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This is one of the most fascinating news for those men who love God
and like sex very much . I myself can't imagine happiness in the
Paradise without sex ! Hold on ! We don't have to go into much details
as God Yahweh Himself knows this matter the best way .
Adam had so many material things at his disposal and yet God the
Creator stated :
It is not good for man to be alone !
This gives us the best assurance that we men were created to have a
wife in our lives and God Yahweh guarantees that to be the truth.
I am a servant of God Yahweh and single without a wife and yet I know
Psalm 128 and God Yahweh cannot lie ! There cannot be contradictions
in Holy Writings as well .
So I have to use common sense while studying the Bible and Matthew
22.30 which so many twist by taking Jesus' words literally as they
take Matthew 24.35-36 literally must be interpreted in accord with
Isaiah 28.9-10 : here a little and there a little and we combine
things to arrive at the right conclusion.
Not long ago this day I saw on the internet a very beautiful woman
on add . She was so beautiful from what I saw that I was astounded and
praised God Yahweh and I know God knows I like that woman. I I saw
already very beautiful breasts and legs in the past and God Yahweh ,as
a Creator of all women, can repeat the same and create the same
looking woman in the Paradise with the breasts and legs I like so much
and give her to me ! This realization is for any true christian as
well . There will be marriages in the Paradise and so the sex life.
Once you realize God Yahweh is Love and Power and you understand what
is time all its aspects : the past ,present and the future you can
begin to stop thinking about sex completely just to wait it out untill
God's Kingdom comes . You will not buy a porno movie to watch or pay a
prostitute or masturbate ,knowing what lies ahead for you if you hold
a hope of everlasting life and that you will enjoy sex in the best way
in the Paradise.
Since I am predicting the coming of God's Kingdom in 2011 AD there is
a good reason to forget about sex " for a moment " and concentrate on
gaining good knowledge of the Bible as presented by God's true
servants that live now on the earth who use the Bible as the best book
in the world.
I just want a wife in the Paradise at least like that woman I have
seen today and was amazed . I can do with such a woman for all the
eternity ,knowing she will be always young and sexy according to my
liking. I can have very little in my life and wait 1000 years to have
such woman and I promise I will never complain about sex and life .
I know that right at the time I was looking at that woman on the
internet I could forget all my past life and how many years I lived
doesn't count if we are absorbed in the present moment reading
something or doing something else .What counts is what I feel ,see and
do and this very moment ! And I know that this moment will become a
thing of the past when the next moment kicks and I have to fill up
that new moment of my life .
So, when January 19,3008 AD comes at that time what I feel ,do will
count .not my past life ! The same way I can feel now about my past !
No age counts whether I lived 20 or 50 years ! It counts what I feel
now . You can dwell on the past but it is the past and you cannot
change the past as it recorded irrevesably in our time so what counts
is what is now and in the future.
You will think about sex life how good it was but it will be an empty
exeprience and you may end up your past good sex with masturbating !
And that masturbating will be now your greater pleasure than the past
real sex !
But as for me I can think about what I am going to have in the
Paradise and I can have better feelings than you as I wait for
something that is going to happen really . I am better to do that than
to think about my past good sex .It was very good as the pleasure is
concerned but it is gone and I can live without thinking about that as
thinking alone will not replace the real sex.
What I am driving at is that the true hope of eternal life surpasses
all we did and can do now !
The hope of the super duper sex surpasses all material things we can
have now.
I don't want Bill Gates' 50 billion of dollars now as they will not
buy me happiness I want just to wait for dream wife in the future if
it takes 1000 years I can go on .But there is a 2011 AD prediction
ahead me and I should hold on pretty well till that time arrives.
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User: "Lars Wilson"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 04:11:56 AM

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Not long ago this day I saw on the internet a very beautiful woman
on add . She was so beautiful from what I saw that I was astounded and
praised God Yahweh and I know God knows I like that woman. I I saw
already very beautiful breasts and legs in the past and God Yahweh ,as
a Creator of all women, can repeat the same and create the same
looking woman in the Paradise with the breasts and legs I like so much
and give her to me ! This realization is for any true christian as
well . There will be marriages in the Paradise and so the sex life.

