Religions > Bible > -- Being subject to SPAM after participation in Passover dialog on religious newsgroups
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28 Mar 2005 02:40:59 PM |
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-- Being subject to SPAM after participation in Passover dialog on religious newsgroups |
That one is again subject to SPAM as a result of participation and dialog in
religious discussion groups over Easter/Passover, gives rise to the
suggestion that one has become a target to religious motivated attacks.
My ISP's SPAM filter does an excellent job of filtering out 99.9% of such
attacks.
The computation of Passover from the Dead Sea Scrolls differs to that of the
modern Hebrews and differs to that of the some present Christian
groups--When did you say Passover was and what historical
justification do you have for such a claim?
A comment needs to be made on how Jews the from 103 BCE to 70 CE could have
such divergent view on when Pesach (Passover) occurred. This year 5765
(2004-2005) Pesach (Erev Pesach) begins at sundown on April 23, and ends at
nightfall on May 1, 2005
Especially so as it marks the birth of the Jewish people as a nation led by
Moshe (Moses) over 3000 years ago. This is as much a celebration of our
spiritual freedom as the physical liberation from slavery.
The Dead Sea Scroll temple priestly service tradition from the time of Mount
Sinai is supported by an oral, genealogical, chronological and taxonomical
tradition known as the "Book of Time Divisions according to Jubilees and
Weeks" {
ie. Genesis {22/7 = 3W1D} ... Torah & Jubilee at Sinai 1550 BCE as 50J + 12
x 6J {ie. 72J} = 1 Nisan 5737 as 20/21 March 1977 ... 6,000 years as
122J3W1D {ie. 122 Jubilees + 22 years} ... a further 19 year metonic cycle
to 20/21 March 1977 which takes us to 20 March = Equinox / Wednesday 21
March 1996 = 1 Nisan 5756.
} The storing of such literary records is obviously an act of preservation
in the face of destruction and disbandonment.
Furthermore within the Dead Sea Scrolls, as the value 6J = 294 years equates
to the ordinal value of 107016 days or 293 x 365.2425 {solar topical year}
and is a multiple of the 'oth cycle {31-Mar-1999 minus 3-Apr-1996 = 1092
days} this ought to eventually bring us back again to a reprise of 20 March
= Equinox / Wednesday 21 March = 1 Nisan
Torah & Jubilee at Sinai 1550 BCE as 50J + 12 x 6J [72J] = 1 Nisan 5737 as
20/21 March 1977 to 1978 CE as the 18th year of 19 year metonic as lunar
cycle...
Therefore to achieve a continuum of 6,000 years as 122J3W1D {ie. 122
Jubilees + 22 years} will simply require an addition of a further 19 year
metonic cycle to 20/21 March 1977 which takes us to 20 March = Equinox /
Wednesday 21 March 1996 = 1 Nisan 5756.
Extending further the 'oth notion as the example conveyed by the Dead Sea
Scrolls from the sychronisation of 20 March = Equinox / Wednesday 21 March
1996 = 1 Nisan 5756:
3-Apr-1996 = "the 3rd day {ie. Wednesday evening the 14th Nisan} of Maaziah
falls the Passover." [4Q321]
31-Mar-1999 = "In the fourth year the festivals begin on the third day {ie.
Wednesday evening the 14th Nisan} of the course of Jakim with the Passover."
[4Q321]
27-Mar-2002 = "the 3rd day {ie. Wednesday evening the 14th Nisan} of Maaziah
falls the Passover." [4Q321]
23-Mar-2005 = the third day of the course of Jakim coincides with this
year's Easter, but the Jewish calendar passover is 31 days later on
23-Apr-2005.
As I said, "Last chance Jesus... Be a nice chap and convert to
Christianity..."
