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Your Thoughts: Should accused school shooter Kenny Bartley be tried as an adult?
http://www.volunteertv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4133977
Knoxville,TN,USA
What are your neighbors saying about our latest poll? Here are their comments.
I believe that he should be tried as an adult in this case becauase he is old enough
to understand the consequences of his actions. He has hurt so many people by his
actions and deserves to be punished for what he has done. There is nothing that can
be done to bring Mr. Bruce back, but punishing him may bring some justice to the
community.
If he not tried as an adult what message will that send to the community and the
families of the victims involved? There can be no real justice for the crimes
committed, but knowing that he locked up behind bars and no chance of getting out,
may bring a little peace to the community. I believe he should be tried as an adult
and I hope he it does happen. I hope that he gets the worst punishment there is
because he has taken someone that meant so much to so many of us, and that void can
never be filled again.
Mary Anne Horn, 20, Jacksboro
Ken Bartley should be tried as an adult and prosocuted to the fullest exent of law.
Reguardless of wheather he did or didn't intended on going to school that day to kill
someone, the fact remains that one man is dead and the two other men were left
fighting for their lives. Ken needs to take responsibility for his actions and be
tried as an adult, if not this will leave a window of opportunity open for "copy cat"
trouble makers to do the same thing and expect to receive the same punishment if he
is tried as a juvenile. I think it is safe to say that it is going to take more than
a slap on the wrist to grab this young man's attention. I think he knew good and well
what he was doing before and during the time he was unloading a gun on the three men.
Reguardless of if he is tried as an adult or not, Ken will live the rest of his life
with the blood or Mr. Bruce, Mr. Seale, and Mr. Pierce on his hands. While his wound
healed in a week, he never had a life threating injury. During that week, Mrs. Bruce
buried her husband and Mr. Seale and Mr. Pierce fought for their lives. If you want
justice to be served, then try him as an adult. He took a mans life!
Kari Harris, 28, Jacksboro
This is a terrible thing to happen to anybody.
Yes, this child should be accountable for his actions, but until we see that these
kids are not purchasing these guns. These guns are in the home and mom or dad, or
uncle grandpa--whoever owns these guns should be arrested along side of the person
responsible for the crime. They are just as guilty. Until we start punishing the real
people that let these guns "appear" in kids hands, we will continue to see this sad
tragedy occur.
alma fox, 49, Loudon
hello, I personally do not feel that kenny bartly should be tried as an adult.I'm not
for sure how Ten. prisons work but I'm sure its not much different than other
states.I'm 54 years old now,but I got into some trouble when I was 16. I was
sentences to a reformatory in Ohio, for an undetermined amount of time,which meant it
could be one year or five.I saw everything imaginable while there not to mention all
the illegal ways to make money.
the point is there is no rehabilitation.
Wayne Perry, 54
I understand that the student committed a horrendous act and something needs to be
done about it. But I do not understand why there is even a question of trying him as
an adult.
This boy is only 14 years old! In this country a person is not adult enough to drive
before age 16, unable to vote or go to war until age 18, unable to drink until 21.
If he had damaged property instead of shooting someone, his PARENTS would be held
finacially responsible, not him. Just this week in Georgia a woman has been charged
with CHILD molestation for having sex with a 15 year old boy.
Our society has failed this boy in his short 14 years. His parents and community
need to take some responsibilty in what has happened.
Throwing this boy away in prison for the rest of his life is a cop out.
Our community & judicial system need to learn how to prevent such behavior and give
this child the help he needs & deserves.
Mary Williford, 37, Knoxville
There should also be charges placed against the boy's father. He obviously left his
gun accessible to his son, fully aware that the son had issues. The father also has a
history of gun violence, so he is not only negligent, he is a bad role model. They
should both do time.
Shana McElroy, 40, Clinton
What this kid did was so tragic, he deserves the electric chair. I don't go for the
fact, that, just because he is a juvenile he should be treated as such. He certainly
looks like a bright individual on TV. Since they now have lethal injection, as the
form of Capital Punishment, it is no longer a deterrent to these types of crimes.
I say, lock that dude up for life and throw away the key!
Bill Reichert, 54, Fairfield Glade
Yes He Should Be Tried As An Adult and Get the maximum pumishment.
Millisa Gingerich, 28, Crossville, TN
i,am truly sorry for all of the familys and i have been praying for every one. no he
should not be tried as a adult, if he had got the help that he need maybe all of this
would have not happen we need to stand back and look at the schools and our self