HI OBVES. Speaking of Adam and Eve. You know this is one of my challenges
to the WTS chronology!!
1975 was based on 6000 years of man's existence from the time Adam was
created, or more precisely, from the time Eve was created and the 6th
Creative Day ended. But they only give Adam one year to name all the
animals and do whatever he was to do before Eve is suddenly created and the
end of the 6th Creative Day. But is that logical?
Adam was an emotional, chronological and psychological one-year old. Even
under normal circumstances people don't marry until they become an "adult".
When Adam saw Eve he said: "AT LAST...bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh."
Would he say that after a year? Doubtful.
Would he say that after 30 years? Absolutely.
I also heard he said: "Stand back, Eve, because I don't know how big this
thing is going to get!" but that's not in the Bible and not confirmed. But
anyway.....
Lots of things happen at around 30. Jesus didn't become the messiah and
thus not the exchange for Adam until 30. So if in fact, Even wasn't
created until after 30, then that would make a difference in the chronology.
I have a chronology timeline that also points close to 2011 AD as a
significant cutoff time for the millennium, using a different chronology
system, a more precise one, historically speaking, but it includes that
30-year period for Adam to have been alone, developed his own personality
and been alone long enough to appreciate a wife. He would have been
emotionally and mentally mature enough to handle that responsibility.
Of course, there was the background drama going on as well. Jesus fell in
love with Adam/mankind as well during this time. Satan, got jealous. Satan
was technically Jesus' "wife" in heaven. That's why Satan is called the
"woman". That is, the fight between Michael and his Seed, and the original
serpent and his seed, as fought in heaven, is the comparison at Genesis 3:15
when it pits the "woman and her seed" (meaning Satan, Jesus' wife and her
followers) vs Jesus and his followers.
Thus when Jehovah said: "I will put enmity between YOU and the
woman(Satan)..." He was talking to Jesus/Michael. When he said: "He will
bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel" he was talking
to Satan/the Woman.
Jesus and Satan as husband and wife or man and woman are depicted as the two
covering cherubs over the Ark, representing Holy Mount Zion. So in effect,
Michael's own "wife" rebelled against him.
Angels are androgynous, technically, but Satan might have also been jealous
that now Michael, Jesus was so infatuated now with humankind. Satan, the
most glorious angelic creation in all of heaven couldn't handle that or deal
with it. Humans were like low-class animals to her. So that might be part
of what pushed Satan over the edge. Seeing Christ betray her in some way by
his infatuation with Adam and mankind.
But in the end, seeing Christ so hopelessly in love with mankind, God made
it so that his next wife (after the divorce from Satan) was from the
earth!!! Christ doesn't marry another angel, but a complex marriage with
1,440,000 of mankind! (Note that the 144,000 are all natural Jews, making
up the "root" of the olive tree, but only 10% (Isa 6:13)).
So Christ gets what he wanted. A marriage with mankind. Of course, those
he does marry from the earth are transformed to angels so, technically, in
the end, Christ's new wife will be "angelic" in more ways than one, right?
But listen! It sort of doesn't matter HOW you get the right date of 2011
BCE. Even if your chronology is wrong, or mine, we are still FOCUSSED
right?
So I'm looking forward to 2011 AD as well!!! That's just 3 years from now!
SPECULATION: I wonder if this coming US election isn't going to trigger
something? A woman and black man? Not very traditional. But the UN is
supposed to destroy Babylon the Great, the Illuminati and the WTS (sorry),
after God causes the UN to hate and expose the harlot. So definitely the
political climate will become anti-Illuminati, meaning anti-international
banking, anti-World Bank, if you get my drift....
Lars Wilson
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User: "jabriol"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 02:38:48 PM

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HI OBVES. Speaking of Adam and Eve. You know this is one of my
challenges to the WTS chronology!!