- dolf
- <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/legal.html>
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29 Mar 2005 12:54:46 AM |
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Qolon schrieb:
That one is again subject to SPAM as a result of participation and dialog in
religious discussion groups over Easter/Passover
Passover is just under a month away. Easter has nothing to do with it.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Qolon" |
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29 Mar 2005 02:13:01 AM |
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Do be careful by those statements {ie. their connection nor just to 31 CE,
but pre-Sinai} as to the consequential turmoil you are creating for your
readers.
- dolf
"Yishai ben Michael" <ybm@ch.arj> wrote in message
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Qolon schrieb:
That one is again subject to SPAM as a result of participation and dialog
in
religious discussion groups over Easter/Passover
Passover is just under a month away. Easter has nothing to do with it.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Yishai ben Michael" |
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29 Mar 2005 02:24:12 AM |
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Qolon schrieb:
Do be careful by those statements {ie. their connection nor just to 31 CE,
but pre-Sinai} as to the consequential turmoil you are creating for your
readers.
Passover is just under a month away. The Xian festival of Easter has
nothing to do with the biblical festival of Passover.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Qolon" |
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29 Mar 2005 03:08:08 AM |
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The constant harping over the appropriate times for customs and
festivals is what the elders would say, "informed-katecheo
concerning-peri nothing-oudeis" and is no guartantee that one is
'walking-stoicheo orderly-stoicheo, and keep-phulasso the law-nomos {ie.
Torah}." [Acts 21:24]
Upon which day is Easter/Passover occurs really is of no consequence to me,
because I do not observe them. It is neither a guarantee that one is
observing them to God-theos (ie. YHWH} and nor am I as a gentile under any
obligation to observe such customs.
However, I have included below aspects which do interest me...
- dolf
"Yishai ben Michael" <ybm@ch.arj> wrote in message
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Qolon schrieb:
Do be careful by those statements {ie. their connection not just to 31 CE,
but pre-Sinai} as to the consequential turmoil you are creating for your
readers.
Passover is just under a month away. The Xian festival of Easter has
nothing to do with the biblical festival of Passover.
Yishai ben Michael
QOLON NOTE:
The problem is that whilst both calendars are associated to the 19 year
metonic cycle in someway, the 14 Nisan in the Dead Sea Scroll calendar
differs to the 14 Nisan in the Jewish Calendar which is affected by the
intercalation 30 days in years 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 17, 19 of a 19 year cycle.
Whilst it is all very well to say, "you miss the whole point of the Dead Sea
Scrolls. They have the Passover on Wednesday, which is correct"
The difficulty is this--Because the Dead Sea Scroll Calendar is only 364
days in length, it will lose 1 to 2 days per year depending on when the
regular solar year is 365 or 366 days. Thus when the 1092 (3 x 364 days)
cycle is twice completed, each of the 24 priestly divisions will have served
for 1 week each on 13 occasions, and a new cycle begins.
20-Mar-1996 starts with 22nd course of Gamul
13-Mar-2002 starts with 22nd course of Gamul
5-Mar-2005 starts with 22nd course of Gamul
26-Feb-2014 starts with 22nd course of Gamul
Thus, whilst the author of the Dead Sea Scrolls might be tempted to use the
calendar for plotting when each priestly service occurs with regards to
Passover:
1st year "3rd day of Maaziah falls the Passover." [4Q321]
2nd year "3rd of Seorim: the Passover." [4Q321]
3rd year "3rd of Abiah: the Passover." [4Q321]
4th year "3rd of Jakim: the Passover." [4Q321]
5th year "3rd of Immer: the Passover." [4Q321]
The time creep and without any visible means of intercalation (unlike the
modern Jewish calendar), makes this impractiable for most instances but the
exception being a proximity to the metonic cycle at the end of each 294 year
cycle.
