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"Dr. Newto Joseph" |
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10 Jan 2007 06:44:03 PM |
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www.atheistfellowship.com |
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
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| User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" |
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10 Jan 2007 09:25:07 PM |
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"Dr. Newto Joseph" <drnjoseph@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
Hello Dr. Joseph.
I applaud your courageous presentation of free thought.
However I don't like the Darwin fish eating the IXOYE
fish on your main page. It seems instantly adversarial.
While I would rather others didn't believe in fairytales
but I respect their freedom of thought too (at least until they
try to impose it on others).
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rb #2187
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11 Jan 2007 04:04:44 AM |
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:25:07 -0800, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
<stoshu@bellsouth.net.po> wrote:
"Dr. Newto Joseph" <drnjoseph@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
Hello Dr. Joseph.
I applaud your courageous presentation of free thought.
However I don't like the Darwin fish eating the IXOYE
fish on your main page. It seems instantly adversarial.
While I would rather others didn't believe in fairytales
but I respect their freedom of thought too (at least until they
try to impose it on others).
Sorry for the long url below.
I don't know how to do it differently.
An aside...Hi there so called Doc.
I'm still here.
And you are still apparently a foaming at the mouth radical atheist
looking for a following and trying to impose your will on others
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_thread/thread/98d3c114a16b198a/498b6e5224629744?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=en#498b6e5224629744
The post referenced...
I checked his website Mickey.
I was first struck by this:
"A large collection of short articles by *World
renowned* atheist and Free Thinker, Dr. Newton Joseph."
If he created the site and maintains it he apparently has a very high
opinion of himself.
I tried but could find no references on the web to a "World reknowned"
Dr. Newton Joseph.
<Which I suppose could be irrelevant>
I also did a Google search and found a post in which he explains he is
looking for a large "audience."
He has a message to spread and is not opposed to using broad over
generalizations and attempts at inducing paranoia in his audience to
make a point against his target group.
<We've seen a number of believers do the same thing by lumping all
atheists together and insisting that we are responsible for every
atrocity commited aginst humanity and every fault in society>
He refers to religion as a "mental disorder" which un-nerves me a bit.
Not all manifestations of religious faith are pathological and not all
things that appear on the surface to be pathological truly are.
<I wonder what he thinks about Samual Cartwright's diagnosis of
drapetomania and dysathesia in American slaves?>
It makes me wonder if he feels believers should be forced into
treatment or denied some of the things he claims atheists would be
denied in his "THE UNITED CHRISTIAN STATES OF AMERICA" rant.
In his post "THE PATHOLOGY OF PRAYING,"
He states that "Praying is learned as children and becomes habit and
fixed over time.
When an adult prays, they are engaging in childish
behavior."
In 1987 Pennebaker, Hughes and O'Heeron concluded that:
"Trying to inhibit secret thoughts and feelings that embarrass us or
make us feel ashamed requires physical effort which is stressful and
can lead to long term emotional and physical problems."
People in general have a need to confide in someone but some things
are just too painful or shameful to do so.
Having a god to pray to, a being who can and will absolve us of our
crimes whether real or imagined can be a positive thing for many
people and help them live longer, happier and more productive lives.
When adults pray, they are not engaging in "childish" behavior but in
common "human" behavior.
In 1988 Shelley E. Taylor and Jonathon D. Brown concluded that "Well
being virtually depends on the illusions of overly positive self
evaluations."
<I'm good enough for Jesus> "Exaggerated perceptions of
control or mastery," <Prayer is an attempt to gain control by asking
God to intervene in a situation or offer insight on how we should
handle it> and "Unrealistic optimism," <Jesus loves me as I am and in
the end, everything will be alright.>
I really don't think our Ph.D. has a very good grip of his subject or
of human nature in general and that makes me suspicious of his claim
to advanced education in his professed field.
For all I know he could have a mail order degree that cost him nothing
but money.
If the Doc is what he claims to be <Which I doubt> I shudder to think
of the damage he may have caused to those who naively turned to him
expecting relief and came face to face with his almost unbelievably
narrow and shallow minded understanding of human nature and human
needs.
Being an atheist is neither an exceptional virtue or a thing to be
celebrated for or shamed by.
It just is what it is.
But the Doc wants to wear it on his sleeve like a badge of honor and
receive special consideration because of it.
And a radical atheist is no different than a radical of any other
stripe.
Peshaw!
atheist@home#1554
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14 Jan 2007 08:52:34 AM |
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Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The "fellowship" of atheists will always be limited by the fact that we
share only a mutual disbelief. You might be an atheist because you are
a research scientist or because you are a drug dealer.
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| User: "V" |
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11 Jan 2007 09:46:24 AM |
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Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool. I've always said that atheists need a church of sorts for
themselves, to support moral, ethical and right living. Without
continued support, we have the likes of the perennial fiends of shame
and hostly that run rampant at alt.athism.
