terrified of the prospects facing my children, and
grandchildren.
You apparently live in America. Why do you care?
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12 Jan 2006 03:30:31 PM |
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On 12 Jan 2006 13:03:14 -0800, "words of truth" <truth760@lycos.com>
wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-01-08-faith-edit_x.htm
Is God dead in Europe?
By James P. Gannon
Two snapshots from a recent tourist trip to Europe: We are in Prague,
the lovely and lively capital of the Czech Republic, where the bars
and cafes are full, the glitzy crystal and art shops are busy, and the
dozens of historic cathedrals and churches are largely empty
And the beer's cheap - sounds like paradise to me.
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| User: "Bonfire of the Deities..." |
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12 Jan 2006 03:29:02 PM |
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Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
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| User: "Dr Anton" |
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12 Jan 2006 03:57:15 PM |
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"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" <Bodfgnfire@tefrt.com> wrote in message
news:ySzxf.67380$Cj5.52325@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
You are wrong - old fart !!!
DrA
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| User: "655321" |
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13 Jan 2006 08:43:17 PM |
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In article <2b420$43c6d0b8$186054f9$3221@KNOLOGY.NET>,
"Dr Anton" <dontbugme@cz.com> wrote:
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" <Bodfgnfire@tefrt.com> wrote in message
news:ySzxf.67380$Cj5.52325@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
You are wrong - old fart !!!
Empty assertion coupled with empty personal attack. Nice "work." Lemme
guess: You're, what, seven years old?
655321
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12 Jan 2006 04:01:27 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:57:15 -0500, "Dr Anton" <dontbugme@cz.com>
wrote:
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" <Bodfgnfire@tefrt.com> wrote in message
news:ySzxf.67380$Cj5.52325@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
You are wrong - old fart !!!
DrA
Prove him wrong!
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12 Jan 2006 07:52:02 PM |
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"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
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| User: "Anarchist" |
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14 Jan 2006 06:05:59 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
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| User: "bob young" |
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14 Jan 2006 07:42:03 PM |
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Anarchist wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Eeeeeerm....you mean,like your logic ?
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| User: "Anarchist" |
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14 Jan 2006 08:08:21 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C9A803.4D6877E9@netvigator.com...
Anarchist wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Eeeeeerm....you mean,like your logic ?
Presisely like my logic, and yet nothing like it.
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14 Jan 2006 01:32:45 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:05:59 +1100, "Anarchist" <l@m.n> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Kind of like Schrodinger's cat?
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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14 Jan 2006 07:39:03 PM |
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"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:kckis1dp5ss9hsl7u3ujif6f6nmbmr9lgv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:05:59 +1100, "Anarchist" <l@m.n> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Kind of like Schrodinger's cat?
God is the Schroedinger's cat, and yet it is not!
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| User: "Paul J Kriha" |
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15 Jan 2006 12:52:55 AM |
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Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message news:43c9a7b7$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:kckis1dp5ss9hsl7u3ujif6f6nmbmr9lgv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:05:59 +1100, "Anarchist" <l@m.n> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Kind of like Schrodinger's cat?
God is the Schroedinger's cat, and yet it is not!
Since Schroedinger was the one who invented the thought
experiment involving a cat it's Schroedinger who must have
been the supreme being. Or was it his mother?
pjk
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15 Jan 2006 04:52:04 AM |
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"Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43c9f09d@clear.net.nz...
Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message news:43c9a7b7$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:kckis1dp5ss9hsl7u3ujif6f6nmbmr9lgv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:05:59 +1100, "Anarchist" <l@m.n> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Kind of like Schrodinger's cat?
God is the Schroedinger's cat, and yet it is not!
Since Schroedinger was the one who invented the thought
experiment involving a cat it's Schroedinger who must have
been the supreme being. Or was it his mother?
pjk
Schroedinger is a supreme being, and yet he is not.
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| User: "Paul J Kriha" |
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15 Jan 2006 08:53:15 AM |
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Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message news:43ca2955$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43c9f09d@clear.net.nz...
Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message news:43c9a7b7$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:kckis1dp5ss9hsl7u3ujif6f6nmbmr9lgv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:05:59 +1100, "Anarchist" <l@m.n> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Kind of like Schrodinger's cat?
God is the Schroedinger's cat, and yet it is not!
Since Schroedinger was the one who invented the thought
experiment involving a cat it's Schroedinger who must have
been the supreme being. Or was it his mother?
Schroedinger is a supreme being, and yet he is not.
This all is a playful, funny, and intelligent conversation, and
at the same time it is nothing of the sort.
Ha!
