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"Gactimus" |
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29 Sep 2004 09:11:20 AM |
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Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John Kerry's
Senate attendence record.
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
29 Sep 2004 11:49:17 AM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
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When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John Kerry's
Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
29 Sep 2004 03:29:48 PM |
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"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
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When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John Kerry's
Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0204/022704nj1.htm
Kerry rated most liberal member of Senate
By Richard E. Cohen, National Journal
On the night of February 17, after finishing a surprisingly close second to
Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., in the Wisconsin primary, Sen. John Edwards,
D-N.C., made the rounds of television interviews and repeated what has
become a familiar theme. Asked on CNN about his campaign strategy, Edwards
replied that he planned to emphasize the contrasts between him and the
front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination.
"I think it's important for people to know the differences between us,"
Edwards said. "I like and respect John Kerry very much. And I think he feels
the same way about me. But we have differences." Edwards added a few moments
later: "There are clear differences between us. Now those differences will
become more apparent to Democratic voters."
Judging by National Journal's congressional vote ratings, however, Kerry and
Edwards aren't all that different, at least not when it comes to how they
voted on key issues before the Senate last year. The results of the vote
ratings show that Kerry was the most liberal senator in 2003, with a
composite liberal score of 96.5. But Edwards wasn't far behind: He had a
2003 composite liberal score of 94.5, making him the fourth-most-liberal
senator.
National Journal's vote ratings rank members of Congress on how they vote
relative to each other on a conservative-to-liberal scale in each chamber.
The scores, which have been compiled each year since 1981, are based on
lawmakers' votes in three areas: economic policy, social policy, and foreign
policy. The scores are determined by a computer-assisted calculation that
ranks members from one end of the ideological spectrum to the other, based
on key votes -- 62 in the Senate in 2003 -- selected by National Journal
reporters and editors.
The fact that Kerry and Edwards had such similar scores in 2003 is striking,
because during the course of their Senate careers, their ratings have often
placed them in different wings of their party.
Kerry has compiled a generally more liberal voting record. After winning
election to the Senate in 1984, he ranked among the most-liberal senators
during three years of his first term, according to National Journal's vote
ratings. In those years -- 1986, 1988, and 1990 -- Kerry did not vote with
Senate conservatives a single time out of the total of 138 votes used to
prepare those ratings.
Edwards, on the other hand, had a moderate voting record during the first
four years following his election to the Senate in 1998. The results
positioned Edwards comfortably apart from Senate liberals, but not so far to
the right that he locked arms with centrist Republicans. His consistent
moderation placed Edwards among the center-right of Senate Democrats. But
once Edwards decided to run for president and abandoned his bid for a second
Senate term, his record moved dramatically to the left in 2003.
Last year, Kerry, Edwards, and other congressional Democrats who were
seeking the presidency, including Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Rep.
***** Gephardt of Missouri, missed many votes. To qualify for a score in
National Journal's vote ratings, members must participate in at least half
of the votes in an issue category. Of the 62 Senate votes used to compute
the 2003 ratings, Kerry was absent for 37 votes and Edwards missed 22.
As a result, in the 2003 vote ratings, Kerry received a rating only in the
economic policy category, earning a perfect liberal score. Edwards received
ratings in the categories of economic and social issues, also putting up
perfect liberal scores.
A separate analysis showed that of the votes that Kerry cast in the two
categories in which he did not receive scores in 2003 -- social policy and
foreign policy -- he consistently took the liberal view within the Senate.
Edwards did not receive a score in the foreign-policy category; he sided
with the liberals on five votes in that area, and with the conservatives on
one vote. On foreign policy, Kerry and Edwards -- both of whom supported the
2002 resolution authorizing the use of military force against Iraq -- last
year joined most Senate Democrats in voting that half of the U.S.
reconstruction aid to Iraq be provided as loans, a provision that ultimately
was dropped.
To be sure, Kerry's ranking as the No. 1 Senate liberal in 2003 -- and his
earning of similar honors three times during his first term, from 1985 to
1990 -- will probably have opposition researchers licking their chops. As
shown in the accompanying chart, Kerry had a perfect liberal rating on
social issues during 10 of the 18 years in which he received a score,
meaning that he did not side with conservatives on a single vote in those
years. That included his 1996 vote, with 13 other Senate Democrats, against
the Defense of Marriage Act, which prohibited federal recognition of states'
same-sex marriage laws. Along the campaign trail, Republicans likely will
remind voters of Kerry's stance on that issue.
