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"Trudie" |
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21 Aug 2007 11:23:39 AM |
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- 2 Peter 3:10-14 - |
- 2 Peter 3:10-14 -
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear
with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and
everything in it will be laid bare.
Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought
you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day
of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the
heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his
promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of
righteousness.
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So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every
effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.
The day of the Lord is the day of God's judgement on earth. Here it is used
in reference to Christ's return. Christ's second coming will be sudden and
terrible for those who do not believe in him. But if we are morally clean and
spiritually alert, it won't come as a surprise. Realizing that the earth is
going to be burned up, we should put our confidence in what is lasting and
eternal and not be bound to earth and its treasures or pursuits. Do you spend
more of your time piling up possessions, or striving to develop Christ-like
character?
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August 21st - St. Bernard Tolomeo
Founder of the congregation of the Blessed Virgin of Monte Oliveto; born at
Siena in Tuscany in 1272; died in 1348. He received at baptism the name of
Giovanni, but took that of Bernard out of admiration for the saintly Abbot of
Clairvaux. He was educated by his uncle, Christopher Tolorneo, a Dominican, and
desired to enter the religious life, but his father's opposition prevented it,
and he continued his studies in secular surroundings. After a course in
philosophy and mathematics lie devoted himself to the study of civil and canon
law, and of theology. For a time Bernard served in the armies of Rudolph of
Hapsburg. After his return to Siena he was appointed by his fellow citizens to
the highest positions in the town government. While thus occupied he was struck
with blindness. Having recovered his sight through the intervention of the
Blessed Virgin he retired (1313) to a solitary spot about ten miles from Siena,
where he led a life of the greatest austerity.
The fame of his virtues soon attracted many visitors, and Bernard was accused of
heresy. He went to Avignon and cleared himself of this charge before John XXII
without difficulty. Upon his return he founded the congregation of the Blessed
Virgin of Monte Oliveto, giving it the Rule of St. Benedict. The purpose of the
new religious institute was a special devotion to the Blessed Virgin. Guido,
Bishop of Arezzo, within whose diocese the congregation was formed, confirmed
its constitution, (1319), and many favours were granted by Popes John XXII,
Clement VI (1344), and Gregory XI. Upon the appearance of the plague in the
district of Arezzo, Bernard and his monks devoted themselves to the care of the
sick without any personal ill effects. After having ruled the religious body he
had founded for twenty-seven years Bernard died at the age of seventy-six. His
death was followed by many miracles and the congregation became a nursery of
saints. In 1634 the Congregation of Rites declared that the Blessed Bernard
Tolomeo was deserving of veneration among the saints. In the Roman Martyrology
he is commemorated on 21 August.
Saint Quote:
Humility, to be true, must be always accompanied by charity; that is, loving,
seeking, and accepting humiliations to please God, and to become more like Jesus
Christ; to do otherwise, would be to practice it in the manner of the heathen.
-St. France de Sales
Bible Quote
12 Now therefore saith the Lord: Be converted to me with all your heart, in
fasting, and in weeping, and in mourning. (Joel 2:12)
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Canticle Apocalypse 4,5
The song of the redeemed
You are worthy, our Lord and our God, to receive glory and honour and power;
for you made all things, and it is by your will that they existed and were
created.
You are worthy, Lord, to receive the book and open its seals,
for you were killed, and with your blood you have ransomed people from every
tribe and language and people and nation,
and made them rulers and priests for God; and they will rule over the earth.
The Lamb is worthy, who was killed, to receive power and riches and wisdom,
strength and honour, glory and blessing.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit,
as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be,
world without end.
Amen.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: - 2 Peter 3:10-14 - |
21 Aug 2007 06:27:03 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:23:39 -0500, "Trudie"
<trudie.Miller@cox.net> wrote:
- 2 Peter 3:10-14 -
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar; the
elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth
and everything in it will be laid bare.
And did!
we are looking forward to this
Not me. I don't look forward to what is
in the past. :)
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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| User: "®andy" |
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| Title: Re: - 2 Peter 3:10-14 - |
21 Aug 2007 07:15:12 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:27:03 -0400,
in article <o4tmc35r4a8dnevb1j5gnrocpk94ea041b@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:23:39 -0500, "Trudie"
<trudie.Miller@cox.net> wrote:
- 2 Peter 3:10-14 -
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar; the
elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth
and everything in it will be laid bare.
And did!
we are looking forward to this
Not me. I don't look forward to what is
in the past. :)
Peter is the one who says the heavens and earth will be
destroyed, down to the elemental level, and he gives us the
meaning right in the context of 2 Peter 3. The question,
then, is how Peter uses the terms in the context of 2 Peter 3.
It is the same heavens and earth of "creation" (3:4), that
were made by the word of the Lord (3:5), with the "earth
standing out of the water and in the water" (3:5b). This is
the heavens and earth God created in Genesis, and which Peter
is talking about. This is the earth that was previously
destroyed in the flood (3:6). And *_this_* is the "world"
which will be "burned up", and the elements of which
will be melted and "dissolved" (3:10-11).
Peter was not talking about a spiritual destruction of a
spiritual principle or element in 2 Peter 3, but directly
comparing the future destruction of the literal earth with one
that already occurred in the past.
Yeah, Dave's living in the New Heavens and earth, where there
is no more sin, sorrow, death, or abominations....<chuckle>
©2007 pulpitfire.net, pulpitfire.org, pulpitfire.com
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We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: - 2 Peter 3:10-14 - FICTION |
26 Aug 2007 05:39:42 PM |
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®andy wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:27:03 -0400,
in article <o4tmc35r4a8dnevb1j5gnrocpk94ea041b@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:23:39 -0500, "Trudie"
<trudie.Miller@cox.net> wrote:
- 2 Peter 3:10-14 -
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar; the
elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth
and everything in it will be laid bare.
And did!
we are looking forward to this
Not me. I don't look forward to what is
in the past. :)
Peter
===>Someone calling himself "Peter", pretending to be the
character from the Gospels.
is the one who says the heavens and earth will be
destroyed, down to the elemental level, and he gives us the
meaning right in the context of 2 Peter 3. The question,
then, is how Peter uses the terms in the context of 2 Peter 3.
It is the same heavens and earth of "creation" (3:4), that
were made by the word of the Lord (3:5), with the "earth
standing out of the water and in the water" (3:5b).
===>There never was such a "creation", so this is just as fictional
as the story it is based on.
This is
the heavens and earth God created in Genesis, and which Peter
is talking about.
===>Ancient cosmology:
the "world" (universe, cosmos) supposedly consisted of a flat
land covered with a star-studded solid dome sky above which the
Elohim stored their water and had their throne.
That was it.
No Solar System, no Galaxy, no galactic clusters, no
superclusters... just a bunch of little lights and two big lights
affioxed to the ceiling., like a kids bedroom.
This is the earth that was previously
destroyed in the flood (3:6).
===>A fairi tale.
And *_this_* is the "world"
which will be "burned up", and the elements of which
will be melted and "dissolved" (3:10-11).
===>A piece of fiction based on the fairy tale.
Peter was not talking about a spiritual destruction of a
spiritual principle or element in 2 Peter 3, but directly
comparing the future destruction of the literal earth with one
that already occurred in the past.
===>You've got that little bit of it right. -- L.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: - 2 Peter 3:10-14 - |
26 Aug 2007 05:31:38 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:23:39 -0500, "Trudie"
<trudie.Miller@cox.net> wrote:
- 2 Peter 3:10-14 -
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar; the
elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth
and everything in it will be laid bare.
And did!
===>HAR HAR,
very funny! -- L.
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