"Victories attained by right thought can only be maintained by
watchfulness. Many give way when success is assured and rapidly fall
back into failure."As A Man Thinketh by James Allen.
The atheist that only has a foundation of ego and hate will never find
peace. If any theist questioning their faith should wonder onto
alt.atheism, for instance, they could see this for themselves with many
spiritually sick example members and their projection of this spiritual
sickness and self hate onto others.
There are many flavors of atheists. Beside natural atheists, personal
atheists, explicit atheists, implicit atheists weak atheists and strong
atheists and bad ***** atheists with attitude...Atheists can be
'spiritual based atheists' or 'defiance based atheists.' I have to
laugh sometimes when I read the fantasies of atheists that think
atheism will take over the world. It would take a different brand of
atheist to persuade many to change if they investigate the online
atheists of the usenet to any degree.
In short you must become spiritual based atheists to offer something to
the religious crowd instead of the defiance based atheists that many of
you are.
I suggest any atheists wishing to find inner peace within their life
adopt the creed of the atheists (their version of prepackaged morals)
and become secular humanists as a good first start.
The 'informal creed' of atheism.
An Atheist loves his fellow man instead of god. An Atheist believes
that heaven is something for which we should work now - here on earth
for all men together to enjoy.
An Atheist believes that he can get no help through prayer but that he
must find in himself the inner conviction, and strength to meet life,
to grapple with it, to subdue it and enjoy it.
An Atheist believes that only in a knowledge of himself and a knowledge
of his fellow man can he find the understanding that will help to a
life of fulfillment. He seeks to know himself and his fellow man rather
than to know a god. An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built
instead of a church.
An Atheist believes that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said.
An Atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death.
He wants disease conquered, poverty vanquished, war eliminated. He
wants man to understand and love man.
He wants an ethical way of life. He believes that we cannot rely on a
god or channel action into prayer nor hope for an end of troubles in a
hereafter.
He believes that we are our brother's keepers; and are keepers of our
own lives; that we are responsible persons and the job is here and the
time is now."
http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/
"The Affirmations of Humanism: A Statement of Principles"
=B7 We are committed to the application of reason and science to the
understanding of the universe and to the solving of human problems.
=B7 We deplore efforts to denigrate human intelligence, to seek to
explain the world in supernatural terms, and to look outside nature for
salvation.
=B7 We believe that scientific discovery and technology can contribute
to the betterment of human life.
=B7 We believe in an open and pluralistic society and that democracy is
the best guarantee of protecting human rights from authoritarian elites
and repressive majorities.
=B7 We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and
state.
=B7 We cultivate the arts of negotiation and compromise as a means of
resolving differences and achieving mutual understanding.
=B7 We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and
with eliminating discrimination and intolerance.
=B7 We believe in supporting the disadvantaged and the handicapped so
that they will be able to help themselves.
=B7 We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on race,
religion, gender, nationality, creed, class, sexual orientation, or
ethnicity, and strive to work together for the common good of humanity.
=B7 We want to protect and enhance the earth, to preserve it for future
generations, and to avoid inflicting needless suffering on other
species.
=B7 We believe in enjoying life here and now and in developing our
creative talents to their fullest.
=B7 We believe in the cultivation of moral excellence.
=B7 We respect the right to privacy. Mature adults should be allowed to
fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to
exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and
informed health-care, and to die with dignity.
=B7 We believe in the common moral decencies: altruism, integrity,
honesty, truthfulness, responsibility. Humanist ethics is amenable to
critical, rational guidance. There are normative standards that we
discover together. Moral principles are tested by their consequences.
=B7 We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children.
We want to nourish reason and compassion.
=B7 We are engaged by the arts no less than by the sciences.
=B7 We are citizens of the universe and are excited by discoveries
still to be made in the cosmos.
=B7 We are skeptical of untested claims to knowledge, and we are open
to novel ideas and seek new departures in our thinking.
=B7 We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of
despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal
significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others.
=B7 We believe in optimism rather than pessimism, hope rather than
despair, learning in the place of dogma, truth instead of ignorance,
joy rather than guilt or sin, tolerance in the place of fear, love
instead of hatred, compassion over selfishness, beauty instead of
ugliness, and reason rather than blind faith or irrationality.
=B7 We believe in the fullest realization of the best and noblest that
we are capable of as human beings.
Council for Secular Humanism
Take care,
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V (Male)
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Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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11 Jan 2007 11:04:25 AM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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| User: "satyr" |
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12 Jan 2007 12:06:05 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
So V, after midnight tomorrow, don't come here anymore. Just go to
the new web site. Here is the address:
http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
If we aren't there yet, just start blogging without us.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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12 Jan 2007 09:53:32 AM |
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"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get
over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
So V, after midnight tomorrow, don't come here anymore. Just go to
the new web site. Here is the address:
http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
If we aren't there yet, just start blogging without us.
