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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "rob wade"
Date: 15 Nov 2005 09:31:28 PM
Object: You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss
You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss
Michael Bates
It was Sunday evening at a casual Orland Park restaurant. A couple, in
their late 20s or early 30s, held hands, deeply kissed and couldn't
take their hands off one another. The young lovers were both men.
Often in articles relating to changing social mores, the writer begins
by assuring readers he's no prude. That's not happening here.
I live a sheltered life by design. I know that I'm an old fogy, a
fuddy-duddy and a stuffed shirt. Oh, and of course a curmudgeon too.
Even if that weren't the case, though, I think seeing these two
characters in action, and I do mean action, would have been a
disquieting experience.
A young, if you'll pardon the expression, heterosexual couple with a
child was also present. They cast disapproving looks at the frisky
twosome on their way out. I'll bet they absolutely loved having to
explain to Junior, who looked to be about six, what he'd just been
exposed to.
The location of the incident lent to its unsettling effect. If it were
in a bar on Chicago's north side or Gay Day at Disney World or
someplace like that, it wouldn't have been as unexpected.
But this was Orland Park for heaven's sake. In a family restaurant, if
that term is yet used. It appears as though the homosexual revolution
is spreading even into the bastions of solid traditionalism.
Some gay activists perform public displays of affection in a calculated
desire to stir things up. Getting in your face is certainly one way to
do that.
A couple of gals, possibly bored with another mediocre Los Angeles
season, tossed a lip lock on one another during a Dodger game a few
years back. One of the women had been a porn actress, but surely that
had nothing to do with this bid for notoriety. Another fan, obviously a
narrow minded bigot, complained and the osculating duo was tossed out.
Falling back on the great American dream of finding someone with deep
pockets to sue, the ladies threatened legal action. The team's owner
folded like a cheap suit. He was troubled, he shared with anyone who'd
listen, about what the incident implied about his organization.
So he gave 5,000 free tickets to gay and lesbian organizations and the
triumphant couple was treated to behind the plate seats. Stadium staff
members weren't overlooked in the boss's beneficence. They were given,
at no expense to them, sensitivity training.
Through the years, gay "kiss ins" have been organized at various public
venues, including college campuses. Even allegedly Catholic
institutions such as DePaul University have annual "Queer Kiss Ins."
Not that all homosexual displays of affection are political statements.
Perhaps, as with outrageous shows put on by heterosexual couples, there
is an element of exhibitionism in some of them.
Look at us. We're just dying for attention and want to rock your world.
Little wonder that "get a room" has become a catchphrase.
Then there are the displays that are genuine expressions of caring.
Just as there is extensive homosexual promiscuity, there are also
couples who establish and maintain long-term, in some instances
lifelong, relationships.
Most Americans may not approve of gay marriage or using sexual
preference (you may prefer "orientation") as the basis for civil rights
legislation. But many, maybe most, also think that adults generally
have the right to live their lives as they see fit.
Call me a homophobe, but I don't believe overt kissing, cuddling,
petting, you name it, will win any undecideds over. Some things are
better not done in public.
The technical reason for this is, as I best recall, the ick factor.
I'll have to check the old fogy handbook to make sure.
I don't have a "right" not to be offended, just a preference. And we
certainly don't need any new laws. We already have too many of them. A
little common sense and consideration, on the part of straights, gays
and anything in between, should suffice.
.

User: "Peacenik"

Title: Re: You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss 16 Nov 2005 03:41:58 PM
"rob wade" <rob_c_wade_01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132090288.815527.324070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss


Michael Bates




It was Sunday evening at a casual Orland Park restaurant. A couple, in
their late 20s or early 30s, held hands, deeply kissed and couldn't
take their hands off one another. The young lovers were both men.

If they had been a heterosexual couple, would you have been equally
disapproving?
.
User: "towelie"

Title: Re: You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss 16 Nov 2005 04:04:17 PM
TV's Peacenik wrote:

"rob wade" <rob_c_wade_01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132090288.815527.324070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss


Michael Bates




It was Sunday evening at a casual Orland Park restaurant. A couple, in
their late 20s or early 30s, held hands, deeply kissed and couldn't
take their hands off one another. The young lovers were both men.


If they had been a heterosexual couple, would you have been equally
disapproving?

Personally, I don't want to see that, whether the couple is hetero, homo, or
beastial. But I don't throw a fit, I just look the other way.
Rob, on the other hand, probably plays a game of "pocket pool" when he sees
two dudes going at it. There's nothing wrong with that. However, being one
way and preaching against it like he does is wrong.
--
aa #2133
ap #19
.
User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss 16 Nov 2005 06:21:06 PM
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TV's Peacenik wrote:

"rob wade" <rob_c_wade_01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132090288.815527.324070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss


Michael Bates




It was Sunday evening at a casual Orland Park restaurant. A couple, in
their late 20s or early 30s, held hands, deeply kissed and couldn't
take their hands off one another. The young lovers were both men.


If they had been a heterosexual couple, would you have been equally
disapproving?


Personally, I don't want to see that, whether the couple is hetero, homo,
or beastial. But I don't throw a fit, I just look the other way.

Heterosexual couple "deeply kissing" on the bus....URGH! Not even the back
of the bus! I wanted to hit them over the head with my book
.
User: "TheGist"

Title: Re: You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss 17 Nov 2005 06:36:13 PM

Heterosexual couple "deeply kissing" on the bus....URGH! Not even the back
of the bus! I wanted to hit them over the head with my book

Why does it bother you that not everybody is as sexually repressed
and frustrated as you?
Not everybody wants to be obese and stay at home all day with a herd of
cats like you.
.




User: "raven1"

Title: Re: You must remember this, a kiss isn't just a kiss 22 Nov 2005 05:14:04 AM
On 15 Nov 2005 13:31:28 -0800, "rob wade" <rob_c_wade_01@yahoo.com>
wrote:

It was Sunday evening at a casual Orland Park restaurant. A couple, in
their late 20s or early 30s, held hands, deeply kissed and couldn't
take their hands off one another. The young lovers were both men.

Often in articles relating to changing social mores, the writer begins
by assuring readers he's no prude. That's not happening here.

I live a sheltered life by design. I know that I'm an old fogy, a
fuddy-duddy and a stuffed shirt. Oh, and of course a curmudgeon too.

Then shut the ***** up, and let other people live their lives without
hearing you ***** about it.
---
"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
.


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