Religions > Atheism > Xtian Group Threatens Lawsuit Over Crosses at Inauguration.
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11 Jan 2005 08:09:04 AM |
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Xtian Group Threatens Lawsuit Over Crosses at Inauguration. |
Awww....
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Group Threatens Lawsuit Over Crosses
Mon Jan 10, 6:00 PM ET
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - A conservative group is threatening to sue the Secret
Service for religious discrimination over security guidelines that would
ban Christian crosses from President Bush (news - web sites)'s inaugural
parade route.
The Secret Service (news - web sites) said Monday the guidelines were
meant to prohibit large structures that could be used as weapons.
Crosses were the only religious symbols on the list of banned items.
In a Dec. 17 directive to the National Park Service, the Secret Service
mandated that signs and placards along the inaugural parade route down
Pennsylvania Avenue be made out of cardboard, poster board or cloth.
They may be no more than three feet wide or 20 feet long.
The directive also prohibited folding chairs, bicycles and other
structures, and displays "such as puppets, papier mache objects,
coffins, crates, crosses, theaters, cages and statues."
"The way it's written, it's an unequivocal ban on crosses," said the
Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney of the Christian Defense Coalition. The group is
seeking to have the prohibition overturned in federal court if the
Secret Service fails to retract it.
"They are not banning large displays of the Star of David or Islamic
symbols," Mahoney said. "The only resolution is that they would have to
pull 'crosses' out. And they could easily protect religious freedom by
saying, 'We ban all structures made of wood.'"
The Secret Service was working on a clarification Monday to resolve the
flap. Spokesman Tom Mazur said the ban on crosses "is strictly in
regards to structures certainly not the symbol."
"There is no prohibition on crosses, symbols or messages based on
content only structures made of materials or of a size that could be
used in a potentially threatening or harmful manner," Mazur said.
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television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Group Threatens Lawsuit Over Crosses at Inauguration. |
11 Jan 2005 11:22:10 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:09:04 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Awww....
Another case of "if you're not rabidly foaming at the mouth for us
you're against us".
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"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Group Threatens Lawsuit Over Crosses at Inauguration. |
12 Jan 2005 06:53:14 AM |
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In article <1sn8u09l44ra09ccfppa5p28or0mt9qo35@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:09:04 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Awww....
Another case of "if you're not rabidly foaming at the mouth for us
you're against us".
"You''re not foaming enough! You must be some kind of a closet atheist
and probably a terrist!"
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Group Threatens Lawsuit Over Crosses at Inauguration. |
12 Jan 2005 09:02:52 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:53:14 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
"You''re not foaming enough! You must be some kind of a closet atheist
and probably a terrist!"
Terrorist: someone who doesn't believe that the fundamentalist
Christian god personally, and physically, came down to Earth and
changed the tallies on the Diebold machines, with his own created
hands, to assure a Bush win.
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"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is
a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the
crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due
to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of
nature and of our own being."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, from article by
Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Group Threatens Lawsuit Over Crosses at Inauguration. |
14 Jan 2005 06:16:13 AM |
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In article <914bu01atkgntcstmc5910dnkggbld51an@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:53:14 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
"You''re not foaming enough! You must be some kind of a closet atheist
and probably a terrist!"
Terrorist: someone who doesn't believe that the fundamentalist
Christian god personally, and physically, came down to Earth and
changed the tallies on the Diebold machines, with his own created
hands, to assure a Bush win.
"If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists." And as for those
who voted against the president, Alberto Gonzales has your name, knows
where you live, and a lot of other things about you that you probably
didn't even know yourself.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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