I made the caveat that the 3rd day of a priestly course might not be viewed
as being a Wednesday as I have shown, but rather a Tuesday as in this
example: "On the 3rd day of the course of Bilgah on the 30th day of lunar
month, on the 28th day of the fourth solar month." [4Q320]
This ambiguity of interpretation is most apparent in the change-over of the
priestly service which occurs on the Sabbath day. In this instance even
though the day falls as the Sabbath as the last day of the 6th priestly
cycle Mijamin, it is refered to as the Sabbath and the 1st day of the 7th
priestly cycle of Hakkoz: "On the Sabbath of the course of Hakkoz as 30 day
day lunar month, on the 30th day of the second solar month." [4Q320] "The
3rd month starts with Hakkoz." [4Q321]
Wise, Abegg & Cook suggest of Dead Sea Scroll fragment 4Q319 which covers a
period of six jubilees (ie. 294 years as 6J), that it possesses a unique
mystery associated with the cycle and that being it bears a relationship to
an intellectual {ie. a taxonomical and chronological} consideration related
to the year of creation as Genesis--Being the consideration that due to the
year of creation as beginning within the 2nd and not the 1st, the Jubilees
are counted through 2 through 7 and not 1 through 6. However the reason for
this is not readily understood. [Wise, Abegg & Cook, Dead Sea Scrolls, ISBN
0-7336-0506-0, p 307]
I am not conveying the earth is 6,000 years old. But that from out of the
notion of eternity came a chronological, metathetic (ie. Gk. Logos) and
cosmological apprehension, as the creation 'of the first time' or the
uniting of the double equinoctial horizons {ie. the balance of the scales as
the day of weighing words and of reckoning the years; connected to the 20/21
March & 23 September equinox to which the implicit creation of the 22
letters comprising the Hebrew taxonomy and specifically their Jubilee (base
7 numbering) chronological sequencing by the HRUMACHIS {ie. He (#5) -
vBiege, Resh (#200) - vPurple, Vav (#6) - vRed, Mem (#40) - vBlue, Aleph
(#1) - vOrange, Chet (#8) - vCyan, Yod (#10) - vGreen, Samek (#60) - vYellow
= #330 % 81 = #6} as an overlay is thought to apply.
From my perspective, the real significance of the Dead Sea scrolls lays in
the 'oth value of it as 6 Jubilees being 294 years of 364 days which equals
293 years of 365.2425 days, whereupon it synchronises with the Vernal
Equinox on 20 March and whether this has a relationship to not simply to
yearly festivals, but to the determination of the metathetic time sequence
imposed upon nature:
From Genesis/Arch as (22/7) 3W1D
#1 - Nature contains Nature {#4 - Nature amended in its Nature} - Remember
the Sabbath?
#2 - Nature rejoices in its Nature {#5 - Act of Nature} - Honor Parents
#3 - Nature surmounts Nature {#6 - Form of Nature} - Commit no Murder
#4 - Nature amended in its Nature {#7 - Engendering Nature} - Avoid Adultery
#5 - Act of Nature {#8 - Transforming Nature} - Do not Steal
#6 - Form of Nature {#9 - Autonomous Nature} - Bear no False Witness
#7 - Engendering Nature {#10 - Totality of Nature} - Do not Covet
to Telos as 122J3W1D
#8 - Transforming Nature
"...those of them who were left held firm to the commandments of God He
instituted His covenant with Israel for ever, revealing to them things
hidden, in which all Israel had gone wrong: His holy Sabbaths, His glorious
festivals, His righteous laws, His reliable ways. The desires of His will,
which Man should carry out and so have life in them, He opened up to them."
[The Damascus Document]
Thus the issue for me, is how does this apply to the broader scheme of
things:
Telos ('achariyth [Genesis 49:1]) = Arch (re'shiyth [Genesis 1:1]) + c² :
If Genesis/Arch as (22/7) 3W1D to Telos as 122J3W1D equals:
20 x 6J as 'oth 294 year cycle + 2J3W1D {ie. 2 x Jubilees + 22 years} and
Jubilee & Torah @ Sinai as 50J + 12 x 6J as 'oth 294 year cycle + 3W1D {ie
22 years}
It appears to me, that such measurement of time is the antithesis of the
symbollic use made of the Tetragrammation of YHWH by the Pythagoreans
[Romans 2:24] adopted during the time of Babylonian exile and that it
relates to an alternate chronological interpretation applied to the 7 fold
cosmological principles {ie. symbolic nomenclature of the seven visible
planets (Egyptian 7 Planetary Genii)} to which other peoples made planetary
associations as the mother of the images of Heaven being the monarchial
principle on which the world is governed, and the supernal or
mutli-dimensional worldview/paradigm pertaining to the all under heaven.