But interestingly, during Kerry's second term, from 1991 to 1996, he dropped
back into the pack of Democratic senators and voted more moderately. In
those years, he earned composite liberal scores in National Journal's vote
ratings ranging from 78.2 to 85.8.
Kerry was especially moderate in his second term when it came to
foreign-policy issues. He opposed the liberal position in key Senate
showdowns on missile-defense and intelligence spending in 1993, and on
procurement of additional F-18 Navy fighters in 1996. Such votes could
provide Kerry with some useful talking points for his presidential campaign.
Kerry also voted with President Clinton and congressional Republicans, but
against many liberals, in favor of welfare reform in 1996, and he
occasionally split from organized labor on workplace issues.
Meanwhile, Edwards, the son of a textile worker, has frequently pointed to
trade issues as one of the key "differences" between him and his opponent.
He has criticized Kerry's support for the North American Free Trade
Agreement in 1993 and for other international trade deals during the Clinton
presidency. (While Edwards did not serve in the Senate during much of that
time, news reports confirm that he opposed NAFTA during his 1998 campaign,
although it was not a major campaign issue.)
In fact, both senators have spotty records on trade issues. This helps to
explain why organized labor backed other Democratic candidates in the early
presidential caucuses and primaries.
Edwards voted with Kerry in 2000 to establish trade relations with China,
and in 2002 to extend presidential trade-negotiating authority. Also in
2000, Edwards split from Kerry by opposing legislation to drop U.S. trade
barriers with Africa and the Caribbean. (That vote was excluded from
National Journal's Senate vote ratings because it did not correlate
statistically.) In July 2003, Edwards opposed free-trade agreements with
Chile and Singapore, each of which passed the Senate handily, despite mostly
Democratic opposition. Kerry missed both votes.
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| User: "raven1" |
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29 Sep 2004 03:36:50 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:29:48 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:cjep2d$921$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:cjefq8$lrb$3@news1.usf.edu...
When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John Kerry's
Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0204/022704nj1.htm
Kerry rated most liberal member of Senate
By Richard E. Cohen, National Journal
And the relevance to the thread would be...?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
29 Sep 2004 03:48:41 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:29:48 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
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When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John Kerry's
Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0204/022704nj1.htm
Kerry rated most liberal member of Senate
By Richard E. Cohen, National Journal
And the relevance to the thread would be...?
Read the article, and then read about how many times Kerry was absent from
senate.
The man's record is HORRIBLE
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| User: "raven1" |
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29 Sep 2004 05:27:46 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:48:41 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:29:48 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:cjep2d$921$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:cjefq8$lrb$3@news1.usf.edu...
When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John Kerry's
Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0204/022704nj1.htm
Kerry rated most liberal member of Senate
By Richard E. Cohen, National Journal
And the relevance to the thread would be...?
Read the article, and then read about how many times Kerry was absent from
senate.
The man's record is HORRIBLE
The article in question refers to Kerry's absences in *one* year out
of the nineteen he's been in the Senate. Nice try.
Overall, Kerry's actual record as a Senator is impressive:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/senate.html
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
29 Sep 2004 06:12:57 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:48:41 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:29:48 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:cjefq8$lrb$3@news1.usf.edu...
When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John
Kerry's
Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0204/022704nj1.htm
Kerry rated most liberal member of Senate
By Richard E. Cohen, National Journal
And the relevance to the thread would be...?
Read the article, and then read about how many times Kerry was absent from
senate.
The man's record is HORRIBLE
The article in question refers to Kerry's absences in *one* year out
of the nineteen he's been in the Senate. Nice try.
Overall, Kerry's actual record as a Senator is impressive:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/senate.html
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=241
Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings
Bush says Kerry missed 76% of public hearings. He could have missed even
more.
A Bush-Cheney '04 ad released Aug. 13 accuses Kerry of being absent for 76%
of the Senate Intelligence Committee's public hearings during the time he
served there. The Kerry campaign calls the ad "misleading," so we checked,
and Bush is right.