The Culability of Jehovah's Witnesses and Pedophilia 19-Jan-08 20:22
The irony is their indoctrination may well precipitate such deviance as
will any indoctrination which endeavours to completely establish
prohibition respecting natural human behaviour rather than educating
them to explore and understand it in healthy contexts. Where you find
one you will find the other! And so unless they completely overhaul
their doctrine they will perpetuate similar traits in human behaviour!
IMHO
It is a catch 22 for them and their followers!
The sexually restrictive environment of not encouraging or
aiding individuals to explore their own humanity (sexuality) ,save the
ones 'game' enough to break JW rules, is likely to posit the most law
abiding individuals into conflicts with their own human biology which
could well result in opportunism or gradual moral decline and taking
advantage of situations easiest concealed.
The whole notion of no sexual activity or self relief before marriage in
a society which liberates many of its youth is in itself likely to
isolate individuals from their own peer group in this regard and
precipitate the socially dysfunctional characters into adulthood void of
the necessary skills to socialise and seduce females they may find
attractive. Again high levels of sexual repression may result and unduly
negate an otherwise ideallly apparent religious individuals character
into one which is at conflict with itself in every aspect of its
psychology as to how to find and successfully court a suitable mate!"
It is a catch 22 for them and their followers!

1975 was based on 6000 years of man's existence from the time Adam was
created, or more precisely, from the time Eve was created and the 6th
Creative Day ended. But they only give Adam one year to name all the
animals and do whatever he was to do before Eve is suddenly created and
the end of the 6th Creative Day. But is that logical?

Adam was an emotional, chronological and psychological one-year old. Even
under normal circumstances people don't marry until they become an
"adult".

Lars Wilson

User: "Precision"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	19 Jan 2008 06:23:55 PM

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I don't want Bill Gates' 50 billion of dollars now as they will not
buy me happiness I want just to wait for dream wife in the future if
it takes 1000 years I can go on .But there is a 2011 AD prediction
ahead me and I should hold on pretty well till that time arrives.

You're right that $50 billion dollars will not even make a down payment on
immortality in a global paradise that will make Beverly Hills look like a
third world slum...
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Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	19 Jan 2008 08:52:50 PM

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You're right that $50 billion dollars will not even make a down payment on
immortality in a global paradise that will make Beverly Hills look like a
third world slum...

It's best not to encourage his insane anti-biblical fantasies.

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User: "Precision"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 01:18:30 AM

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You're right that $50 billion dollars will not even make a down payment
on immortality in a global paradise that will make Beverly Hills look
like a third world slum...

It's best not to encourage his insane anti-biblical fantasies.

I'm only trying to help him keep things in their proper perspective.

User: "Kathy"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	19 Jan 2008 08:50:38 PM

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This is one of the most fascinating news for those men who love God
and like sex very much . I myself can't imagine happiness in the
Paradise without sex ! Hold on !

Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise. Anyone who has sex
will be committing fornication.
We don't have to go into much details

as God Yahweh Himself knows this matter the best way .
Adam had so many material things at his disposal and yet God the
Creator stated :
It is not good for man to be alone !

What material things? They didn't exist back then.

This gives us the best assurance that we men were created to have a
wife in our lives and God Yahweh guarantees that to be the truth.

Nowhere in the bible does God guarantee any man a wife or woman a husband.
You are hallucinating again.

I am a servant of God Yahweh and single without a wife and yet I know
Psalm 128 and God Yahweh cannot lie ! There cannot be contradictions
in Holy Writings as well .
So I have to use common sense while studying the Bible and Matthew
22.30 which so many twist by taking Jesus' words literally as they
take Matthew 24.35-36 literally must be interpreted in accord with
Isaiah 28.9-10 : here a little and there a little and we combine
things to arrive at the right conclusion.

Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise. Anyone who has sex
will be committing fornication.

Your posts get crazier all the time. New adults wont be created in
paradise. Where do you get these ideas from?

Once you realize God Yahweh is Love and Power and you understand what
is time all its aspects : the past ,present and the future you can
begin to stop thinking about sex completely just to wait it out untill
God's Kingdom comes . You will not buy a porno movie to watch or pay a
prostitute or masturbate ,knowing what lies ahead for you if you hold
a hope of everlasting life and that you will enjoy sex in the best way
in the Paradise.

Read your bible. Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise.
Anyone who has sex will be committing fornication.

Since I am predicting the coming of God's Kingdom in 2011 AD there is
a good reason to forget about sex " for a moment " and concentrate on
gaining good knowledge of the Bible as presented by God's true
servants that live now on the earth who use the Bible as the best book
in the world.

I just want a wife in the Paradise

Why don't you just get a wife now? There are many single women looking for a
man.
at least like that woman I have

seen today and was amazed . I can do with such a woman for all the
eternity ,knowing she will be always young and sexy according to my
liking. I can have very little in my life and wait 1000 years to have
such woman and I promise I will never complain about sex and life .