<snicker, snortle> :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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12 Jan 2007 10:56:22 AM |
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:06:05 -0600, satyr wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
Don't be silly! We're converting it to iPod format so you can dance to it!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation
by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging
rational inquiry." - Richard Dawkins
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12 Jan 2007 11:28:47 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:06:05 -0600, satyr wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get
over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
Don't be silly! We're converting it to iPod format so you can dance to it!
Woohoo! I'll have to tell George so he can download it onto my section on
his iPod ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "V" |
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12 Jan 2007 01:38:29 PM |
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satyr wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
So V, after midnight tomorrow, don't come here anymore. Just go to
the new web site. Here is the address:
http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
If we aren't there yet, just start blogging without us.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
Am not interested in blogs. I participate only in forums.
V
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12 Jan 2007 07:10:21 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:38:29 -0800, V wrote:
satyr wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
So V, after midnight tomorrow, don't come here anymore. Just go to
the new web site. Here is the address:
http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
If we aren't there yet, just start blogging without us.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
Am not interested in blogs. I participate only in forums.
Then why are you here?
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Christianity is to religions as Windows
is to operating systems." - Scott (#1045)
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| User: "V" |
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14 Jan 2007 07:50:50 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:38:29 -0800, V wrote:
satyr wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
So V, after midnight tomorrow, don't come here anymore. Just go to
the new web site. Here is the address:
http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
If we aren't there yet, just start blogging without us.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
Am not interested in blogs. I participate only in forums.
Then why are you here?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Christianity is to religions as Windows
is to operating systems." - Scott (#1045)
This is a bulletin board forum Mark. You know why I am here Mark. I
have told you this many times.
Alt.atheismt is just where I ended up after being banned at the
Christian, Buddhist and other atheist forums. I tried agnostic forums
but not much participation. I have been on about 210 forums over the
last 9 years and have been banned from about 70% of them due to
prejudice. The vast majority of these forums have been dedicated to
personal improvement as well as spiritual studies, but the people that
run them seem to forget that.
The bible tells us in Phillipians 4:11 "For I have learned in whatever
situation I find myself to be content. I am experienced in living low
and I know what it is to have abundance. I have learned how to cope
with every circumstance - how to eat well or go hungry, to be well
provided for or to do without." Good advice whether religious minded or
atheist.
While Phillipians is not perfect advice for all occasions, it reminds
us to seek contentment and gratitude instead of dissatisfaction if
possible, if we wish to be at peace. Peace and contentment is not
limited to any one religion and is open to all...even at alt.atheism. I
thank everyone for their participation here.
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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15 Jan 2007 10:55:36 AM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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This is a bulletin board forum Mark.
No, it's not, you idiot.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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14 Jan 2007 09:12:36 AM |
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On 14 Jan 2007 05:50:50 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> in news message
<1168782650.441471.176640@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:38:29 -0800, V wrote:
[----]
Am not interested in blogs. I participate only in forums.
Then why are you here?
This is a bulletin board forum Mark.
No, it is not. You are very confused.
Liz #658 BAAWA
You can define anything you want, any way you want. Defining it as such
is not the same as offering real world evidence to support your
assertion. -- Woden
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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14 Jan 2007 08:30:35 AM |
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:50:50 -0800, V wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:38:29 -0800, V wrote:
satyr wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
So V, after midnight tomorrow, don't come here anymore. Just go to
the new web site. Here is the address:
http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
If we aren't there yet, just start blogging without us.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
Am not interested in blogs. I participate only in forums.
Then why are you here?
This is a bulletin board forum Mark.
No it isn't. It's a Usenet newsgroup.
You know why I am here Mark. I have told you this many times.
You miss my point.
Alt.atheismt is just where I ended up after being banned at the
Christian, Buddhist and other atheist forums. I tried agnostic forums
but not much participation. I have been on about 210 forums over the
last 9 years and have been banned from about 70% of them due to
prejudice.
It was not "prejudice." You deliberately and willfully provoke online
communities in order to obtain negative reactions. But you, being
incapable of taking responsibility for your actions, blame other people.
You most certainly show addictive behavior by even the definitions of the
12-step fad. You also demonstrate repeatedly on this newsgroup that you
are not, do not, and are not capable of dealing with the matter.
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
That's still not your number.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"For men become civilized, not in proportion to their
willingness to believe, but in proportion to their
readiness to doubt." - H.L. Mencken
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14 Jan 2007 10:49:54 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:50:50 -0800, V wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:38:29 -0800, V wrote:
satyr wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
So V, after midnight tomorrow, don't come here anymore. Just go to
the new web site. Here is the address:
http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
If we aren't there yet, just start blogging without us.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
Am not interested in blogs. I participate only in forums.
Then why are you here?
This is a bulletin board forum Mark.
No it isn't. It's a Usenet newsgroup.
