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User: ""
Date: 28 Jun 2005 09:42:20 PM
Object: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @
YAHWEH = i77i77 or 77 77 as the Hebrew tetragrammaton resmbles four
times 7 4x7 = 28
YAH is another shortened form of God's name: 77 - Psalm 68.4
YHWH based on Psalm 119 which has 22-letter Hebrew alphabet
Y-10th letter , H-5th letter, W-6th letter , H-5th letter
10 + 5 + 6 + 5 = 26
10 x 5 x 6 x 5 = 1500
The extra 5-year period* can be added to 1500 to make it 1505.
*It is biblically based period.
4002 BC - 5 years - 3997 BC = 5 years The age is linked to the weaning
from mother's breast like in case of Isaac .
The children up to 5 years are exempt from responsibility for sins.
3997 BC + 1505 years = 2492 BC- Times of Noah
2492 BC + 120 years = 2372 BC - Genesis 6.3
2492 BC + 7 Times = 2520 years = 29 AD
29 AD + 7 years = 36 AD
2492 BC + "7 weeks" or 2520 years + 7 years = 36 AD
1513 BC- Yahweh frees Israel from slavery in Egypt. The first book of
the Bible is given.
1512 BC- The place for true worship set-up- tabernaculum
1513 BC + 1505 years = 8 BC
1512 BC + 1505 years = 7 BC
8 BC + 77 years = 70 AD
70 AD + 26 years = 96 AD
70 AD + 28 years = 98 AD
The Bible was completed in 98 AD !
The last book ,however , the Book of Revelation is from 96 AD.
28 = 26
70 AD - The finalization of the destruction of the Old Testament Jewish
temple- the end of the age or can be called the end lf the Old
Testament world.
8 BC = 1878 AD 7 BC = 1879 AD 3 BC = 1883 AD 2 BC = 1884 AD
8 BC - 3 BC = 7 BC - 2 BC = 5 years
1878 AD - 1883 AD = 1879 AD - 1884 AD = 5 years
TO GOD OF THE BIBLE - THE ONLY TRUE GOD POWER AND WISDOM THROUGH HIS
ADOPTED FIRST SPIRITUAL SON YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH FOREVERMORE ! AMEN .
.

User: "Cracklin"

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ 28 Jun 2005 11:32:41 PM
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1120012940.577549.194930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

YAHWEH = i77i77 or 77 77 as the Hebrew tetragrammaton resmbles four
times 7 4x7 = 28
YAH is another shortened form of God's name: 77 - Psalm 68.4

===================
Do you also read palms, crystal balls and tea leaves?
--
CR.........
The JWs keep saying it (Armageddon) is imminent, just a matter of time,
only a matter of weeks or months from the predicted date: 1874(+40),
1878(+40), 1910,
1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1922, 1925, 1940, 1945, 1975, 1999/2000...
LATEST DATE: 2034 Come get your predictions and palm read by the GB!
Just one WRONG date after another - they're truly inspired by *GASP* demons!
"If he is a false prophet (like the GB), his prophecy will fail to come to
pass."
(Watchtower, 5/15/30).
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
.
User: ""

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ 29 Jun 2005 09:23:24 PM
Do you also read palms, crystal balls and tea leaves?
--
What I am presenting has no relation with palm reading, crystal balls
and tea leaves.
Concerning the dates i don't see the year 1942 as I read that was the
year Jehovah's Witnesses expected the end.
The dates that can qualify Jehovah's Witnesses to call them the true
religion are : 1942 and 1975
.
User: "Cracklin"

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ 30 Jun 2005 12:08:07 AM
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1120098204.041733.10980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Do you also read palms, crystal balls and tea leaves?
--
What I am presenting has no relation with palm reading, crystal balls
and tea leaves.

# Numerology is little different then tea leaves and crystal ball reading.

Concerning the dates i don't see the year 1942 as I read that was the
year Jehovah's Witnesses expected the end.

# They WRONGLY expected and predicted the end many, many times - they were
always 100% WRONG. That tells us they're the false prophets the bible
warned us all about.

The dates that can qualify Jehovah's Witnesses to call them the true
religion are : 1942 and 1975

# You mean all the religions and cults who were 100% WRONG in their
predictions are the true religions? All of them? You can't pick "just one"
since more than one made the same type of 100% WRONG predictions as you
know.
--
CR........
The JWs keep saying it (Armageddon) is imminent, just a matter of time,
only a matter of weeks or months from the predicted date: 1874(+40),
1878(+40), 1910,
1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1922, 1925, 1940, 1945, 1975, 1999/2000...
LATEST DATE: 2034 Come get your predictions and palm read by the GB!
Just one WRONG date after another - they're truly inspired by *GASP* demons!
"If he is a false prophet (like the GB), his prophecy will fail to come to
pass."
(Watchtower, 5/15/30).
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
.