This is all unbiblical. Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in
paradise.
Snip same old anti-bible nonsense.
.

User: "Precision"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 01:37:10 AM

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This is one of the most fascinating news for those men who love God
and like sex very much . I myself can't imagine happiness in the
Paradise without sex ! Hold on !

Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise. Anyone who has
sex will be committing fornication.

Kathy, not to defend Obves' projections about the future, but I must
admonish YOU to reread your Bible! It states MARRIAGE will be done away
with. Marriage is an institution. Marriage is a binding legal agreement.
Nowhere did Jesus Christ or Jehovah God state that intimate human
relationships where people love one another will be done away with.
Only marriage itself will be no more, likely because perfect humans do not
need binding agreements as motivation to do what is right for one another or
treat one another with loving kindness, respect, integrity and human
dignity.

We don't have to go into much details

as God Yahweh Himself knows this matter the best way .
Adam had so many material things at his disposal and yet God the
Creator stated :
It is not good for man to be alone !

What material things? They didn't exist back then.

Of course material things existed. This planet is a material realm filled
with vast material riches in the wondrous forms of nature to satiate the
desires of every living thing...

This gives us the best assurance that we men were created to have a
wife in our lives and God Yahweh guarantees that to be the truth.

Nowhere in the bible does God guarantee any man a wife or woman a husband.
You are hallucinating again.

No, but the Bible does say Jehovah loved Adam and made provisions for his
happiness and sexual satisfaction by creating a wife for him.

Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise. Anyone who has
sex will be committing fornication.

Ditto to my previous comments that marriage itself is done away with but not
the human relationships upon which marriage is a binding human contract
between two humans. In the new world people will not need binding contracts
to treat one another with the spirit in which marriage came about to govern
imperfect humans.

Your posts get crazier all the time. New adults wont be created in
paradise. Where do you get these ideas from?

Are you saying those resurrected will be brought back to life as infants?
Based on the scriptures it appears billions will be resurrected as perfect
adult humans (except for maybe those children, adolescents or infants that
died).
Obves will have an eternity to find a perfect companion amongst billions who
are resurrected and future generations that colonize the infinite universe.

Read your bible. Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise.
Anyone who has sex will be committing fornication.

Ditto again to my last comments that marriage as an institution will be no
more... as humans will enjoy intimate responsible relationships like the
angels in heaven do, without having constraints necessary for imperfect
beings placed upon them in their state of perfection.

Why don't you just get a wife now? There are many single women looking for
a man.

That's a question I asked myself when reading Obves message. There are many
women in Kingdom Halls worldwide who would love to marry Obves, no doubt.

at least like that woman I have

This is all unbiblical. Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in
paradise.

Again, ditto, and you're right this time. Nobody will be given in marriage
because binding marital "contracts" will become a thing of the past. Those
who love one another will be paired for eternity just as God's creation in
nature find their helpmates forever, such as the remarkable species of
Lovebirds that find their lifelong mate. Only in nature as it will exist
when God restores mankind and the biosphere to perfection life will be
without end for lovers... showing the romantic side of Jehovah God.

Snip same old anti-bible nonsense.

However, Kathy, you noticed I didn't snip your same old pseudo Bible
nonsense that comes from a gross misunderstanding of a book you have likely
perused but never taken the time to fully read and grasp...
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Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 02:31:34 PM

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This is one of the most fascinating news for those men who love God
and like sex very much . I myself can't imagine happiness in the
Paradise without sex ! Hold on !

Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise. Anyone who has
sex will be committing fornication.

I did reread it. I saw nothing about fornication being done away with in
Paradise. So everyone will be able to fornicate with everyone else there?
Why there and not here? The institution of marriage supposedly was
instituted by God and there is no mention of fornication being done away
with.

Only marriage itself will be no more, likely because perfect humans do not
need binding agreements as motivation to do what is right for one another
or treat one another with loving kindness, respect, integrity and human
dignity.

You are "assuming" this. If that were so the bible would make it plain and
clear as it does it's anti-gay beliefs. Do not assume what is not there.

We don't have to go into much details

as God Yahweh Himself knows this matter the best way .
Adam had so many material things at his disposal and yet God the
Creator stated :
It is not good for man to be alone !

