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Religions > Bible |
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"Ninure Saunders" |
| Date: |
10 Dec 2004 06:20:33 PM |
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:-( Dr. James Dobson and Gay Bashing ''101-201'' |
:-( Dr. James Dobson and Gay Bashing ''101-201''
December 02, 2004
By: David Palmer
Independent Media TV
First and foremost, it should be noted that I am not an advocate for or
against Gay people; however, I am an ardent and unapologetic believer that
every person is entitled to be treated equally and fairly regardless of
their ethnicity, race, religious beliefs, and/or sexual preference. To
assert and/or publicly opine that one is a true Christian when one engages
in name-calling and exhorting others to openly discriminate against
another person or group gives Christian hypocrisy a bad name.The recent
election results have surely taught us that Gay Bashing has turned into a
successful Olympian sport by so-called Christian moralists like Dr. James
Dobson and his cadre of enablers and opportunists.
Well-known Focus on the Family founder Dr. James Dobson has spent a great
deal of time, effort and money (none of which was his) in vilifying and
viciously attacking the gay community. Dobsons vehicle for spewing forth
his homophobic rant is aimed at amending the US Constitution to outlaw gay
marriages.
In October, Dobson spoke on behalf of Senatorial Candidate Tom Coburn of
Oklahoma at a rally at Oklahoma Christian University in support of a
constitutional ban on gay marriages. To prove that gay marriages led to
fewer men and women getting married, Dobson cited countries such as Norway
that have allowed same-sex couples to marry.
Dobson said 80 percent of children are born out of wedlock in Norway.
Homosexuals are not monogamous. They want to destroy the institution of
marriage. It will destroy marriage. It will destroy the Earth, Dobson
said. (The Oklahoman, 10-23-03)
Not to be outdone by his mentor and political supporter, Tom Coburn told
Rogers County Republicans last year, The gay community has infiltrated the
very centers of power in every area across this country, and they wield
extreme power That agenda is the greatest
threat to our freedom that we face today. Why do you think we see the
rationalization for abortion and multiple sexual partners? Thats a gay
agenda.
Lord have mercy, if these statements are true, and who would question the
veracity of Christian stalwarts like Dobson and Coburn, then we (thats us
so-called straight God-fearing folks) should be truly concerned about the
power (Is that extreme power Mr. Coburn? Is there another kind, said Jack
Nicholson, Im sorry, I mean Coburn) of the gay community that will (a)
destroy marriages, (b) destroy the earth (whew, and I was worried about
global warming), and (c) the greatest threat to our freedom (I guess so,
now that Saddams been captured).
Oklahomans are lucky to have voted for a visionary (soothsayer) like
Senator Tom Coburn who was able to perceive that abortion is a gay agenda.
Whew, Dr. Tom must be blessed with ESPN, dont ya think? I dont know about
you, but I find it laughable at best to claim that abortion is a gay
issue. Ever heard of a gay couple seeking an abortion or lamenting over an
unwanted pregnancy? Now, I dont mean to disparage Dr. Tom if ya know what
I mean. After all, hes a gynecologist and Im not; however Dr. Tom should
stop buying recreational drugs from street vendors in Tulsa who accept
double off coupons.
In 1998, Dr. Dobson gave a speech wherein he stated, You dont have to be
taught that its wrong to steal and to lie and to extort and to bribe and
to oppress the poor and to express racial hatred and to be promiscuous,
both homosexually and heterosexually. Theres no
difference between those two. Promiscuity it immoral, as is adultery. That
law is eternal and it is written on the heart of man.
It sees as though Dr. Dobson finds it convenient to tell lies while
bashing the gay community. Dobsons statement that 80 percent of children
in Norway are born out of wedlock is false and a total fabrication.
According to Statistics Norway (government entity), which can be found at
http://www.ssb.no/www-open/english/ the rate in 2003 was 50.5%, which isnt
anywhere near 80%. I suppose this Christian lie is acceptable when bashing
gays, right Dr. Jim?
Dr. Dobsons fabrication in disabusing Norwegians to promote his gay
bashing by claiming that gay marriages will destroy the earth, our moral
fiber (values) and lead to destruction of marriage is not only absurd it
is patently false. Put simply, Dr. Jim found Norwegians to be an
acceptable target by claiming their liberal views on same sex marriage led
to runaway abortions, out of wedlock marriages and destruction of
marriages (divorces) and that America would face the same damnable fate if
it failed to abide by his Christian values in bashing gays.
Well, Im here to tell ya that Dr. Jim is a damn liar! The real truth
according to US and Norwegian government statistics as to abortions,
divorces and children born out of wedlock are as follows.
- 2000Norway had 14,655 abortionspopulation 4.5 million
- Alabama had 13,830 abortionspopulation 4.4 million
- Tennessee had 19,010 abortionspopulation 5.7 million
- North Carolina had 37,610 abortionspopulation 8.0 million
- 2001-03Norway had 31,515 divorcespopulation 4.5 million
- Arkansas had 50,109 divorcespopulation 2.7 million
- Arizona had 71,206 divorcespopulation 2.7 million
- Alabama had 68,333 divorcespopulation 4.4 million
- Kentucky had 62,998 divorcespopulation 4.0 million
- Tennessee had 90,685 divorcespopulation 5.7 million
- 2001Norway had 28,515 out-of-wedlock birthpopulation 4.5 million -
Arizona had 33,475 out-of-wedlock birthspopulation 2.7 million
- Louisiana had 30,980 out-of-wedlock birthspopulation 4.5 million Source:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr52_22_t3.pdf
The factual statistics above prove beyond all doubt that Dr. Jim and his
cadre of enablers and False Profits like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson,
Robert Land and Senator Coburn and their ilk find it both acceptable to
spew forth total fabrications in their lust and zeal to paint themselves
as moral Christian-Value crusaders that are servants and spokesmen for
Christ.