You know why I am here Mark. I have told you this many times.
You miss my point.
Alt.atheismt is just where I ended up after being banned at the
Christian, Buddhist and other atheist forums. I tried agnostic forums
but not much participation. I have been on about 210 forums over the
last 9 years and have been banned from about 70% of them due to
prejudice.
It was not "prejudice." You deliberately and willfully provoke online
communities in order to obtain negative reactions. But you, being
incapable of taking responsibility for your actions, blame other people.
You most certainly show addictive behavior by even the definitions of the
12-step fad. You also demonstrate repeatedly on this newsgroup that you
are not, do not, and are not capable of dealing with the matter.
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
That's still not your number.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"For men become civilized, not in proportion to their
willingness to believe, but in proportion to their
readiness to doubt." - H.L. Mencken
Thanks for reply Mark. As an addict I need support of community to keep
on track. As such, I use this as my 'spiritual support' group. I do not
provoke anyone. I write from the agnostic view. I was told agnostics
are welcome here. I make no claim to being 100% atheist. I told you
that upfront. I do answer some complaints about me...are others allowed
to just dish it out and I have to take it with no response?
Believe me Mark, I'd rather be back at my old Buddhists forums where
they did not beat members down so much as alt.athsirm does. But I try
to make do with the tools I have at hand. I asked if you guys wished to
move this forum to a web base, moderated site and i'd move there, but
no one was willing.
I'd move to another atheist forum and leave here if there was one that
did not discriminate through banning me. Esangha, Tricycle, Shambhala,
Buddha Chat, 12 step Buddhists, Sangha-Pauahtun, eBuddhism, Basa, all
banned me...been banned or blocked at evil bible dot com, ethical
atheist, Internet infidels, X-Christians and others. At this point, I
have no substitute other than usenet Mark and I am grateful for this
community.
Why don't you take the advice as one wise member wrote and shun me?
That way my posts will not disturb your peace Mark and we can both
exist instead of you just existing.
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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15 Jan 2007 10:56:13 AM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for reply Mark. As an addict I need support of community to keep
on track.
Then why don't you go there.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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15 Jan 2007 11:05:42 AM |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:56:13 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
snip
Thanks for reply Mark. As an addict I need support of community to keep
on track.
Then why don't you go there.
Because he's an addict and he needs to feed his addiction.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Christianity is to religions as Windows
is to operating systems." - Scott (#1045)
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14 Jan 2007 02:54:03 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:49:54 -0800, V wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:50:50 -0800, V wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:38:29 -0800, V wrote:
satyr wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
So V, after midnight tomorrow, don't come here anymore. Just go to
the new web site. Here is the address:
http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
If we aren't there yet, just start blogging without us.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
Am not interested in blogs. I participate only in forums.
Then why are you here?
This is a bulletin board forum Mark.
No it isn't. It's a Usenet newsgroup.
You know why I am here Mark. I have told you this many times.
You miss my point.
Alt.atheismt is just where I ended up after being banned at the
Christian, Buddhist and other atheist forums. I tried agnostic forums
but not much participation. I have been on about 210 forums over the
last 9 years and have been banned from about 70% of them due to
prejudice.
It was not "prejudice." You deliberately and willfully provoke online
communities in order to obtain negative reactions. But you, being
incapable of taking responsibility for your actions, blame other people.
You most certainly show addictive behavior by even the definitions of the
12-step fad. You also demonstrate repeatedly on this newsgroup that you
are not, do not, and are not capable of dealing with the matter.
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
That's still not your number.
Thanks for reply Mark. As an addict I need support of community to keep
on track. As such, I use this as my 'spiritual support' group.
A group where you have no support is your "support" group?
Addicts lie.
I do not provoke anyone.
Definitely addicts lie.
I write from the agnostic view. I was told agnostics are
welcome here. I make no claim to being 100% atheist. I told you that
upfront. I do answer some complaints about me...are others allowed to
just dish it out and I have to take it with no response?
You came here to pick a fight now you claim you can't just "take it."
Addicts lie.
Believe me Mark, I'd rather be back at my old Buddhists forums where
they did not beat members down so much as alt.athsirm does.
You provoked them. You provoked us. You have provoked online group after
online group but told yourself it was everybody *else's fault.
More addict behavior.
But I try
to make do with the tools I have at hand. I asked if you guys wished to
move this forum to a web base, moderated site and i'd move there, but no
one was willing.
You don't *listen. You have no regard for others. Definitely addict
behavior. You're totally self-absorbed.
I'd move to another atheist forum and leave here if there was one that
did not discriminate through banning me. Esangha, Tricycle, Shambhala,
Buddha Chat, 12 step Buddhists, Sangha-Pauahtun, eBuddhism, Basa, all
banned me...been banned or blocked at evil bible dot com, ethical
atheist, Internet infidels, X-Christians and others. At this point, I
have no substitute other than usenet Mark and I am grateful for this
community.