What material things? They didn't exist back then.

Of course material things existed. This planet is a material realm filled
with vast material riches in the wondrous forms of nature to satiate the
desires of every living thing...

Are claiming the first humans had PCs, TVs, good books to read, fine jewelry
and perfumes, good restaurants and theaters? They had steam heat and A/C?
Were is your evidence for this?

This gives us the best assurance that we men were created to have a
wife in our lives and God Yahweh guarantees that to be the truth.

Nowhere in the bible does God guarantee any man a wife or woman a
husband. You are hallucinating again.

No, but the Bible does say Jehovah loved Adam and made provisions for his
happiness and sexual satisfaction by creating a wife for him.

There is no evidence for an Adam individual nor any mention the woman,
biblically called Eve, was created for his sexual satisfaction. You are
ASSUMING what you want to believe to satisfy yourself. Why do you do this?

Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise. Anyone who has
sex will be committing fornication.

Ditto to my previous comments that marriage itself is done away with but
not the human relationships upon which marriage is a binding human
contract between two humans.

And that scripture is WHERE or are you still ASSUMING?
In the new world people will not need binding contracts

to treat one another with the spirit in which marriage came about to
govern imperfect humans.

Since when is marriage a "binding" contract when each person is free to
leave the marriage? It is a legal contract. Please stop changing the truth
to fit what you want to believe.

Your posts get crazier all the time. New adults wont be created in
paradise. Where do you get these ideas from?

Are you saying those resurrected will be brought back to life as infants?

Is that what he claimed? ?????????

Based on the scriptures it appears billions will be resurrected as perfect
adult humans (except for maybe those children, adolescents or infants that
died).
Obves will have an eternity to find a perfect companion amongst billions
who are resurrected and future generations that colonize the infinite
universe.

Irrelevant to the topic at hand. You're ASSUMING what you hope will be.

Read your bible. Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise.
Anyone who has sex will be committing fornication.

Ditto my reply above about ASSUMING.

Why don't you just get a wife now? There are many single women looking
for a man.

That's a question I asked myself when reading Obves message. There are
many women in Kingdom Halls worldwide who would love to marry Obves, no
doubt.

If you read any of his past messages you will see he doesn't want a real
human being but a BEAUTIFUL sexy, obedient, loving, *gorgeous* Stepford
wife. Her body must be perfect and her face beautiful. No real woman would
fit that fantasy.

at least like that woman I have

This is all unbiblical. Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in
paradise.

Again, ditto, and you're right this time.

Again. ditto to ASSUMING what one hopes is true.............
Nobody will be given in marriage

because binding marital "contracts" will become a thing of the past. Those
who love one another will be paired for eternity just as God's creation in
nature find their helpmates forever, such as the remarkable species of
Lovebirds that find their lifelong mate. Only in nature as it will exist
when God restores mankind and the biosphere to perfection life will be
without end for lovers... showing the romantic side of Jehovah God.

Snip same old anti-bible nonsense.

The same can be said for you. You blindly take the GB's self-serving
interpretation without even opening your bible. You them ASSUME how things
will be after you die.

User: "John Clancy McDonald kookwoman1\@kooksof theworld.net"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZINGTRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 11:29:40 AM

Precision wrote:

You mean like mice and rabbits. Your opinion is not a JW opinion isn't
it? Because you are not a JW.
If you were JW you could describe the following"
Woman
Child
Dragon.
go ahead we are waiting.
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User: "M.M. Martinson"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING = "John Clancy McDonald" impersonated by petty JW criminal JABRIOL@	20 Jan 2008 02:37:14 PM

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User: "jabriol"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 02:33:12 PM