User: "Fred Hall"

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ 29 Jun 2005 09:28:38 PM
On 29 Jun 2005 19:23:24 -0700, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:

What I am presenting has no relation with palm reading, crystal balls
and tea leaves.

Only in your demented mind, Marion.



Concerning the dates i don't see the year 1942 as I read that was the
year Jehovah's Witnesses expected the end.
The dates that can qualify Jehovah's Witnesses to call them the true
religion are : 1942 and 1975

Oh, yes, I remember now, the end came in 1942. Er, or was it 1975?
Must not have been very dramatic, and I think most of the world missed
it.
Fraud.
.
User: "Cracklin"

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ 29 Jun 2005 11:36:30 PM
"Fred Hall" <fkhall@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d9vlbb$9q3$1@dimpledchad.databasix.com...

On 29 Jun 2005 19:23:24 -0700, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:

What I am presenting has no relation with palm reading, crystal balls
and tea leaves.


Only in your demented mind, Marion.



Concerning the dates i don't see the year 1942 as I read that was the
year Jehovah's Witnesses expected the end.
The dates that can qualify Jehovah's Witnesses to call them the true
religion are : 1942 and 1975


Oh, yes, I remember now, the end came in 1942. Er, or was it 1975?
Must not have been very dramatic, and I think most of the world missed
it.

Fraud.

==================================
OBVES has claimed they're the true religion because of all the dates they
got wrong. He makes no sense. How can predicting so many wrong dates prove
anything other than that they're the FALSE PROPHETS we were all warned
about?
CR..........
The JWs keep saying it (Armageddon) is imminent, just a matter of time,
only a matter of weeks or months from the predicted date: 1874(+40),
1878(+40), 1910,
1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1922, 1925, 1940, 1945, 1975, 1999/2000...
LATEST DATE: 2034 Come get your predictions and palm read by the GB!
Just one WRONG date after another - they're truly inspired by *GASP* demons!
"If he is a false prophet (like the GB), his prophecy will fail to come to
pass."
(Watchtower, 5/15/30).
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
.
User: "Fred Hall"

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ 29 Jun 2005 11:47:07 PM
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:36:30 -0500, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:


"Fred Hall" <fkhall@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d9vlbb$9q3$1@dimpledchad.databasix.com...

On 29 Jun 2005 19:23:24 -0700, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:

What I am presenting has no relation with palm reading, crystal balls
and tea leaves.


Only in your demented mind, Marion.



Concerning the dates i don't see the year 1942 as I read that was the
year Jehovah's Witnesses expected the end.
The dates that can qualify Jehovah's Witnesses to call them the true
religion are : 1942 and 1975


Oh, yes, I remember now, the end came in 1942. Er, or was it 1975?
Must not have been very dramatic, and I think most of the world missed
it.

Fraud.

==================================
OBVES has claimed they're the true religion because of all the dates they
got wrong. He makes no sense. How can predicting so many wrong dates prove
anything other than that they're the FALSE PROPHETS we were all warned
about?

Poor pitiful Marion reminds me of a character in Mr. Barrie's
fantasies.


CR..........
The JWs keep saying it (Armageddon) is imminent, just a matter of time,
only a matter of weeks or months from the predicted date: 1874(+40),
1878(+40), 1910,
1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1922, 1925, 1940, 1945, 1975, 1999/2000...
LATEST DATE: 2034 Come get your predictions and palm read by the GB!
Just one WRONG date after another - they're truly inspired by *GASP* demons!
"If he is a false prophet (like the GB), his prophecy will fail to come to
pass."
(Watchtower, 5/15/30).
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

.




User: ""

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ 29 Jun 2005 09:25:49 PM
The dates that point to the International Bible Students as true
chistians are:
1878 ,1879,1884 and 1914
.
User: "Fred Hall"

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ 29 Jun 2005 09:36:10 PM
On 29 Jun 2005 19:25:49 -0700, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:

The dates that point to the International Bible Students as true
chistians are:
1878 ,1879,1884 and 1914

Which is it, Marion? Do the jw's have the truth, or is it the IBS who
have the truth?
You are a complete fraud.
.