When openly discriminating against African Americans (albeit it in a
Christian way) no longer guaranteed political power and financial success,
these vile men set out to find a new minority to target, which was and is
the gay community. They then manipulated their flocks by spewing forth
hateful and discriminatory claims under the guise that they were the
guardians of Christianity.
Senator Coburns statement that the gay community has infiltrated the very
centers of power in every area across this country, and that they wield
extreme power is pure hyperbole (bs). I dont consider the local hair salon
to be a center of power, do you? Of course the real
centers of power are located in places like the Whitehouse or statehouse
in Sacramento. Other than a few girly-men running amuck in Sacramento, Im
not aware of any gay power brokers operating there or in DC, are you?
The sad truth is that these kinds of zealots and ideologues are willing to
do/say anything to obtain power and/or enrich themselves at the expense of
those they falsely claim to represent. Setting into motion an agenda
(scheme) to dupe their flocks in believing that minority gays deserve to
be ostracized, humiliated and discriminated against for the betterment of
the country and in the name of Christ is appalling.
Who will these purveyors of hate target for the 2008 election? What group
among us will they claim threatens our freedom? Will it be your group? Or
will it be my mine? How many more lies and fabrications will they be
willing to foist upon us in the name of Jesus?
Finally, we all have an inalienable right to disagree with anyones
lifestyle; however, none of us has a right to impose our so-called values
on our fellow brothers and sisters no matter how righteous we believe our
cause to be.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: :-( Dr. James Dobson and Gay Bashing ''101-201'' |
11 Dec 2004 05:30:49 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:20:33 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest,
(Ninure Saunders) pontificated:
:-( Dr. James Dobson and Gay Bashing ''101-201''
December 02, 2004
By: David Palmer
Independent Media TV
First and foremost, it should be noted that I am not an advocate for or
against Gay people; however, I am an ardent and unapologetic believer
that
every person is entitled to be treated equally and fairly regardless of
their ethnicity, race, religious beliefs, and/or sexual preference. To
assert and/or publicly opine that one is a true Christian when one
engages
in name-calling and exhorting others to openly discriminate against
another person or group gives Christian hypocrisy a bad name.The recent
election results have surely taught us that Gay Bashing has turned into
a
successful Olympian sport by so-called Christian moralists like Dr.
James
Dobson and his cadre of enablers and opportunists.
Well-known Focus on the Family founder Dr. James Dobson has spent a
great
deal of time, effort and money (none of which was his) in vilifying and
viciously attacking the gay community. Dobsons vehicle for spewing
forth
his homophobic rant is aimed at amending the US Constitution to outlaw
gay
marriages.
In October, Dobson spoke on behalf of Senatorial Candidate Tom Coburn of
Oklahoma at a rally at Oklahoma Christian University in support of a
constitutional ban on gay marriages. To prove that gay marriages led to
fewer men and women getting married, Dobson cited countries such as
Norway
that have allowed same-sex couples to marry.
Dobson said 80 percent of children are born out of wedlock in Norway.
Homosexuals are not monogamous. They want to destroy the institution of
marriage. It will destroy marriage. It will destroy the Earth, Dobson
said. (The Oklahoman, 10-23-03)
You forgot to tell everybody that I am always right.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: :-( Dr. James Dobson and Gay Bashing ''101-201'' |
11 Dec 2004 12:32:50 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:20:33 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest,
(Ninure Saunders) pontificated:
:-( Dr. James Dobson and Gay Bashing ''101-201''
December 02, 2004
By: David Palmer
Independent Media TV
First and foremost, it should be noted that I am not an advocate for or
against Gay people; however, I am an ardent and unapologetic believer that
every person is entitled to be treated equally and fairly regardless of
their ethnicity, race, religious beliefs, and/or sexual preference. To
assert and/or publicly opine that one is a true Christian when one engages
in name-calling and exhorting others to openly discriminate against
another person or group gives Christian hypocrisy a bad name.The recent
election results have surely taught us that Gay Bashing has turned into a
successful Olympian sport by so-called Christian moralists like Dr. James
Dobson and his cadre of enablers and opportunists.
Well-known Focus on the Family founder Dr. James Dobson has spent a great
deal of time, effort and money (none of which was his) in vilifying and
viciously attacking the gay community. Dobsons vehicle for spewing forth
his homophobic rant is aimed at amending the US Constitution to outlaw gay
marriages.
In October, Dobson spoke on behalf of Senatorial Candidate Tom Coburn of
Oklahoma at a rally at Oklahoma Christian University in support of a
constitutional ban on gay marriages. To prove that gay marriages led to
fewer men and women getting married, Dobson cited countries such as Norway
that have allowed same-sex couples to marry.
Dobson said 80 percent of children are born out of wedlock in Norway.
Homosexuals are not monogamous. They want to destroy the institution of
marriage. It will destroy marriage. It will destroy the Earth, Dobson
said. (The Oklahoman, 10-23-03)
You forgot to tell everybody that he's right.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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