Religions > Atheism > Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone
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Religions > Atheism |
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"Ben Kaufman" |
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14 Aug 2007 11:20:59 AM |
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Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070814/ap_on_el_st_lo/prohibition_vote_3
Ben
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
14 Aug 2007 10:02:09 PM |
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"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
14 Aug 2007 10:45:12 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
15 Aug 2007 07:07:20 AM |
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On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
Ben
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
15 Aug 2007 02:14:31 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
15 Aug 2007 08:16:29 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Wow!
What humility, Mr. Perfect.
I am humbled to be in the company of one of your erudition and
intellect.
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
15 Aug 2007 10:38:38 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:46:29 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Wow!
What humility, Mr. Perfect.
I am humbled to be in the company of one of your erudition and
intellect.
I call 'em like I see 'em. If I have offended you I trust you'll
disregard any future post(s) I may make.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
16 Aug 2007 02:43:57 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:38:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:46:29 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Wow!
What humility, Mr. Perfect.
I am humbled to be in the company of one of your erudition and
intellect.
I call 'em like I see 'em. If I have offended you I trust you'll
disregard any future post(s) I may make.
The first sensible observation that you have made so far.
By bye, Lord Hubris the Perfect.
*plonk*
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
16 Aug 2007 12:28:51 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:13:57 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:38:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:46:29 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Wow!
What humility, Mr. Perfect.
I am humbled to be in the company of one of your erudition and
intellect.
I call 'em like I see 'em. If I have offended you I trust you'll
disregard any future post(s) I may make.
The first sensible observation that you have made so far.
By bye, Lord Hubris the Perfect.
I told you early on that you didn't have to have my permission. Some
people are born followers.
*plonk*
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
16 Aug 2007 10:11:57 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
..
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
Ben
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
16 Aug 2007 03:48:38 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
16 Aug 2007 09:42:18 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
You can try dodging but it does nothing to refute my citations demonstrating
your blunder.
Ben
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
17 Aug 2007 11:31:24 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
You can try dodging but it does nothing to refute my citations demonstrating
your blunder.
I saw nothing in what you've posted that even comes close to doing
what you claim. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
I you're still hanging on to the claim that people can survive longer
without water than without food = that's foolish.
Ben
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
17 Aug 2007 04:13:04 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:31:24 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
You can try dodging but it does nothing to refute my citations demonstrating
your blunder.
I saw nothing in what you've posted that even comes close to doing
what you claim. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
I you're still hanging on to the claim that people can survive longer
without water than without food = that's foolish.
Ben
You are really off track here, this is about your insistence that food
deprivation can't be used as one of the techniques in mind control. Read the
above, it's still all there.
I say, "Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control."
And you say, "No it isn't. Its way too slow."
And then I google up a set of citations describing the use of food deprivation
in mind control.
Ben
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
17 Aug 2007 11:26:57 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:13:04 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:31:24 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
You can try dodging but it does nothing to refute my citations demonstrating
your blunder.
I saw nothing in what you've posted that even comes close to doing
what you claim. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
I you're still hanging on to the claim that people can survive longer
without water than without food = that's foolish.
Ben
You are really off track here, this is about your insistence that food
deprivation can't be used as one of the techniques in mind control. Read the
above, it's still all there.
I say, "Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control."
And you say, "No it isn't. Its way too slow."
And then I google up a set of citations describing the use of food deprivation
in mind control.
All of which are BS because one can live for an extended period of
time without food. Consequently, one wishing to not succumb to such a
foolish and non-threatening method could easily resist. Deprived of
water on the other hand, in a short period of time.one gives in or
dies.
Thanks for playing.
Ben
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
18 Aug 2007 09:38:57 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:26:57 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:13:04 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:31:24 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
You can try dodging but it does nothing to refute my citations demonstrating
your blunder.
I saw nothing in what you've posted that even comes close to doing
what you claim. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
I you're still hanging on to the claim that people can survive longer
without water than without food = that's foolish.
Ben
You are really off track here, this is about your insistence that food
deprivation can't be used as one of the techniques in mind control. Read the
above, it's still all there.
I say, "Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control."
And you say, "No it isn't. Its way too slow."
And then I google up a set of citations describing the use of food deprivation
in mind control.
All of which are BS because one can live for an extended period of
time without food. Consequently, one wishing to not succumb to such a
foolish and non-threatening method could easily resist. Deprived of
water on the other hand, in a short period of time.one gives in or
dies.
Thanks for playing.
Ben
Right, it's all BS simply because you say so. Never mind the page-plus of
citations I produced to support my position. You are confusing mind control
with torture to effect a result. If you want to torture someone there's much
better stuff you can do with water than simply depriving them of it.