You provoked them. You insulted them. You caused the problem.
But as is typical of addicts, you can't take the least bit of personal
responsibility.
You know, I've had to deal with alcoholics more times than I care to count
and I understand the behavior and the thinking quite well. And everything
you write *screams* addict at me. Despite your frequent babble about
12-step, you haven't gone *anywhere.
I'd bet money you're a white knuckle drunk, barely hanging on. You sure
haven't made it past step 3 if you've gone even that far. You are flat out
incapable of admitting you have flaws, you're arrogant, you provoke and
insult people to *get them to attack you then blame *them for *your
behavior, you're not only unwilling to "make amends" but are unwilling
to admit--despite the constant feedback from other human beings--that you
have done anything wrong, you not only are not unwilling to give up your
"shortcomings" but have built them into some kind of religion for which
you preen your ego every chance you get, and you couldn't do a "personal
inventory" if somebody had a gun to your head.
I've seen your kind a million times.
Why don't you take the advice as one wise member wrote and shun me? That
way my posts will not disturb your peace Mark and we can both exist
instead of you just existing.
You don't "disturb" me, you're not that important. And I'll ignore you
when I feel like it.
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
See what I mean? You essentially "stole" a number. You don't even
understand what the numbers are, you don't listen to what anybody says,
you don't *care what anybody thinks...
You want what you want when you want it.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each
other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest
forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement
in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
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12 Jan 2007 01:54:29 PM |
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V wrote:
satyr wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04:25 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168530384.102672.49760@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool.
Shut up, you retarded *****. No one has to do anything you want. Get over
yourself and shove you over-inflated ego up your *****.
But we want to, Robyn. We are even converting a.a to a web based blog
just like he wanted. It starts at midnight tomorrow.
So V, after midnight tomorrow, don't come here anymore. Just go to
the new web site. Here is the address:
http://dumbassidiots.blogspot.com/
If we aren't there yet, just start blogging without us.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
Am not interested in blogs. I participate only in forums.
V
Then go find one and get the ***** Usenet.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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11 Jan 2007 07:58:08 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:46:24 -0800, V wrote:
You do not get to tell us who we are, nor what we should be, nor what we
should think, nor how we should act.
Period.
Now get stuffed.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential of this kind
of world:.... a world in which oil reserves are controlled
by radicals in order to extract blackmail from the West..."
- George Bush
Wait... oil reserves?
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13 Jan 2007 04:40:57 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:58:08 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:46:24 -0800, V wrote:
You do not get to tell us who we are, nor what we should be, nor what we
should think, nor how we should act.
Well now...somebody's gotta do it.
Didn't you know that?
Else what are politics and religion all about?
<snip>
Anyway, I think about you frequently.
Very tough stuff you've been through.
How are you doing overall?
If you don't mind my asking.
atheist@home#1554
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13 Jan 2007 10:42:07 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:40:57 +0000, atheist wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:58:08 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:46:24 -0800, V wrote:
You do not get to tell us who we are, nor what we should be, nor what we
should think, nor how we should act.
Well now...somebody's gotta do it.
Didn't you know that?
Else what are politics and religion all about?
<snip>
Anyway, I think about you frequently.
Very tough stuff you've been through.
How are you doing overall?
If you don't mind my asking.
Generally better. Things are settling down. Though the aftermath is...
yeesh... fun. I'm severely overweight and have aches and pains and
allergies out the whazoo. I didn't realize just how bad a hit my health
had taken from the stress of the year from hell.
Most of that, though, is a matter of getting my (fat) butt back in gear
far as diet and exercise. So that's next month's challenge. I'm trying to
get past the estate crap and I have to run back to Louisiana later this
month to get the stuff I left in storage. Then I'll be done with the place.
(Though I still keep going back and forth over whether I'm going into the
city while I'm there. Still haven't set foot in the place since Katrina.)
That whole mess is increasingly behind me. I was right that getting out of
the area would help. I'm not just surrounded by things that remind me of
it all.
I do sometimes miss New Orleans but the New Orleans I miss is gone.
Whether it'll recover is still an open question. The news coming out of
there is just not good at all. I still wonder if the city I knew will ever
exist again even if they manage to recover.
Anyway. In short, I'm doing a hell of a lot better. Thanks for asking.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because
if there be one, He must approve the homage of Reason rather
than that of blindfolded Fear"
- Thomas Jefferson
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14 Jan 2007 07:41:32 PM |
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:42:07 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:40:57 +0000, atheist wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:58:08 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:46:24 -0800, V wrote:
You do not get to tell us who we are, nor what we should be, nor what we
should think, nor how we should act.
Well now...somebody's gotta do it.
Didn't you know that?
Else what are politics and religion all about?
<snip>
Anyway, I think about you frequently.
Very tough stuff you've been through.
How are you doing overall?
If you don't mind my asking.