Official records show Kerry not present for at least 76% of public hearings
held during his eight years on the panel, and possibly 78% (the record of
one hearing is ambiguous).
Kerry points out that most meetings of the Intelligence Committee are closed
and attendance records of those meetings aren't public, hinting that his
attendance might have been better at the non-public proceedings. But Kerry
could ask that his attendance records be made public, and hasn't.
Aides also claimed repeatedly that Kerry had been vice chairman of the
intelligence committee, but that was Bob Kerrey of Nebraska, not John Kerry.
Analysis
Kerry often touts his eight years on the Senate Intelligence Committee as a
prime qualification for office. The Bush ad takes that on, describing Kerry
as a no-show for most of the committee's public meetings. If anything, the
ad understates Kerry's lack of attendance
Public Hearings
The Bush ad shows Kerry promising to "immediately reform the intelligence
system," then counters with an announcer saying "as a member of the Senate
Intelligence Committee Kerry was absent for 76 percent of the committee's
public hearings." As support for that statement, the Bush campaign states
that Kerry is listed as present at only 11 of the 49 public meetings of the
committee while he was a member, from 1993 through January, 2001, when Kerry
left the committee.
FactCheck.org examined the official, published records of those hearings.
And indeed, Kerry is listed as attending only 11 of those hearings.
Kerry's apparent absence from 38 of the hearings actually figures out to an
absentee rate of 77.6%.
However, the Bush ad's lower figure plays it safe -- giving Kerry credit for
attending one hearing for which the record is a bit ambiguous. The record of
that hearing, on June 22, 1999, lacks the usual list of the senators and
staff members who attended. We checked the full transcript for any sign that
Kerry had been there, and found no record of Kerry speaking, or anyone else
noting his presence. If Kerry is counted as absent from that hearing as well
as the others, he missed nearly 78%. But if he attended and didn't speak,
then he would have missed only 37 of the 49, for a no-show rate of 75.5%,
which the ad properly rounds up to 76%.
In a rebuttal to the ad, the Kerry camp accused Bush of "fuzzy math and bad
stats," saying "They rely only on whether Sen... Kerry made statements in
one of a small number of open hearings." That's not true. Records list
senators and staff members as being present whether or not they spoke,
and -- to repeat -- the 76 percent figure actually gives Kerry credit for
attending one hearing for which there's no evidence of his participation.
What About the Closed Meetings?
The Kerry rebuttal also noted that most of the Intelligence Committee
meetings are closed and attendance figures for closed meetings aren't
public, which is true. But Kerry offered nothing to show that his attendance
at closed meetings was better or worse than his attendance at open hearings.
He also has passed up a chance to have the full record of his attendance
made public.
Over the weekend, the Republican chairman of the committee, Pat Roberts of
Kansas, refused to say how often Kerry had attended closed meetings. But
Roberts said Kerry could, if he wished, ask that his attendance at closed
meetings be made public. Roberts spoke on NBC's "Meet the Press" Aug 15:
Q: Did he (Kerry) attend private sessions or was he not present?
Sen... Roberts: Well, I'm not going to get into whether he was there or
not. Senator (Jay) Rockefeller (the Democratic Vice chairman of the
committee) and I and the committee would have to agree to release the
attendance records for...
Q: Well, it should be a matter of record, though, if you can...
Roberts: Well, it's in a closed hearing. . . . The easiest way out of this
is for John Kerry and John Edwards to request of Senator Rockefeller and
myself to release the attendance hearings; not only the public hearings,
which they have rebutted, but the closed hearings. . . .
Q: Well, has he been a hard-working member?
Roberts: They should request it. They should...
Q: Because that's one of the credentials he cites in his campaign.
Roberts: Well, hard-working member is in the eyes of the beholder. I'm
just saying that John Kerry and John Edwards could ask Jay and myself to
release the attendance records. It is important because you have to be in
attendance to learn the job.
A Kerry campaign official responded to Roberts statement by saying "there's
nothing to clear up" through releasing records of closed hearings. Stephanie
Cutter, communications director of the Kerry campaign, said Aug 15 on CNN's
Inside Politics Sunday:
Cutter: Well, there's nothing to clear up. . . . John Kerry has had a
consistent record of improving intelligence over the past 20 years. He
joined with many Republicans, including one of the chairs of the Republican
campaign, Arlen Specter, to improve intelligence in a post-Cold War era. So
this is -- this is just another distorted attack by George Bush, because he
can't defend his own record.