The Book of Time Divisions by Jubilees and Weeks makes reference of these in
association to Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses as covenants:
1. Adam ... 22/7 = 3W1D [#13, #12, #29, #69 - Profound Use/ The Function of
the Mysterious, #11 - The Value of Non-Existence/ The Function of the
Non-Existent, (#9, #22)]
2. Noah ... 26J5W Inconstancy of Achievement/ Practising Placidity, #54 -
Culturing Perspectives/ The Cultivation of Intuition, (#81, #20)]
3. Abraham ... 40J4W [#80, #53, #72, #32 - Natural Guide/ The Virtue of
Holiness, #16 - Being a Guide/ Returning to the Root, (#35, #75)]
4. Torah Law & Jubilee @ Sinai [50J] - 1550 BCE ... [#38, #38, #40, #20 -
Left without Language/ Different From the Vulgar, #56 - Abstruse Virtuosity/
The Virtue of the Mysterious, (#22, #57)]
The Book of Daniel in [Daniel 9:24-27] also speaks of it in terms of exile,
messianic expectations concerning times as the basis of the law covenant
with Israel [Daniel 9:2-19].
5. Artaxerxes' decree as Hebrew's return from Babylonian Exile & Pythagorean
use of YHWH Tetragrammation [72J] + 3(3²+1)/2=[2W1D]} -#3 = 457 BCE ... #10
= 33 CE [#9, #31, #51, #61 - Virtuosity at Using 'Beneath'/ The Virtue of
Humility, #24 - Important Distinctions/ Trouble from Indulgence, (#36, #39)]
6. Jesus of Nazareth in midst 69th Week = 30 CE as [10J] = 490 years - 33 CE
.... [#3, #20, #52, #73 - Employing Deeming/ Daring to Act, #79 - Recognizing
Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations, (#1, #16)]
7. Telos [122J3W1D] - 6,000 years + {9(9²+1)/2=[52W5D]} ... [#71, #80, #45,
#35 - Great Guiding Signs?/ The Virtue of Benevolence, 22 - The Point to
Reversal?/ Humility's Increase, (#54, #50)]
One last comment on Telos ('achariyth [Genesis 49:1]) = Arch (re'shiyth
[Genesis 1:1]) + c² as it relates to Wise, Abegg & Cook's suggestion of
Dead Sea Scroll fragment 4Q319 which covers a period of six jubilees (ie.
294 years as 6J), that it possesses a unique mystery associated with the
cycle and that being it bears a relationship to an intellectual {ie. a
taxonomical and chronological} consideration related to the year of creation
as Genesis--Being the consideration that due to the year of creation as
beginning within the 2nd and not the 1st, the Jubilees are counted through 2
through 7 and not 1 through 6. However the reason for this is not readily
understood. [Wise, Abegg & Cook, Dead Sea Scrolls, ISBN 0-7336-0506-0, p
307]
This might be an attempt to describe that the 2 x Jubilees in the totality
of 6,000 {ie. 122J3W1D} years precedes the consideration of the Jubilee &
Torah @ Sinai rather than after:
122J3W1D = 20 x 6J as 'oth 294 year cycle + 2J3W1D {ie. 2 x Jubilees + 22
years} and
Therefore as Jubilee & Torah @ Sinai as 50J = 2450 AM or elapsed years.