Generally better. Things are settling down. Though the aftermath is...
yeesh... fun. I'm severely overweight and have aches and pains and
allergies out the whazoo. I didn't realize just how bad a hit my health
had taken from the stress of the year from hell.
It was without doubt a year from hell.
Those sorts of things do terrible things to us.
Sometimes even when we think we have it all together we don't.
My memory went to hell in a handbasket from my two or three
nightmarish years and I still don't have it all together.
Over time though I've been amazed at at how well I thought I was
handling things only to realize now that I was just going through the
motions.
It does get somewhat better with time however though never forgotten.
Most of that, though, is a matter of getting my (fat) butt back in gear
far as diet and exercise.
Same here.
I make myself all sorts of promises that I have trouble keeping
regarding the health issues.
So that's next month's challenge. I'm trying to
get past the estate crap and I have to run back to Louisiana later this
month to get the stuff I left in storage. Then I'll be done with the place.
Any special difficulties with the estate because of the circumstances?
Or is that too personal?
(Though I still keep going back and forth over whether I'm going into the
city while I'm there. Still haven't set foot in the place since Katrina.)
I've been there once and was awed by it.
That whole mess is increasingly behind me. I was right that getting out of
the area would help. I'm not just surrounded by things that remind me of
it all.
Making new friends?
Still Austin right?
I do sometimes miss New Orleans but the New Orleans I miss is gone.
Whether it'll recover is still an open question. The news coming out of
there is just not good at all. I still wonder if the city I knew will ever
exist again even if they manage to recover.
I don't know.
The city has a lot of history and was a special place.
It's heartbreaking and still a bit spooky to think about what happened
there.
Apparently quite a few of the displaced folks, some of who grew up
there have decided not to go back.
Personally I don't know how anybody who experienced what the people of
New Orleans did could ever recover emotionally.
I can't even imagine what it must have been like.
Anyway. In short, I'm doing a hell of a lot better. Thanks for asking.
I'm glad you are doing better :-)
atheist@home#1554
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15 Jan 2007 10:21:27 AM |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:41:32 +0000, atheist wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:42:07 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:40:57 +0000, atheist wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:58:08 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:46:24 -0800, V wrote:
You do not get to tell us who we are, nor what we should be, nor what we
should think, nor how we should act.
Well now...somebody's gotta do it.
Didn't you know that?
Else what are politics and religion all about?
<snip>
Anyway, I think about you frequently.
Very tough stuff you've been through.
How are you doing overall?
If you don't mind my asking.
Generally better. Things are settling down. Though the aftermath is...
yeesh... fun. I'm severely overweight and have aches and pains and
allergies out the whazoo. I didn't realize just how bad a hit my health
had taken from the stress of the year from hell.
It was without doubt a year from hell.
Those sorts of things do terrible things to us.
Sometimes even when we think we have it all together we don't.
My memory went to hell in a handbasket from my two or three
nightmarish years and I still don't have it all together.
Over time though I've been amazed at at how well I thought I was
handling things only to realize now that I was just going through the
motions.
I was running non-stop. Especially from June of '05 to October same year.
I even did something nasty to my ankle while boarding up for Katrina and
couldn't see a doctor for two or so weeks. Took a while for him to get
back and open his office (and what fun he was having, his daughter lived
in the city, she evacuated but lost *everything... then Rita flooded *his
house).
By the beginning of '06, I felt like I was falling apart. Every single
ache, pain, sneeze, and sniffle I'd ignored jumped me. I know from about
October of '05 into about March of '06, I was on auto-pilot. I don't quite
remember what I was doing those months. Weird.
It does get somewhat better with time however though never forgotten.
Most of that, though, is a matter of getting my (fat) butt back in gear
far as diet and exercise.
Same here.
I make myself all sorts of promises that I have trouble keeping
regarding the health issues.
I was in good shape in spring of '05. Almost down to my ideal weight
(maybe 10 pounds more to go). I'm starting back slowly but my motivation
comes in fits and starts. My brother actually uses my weights more than I
do. Oh well. I'll get there. I just want to get past this month, get the
estate closed, get my stuff out of storage over in Louisiana, and be done
with it all before I get too hyped up about anything.
So that's next month's challenge. I'm trying to
get past the estate crap and I have to run back to Louisiana later this
month to get the stuff I left in storage. Then I'll be done with the place.
Any special difficulties with the estate because of the circumstances?
Or is that too personal?
Not really. Just *tedious as all get out. I swear, you'd *think we were
talking about the estate of Donald Trump with all the hoops to jump
through. And he didn't have all *that much. But I have read it's not usual
these days for even ordinary estates (like this one) to drag on a year or
more. It's ridiculous.
(Though I still keep going back and forth over whether I'm going into the
city while I'm there. Still haven't set foot in the place since Katrina.)
I've been there once and was awed by it.