As of 6:30pm Aug. 17 the Kerry campaign had made no request of the Senate
Intelligence Committee to release records of the closed meetings, a
committee spokesman told FactCheck.org.
"Vice Chairman?" Oops!
In their eagerness to dismiss the Bush ad's charges, Kerry campaign aides
claimed that the senator had been vice chairman of the intelligence
committee, which isn't true. In fact, former Senator Bob Kerrey of Nebraska
was vice chairman of the panel for several years while Kerry was a more
junior member of the panel. John Kerry left the committee in January 2001.
He never served as vice chairman, a committee spokesman confirmed to us.
The erroneous claim appeared in several places on the Kerry website, one
dating back to January, 2004, and another in a posting Aug. 13 to rebut the
Bush ad. It said, "Kerry is an Experienced Leader in the Intelligence
Field - John Kerry served on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for
eight years and is the former Vice Chairman of the Committee."Kerry senior
adviser Tad Devine told Fox News, which first reported the discrepancy, that
the campaign would be "happy to correct the record" if needed:
Devine: I'll have to check with the issues people. It was my understanding
he was. But if that's, you know -- but if that's not a factual case, I'm
sure we will be happy to correct the record.
Two days later the erroneous claim was still appearing on the Kerry website,
however. On Aug. 17 The Associated Press quoted campaign spokesman Michael
Meehan conceding the error, adding: "John Kerry, Bob Kerrey -- similar
names."
Listen Carefully
The Bush ad also says Kerry was absent for every single Intelligence
Committee meeting during the year "after the first terrorist attack on the
World Trade Center." That's true. The official records list four public
hearings in 1994 -- the year after terrorists set off a truck bomb in the
Trade Center's underground garage -- and Kerry is listed as attending none
of them. However, those who don't listen carefully to the exact wording of
the ad might get the impression that Kerry skipped Intelligence Committee
hearings even after the second terrorist attacks -- on September 11, 2001.
That would create a false impression. In fact, Kerry left the committee
months before the 9/11 attacks.
The ad also says Kerry "proposed slashing America's intelligence budget by 6
billion dollars," but fails to mention that figure was spread over six
years. It would have represented a 3.7% cut in overall intelligence
spending, estimated then at $27 billion per year. Kerry's proposal was part
of a large deficit-reduction package that was defeated soundly. For further
details on that, see our earlier article on Bush's charge last March that
Kerry tried to "gut" intelligence spending.
Sources
Bush Cheney '04, "Bush-Cheney Ad Facts: 'Intel'" News Release, 13 Aug 2004.
John Kerry for President, "Bush-Cheney Ad Fact Check - 'Intel'" News
Release, 13 Aug 2004.
Lolita C. Baldor, "Kerry-Kerrey confusion trips up campaign," The Associated
Press, 17 Aug 2004.
NBC News, "Meet the Press," 15 Aug 2004
CNN, "Inside Politics Sunday," 15 Aug 2004
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
29 Sep 2004 06:27:01 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:12:57 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Kerry points out that most meetings of the Intelligence Committee are closed
and attendance records of those meetings aren't public, hinting that his
attendance might have been better at the non-public proceedings. But Kerry
could ask that his attendance records be made public, and hasn't.
Why would he ask for classified information to be made public?
And when is Bush going to release his attendance records from his time
in the National Guard?
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| User: "Mel" |
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02 Oct 2004 10:01:19 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:27:46 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote
in message <aodml05ic0fcgm68mn6pis10tbogkkvb08@4ax.com>:
The article in question refers to Kerry's absences in *one* year out
of the nineteen he's been in the Senate. Nice try.
Overall, Kerry's actual record as a Senator is impressive:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/senate.html
doesn't matter if Kerry is Jesus Christ, he's not getting in.
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03 Oct 2004 06:32:57 AM |
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"Mel" <mel@atj.fag.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:27:46 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
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in message <aodml05ic0fcgm68mn6pis10tbogkkvb08@4ax.com>:
The article in question refers to Kerry's absences in *one* year out
of the nineteen he's been in the Senate. Nice try.