2450 / 294 years = 8 x 294 {ie. 6J} + 98 {2 x Jubilees} years
Thus we'd expect that from the Jubilee & Torah @ Sinai as 50J with the
elapse of 12 x 6J as 'oth 294 year cycles to have a reprise on 20 March 1977
= 1 Nisan 5737 {ie. as the 18th year of the 19 year metonic cycle} + 3W1D
{ie 22 years}
- dolf
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| User: "Yishai ben Michael" |
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29 Mar 2005 03:20:22 AM |
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Qolon schrieb:
Upon which day is Easter/Passover occurs really is of no consequence to me,
because I do not observe them.
The biblical festival of passover begins on the 14th of Nissan. Every year.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Qolon" |
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29 Mar 2005 03:31:17 AM |
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Of course it does, irrespective of whether the lunar year cycle is 354, 355,
383 or 385 days.
But what date was it in the western solar calendar of 365/366 days 31 CE, my
guess is Wedesday 2 April 31 CE?
- dolf
"Yishai ben Michael" <ybm@ch.arj> wrote in message
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Qolon schrieb:
Upon which day is Easter/Passover occurs really is of no consequence to
me,
because I do not observe them.
The biblical festival of passover begins on the 14th of Nissan. Every year.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Yishai ben Michael" |
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29 Mar 2005 03:38:37 AM |
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Qolon schrieb:
Of course it does, irrespective of whether the lunar year cycle is 354, 355,
383 or 385 days.
The biblical calendar is not a lunar calendar. Nor is it a solar
calendar. It is a luni-solar calendar. The festival of Passover must be
celebrated in the spring. Since there is a difference of about 11 days
between the lunar and solar calender every year, after a couple of
years, the festival of Passover would be celebrated in seasons that it
is not biblically ordained.
But what date was it in the western solar calendar of 365/366 days 31 CE, my
guess is Wedesday 2 April 31 CE?
I do not know. But the Western solar calendar is irellevant because it
is a man-made calendar. The biblical calendar tells us clearly that the
Festival of Passover is on the 14th of Nissan. Every year.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Qolon" |
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29 Mar 2005 03:56:26 AM |
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Actually it might be called an assimilative calendar, which is dependent on
synchronising with the vernal equinox upon which 1 Nissan falls each 18th
year.
Thus 5737 MOD 19 is the 18th year and 1 Nissan begins 20 March 1977, 19
years later 5756 is the 18th and 1 Nissan begins 21 March 1996.
The intercalation of 30 days occuring in the years 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 17, 19
is similarly determined by finding the offset {ie. MOD 19} within a 19 year
cycle.
Apart from the implied association to New moons and Full moons, how is it
solar?
"Yishai ben Michael" <ybm@ch.arj> wrote in message
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Qolon schrieb:
Of course it does, irrespective of whether the lunar year cycle is 354,
355,
383 or 385 days.
The biblical calendar is not a lunar calendar. Nor is it a solar
calendar. It is a luni-solar calendar. The festival of Passover must be
celebrated in the spring. Since there is a difference of about 11 days
between the lunar and solar calender every year, after a couple of
years, the festival of Passover would be celebrated in seasons that it
is not biblically ordained.
But what date was it in the western solar calendar of 365/366 days, my
guess is Wedesday 2 April 31 CE?
I do not know. But the Western solar calendar is irellevant because it
is a man-made calendar. The biblical calendar tells us clearly that the
Festival of Passover is on the 14th of Nissan. Every year.
Yishai ben Michael
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29 Mar 2005 04:34:07 AM |
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Qolon schrieb:
Apart from the implied association to New moons and Full moons, how is it
solar?
The seasons are solar determinations. Since Pesach must be in the
Spring, the calendar is not just lunar but luni-solar.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Qolon" |
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29 Mar 2005 04:43:11 AM |
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Again seasonal determinations are a result of synchronising with the vernal
equinox upon which 1 Nissan falls each 18th year.
