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26 Dec 2006 01:57:30 AM |
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Worship God not technology, Pope says on Christmas |
Technology has given us many things to make our lives better. What has
religion given us?
Have a nice Solstice, Benny.
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Worship God not technology, Pope says on Christmas
By Philip Pullella
Mon Dec 25, 8:43 AM ET
Mankind, which has reached other planets and decoded the genetic
instructions for life, should not presume it can live without God, Pope
Benedict said in his Christmas message on Monday.
In an age of unbridled consumerism it was shameful many remained deaf to
the "heart-rending cry" of those dying of hunger, thirst, disease,
poverty, war and terrorism, he said.
"Does a 'Saviour' still have any value and meaning for the men and women
of the third millennium?" he asked in his "Urbi et Orbi" (to the city
and the world) message to the faithful in St Peter's Square, broadcast
live to millions in 40 countries.
"Is a 'Saviour' still needed by a humanity which has reached the moon
and Mars and is prepared to conquer the universe; for a humanity which
knows no limits in its pursuit of nature's secrets and which has
succeeded even in deciphering the marvelous codes of the human genome?"
He appealed for peace and justice in the Middle East, an end to the
brutal violence in Iraq and to the fratricidal conflict in Darfur and
other parts of Africa, and expressed his hope for "a democratic Lebanon."
In a separate, written message to the small Christian communities of the
Middle East, the Pope said he hoped to visit the Holy Land as soon as
the situation allowed.
Speaking to tens of thousands of people in a sunny square, he wished the
world a Happy Christmas in 62 languages -- including Arabic, Hebrew,
Mongolian and Latin -- but his speech highlighted his preoccupation with
humanity's fate.
SUFFERING HUMANITY
Marking the second Christmas season of his pontificate, he said that
while 21st century man appeared to be a master of his own destiny,
"perhaps he needs a saviour all the more" because much of humanity was
suffering.
"People continue to die of hunger and thirst, disease and poverty, in
this age of plenty and of unbridled consumerism," he said from the
central balcony of Christendom's largest church.
"Some people remain enslaved, exploited and stripped of their dignity;
others are victims of racial and religious hatred, hampered by
intolerance and discrimination, and by political interference and
physical or moral coercion with regard to the free profession of their
faith.
"Others see their own bodies and those of their dear ones, particularly
their children, maimed by weaponry, by terrorism and by all sorts of
violence, at a time when everyone invokes and acclaims progress,
solidarity and peace for all."
The Pope also made reference to the controversial case of Piergiorgio
Welby, a paralyzed Italian man who was denied a Catholic funeral because
he had asked to die.
"What are we to think of those who choose death in the belief that they
are celebrating life?" he said.
Welby, an advocate of euthanasia, died on Wednesday after a doctor gave
him sedatives and detached a respirator that had kept the victim of
advanced muscular dystrophy alive for years.
In his midnight mass for some 10,000 people in St. Peter's Basilica
earlier on Monday, the Pope said the image of the baby Jesus in a manger
should remind everyone of the plight of poor, abused and neglected
children the world over.
At that mass a member of the congregation read a prayer in Arabic asking
God to encourage "a spirit of dialogue, mutual understanding and
collaboration" among followers of the three great monotheistic religions
-- Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061225/ts_nm/christmas_pope_dc
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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26 Dec 2006 03:32:56 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:57:30 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
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In an age of unbridled consumerism it was shameful many remained deaf to
the "heart-rending cry" of those dying of hunger, thirst, disease,
poverty, war and terrorism, he said.
So why doesn't your "omni-good" God feed them, Benny?
"Does a 'Saviour' still have any value and meaning for the men and women
of the third millennium?"
Not if he allows "those dying of hunger, thirst, disease, poverty, war
and terrorism" to keep on "dying of hunger, thirst, disease, poverty,
war and terrorism".
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Worship God not technology, Pope says on Christmas |
27 Dec 2006 12:32:37 AM |
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In article <l353p2pimnkp4fgapdg5oonkh94jl9tq01@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:57:30 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In an age of unbridled consumerism it was shameful many remained deaf to
the "heart-rending cry" of those dying of hunger, thirst, disease,
poverty, war and terrorism, he said.
So why doesn't your "omni-good" God feed them, Benny?
He's too busy counting the take from last Sunday's collection.
"Does a 'Saviour' still have any value and meaning for the men and women
of the third millennium?"
Not if he allows "those dying of hunger, thirst, disease, poverty, war
and terrorism" to keep on "dying of hunger, thirst, disease, poverty,
war and terrorism".
Exactly. Why worship a being that is absolutely useless?
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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26 Dec 2006 04:03:35 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:57:30 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Technology has given us many things to make our lives better. What has
religion given us?
Have a nice Solstice, Benny.
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Worship God not technology, Pope says on Christmas
The man is mad - nobody "worships" technology outside his deluded
imagination.
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Dec 2006 12:46:54 AM |
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In article <gps1p2l882m62btidnb8sp5sku2tkl0m7m@4ax.com>,
Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:57:30 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Technology has given us many things to make our lives better. What has
religion given us?
Have a nice Solstice, Benny.
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Worship God not technology, Pope says on Christmas
The man is mad - nobody "worships" technology outside his deluded
imagination.
True. I don't recall ever seeing a 'Technological Church'.
It's their way of projecting. They believe that everybody has to take
part in some form of irrational worship.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "MarkA" |
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26 Dec 2006 08:59:13 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:57:30 -0800, johac wrote:
Technology has given us many things to make our lives better. What has
religion given us?
Have a nice Solstice, Benny.
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Worship God not technology, Pope says on Christmas
By Philip Pullella
Mon Dec 25, 8:43 AM ET
Mankind, which has reached other planets and decoded the genetic
instructions for life, should not presume it can live without God, Pope
Benedict said in his Christmas message on Monday.
I agree. We can, however, do without those who claim to speak for god.
In an age of unbridled consumerism it was shameful many remained deaf to
the "heart-rending cry" of those dying of hunger, thirst, disease,
poverty, war and terrorism, he said.
Like the people in AIDS infested Africa, who are being taught that it is
sinful to use a condom? It's enough to make me suspect that the RCC is in
the business of manufacturing victims.
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MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Dec 2006 12:39:14 AM |
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In article <pan.2006.12.26.14.59.13.550121@stopspam.net>,
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:57:30 -0800, johac wrote:
Technology has given us many things to make our lives better. What has
religion given us?
Have a nice Solstice, Benny.
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Worship God not technology, Pope says on Christmas
By Philip Pullella
Mon Dec 25, 8:43 AM ET
Mankind, which has reached other planets and decoded the genetic
instructions for life, should not presume it can live without God, Pope
Benedict said in his Christmas message on Monday.
I agree. We can, however, do without those who claim to speak for god.
True.
In an age of unbridled consumerism it was shameful many remained deaf to
the "heart-rending cry" of those dying of hunger, thirst, disease,
poverty, war and terrorism, he said.
Like the people in AIDS infested Africa, who are being taught that it is
sinful to use a condom? It's enough to make me suspect that the RCC is in
the business of manufacturing victims.
The recent popes should be added to the infamous list of mass murderers
for the millions who have died and will die from AIDS, other diseases,
and starvation in underdeveloped and overpopulated parts of the world.
<snip>
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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26 Dec 2006 03:34:03 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:59:13 -0500, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net>
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Like the people in AIDS infested Africa, who are being taught that it is
sinful to use a condom? It's enough to make me suspect that the RCC is in
the business of manufacturing victims.
Suspect? Salvation REQUIRES victims. Who else do you save?
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