I'm still not sure I want to see it. I'll probably decide at the last
minute.
That whole mess is increasingly behind me. I was right that getting out of
the area would help. I'm not just surrounded by things that remind me of
it all.
Making new friends?
Still Austin right?
Actually, not doing much nor getting out much right now. Once I got this
place in a basic, livable state, I said "to hell with it all" for a while.
I notice I'm starting to get bored now though. I figured when I started
feeling bored, I'd be about ready to stop playing hermit. <g>
I do sometimes miss New Orleans but the New Orleans I miss is gone.
Whether it'll recover is still an open question. The news coming out of
there is just not good at all. I still wonder if the city I knew will ever
exist again even if they manage to recover.
I don't know.
The city has a lot of history and was a special place.
It's heartbreaking and still a bit spooky to think about what happened
there.
Apparently quite a few of the displaced folks, some of who grew up
there have decided not to go back.
And more people are starting to leave. Things are getting bad over there.
Personally I don't know how anybody who experienced what the people of
New Orleans did could ever recover emotionally.
I can't even imagine what it must have been like.
Anyway. In short, I'm doing a hell of a lot better. Thanks for asking.
I'm glad you are doing better :-)
Not bad. Though, today, me and the dogs are hunkering down and hoping the
power doesn't go out. Counties up in the hill country northwest of Austin
are already starting to ice and the whole sopping, wet, soggy area is
going below freezing tonight.
Wheeeeeeeee!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential of this kind
of world:.... a world in which oil reserves are controlled
by radicals in order to extract blackmail from the West..."
- George Bush
Wait... oil reserves?
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16 Jan 2007 04:43:50 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:41:32 +0000, atheist wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:42:07 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:40:57 +0000, atheist wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:58:08 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:46:24 -0800, V wrote:
You do not get to tell us who we are, nor what we should be, nor what we
should think, nor how we should act.
Well now...somebody's gotta do it.
Didn't you know that?
Else what are politics and religion all about?
<snip>
Anyway, I think about you frequently.
Very tough stuff you've been through.
How are you doing overall?
If you don't mind my asking.
Generally better. Things are settling down. Though the aftermath is...
yeesh... fun. I'm severely overweight and have aches and pains and
allergies out the whazoo. I didn't realize just how bad a hit my health
had taken from the stress of the year from hell.
It was without doubt a year from hell.
Those sorts of things do terrible things to us.
Sometimes even when we think we have it all together we don't.
My memory went to hell in a handbasket from my two or three
nightmarish years and I still don't have it all together.
Over time though I've been amazed at at how well I thought I was
handling things only to realize now that I was just going through the
motions.
I was running non-stop. Especially from June of '05 to October same year.
I even did something nasty to my ankle while boarding up for Katrina and
couldn't see a doctor for two or so weeks. Took a while for him to get
back and open his office (and what fun he was having, his daughter lived
in the city, she evacuated but lost *everything... then Rita flooded *his
house).
Damn!
What a nightmare.
By the beginning of '06, I felt like I was falling apart. Every single
ache, pain, sneeze, and sniffle I'd ignored jumped me. I know from about
October of '05 into about March of '06, I was on auto-pilot. I don't quite
remember what I was doing those months. Weird.
It can be weird.
You wouldn't believe the stuff I gave away after my wife died.
Some of it worth a bit of money.
People asked for certain things, said they knew I was thinking straight
and that if I wanted any of it back they would be happy to return it.
Not true of course and they were offended when I did ask for it.
I have two years after my wife and son died that I can't remember much
of anything.
Just a big blank spot and I'm amazed by what some folks tell me that I
did and didn't do.
Grief and stress can do very strange things to us.
It does get somewhat better with time however though never forgotten.
Most of that, though, is a matter of getting my (fat) butt back in gear
far as diet and exercise.
Same here.
I make myself all sorts of promises that I have trouble keeping
regarding the health issues.
I was in good shape in spring of '05. Almost down to my ideal weight
(maybe 10 pounds more to go). I'm starting back slowly but my motivation
comes in fits and starts. My brother actually uses my weights more than I
do. Oh well. I'll get there. I just want to get past this month, get the
estate closed, get my stuff out of storage over in Louisiana, and be done
with it all before I get too hyped up about anything.
Heh.
I've got all sorts of equipment in my garage and a sports club
membership and I'm not doing a thing with any of it.
I've gained far too much weight.
Last night I put together an air hocky table I bought for my
granddaughter and had to get on my knees to do it.
It actually hurt like hell.
And I'm always waiting for next month :-)
So that's next month's challenge. I'm trying to
get past the estate crap and I have to run back to Louisiana later this
month to get the stuff I left in storage. Then I'll be done with the place.
Any special difficulties with the estate because of the circumstances?
Or is that too personal?