first we took god out of the schools and out of our hearts and then we have let the
bullies take over i see a lot of news where the kids have been pick on and push
around because how they were dress or they were poor or week and small or dislike i
know in fact that this happens because my son is one of them that gets push round
there were something there had to happen to make him do this he has a mental illness
he needs help he is not adult he is still a young boy that needs our help and prayers
why do we have to turn our backs on him if they tried a 14 year old whats next a 10
year old has a adult think about it the devil is working hard and harder
teresa hackler, 48, Philadelphia
I think myself that the boy needs some help to deal with the pressure that is on
young kids these days.I'm not saying it was right what he done but he need's help
cause he was looking for attion.
My self i Have a 14 year old who went to school with Kenny some thru Elementary and
knowed him thru some of the middle school years when Mr. Seales was at the middle
school. My Honest opinion is that the way Mr. Seales treated some of the kids was
really bad he would make fun of them if they was over weight or if they wore glasses.
the reason i know this is because my son went thru two years of Mr.Seales putting him
down .Telling him he was going to turn out to be dumb or making fun of the kids. My
son began to hate school and he had perfect attendence and once he got to the middle
school already scared of going in to the middle school was told he was going to be
dumb he begun to act like he was sick to stay home or call for me to pick him up. I
took him to the doctor and could not find anything medical wrong then we took him out
of Lafollette Middle School And put him in Wynn he enjoys going to school now the
teachers are wonderful up at wynn they make learning fun once more for him. So i
think he need's some very good counsleing and some people to stand up for him and let
everyone know just how Mr.Seales treats the kid's in school. I had a meeting with
Mr.Seales one day before i took my son out and he told that if his son didn't
concentrate on his homework and get it done he would just slap him in the back of the
head to get his attion so i was just wanting to let you know mine and my son's point
of view. So that maybe some one else that has had any trouble with him will stand up
.. My thoughts and prayers go out to the familys to all the family's that is envolved
in this bad thing that has happened.God Bless Everyone and don't forget to hug your
kid's a let them know you are there to come talk to you and that you love them know
matter what.
Elizabeth, 36, Lafollette area
We don't know the whole story about this only hear say. Let's wait and see what the
boy has to say.
Ms Cox, 68, Oliver Springs
I think he should die of a slow hard death because of the pain that we all know Ken
Bruce had to go threw.
Virginia Smith, 35, LaFollette
In my opinion, I think that if he was willing to kill an innocent man he should be
willing to accept his punishment, not let off because he was "insane" at the time it
was going on.
April Smith, 17, Lafollette
I think he should die a slow hard death because if he can shoot and kill someone he
deserves to die.
Keshia, 14, LaFollette
absolutely no-this poor childs life is ruined as it is.the young man needs help for
what led up to this tragedy.if anyone needs to looked at a little closer its the boys
parents.sending him to jail for the rest of his life is not the answer,but he does
need to be punished but its clear his reactions were that of a kid not an adult.
Dave, 37, Farragut
He had lots of problems when he was a child. He had lots of stuff on his mined at the
time of the shooting. He just wanted someone to love him. So just give him another
chance to be a child. For him being 14yrs old he shouldn't be prospered as an adult.
Tammy, 31, Russellville
He should not only be tried as an adult but should also be eligible to receive the
death penalty. If he is old enough to commit an adult crime he should be old enough
to pay an adult price.
After all he is old enought to understand that killing is wrong.
Darrel Riche, 42, Knoxville
No question he did a terrible thing. The laws should be changed so all will be
treated the same if the people want 15 year old children tried as adults, not left to
the emotions of men!
Tom Webster, 56, Lenoir City
I think he should be tried as an adult for the pure fact that any person that walks
into a public place filled with that many people with a loaded weapon was intending
on shooting or killing someone. Therefor he knew excatlly what he was doing when he
walked through those doors.
Litsa Watts, 24, Greenback
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I intend to last long enough to put out of business all *****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.
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"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
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Title: THE ONLY GOOD CONVICT IS A DEAD CONVICT ==> Your Thoughts: Should accused school shooter Kenny Bartley be tried as an adult? 18 Nov 2005 10:37:22 AM
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:35:19 -0800, "_ G O D _" <demigod1@sprint.ca>
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Your Thoughts: Should accused school shooter Kenny Bartley be tried as an adult?