Ben
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
18 Aug 2007 11:48:11 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:38:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:26:57 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:13:04 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:31:24 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
You can try dodging but it does nothing to refute my citations demonstrating
your blunder.
I saw nothing in what you've posted that even comes close to doing
what you claim. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
I you're still hanging on to the claim that people can survive longer
without water than without food = that's foolish.
Ben
You are really off track here, this is about your insistence that food
deprivation can't be used as one of the techniques in mind control. Read the
above, it's still all there.
I say, "Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control."
And you say, "No it isn't. Its way too slow."
And then I google up a set of citations describing the use of food deprivation
in mind control.
All of which are BS because one can live for an extended period of
time without food. Consequently, one wishing to not succumb to such a
foolish and non-threatening method could easily resist. Deprived of
water on the other hand, in a short period of time.one gives in or
dies.
Thanks for playing.
Ben
Right, it's all BS simply because you say so. Never mind the page-plus of
citations I produced to support my position. You are confusing mind control
with torture to effect a result. If you want to torture someone there's much
better stuff you can do with water than simply depriving them of it.
Hang it up Ben, because you can only view things from the civilian
perspective and it so limiting.
Ben
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
20 Aug 2007 08:07:04 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:48:11 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:38:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:26:57 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:13:04 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:31:24 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
You can try dodging but it does nothing to refute my citations demonstrating
your blunder.
I saw nothing in what you've posted that even comes close to doing
what you claim. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
I you're still hanging on to the claim that people can survive longer
without water than without food = that's foolish.
Ben
You are really off track here, this is about your insistence that food
deprivation can't be used as one of the techniques in mind control. Read the
above, it's still all there.
I say, "Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control."
And you say, "No it isn't. Its way too slow."
And then I google up a set of citations describing the use of food deprivation
in mind control.
All of which are BS because one can live for an extended period of
time without food. Consequently, one wishing to not succumb to such a
foolish and non-threatening method could easily resist. Deprived of
water on the other hand, in a short period of time.one gives in or
dies.
Thanks for playing.
Ben
Right, it's all BS simply because you say so. Never mind the page-plus of
citations I produced to support my position. You are confusing mind control
with torture to effect a result. If you want to torture someone there's much
better stuff you can do with water than simply depriving them of it.
Hang it up Ben, because you can only view things from the civilian
perspective and it so limiting.
Ben
No, I view things from the factual perspective, as I demonstrated with
citations. Kindly produce some citations that refute the use of food
deprivation in mind control.
Ben
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
20 Aug 2007 11:24:34 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:07:04 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:48:11 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:38:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:26:57 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:13:04 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:31:24 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
You can try dodging but it does nothing to refute my citations demonstrating
your blunder.
I saw nothing in what you've posted that even comes close to doing
what you claim. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
I you're still hanging on to the claim that people can survive longer
without water than without food = that's foolish.
Ben
You are really off track here, this is about your insistence that food
deprivation can't be used as one of the techniques in mind control. Read the
above, it's still all there.
I say, "Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control."
And you say, "No it isn't. Its way too slow."
And then I google up a set of citations describing the use of food deprivation
in mind control.
All of which are BS because one can live for an extended period of
time without food. Consequently, one wishing to not succumb to such a
foolish and non-threatening method could easily resist. Deprived of
water on the other hand, in a short period of time.one gives in or
dies.
Thanks for playing.
Ben
Right, it's all BS simply because you say so. Never mind the page-plus of
citations I produced to support my position. You are confusing mind control
with torture to effect a result. If you want to torture someone there's much
better stuff you can do with water than simply depriving them of it.
Hang it up Ben, because you can only view things from the civilian
perspective and it so limiting.
Ben
No, I view things from the factual perspective, as I demonstrated with
citations. Kindly produce some citations that refute the use of food
deprivation in mind control.
But Ben, I didn't say it wasn't used I said it was useless. Especially
if one is serious about gaining total control. The average citizen can
go a long time without food, and a disciplined one even longer, but
even ***** Gregory had to have a little water now and then, remember?
Having been in the Armed Forces I know something about such things,
Ben. And again I say you have only the perspective of a watcher of a
four week, picture boarded TV "Survivor" Series
Ben
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
21 Aug 2007 07:43:10 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:24:34 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:07:04 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:48:11 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:38:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:26:57 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:13:04 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:31:24 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:38 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:11:57 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:14:31 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:07:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control.
No it isn't. Its way too slow. I don't recall a recent topic in which
so many ill informed people demonstrated their ignorance than this on.