Not really. Just *tedious as all get out. I swear, you'd *think we were
talking about the estate of Donald Trump with all the hoops to jump
through. And he didn't have all *that much. But I have read it's not usual
these days for even ordinary estates (like this one) to drag on a year or
more. It's ridiculous.
Mine was easier because no estate was filed.
That also saved me some money.
But then last year a company sent me a notice on a credit card debt
that my wife owed that was supposed to be forgiven because I wasn't on
the card and didn't know anything about it and due to some federal law
I had to pay taxes on it and that cost me $800.00.
It was a simple matter of them not doing their job when they were
supposed to.
The irony is that when I offered to pay the debt they declined telling
me I wasn't responsible for it.
Just more b.s. to have to deal with.
(Though I still keep going back and forth over whether I'm going into the
city while I'm there. Still haven't set foot in the place since Katrina.)
I've been there once and was awed by it.
I'm still not sure I want to see it. I'll probably decide at the last
minute.
That whole mess is increasingly behind me. I was right that getting out of
the area would help. I'm not just surrounded by things that remind me of
it all.
Making new friends?
Still Austin right?
Actually, not doing much nor getting out much right now. Once I got this
place in a basic, livable state, I said "to hell with it all" for a while.
I notice I'm starting to get bored now though. I figured when I started
feeling bored, I'd be about ready to stop playing hermit. <g>
It took me a couple of years to want to get out but I also took on some
new and wonderful responsiblities which helped tremendously.
Until then I didn't really give a damn about anything anymore.
Its my nature to be a sort of hermit but the getting out helps a lot.
I do sometimes miss New Orleans but the New Orleans I miss is gone.
Whether it'll recover is still an open question. The news coming out of
there is just not good at all. I still wonder if the city I knew will ever
exist again even if they manage to recover.
I don't know.
The city has a lot of history and was a special place.
It's heartbreaking and still a bit spooky to think about what happened
there.
Apparently quite a few of the displaced folks, some of who grew up
there have decided not to go back.
And more people are starting to leave. Things are getting bad over there.
Almost Biblical.
Is the entire city in pretty much the same shape?
Personally I don't know how anybody who experienced what the people of
New Orleans did could ever recover emotionally.
I can't even imagine what it must have been like.
Anyway. In short, I'm doing a hell of a lot better. Thanks for asking.
I'm glad you are doing better :-)
Not bad. Though, today, me and the dogs are hunkering down and hoping the
power doesn't go out. Counties up in the hill country northwest of Austin
are already starting to ice and the whole sopping, wet, soggy area is
going below freezing tonight.
Wheeeeeeeee!
Jeeze!
One morning you are going to wake up, spring will be in the air, the
sun will be shinning and it will all seem like a bad dream.
Hang in there :-)
atheist@home#1554
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential of this kind
of world:.... a world in which oil reserves are controlled
by radicals in order to extract blackmail from the West..."
- George Bush
Wait... oil reserves?
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11 Jan 2007 08:09:37 PM |
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V wrote:
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool. I've always said that atheists need a church of sorts for
themselves, to support moral, ethical and right living.
*****. I am not that weak. The only thing I need to "support moral,
ethical and right living" is simple human empathy and compassion. That
anyone would need anything else is a mystery to me. Perhaps I'm just a
better person than they are.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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12 Jan 2007 01:42:15 PM |
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wrote:
V wrote:
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool. I've always said that atheists need a church of sorts for
themselves, to support moral, ethical and right living.
*****. I am not that weak. The only thing I need to "support moral,
ethical and right living" is simple human empathy and compassion. That
anyone would need anything else is a mystery to me. Perhaps I'm just a
better person than they are.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
re: your theory...
Your posts prove otherwise Floyd .
v
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12 Jan 2007 01:59:26 PM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1168630934.993144.119590@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
V wrote:
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool. I've always said that atheists need a church of sorts for
themselves, to support moral, ethical and right living.
*****. I am not that weak. The only thing I need to "support moral,
ethical and right living" is simple human empathy and compassion. That
anyone would need anything else is a mystery to me. Perhaps I'm just a
better person than they are.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
re: your theory...
Your posts prove otherwise Floyd .
Your opinion.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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13 Jan 2007 12:44:38 PM |
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V wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
V wrote:
Dr. Newto Joseph wrote:
www.atheistfellowship.com
Dr. Newton Joseph
The site won't show up.
If it is a true fellowship for the atheists to 'practice what they
preach' as I have listed below, then it sounds like a sorely needed
tool. I've always said that atheists need a church of sorts for
themselves, to support moral, ethical and right living.
*****. I am not that weak. The only thing I need to "support moral,
ethical and right living" is simple human empathy and compassion. That
anyone would need anything else is a mystery to me. Perhaps I'm just a
better person than they are.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
re: your theory...
Your posts prove otherwise Floyd .
Why? Because they're practical applications to life instead of the
vapid ***** you scrawl? Go ***** yourself with a sledgehammer, idiot.
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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