User: "nobody special"

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ NOT! 29 Jun 2005 12:57:31 AM
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message news:1120012940.577549.194930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

YAHWEH = i77i77 or 77 77 as the Hebrew tetragrammaton resmbles four
times 7 4x7 = 28

=============================
You need to explain this so-called
resemblance and where you found
this great wisdom.
4x7 = 28 and 2X8 = 16 and 6x1 = 6:
So what?
nobody special
=============================

YAH is another shortened form of God's name: 77 - Psalm 68.4

=============================
So what?
nobody special
=============================


YHWH based on Psalm 119 which has 22-letter Hebrew alphabet

=============================
YHWH has nothing to do with Ps199
nobody special
=============================
5 = 1500

The extra 5-year period* can be added to 1500 to make it 1505.

----------->and if you add 22 it makes 1522.
so what?

*It is biblically based period.

-----------> Says who? So what?


4002 BC - 5 years - 3997 BC = 5 years The age is linked to the weaning
from mother's breast like in case of Isaac .

=============================
Who told you this? Most children are
weaned well before 5 yrs.
nobody special
=============================

The children up to 5 years are exempt from responsibility for sins.

=============================
Where did you find this? The age of
accountability for Hebrew boys is
age 13. For girls, age 12.
nobody special
=============================


3997 BC + 1505 years = 2492 BC- Times of Noah
2492 BC + 120 years = 2372 BC - Genesis 6.3
2492 BC + 7 Times = 2520 years = 29 AD
29 AD + 7 years = 36 AD
2492 BC + "7 weeks" or 2520 years + 7 years = 36 AD

============================
Again, so what?
nobody special
============================

1513 BC- Yahweh frees Israel from slavery in Egypt. The first book of
the Bible is given.

============================
Where did you get this date?
The 1st book of the Bible is Job.
Moses wrote the Torah during the
40yrs wandering in the desert. You
have absolutely no way to set dates
for his books.
nobody special
============================

1512 BC- The place for true worship set-up- tabernaculum


1513 BC + 1505 years = 8 BC
1512 BC + 1505 years = 7 BC
8 BC + 77 years = 70 AD<-----------------------

============================
This needs checking. Did you include
a '0AD'? Shouldn't have.
nobody special
============================


70 AD + 26 years = 96 AD
70 AD + 28 years = 98 AD

============================
And 70 = 7+0 = 7.
And 96 = 9+6 = 15 = 5 + 1 = 6
So what?

nobody special
============================

The Bible was completed in 98 AD !

Scholars set a date of around 90AD so
you may be close but where did you
get this special revelation?
nobody special
============================

The last book ,however , the Book of Revelation is from 96 AD.

------------------>Says who? You said above that
the Bible was finished in 98AD.
Now you say 96AD.

28 = 26

------------------> It never did and never will.
Who told you this?

70 AD - The finalization of the destruction of the Old Testament Jewish
temple- the end of the age or can be called the end lf the Old
Testament world.

8 BC = 1878 AD 7 BC = 1879 AD 3 BC = 1883 AD 2 BC = 1884 AD
8 BC - 3 BC = 7 BC - 2 BC = 5 years
1878 AD - 1883 AD = 1879 AD - 1884 AD = 5 years

------------------>Strange math.


TO GOD OF THE BIBLE - THE ONLY TRUE GOD POWER AND WISDOM THROUGH HIS
ADOPTED FIRST SPIRITUAL SON YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH FOREVERMORE ! AMEN .

===============================
The name of the Messiah is 'Yeshua'. Please
show me in haTanach where it is 'YAHshua'.
He is NOT adopted. This is heresy. Yeshua
was with the Father in the beginning, before
the world was made. He is the only BEGOTTEN
Son of the Father, referring to His birth in
this world through the action of the Spirit of G_d
on Mary, His Earthly Mother.
It would be better for you if you threw away
your calculator and studied your Bible.
nobody special
===============================
.
User: ""

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ NOT! 29 Jun 2005 09:51:36 PM
The Herbrew letters are consonants and the way the whole words are
read or found how they should be pronounced not always is difficult.
I come from Poland and that method of reading consonants can be very
well explained using the Polish language and the Hebrew evidently may
have the same application.
If I write numerous words omittimg vowels I may be able to decode all
words. .
So now if I see the letters YHWH in the Hebrew I can try to utter them
and what words I can get by doing so ?
YAHWEH,YAHWAH,YEHOWAH-all are similar in sounding.
Because we know the very old word in use "HalleluYAH "
the best word to use will be " YAHWEH " as it has that short form "YAH
" in it .
Jehovah's Witnesses that one of the mentioned names above are true
religion . They can use the word Yeshua if they want .
The dates 1513 BC and 1512 BC are not my making but I have found them
in Jehovah's Witnesses' literature.
So , we have an independent source here . By using my methods of
calculations that are or were at least unkown to them I was able to
confirm their numerous dates and that I consider as if a miracle from
God..This also confirms that they must be the true religion.
.
User: "Cracklin"