Ben
He who casts the first accusation of ignorance should have done a little
research.
.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22food+deprivation%22+%22mind+control%22
You refer to simplistic games. Total and absolute control is achieved
by denying water. People can live for weeks without food, a few days
without water. Try to get some info from an X SERE school instructor.
If you need references let me know.
Ben
You can try dodging but it does nothing to refute my citations demonstrating
your blunder.
I saw nothing in what you've posted that even comes close to doing
what you claim. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
I you're still hanging on to the claim that people can survive longer
without water than without food = that's foolish.
Ben
You are really off track here, this is about your insistence that food
deprivation can't be used as one of the techniques in mind control. Read the
above, it's still all there.
I say, "Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control."
And you say, "No it isn't. Its way too slow."
And then I google up a set of citations describing the use of food deprivation
in mind control.
All of which are BS because one can live for an extended period of
time without food. Consequently, one wishing to not succumb to such a
foolish and non-threatening method could easily resist. Deprived of
water on the other hand, in a short period of time.one gives in or
dies.
Thanks for playing.
Ben
Right, it's all BS simply because you say so. Never mind the page-plus of
citations I produced to support my position. You are confusing mind control
with torture to effect a result. If you want to torture someone there's much
better stuff you can do with water than simply depriving them of it.
Hang it up Ben, because you can only view things from the civilian
perspective and it so limiting.
Ben
No, I view things from the factual perspective, as I demonstrated with
citations. Kindly produce some citations that refute the use of food
deprivation in mind control.
But Ben, I didn't say it wasn't used I said it was useless. Especially
if one is serious about gaining total control. The average citizen can
go a long time without food, and a disciplined one even longer, but
even ***** Gregory had to have a little water now and then, remember?
Having been in the Armed Forces I know something about such things,
Ben. And again I say you have only the perspective of a watcher of a
four week, picture boarded TV "Survivor" Series
Ben
Here we go again.
I say, "Food deprivation is one of the techniques employed in mind control."
And you say, "No it isn't. Its way too slow."
Quite clearly, you say that it isn't used. But I will allow you some wriggle
room. Why don't you produce some citations that state food deprivation in mind
control is "useless."
Ben
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
22 Aug 2007 03:21:41 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:43:10 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
Quite clearly, you say that it isn't used. But I will allow you some wriggle
room. Why don't you produce some citations that state food deprivation in mind
control is "useless."
No Problem:
MARICOPA COUNTY, Arizona (CNN) -- The tent city looks like a military
camp in the desert, with thick canvas sleeping quarters spreading out
in a remote area of Arizona.
The inhabitants, however, are not soldiers, but residents of an
unusual, some say brutal, prison run by legendary lawman Joe Arpaio,
called the toughest sheriff in the West.
For the Maricopa County sheriff, who opened the nation's largest tent
prison in 1993, saving taxpayer pennies matters more than comforting
convicted felons.
"We took away coffee, that saved $150,000 a year. Why do you need
coffee in jail?" says Arpaio, patrolling the dusty, barren grounds.
"Switched to bologna sandwiches, that saved half a million dollars a
year."
^^^^^^Arpaio makes inmates pay for their meals, which some say
are worse than those for the guard dogs. Canines eat $1.10 worth of
food a day, the inmate 90 cents, the sheriff says. "I'm very proud of
that too."^^^^^^
Critics rail against harsh conditions in the prison, where
temperatures can top 100 degrees.
"We still have rights, but they act like we're scum," one inmate
complains.
Adds Eleanor Eisenberg of the ACLU: "Sheriff Arpaio has conditions in
his jail that are inhumane, and he's proud of it."
Arpaio boasts of his chain gangs for men and women, which "contribute
thousands of dollars of free labor to taxpayers each month," according
to his Web site.underwear Sheriff Arpaio requires inmates to wear
striped uniforms and pink underwear
Pink underwear and bedtime stories
Inmates follow strict fashion and lifestyle guidelines. They are
forced to wear old-fashioned prison stripes and pink underwear.
Prohibited items include cigarettes, adult magazines, hot lunches and
television -- except for his bedtime story reading, a self-styled
literacy program broadcast nightly to the inmates.
****************************************************************************************
So, you see Ben, food deprivation only makes people hungry - But
"Dehydration" makes people dead. The Sheriff gives the
prisoners all the water they want...
We come to the end. I have provided the information you asked for but
I have also noted that we are the only people participating in this
thread and since it has become repetitive and a waste of time in my
view this will be my last post on this subject.
Enjoyed it...