Thus 5737 MOD 19 is the 18th year and 1 Nissan begins 20 March 1977, 19
years later 5756 is the 18th and 1 Nissan begins 21 March 1996.
Each of the seasons are therefore approximately 91 days apart: 4 x 91 = 364.
3 x 364 = 1092 = 2 x 354 lunar cycles + 30 days
- dolf
"Yishai ben Michael" <ybm@ch.arj> wrote in message
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Qolon schrieb:
Apart from the implied association to New moons and Full moons, how is it
solar?
The seasons are solar determinations. Since Pesach must be in the
Spring, the calendar is not just lunar but luni-solar.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Yishai ben Michael" |
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29 Mar 2005 04:49:23 AM |
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Qolon schrieb:
3 x 364 = 1092 = 2 x 354 lunar cycles + 30 days
And that's why there's a leap year with a 13th month every three years.
Now you've got it.
That's why the biblical festival of Pesach is on the 14th of Nissan.
Every year.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Qolon" |
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29 Mar 2005 05:25:33 AM |
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Except there was a typo...
3 x 364 = 1092 = 3 x 354 lunar cycles + 30 days
- dolf
"Yishai ben Michael" <ybm@ch.arj> wrote in message
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Qolon schrieb:
3 x 364 = 1092 = 3 x 354 lunar cycles + 30 days
And that's why there's a leap year with a 13th month every three years.
Now you've got it.
That's why the biblical festival of Pesach is on the 14th of Nissan.
Every year.
Yishai ben Michael
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29 Mar 2005 05:36:57 AM |
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Qolon schrieb:
Except there was a typo...
3 x 364 = 1092 = 3 x 354 lunar cycles + 30 days
Ich sah, aber man muss nicht ueber alle Fehler sprechen... :)
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Yishai ben Michael" |
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29 Mar 2005 02:44:19 AM |
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Qolon schrieb:
That one is again subject to SPAM as a result of participation and dialog in
religious discussion groups...
To prevent such things in the future, don't use your real e-mail address
in a message. If someone wants your real e-mail address, give it to them
in a coded fashion.
It may also help to stop using Microsoft Outlook Express and switch to
something like Mozilla Thunderbird.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Qolon" |
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29 Mar 2005 03:08:06 AM |
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I actually mung my email ddress, use my ISP's anti-SPAM and anti-Virus
filters, operate my Microsoft Outlook Express on a Virtual PC and use
Firewall protection provided by Apple's Macintosh OS X.
I like the robustness of that configuration.
- dolf
"Yishai ben Michael" <ybm@ch.arj> wrote in message
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Qolon schrieb:
That one is again subject to SPAM as a result of participation and dialog
in
religious discussion groups...
To prevent such things in the future, don't use your real e-mail address
in a message. If someone wants your real e-mail address, give it to them
in a coded fashion.
It may also help to stop using Microsoft Outlook Express and switch to
something like Mozilla Thunderbird.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Yishai ben Michael" |
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| Title: Re: -- Being subject to SPAM after participation in Passover dialogon religious newsgroups |
29 Mar 2005 03:20:59 AM |
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Qolon schrieb:
I actually mung my email ddress, use my ISP's anti-SPAM and anti-Virus
filters, operate my Microsoft Outlook Express on a Virtual PC and use
Firewall protection provided by Apple's Macintosh OS X.
I like the robustness of that configuration.
Except that it didn't work.
Yishai ben Michael
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| User: "Qolon" |
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29 Mar 2005 03:32:42 AM |
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That's the point, is was up until last week's dialog.
- dolf
"Yishai ben Michael" <ybm@ch.arj> wrote in message
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Qolon schrieb:
I actually mung my email ddress, use my ISP's anti-SPAM and anti-Virus
filters, operate my Microsoft Outlook Express on a Virtual PC and use
Firewall protection provided by Apple's Macintosh OS X.
I like the robustness of that configuration.
Except that it didn't work.
Yishai ben Michael
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