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ NOT! 29 Jun 2005 11:38:40 PM
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1120099896.628672.24040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

The dates 1513 BC and 1512 BC are not my making but I have found them
in Jehovah's Witnesses' literature.
So , we have an independent source here . By using my methods of
calculations that are or were at least unkown to them I was able to
confirm their numerous dates and that I consider as if a miracle from
God..This also confirms that they must be the true religion.

===================================
It's a miracle from god that they came up with so many wrong dates and
failed predictions?????
--
CR.....
The JWs keep saying it (Armageddon) is imminent, just a matter of time,
only a matter of weeks or months from the predicted date: 1874(+40),
1878(+40), 1910,
1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1922, 1925, 1940, 1945, 1975, 1999/2000...
LATEST DATE: 2034 Come get your predictions and palm read by the GB!
Just one WRONG date after another - they're truly inspired by *GASP* demons!
"If he is a false prophet (like the GB), his prophecy will fail to come to
pass."
(Watchtower, 5/15/30).
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
.

User: "nobody special"

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ NOT! 30 Jun 2005 12:02:43 AM
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message news:1120099896.628672.24040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

The Herbrew letters are consonants and the way the whole words are
read or found how they should be pronounced not always is difficult.
I come from Poland and that method of reading consonants can be very
well explained using the Polish language and the Hebrew evidently may
have the same application.

If I write numerous words omittimg vowels I may be able to decode all
words. .

So now if I see the letters YHWH in the Hebrew I can try to utter them
and what words I can get by doing so ?

YAHWEH,YAHWAH,YEHOWAH-all are similar in sounding.
Because we know the very old word in use "HalleluYAH "
the best word to use will be " YAHWEH " as it has that short form "YAH
" in it .


Jehovah's Witnesses that one of the mentioned names above are true
religion . They can use the word Yeshua if they want .


The dates 1513 BC and 1512 BC are not my making but I have found them
in Jehovah's Witnesses' literature.
So , we have an independent source here . By using my methods of
calculations that are or were at least unkown to them I was able to
confirm their numerous dates and that I consider as if a miracle from
God..
This also confirms that they must be the true religion.<-------------

===============================
I'm sorry to hear that. Do you know that the
JW say that it is important to know and use
G_d's name which they claim is Jehovah?
They then published their own Bible in
which they inserted Jehovah in place of
other names of G_d found in the Hebrew
text. This bible has no standing among
any other Christians since it is obviously
a translation concocted to try to support
JW's doctrine. I too think it is important
to know the proper names of my G_d
and my savior, Yeshua. Scripture says
if we call upon the name of the Lord, we
shall be saved.
You should get yourself a copy of the
Aortic Hebrew scripture which
does contain the vowels. The language
is easier to read (with a dictionary at hand)
than it is to speak. I'd be lost without mine.
I have several versions including the Stone
Edition which is a modern Jewish version.
There is little doubt that G_d's name is
Yahweh. The Name is part of the conju-
gation of the verb 'to be'. Remember
Moses at the burning bush? G_d said
His name was 'Ehyeh asher Ehyeh'.
This means 'I will be what I will be'.
Ehyeh is also part of the same root
from which Yahweh is derived. In Hebrew,
this 'to be' is defective as it contains
a name of G_d, not to be used in common
speech so to say 'I am' one must say 'ani'
which means 'I'. This is one thing that made
the Temple Jews want to stone Yeshua in
that He answered some of their questions
with 'I am' which was a claim to Godhead.
The form 'YAH" is found in many Hebrew names.
For instance, Elijah in Heb. is 'Eliyahu' (My God
is Yah). Jeremiah is 'Yirmeyahu'.
The numerology that I commented on in the
previous post is not useful just because JW
says so. I found nothing of meaning in all that
addition and subtraction. I believe that there
is something inticing about it that has the
smell of some spirit other than that of our Lord.
All this IMHO
b'Shem Yeshua
nobody special
==================================
.



User: ""

Title: Re: @ GOD'S NAME HIDES AMAZING TRUTHS @ 28 Jun 2005 09:46:58 PM
YAH = 77 or 13
as 7777 becomes 77
and 26 becomes 13
77 + 13 = 90
1914 + 90 years = 2004
.


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