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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Andres64"
Date: 31 Aug 2007 06:50:02 AM
Object: Would you...
choose to believe in God if you could?
I'm somewhat ambivalent about this. On one hand, it would be nice to
believe that there is a God watching over us, that loves us and has a
plan for us (I'm reminded of a line from one of my favorite movies of
all times - Dogma, in which Bethany says something to the effect of
"I'd give anything to feel that way again." (referring to the belief
as noted above). I mean, wouldn't it be nice to believe that there is
a parent always watching over you and protecting you? OTOH, I hate
the idea of ignorance, self-delusion, powerlessness/dependence and
fear that religion brings.
I guess, in the end, I'd still choose the reality of this world over
the fantasy of religion.
.

User: "Christopher A.Lee"

Title: Re: Would you... 31 Aug 2007 07:31:46 PM
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:53:49 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:12:10 -0700,

wrote:

On Aug 31, 7:50 am, Andres64 <andres...@excite.com> wrote:

choose to believe in God if you could?


I think "if you could" is the phrase that I can't quite wrap my head
around. I can't unlearn something I've learned. Once something is
discovered, it's not often forgotten. I'm one of those that thinks
once the genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back.


So, you believe in Genies, then?

Barbara Eden....mmm
.
User: "Hatter"

Title: Re: Would you... 01 Sep 2007 10:47:26 AM
On Aug 31, 8:31 pm, Christopher A.Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:53:49 +0930, Michael Gray

<mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:12:10 -0700,

wrote:


On Aug 31, 7:50 am, Andres64 <andres...@excite.com> wrote:

choose to believe in God if you could?


I think "if you could" is the phrase that I can't quite wrap my head
around. I can't unlearn something I've learned. Once something is
discovered, it's not often forgotten. I'm one of those that thinks
once the genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back.


So, you believe in Genies, then?


Barbara Eden....mmm

Yes...Barbara Eden, that outfit, and the saying "Yes Master" gulp...so
plugs into my fantasies. Ok,
http://www.cyborgasmatrix.com/png/Pandora/Best%20of%20Pandora/Final/WebAlbum/pages/Peaks-Genie02_jpg.htm
is even more my fantasies, but hey.....I'm just a dirty old man
Hatter
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Would you... 08 Sep 2007 03:47:14 PM
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:31:46 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:53:49 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:12:10 -0700,

wrote:

On Aug 31, 7:50 am, Andres64 <andres...@excite.com> wrote:

choose to believe in God if you could?


I think "if you could" is the phrase that I can't quite wrap my head
around. I can't unlearn something I've learned. Once something is
discovered, it's not often forgotten. I'm one of those that thinks
once the genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back.


So, you believe in Genies, then?


Barbara Eden....mmm

:)
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Would you... 08 Sep 2007 12:01:59 PM
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:50:02 -0700, Andres64 <andresc64@excite.com>
wrote:

choose to believe in God if you could?

At best, a benign one which eliminates the abrahamic's.
However, in such a case, why not 'roll your own?'

I'm somewhat ambivalent about this. On one hand, it would be nice to
believe that there is a God watching over us, that loves us and has a
plan for us (I'm reminded of a line from one of my favorite movies of
all times - Dogma, in which Bethany says something to the effect of
"I'd give anything to feel that way again." (referring to the belief
as noted above). I mean, wouldn't it be nice to believe that there is
a parent always watching over you and protecting you? OTOH, I hate
the idea of ignorance, self-delusion, powerlessness/dependence and
fear that religion brings.

I guess, in the end, I'd still choose the reality of this world over
the fantasy of religion.

I do just fine myself. I don't need an imaginary crutch to function.
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Would you... 31 Aug 2007 07:21:58 PM
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:50:02 -0700, Andres64 <andresc64@excite.com>
wrote:

choose to believe in God if you could?

This makes no sense whatsoever.
One quite simplay CANNOT choose to believe in something for which
there is zero evidence for, and 100% evidence against.
Unless one is grossly mentally unbalanced.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Would you... 31 Aug 2007 01:05:02 PM
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:50:02 -0700, Andres64 wrote:

choose to believe in God if you could?

No.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Just because it's inexplicted doesn't mean it's inexplicable."
- Dr. House
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