Ben
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
22 Aug 2007 07:35:39 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:21:41 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:43:10 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
Quite clearly, you say that it isn't used. But I will allow you some wriggle
room. Why don't you produce some citations that state food deprivation in mind
control is "useless."
No Problem:
MARICOPA COUNTY, Arizona (CNN) -- The tent city looks like a military
camp in the desert, with thick canvas sleeping quarters spreading out
in a remote area of Arizona.
The inhabitants, however, are not soldiers, but residents of an
unusual, some say brutal, prison run by legendary lawman Joe Arpaio,
called the toughest sheriff in the West.
For the Maricopa County sheriff, who opened the nation's largest tent
prison in 1993, saving taxpayer pennies matters more than comforting
convicted felons.
"We took away coffee, that saved $150,000 a year. Why do you need
coffee in jail?" says Arpaio, patrolling the dusty, barren grounds.
"Switched to bologna sandwiches, that saved half a million dollars a
year."
^^^^^^Arpaio makes inmates pay for their meals, which some say
are worse than those for the guard dogs. Canines eat $1.10 worth of
food a day, the inmate 90 cents, the sheriff says. "I'm very proud of
that too."^^^^^^
Critics rail against harsh conditions in the prison, where
temperatures can top 100 degrees.
"We still have rights, but they act like we're scum," one inmate
complains.
Adds Eleanor Eisenberg of the ACLU: "Sheriff Arpaio has conditions in
his jail that are inhumane, and he's proud of it."
Arpaio boasts of his chain gangs for men and women, which "contribute
thousands of dollars of free labor to taxpayers each month," according
to his Web site.underwear Sheriff Arpaio requires inmates to wear
striped uniforms and pink underwear
Pink underwear and bedtime stories
Inmates follow strict fashion and lifestyle guidelines. They are
forced to wear old-fashioned prison stripes and pink underwear.
Prohibited items include cigarettes, adult magazines, hot lunches and
television -- except for his bedtime story reading, a self-styled
literacy program broadcast nightly to the inmates.
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So, you see Ben, food deprivation only makes people hungry - But
"Dehydration" makes people dead. The Sheriff gives the
prisoners all the water they want...
We come to the end. I have provided the information you asked for but
I have also noted that we are the only people participating in this
thread and since it has become repetitive and a waste of time in my
view this will be my last post on this subject.
Enjoyed it...
Ben
Al, the above article does not even remotely discuss water deprivation. In
fact, the words "water" and "dehydration" are no where to be found in the
article. But I'm glad you enjoyed playing.
Ben
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| User: "Al Key" |
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15 Aug 2007 02:09:24 PM |
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On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Have you ever read anything about the Muslim religion. If ever you do
you may be surprised at the restrictions and obligations relative to
alcohol and prayer it imposes on its followers. The broader your
knowledge is the less restricted your thinking is.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
15 Aug 2007 02:17:26 PM |
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On Aug 15, 8:09 pm, Al Key <alkee...@teranews.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Have you ever read anything about the Muslim religion. If ever you do
you may be surprised at the restrictions and obligations relative to
alcohol and prayer it imposes on its followers. The broader your
knowledge is the less restricted your thinking is.
Yeah, we know the muslim religion. I have similar respect for it's
rules than for christianty's rules (Ie, none). I just find it funny
here, as at least with muslims their delusions tend to be anti-
alcohol, whereas xians delusions involve a character who rather liked
drinking...
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
15 Aug 2007 10:26:51 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:17:26 -0700, Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Aug 15, 8:09 pm, Al Key <alkee...@teranews.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Have you ever read anything about the Muslim religion. If ever you do
you may be surprised at the restrictions and obligations relative to
alcohol and prayer it imposes on its followers. The broader your
knowledge is the less restricted your thinking is.
Yeah, we know the muslim religion. I have similar respect for it's
rules than for christianty's rules (Ie, none). I just find it funny
here, as at least with muslims their delusions tend to be anti-
alcohol, whereas xians delusions involve a character who rather liked
drinking...
So you think some religious people, because of their beliefs, have
less right to express their opinion or seek redress from their
government than atheist do.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
16 Aug 2007 02:28:36 AM |
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"Al Key" <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote in message
news:7rg7c3poe51o5e3lktfrg84jarsdfu2v6t@4ax.com...
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:17:26 -0700, Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Aug 15, 8:09 pm, Al Key <alkee...@teranews.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote in
message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a
citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow
sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking
members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Have you ever read anything about the Muslim religion. If ever you do
you may be surprised at the restrictions and obligations relative to
alcohol and prayer it imposes on its followers. The broader your
knowledge is the less restricted your thinking is.