http://www.volunteertv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4133977

Knoxville,TN,USA

What are your neighbors saying about our latest poll? Here are their comments.


I believe that he should be tried as an adult in this case becauase he is old enough
to understand the consequences of his actions. He has hurt so many people by his
actions and deserves to be punished for what he has done. There is nothing that can
be done to bring Mr. Bruce back, but punishing him may bring some justice to the
community.
If he not tried as an adult what message will that send to the community and the
families of the victims involved? There can be no real justice for the crimes
committed, but knowing that he locked up behind bars and no chance of getting out,
may bring a little peace to the community. I believe he should be tried as an adult
and I hope he it does happen. I hope that he gets the worst punishment there is
because he has taken someone that meant so much to so many of us, and that void can
never be filled again.
Mary Anne Horn, 20, Jacksboro



Ken Bartley should be tried as an adult and prosocuted to the fullest exent of law.
Reguardless of wheather he did or didn't intended on going to school that day to kill
someone, the fact remains that one man is dead and the two other men were left
fighting for their lives. Ken needs to take responsibility for his actions and be
tried as an adult, if not this will leave a window of opportunity open for "copy cat"
trouble makers to do the same thing and expect to receive the same punishment if he
is tried as a juvenile. I think it is safe to say that it is going to take more than
a slap on the wrist to grab this young man's attention. I think he knew good and well
what he was doing before and during the time he was unloading a gun on the three men.
Reguardless of if he is tried as an adult or not, Ken will live the rest of his life
with the blood or Mr. Bruce, Mr. Seale, and Mr. Pierce on his hands. While his wound
healed in a week, he never had a life threating injury. During that week, Mrs. Bruce
buried her husband and Mr. Seale and Mr. Pierce fought for their lives. If you want
justice to be served, then try him as an adult. He took a mans life!
Kari Harris, 28, Jacksboro



This is a terrible thing to happen to anybody.
Yes, this child should be accountable for his actions, but until we see that these
kids are not purchasing these guns. These guns are in the home and mom or dad, or
uncle grandpa--whoever owns these guns should be arrested along side of the person
responsible for the crime. They are just as guilty. Until we start punishing the real
people that let these guns "appear" in kids hands, we will continue to see this sad
tragedy occur.
alma fox, 49, Loudon



hello, I personally do not feel that kenny bartly should be tried as an adult.I'm not
for sure how Ten. prisons work but I'm sure its not much different than other
states.I'm 54 years old now,but I got into some trouble when I was 16. I was
sentences to a reformatory in Ohio, for an undetermined amount of time,which meant it
could be one year or five.I saw everything imaginable while there not to mention all
the illegal ways to make money.
the point is there is no rehabilitation.
Wayne Perry, 54



I understand that the student committed a horrendous act and something needs to be
done about it. But I do not understand why there is even a question of trying him as
an adult.

This boy is only 14 years old! In this country a person is not adult enough to drive
before age 16, unable to vote or go to war until age 18, unable to drink until 21.
If he had damaged property instead of shooting someone, his PARENTS would be held
finacially responsible, not him. Just this week in Georgia a woman has been charged
with CHILD molestation for having sex with a 15 year old boy.

Our society has failed this boy in his short 14 years. His parents and community
need to take some responsibilty in what has happened.

Throwing this boy away in prison for the rest of his life is a cop out.
Our community & judicial system need to learn how to prevent such behavior and give
this child the help he needs & deserves.
Mary Williford, 37, Knoxville



There should also be charges placed against the boy's father. He obviously left his
gun accessible to his son, fully aware that the son had issues. The father also has a
history of gun violence, so he is not only negligent, he is a bad role model. They
should both do time.
Shana McElroy, 40, Clinton



What this kid did was so tragic, he deserves the electric chair. I don't go for the
fact, that, just because he is a juvenile he should be treated as such. He certainly
looks like a bright individual on TV. Since they now have lethal injection, as the
form of Capital Punishment, it is no longer a deterrent to these types of crimes.
I say, lock that dude up for life and throw away the key!
Bill Reichert, 54, Fairfield Glade