Overall, Kerry's actual record as a Senator is impressive:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/senate.html
doesn't matter if Kerry is Jesus Christ, he's not getting in.
and you're not getting into this country fag boy.
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30 Sep 2004 06:26:49 AM |
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raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:48:41 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:29:48 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
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When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John
Kerry's Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0204/022704nj1.htm
Kerry rated most liberal member of Senate
By Richard E. Cohen, National Journal
And the relevance to the thread would be...?
Read the article, and then read about how many times Kerry was absent
from senate.
The man's record is HORRIBLE
The article in question refers to Kerry's absences in *one* year out
of the nineteen he's been in the Senate. Nice try.
Overall, Kerry's actual record as a Senator is impressive:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/senate.html
If it's so great then why doesn't he ever talk about it?
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30 Sep 2004 11:21:16 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
Overall, Kerry's actual record as a Senator is impressive:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/senate.html
If it's so great then why doesn't he ever talk about it?
Did you not notice whose web site that is, gack?
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30 Sep 2004 10:45:10 AM |
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:26:49 -0400, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:48:41 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:29:48 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
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"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
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When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John
Kerry's Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0204/022704nj1.htm
Kerry rated most liberal member of Senate
By Richard E. Cohen, National Journal
And the relevance to the thread would be...?
Read the article, and then read about how many times Kerry was absent
from senate.
The man's record is HORRIBLE
The article in question refers to Kerry's absences in *one* year out
of the nineteen he's been in the Senate. Nice try.
Overall, Kerry's actual record as a Senator is impressive:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/senate.html
If it's so great then why doesn't he ever talk about it?
*Sigh*. Because his campaign appears to be advised by Al Gore, Bob
Dole, and Michael Dukakis, from all indications...
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| User: "Martin OBrien" |
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| Title: Re: Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
29 Sep 2004 03:46:49 PM |
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Osprey noneedtoknow@mail.com, wrote in message
KmdnZE4J-hrg8bcRVn-rQ@comcast.com:
Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour?
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I'm out of sick days, so I'm calling in dead.
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| User: "Martin OBrien" |
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| Title: Re: Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
29 Sep 2004 03:28:20 PM |
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Osprey noneedtoknow@mail.com, wrote in message
NOdnWrkYf8Qh8bcRVn-rg@comcast.com:
Why is it that whenever I research symptoms of tumors and serious
illnesses, I get the symptoms?
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I'm out of sick days, so I'm calling in dead.
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| User: "Mel" |
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| Title: Re: Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
30 Sep 2004 11:44:50 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:49:17 -0500, "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu>
wrote in message <cjep2d$921$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>:
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John Kerry's
Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
not at all. they have Bush, who is a shoe in.
this little Usenet debate is meaningless.
it doesn't matter if you score points or not.
Bush is getting re-elected.
that's the bottom line here.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
Cape Town news
http://adderleystreet.co.za/capetown/
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| User: "GP of ATJ" |
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| Title: Re: Yang ignores Kerry's AWOL Senate record |
02 Oct 2004 01:28:45 PM |
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"Mel" <mel@atj.fag.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:49:17 -0500, "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu>
wrote in message <cjep2d$921$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>:
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
When you are referring to 'AWOL', you must be referring to John Kerry's
Senate attendence record.
Poor repubs, lies are all they have.
Bush is getting re-elected.
is that what your witch doctor told you fag boy?
that's the bottom line here.
your ***** is so fat it can't get any higher fag boy.
A Englishman, a Scotsman, and an Irishman walk into a pub. They proceed to
each buy a pint of Guinness. Just as they were about to enjoy their creamy
beverage three flies landed in each of their pints,and were stuck in the
thick head.
The Englishman pushed his beer away from him in disgust. The Scotsman fished
the offending fly out of his beer and continued drinking it as if nothing
had happened. The Irishman too, picked the fly out of his drink, held it out
over the beer and then started yelling, "SPIT IT OUT, SPIT IT OUT YOU
*****!!!"
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfag.com
http://www.atjfag.com/
Fag Town news
http://adderleystreet.co.za/capetown/
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