We are doomed forever, our friend Werner Karl already told us:
To establish the meaning of what we read we have to ignore its
validity, while to ascertain the validity we must ignore the meaning.
pjk
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15 Jan 2006 09:38:32 AM |
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"Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43ca612e$1@clear.net.nz...
Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message news:43ca2955$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43c9f09d@clear.net.nz...
Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message
news:43c9a7b7$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:kckis1dp5ss9hsl7u3ujif6f6nmbmr9lgv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:05:59 +1100, "Anarchist" <l@m.n> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and
yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Kind of like Schrodinger's cat?
God is the Schroedinger's cat, and yet it is not!
Since Schroedinger was the one who invented the thought
experiment involving a cat it's Schroedinger who must have
been the supreme being. Or was it his mother?
Schroedinger is a supreme being, and yet he is not.
This all is a playful, funny, and intelligent conversation, and
at the same time it is nothing of the sort.
This is a very clever statement and a very intelligent interesting
conversation, and yet on second thought it is not.
Ha!
We are doomed forever, our friend Werner Karl already told us:
To establish the meaning of what we read we have to ignore its
validity, while to ascertain the validity we must ignore the meaning.
I do not know who "werner karl" is. Who is he? Why should I care what he
said? Who are you to tell me that I am doomed?
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15 Jan 2006 10:53:59 AM |
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Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message news:43ca6c78$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43ca612e$1@clear.net.nz...
Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message news:43ca2955$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43c9f09d@clear.net.nz...
Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message
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"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:kckis1dp5ss9hsl7u3ujif6f6nmbmr9lgv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:05:59 +1100, "Anarchist" <l@m.n> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and
yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Kind of like Schrodinger's cat?
God is the Schroedinger's cat, and yet it is not!
Since Schroedinger was the one who invented the thought
experiment involving a cat it's Schroedinger who must have
been the supreme being. Or was it his mother?
Schroedinger is a supreme being, and yet he is not.
This all is a playful, funny, and intelligent conversation, and
at the same time it is nothing of the sort.
This is a very clever statement and a very intelligent interesting
conversation, and yet on second thought it is not.
Ha!
We are doomed forever, our friend Werner Karl already told us:
To establish the meaning of what we read we have to ignore its
validity, while to ascertain the validity we must ignore the meaning.
I do not know who "werner karl" is. Who is he?
Heisenberg.
I noticed, you knew how to spell Schroedinger correctly,
so I thought you'd know Heisenberg's full name too.
Why should I care what he
said? Who are you to tell me that I am doomed?
Thou shan't defy Heisenberg, little Planck.
pjk
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15 Jan 2006 07:51:38 PM |
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"Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43ca7d95@clear.net.nz...
Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message news:43ca6c78$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43ca612e$1@clear.net.nz...
Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message
news:43ca2955$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43c9f09d@clear.net.nz...
Anarchist <l@m.n> wrote in message
news:43c9a7b7$4@clarion.carno.net.au...
"erikc" <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:kckis1dp5ss9hsl7u3ujif6f6nmbmr9lgv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:05:59 +1100, "Anarchist" <l@m.n> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43C7075F.B485363@netvigator.com...
"'Bonfire of the Deities...'" wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God's dead *everywhere*, sonny...!!!
Bonf.
[minor correction.]
God cannot technically be dead, since no god ever existed.
God is both dead and alive at the same time, it is everywhere and
yet
nowhere, is always existed and yet it never existed.
Kind of like Schrodinger's cat?
God is the Schroedinger's cat, and yet it is not!
Since Schroedinger was the one who invented the thought
experiment involving a cat it's Schroedinger who must have
been the supreme being. Or was it his mother?
Schroedinger is a supreme being, and yet he is not.
This all is a playful, funny, and intelligent conversation, and
at the same time it is nothing of the sort.
This is a very clever statement and a very intelligent interesting
conversation, and yet on second thought it is not.
Ha!
We are doomed forever, our friend Werner Karl already told us:
To establish the meaning of what we read we have to ignore its
validity, while to ascertain the validity we must ignore the meaning.
I do not know who "werner karl" is. Who is he?
Heisenberg.
I noticed, you knew how to spell Schroedinger correctly,
so I thought you'd know Heisenberg's full name too.
Why should I care what he
said? Who are you to tell me that I am doomed?
Thou shan't defy Heisenberg, little Planck.
Look, I know physics. I also know who invented what - but thats not
particularly important, is it? So ***** off!
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On 12 Jan 2006 13:03:14 -0800, words of truth wrote:
Is God dead in Europe?
God was never alive. Learn to understand what reality is about. Every
scintilla of it is proof thet nobody and nothing is running the show.
Wishing otherwise don't make it so, it just makes you a fool.
--
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208, HB #6
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