Yes He Should Be Tried As An Adult and Get the maximum pumishment.
Millisa Gingerich, 28, Crossville, TN



i,am truly sorry for all of the familys and i have been praying for every one. no he
should not be tried as a adult, if he had got the help that he need maybe all of this
would have not happen we need to stand back and look at the schools and our self
first we took god out of the schools and out of our hearts and then we have let the
bullies take over i see a lot of news where the kids have been pick on and push
around because how they were dress or they were poor or week and small or dislike i
know in fact that this happens because my son is one of them that gets push round
there were something there had to happen to make him do this he has a mental illness
he needs help he is not adult he is still a young boy that needs our help and prayers
why do we have to turn our backs on him if they tried a 14 year old whats next a 10
year old has a adult think about it the devil is working hard and harder
teresa hackler, 48, Philadelphia



I think myself that the boy needs some help to deal with the pressure that is on
young kids these days.I'm not saying it was right what he done but he need's help
cause he was looking for attion.
My self i Have a 14 year old who went to school with Kenny some thru Elementary and
knowed him thru some of the middle school years when Mr. Seales was at the middle
school. My Honest opinion is that the way Mr. Seales treated some of the kids was
really bad he would make fun of them if they was over weight or if they wore glasses.
the reason i know this is because my son went thru two years of Mr.Seales putting him
down .Telling him he was going to turn out to be dumb or making fun of the kids. My
son began to hate school and he had perfect attendence and once he got to the middle
school already scared of going in to the middle school was told he was going to be
dumb he begun to act like he was sick to stay home or call for me to pick him up. I
took him to the doctor and could not find anything medical wrong then we took him out
of Lafollette Middle School And put him in Wynn he enjoys going to school now the
teachers are wonderful up at wynn they make learning fun once more for him. So i
think he need's some very good counsleing and some people to stand up for him and let
everyone know just how Mr.Seales treats the kid's in school. I had a meeting with
Mr.Seales one day before i took my son out and he told that if his son didn't
concentrate on his homework and get it done he would just slap him in the back of the
head to get his attion so i was just wanting to let you know mine and my son's point
of view. So that maybe some one else that has had any trouble with him will stand up
. My thoughts and prayers go out to the familys to all the family's that is envolved
in this bad thing that has happened.God Bless Everyone and don't forget to hug your
kid's a let them know you are there to come talk to you and that you love them know
matter what.
Elizabeth, 36, Lafollette area



We don't know the whole story about this only hear say. Let's wait and see what the
boy has to say.
Ms Cox, 68, Oliver Springs



I think he should die of a slow hard death because of the pain that we all know Ken
Bruce had to go threw.
Virginia Smith, 35, LaFollette



In my opinion, I think that if he was willing to kill an innocent man he should be
willing to accept his punishment, not let off because he was "insane" at the time it
was going on.
April Smith, 17, Lafollette



I think he should die a slow hard death because if he can shoot and kill someone he
deserves to die.
Keshia, 14, LaFollette



absolutely no-this poor childs life is ruined as it is.the young man needs help for
what led up to this tragedy.if anyone needs to looked at a little closer its the boys
parents.sending him to jail for the rest of his life is not the answer,but he does
need to be punished but its clear his reactions were that of a kid not an adult.
Dave, 37, Farragut



He had lots of problems when he was a child. He had lots of stuff on his mined at the
time of the shooting. He just wanted someone to love him. So just give him another
chance to be a child. For him being 14yrs old he shouldn't be prospered as an adult.
Tammy, 31, Russellville



He should not only be tried as an adult but should also be eligible to receive the
death penalty. If he is old enough to commit an adult crime he should be old enough
to pay an adult price.
After all he is old enought to understand that killing is wrong.
Darrel Riche, 42, Knoxville



No question he did a terrible thing. The laws should be changed so all will be
treated the same if the people want 15 year old children tried as adults, not left to
the emotions of men!
Tom Webster, 56, Lenoir City



I think he should be tried as an adult for the pure fact that any person that walks
into a public place filled with that many people with a loaded weapon was intending
on shooting or killing someone. Therefor he knew excatlly what he was doing when he
walked through those doors.
Litsa Watts, 24, Greenback

--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all *****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________

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