Yeah, we know the muslim religion. I have similar respect for it's
rules than for christianty's rules (Ie, none). I just find it funny
here, as at least with muslims their delusions tend to be anti-
alcohol, whereas xians delusions involve a character who rather liked
drinking...
So you think some religious people, because of their beliefs, have
less right to express their opinion or seek redress from their
government than atheist do.
So you think some religious people, because of their beliefs, have the right
to impose their religious restrictions upon me?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Al Key" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
16 Aug 2007 12:20:52 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:28:36 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Al Key" <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote in message
news:7rg7c3poe51o5e3lktfrg84jarsdfu2v6t@4ax.com...
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:17:26 -0700, Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Aug 15, 8:09 pm, Al Key <alkee...@teranews.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote in
message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a
citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow
sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking
members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Have you ever read anything about the Muslim religion. If ever you do
you may be surprised at the restrictions and obligations relative to
alcohol and prayer it imposes on its followers. The broader your
knowledge is the less restricted your thinking is.
Yeah, we know the muslim religion. I have similar respect for it's
rules than for christianty's rules (Ie, none). I just find it funny
here, as at least with muslims their delusions tend to be anti-
alcohol, whereas xians delusions involve a character who rather liked
drinking...
So you think some religious people, because of their beliefs, have
less right to express their opinion or seek redress from their
government than atheist do.
So you think some religious people, because of their beliefs, have the right
to impose their religious restrictions upon me?
No, there is no mechanism in place for them to do that, Civics 6th
grade.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
16 Aug 2007 07:42:37 PM |
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"Al Key" <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote in message
news:0p19c39bj2r8ouv3r44huck89tcagfjqsi@4ax.com...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:28:36 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Al Key" <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote in message
news:7rg7c3poe51o5e3lktfrg84jarsdfu2v6t@4ax.com...
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:17:26 -0700, Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Aug 15, 8:09 pm, Al Key <alkee...@teranews.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote in
message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a
citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow
sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who
helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking
members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT
worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor
of
the ban?
Have you ever read anything about the Muslim religion. If ever you do
you may be surprised at the restrictions and obligations relative to
alcohol and prayer it imposes on its followers. The broader your
knowledge is the less restricted your thinking is.
Yeah, we know the muslim religion. I have similar respect for it's
rules than for christianty's rules (Ie, none). I just find it funny
here, as at least with muslims their delusions tend to be anti-
alcohol, whereas xians delusions involve a character who rather liked
drinking...
So you think some religious people, because of their beliefs, have
less right to express their opinion or seek redress from their
government than atheist do.
So you think some religious people, because of their beliefs, have the
right
to impose their religious restrictions upon me?
No, there is no mechanism in place for them to do that, Civics 6th
grade.
I'm sorry, I know the internet is international, but I assumed you were
living in the US. My mistake.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Yet again religious zealots try to impose their morality on everyone |
16 Aug 2007 09:33:06 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:20:52 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:28:36 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Al Key" <alkeeeee@teranews.com> wrote in message
news:7rg7c3poe51o5e3lktfrg84jarsdfu2v6t@4ax.com...
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:17:26 -0700, Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Aug 15, 8:09 pm, Al Key <alkee...@teranews.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2007 22:45:12 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:02:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com>
wrote:
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote in
message
news:8gl3c3dgs4hrp48j7d1chnacus8j5s7uoc@4ax.com...
"...A measure to end the sale of alcohol in Athens is up for a
citywide
vote, a
rare instance where voters could overturn a previous vote to allow
sales.
Business interests are against repeal, but church leaders who helped
organize
the petition drive that got the measure on the ballot are asking
members
to pray
and fast in support of a ban..."
I wonder if they ever heard of Prohibition, and how well THAT worked.
I wonder why they think that anyone cares that they dieted in favor of
the ban?
Have you ever read anything about the Muslim religion. If ever you do
you may be surprised at the restrictions and obligations relative to
alcohol and prayer it imposes on its followers. The broader your
knowledge is the less restricted your thinking is.
Yeah, we know the muslim religion. I have similar respect for it's
rules than for christianty's rules (Ie, none). I just find it funny
here, as at least with muslims their delusions tend to be anti-
alcohol, whereas xians delusions involve a character who rather liked
drinking...
So you think some religious people, because of their beliefs, have
less right to express their opinion or seek redress from their
government than atheist do.
So you think some religious people, because of their beliefs, have the right
to impose their religious restrictions upon me?
No, there is no mechanism in place for them to do that, Civics 6th
grade.
So you are saying there is no mechanism for what is going on, as cited in the
article?
Ben
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