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/151130/1.ashx
The Culability of Jehovah's Witnesses and Pedophilia
The subject of pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children often is
complicated. By that I DON'T mean that it is complicated to know how to
deal with pedophiles. They have a despicable problem in their minds and
need to be identified and controlled for all children's sake as well as
for their own sake. Most have difficulties rehabilitating and
re-integrating into society, and thus merit a lifetime of supervision at
least, or incarceration at the other end of that spectrum. But it gets
complicated when it happens within religious communities, such as and
especially Jehovah's Witnesses.
Pedophiles prey upon the innocence of children. Kids are easier to
control and manipulate. Pedophiles operate in the shadows. They know
that their behavior is criminal. They require an environment that
protects them. RELIGIONS OF ALL STRIPES are ripe as a breeding ground
for pedophiles. JW's, Mormons, Catholics all suffer from the same
structural flaw. Whether they want to admit it or not, religions first
ammendment rights of "ecclesiastical privelage" (i.e. All religions in
America Constitutionally legislate themselves, the Governement is not
allowed to do so) is often used to protect themselves from unwelcome
publicity. Pedophiles know this and use it to their advantage. A
pedophile can gain trust over time while expertly getting access to
children for their own perverted pleasure. They realize that even if
they are caught, that they can work the religious system they are in to
avoid going to jail, and perhaps even to continue molesting
children. Pedophiles become experts at appearing remorseful if
caught. (that isn't just my opinion. In talking with forensic
phsychologists who work in prisons, they often point out how
manipulative pedophiles are. Many if not most have the goal of getting
out to do their horrid deeds again.) Elders are so naieve and
untrained to handle these insidious people that they have acually
believed the pedophile over the victim and their families. Pedophiles
have had little to worry about in these circumstances.
The Government depends on all religions to police themselves by ACTUALLY
TURNING IN CRIMINALS OR REPORTING SUSPECTED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. But they
can't make religions do this.This is the structural flaw of almost all
religions that pedophiles exploit. Religions, and JW's in this case
specifically, believe they have the one "truth". This arrogance blinds
them to the problems of pedophiles and it's real criminality. JW's feel
that with Jehovah and the Bible, that they alone are in the best
position to deal with pedophiles. So they deal with them judicially in
their own traditional manner. Even if this means disfellowshipping, it
doesn't mean the victims can talk about it. It isn't allowed STILL for a
reinstated pedophile to be identified for the protection of the
congregation. The GB uses "confidentiality" as a code word for
"control." It must be kept secret, because the pedophile has a right to
privacy according to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. The GB
believes this total ***** because of their interpretation of the
bible.
In this kind of environment, pedophiles thrive. As early as the 1990's,
the GB sent letters to bodies of elders with instruction on how to
handle pedophiles. These instructions were quite emphatic that such
matters be kept strictly confidential. This still hasn't changed. The
congregation still isn't warned if a pedophile is there.
The GB is so disingenuous when it claims that elders call the police "in
states that require them to do so." Talk about a distinction without a
difference!? Who cares if the state you live in hasn't yet legislated
that religions report those suspected of pedophilia to the police. Isn't
it common sense to do exactly that, esp these days? Isn't it scriptural
to report criminal activity? ISN'T IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO? IF IT IS
THE RIGHT THING TO DO, DOESN'T THAT ALSO MAKE IT THE MORAL THING TO DO?
This is exactly the kind of offense that shows the limited wisdom of the
bible. (or at least the GB's ability to interpret it) because of their
"two witnesses" rule. The Governing Body feels that because the bible
says you can't take action against a person without two witnesses, you
can't report suspected pedophilia either without two witnesses.
Pedophiles don't exactly invite other people to watch them. Thats the
point. You will never have two witnesses see a pedophile in action.
Thus, you have no choice but to go by reports! If you are sincere and
want to do the right thing, (as some elders bravely have done) you have
to take what one person tells you seriously. You have to give the police
the chance to do what the elders are obviously not trained to do, which
is to INVESTIGATE POTENTIAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. The cops aren't as easily
fooled as elders are by pedophiles. And yes, they are actually trained
to identify pedophiles. The cops aren't usually going to hang someone
without evidence. How does telling the police that you have a report of
a possible pedophile in your midst go against the bible or otherwise
prevent the congregation from running itself? Haven't JW's learned from
their own horrible experience that this isn't their strong suit? But
they stubbornly insist on doing things their own way. Even if you
believe that the accussed is innocent, let the process happen.
This is why ex JW's get upset, (just in case their are any lurkers
reading who may wonder why you read of the pain of many who post here).
They never had a voice, and were never allowed to talk about what
happened to them. They weren't even allowed to warn others in the
congregation of a pedophile under pain of elder action against them. No
matter what the PR Dept of Jehovah's Witnesses says today, thousands of
people have been discouraged from reporting suspected pedophiles to the
police because of what the elders told them. Sorry folks, that is the
sad, cold truth of the matter.
I know most Jehovah's Witnesses (and most religous folk) hate pedophilia
and pedophiles, and want to protect children. That is a given. That
isn't the point. The culpability for allowing the environment and
circumstances that allow pedophiles to exist belongs to the Governing
Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. It is through their own self serving
interests that they refuse to change. Until the GB directs that all
reports elders hear of pedophilia be instantly turned over to the police
to verify, they will have more blood on their hands. We can accept
nothing less then this concession. There is nothing unscriptural about
this method of dealing with the problem.
IP: lGg/6FSRqQSbrtb419-Jan-08 17:09 by
Re: The Culpability of Jehovah's Witnesses and Pedophilia 19-Jan-08
17:25
It must be kept secret, because the pedophile has a right to privacy
according to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. The GB believes
this total ***** because of their interpretation of the bible.
that's true, they do see it that way. wonder why they won't give
the apostate or adulterer that privilege? some sins that
just grant secrecy too.
IP: K8Mwa9F142je+XPN
.

User: ""
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH !@	20 Jan 2008 01:46:05 PM

On Jan 19, 9:50=A0pm, "Kathy" <Kathy9...@gmail.com> wrote:

<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message

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This is one of the most fascinating news for those men who love God
and like sex very much . I myself can't imagine happiness in the
Paradise without sex ! Hold on !

Jesus said no one will be given in marriage in paradise. =A0Anyone who has=

sex

will be committing fornication.

Don't bother responding to the troll, friend.
"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him
yourself." (Proverbs 26:4)
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
.

User: "Debra"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH !@	20 Jan 2008 12:05:53 PM

On Jan 19, 12:06=EF=BF=BDpm, "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:

God the

Creator stated :
It is not good =EF=BF=BDfor man to be alone !

=EF=BF=BDThis gives us the best assurance that we men were created to have=

wife in our lives and God Yahweh guarantees that to be the truth.

=EF=BF=BDI am a servant of God Yahweh and single without a wife and yet I =

know

Psalm 128 and God Yahweh cannot lie ! There cannot be contradictions
in Holy Writings as well .
=EF=BF=BDSo I have to use common sense while studying the Bible and Matthe=

22.30 which so many twist by taking Jesus' words literally as they
take Matthew 24.35-36 literally must be interpreted in accord with
Isaiah 28.9-10 : here a little and there a little and we combine
things to arrive at the right conclusion.

=EF=BF=BD Not long ago this day I saw on the internet a very beautiful wom=

on add . She was so beautiful from what I saw that I was astounded and
praised God Yahweh and I =EF=BF=BDknow God knows I =EF=BF=BDlike that woma=

n. =EF=BF=BDI I saw

already very beautiful breasts and legs in the past and God Yahweh ,as
a Creator of all women, can repeat the same and create the same
looking woman in the Paradise with the breasts and legs I like so much
and give her to me ! This realization is for any true christian as
well . There will be marriages in the Paradise and so the sex life.

Once you realize God Yahweh is Love and Power and you understand what
is time all its aspects : the past ,present and the future you can
begin to stop thinking about sex completely just to wait it out untill
God's Kingdom comes . You will not buy a porno movie to watch or pay a
prostitute or masturbate ,knowing what lies ahead for you if you hold
a hope of everlasting life and that you will enjoy sex in the best way
in the Paradise.

Since I am predicting the coming of God's Kingdom in 2011 AD there is
a good reason to forget about sex =EF=BF=BD" for a moment " and concentrat=

e on

gaining good knowledge of the Bible as presented by God's true
servants that live now on the earth who use the Bible as the best book
in the world.

=EF=BF=BDI just want a wife in the Paradise at least like that woman I hav=

seen =EF=BF=BDtoday and was amazed . I can do with such a =EF=BF=BDwoman f=

or all the

eternity ,knowing she will be always young and sexy according to my
liking. I can have very little in my life and wait 1000 years to have
such woman and I promise I will never complain about sex and life .

I know that right at the time I was looking at that woman on the
internet I could forget all my past life and how =EF=BF=BDmany years I liv=

doesn't count if we are absorbed in the present moment reading
something or doing something else .What counts is what I feel ,see and
do and this very moment ! And I know that this moment will become a
thing of the past when the next moment kicks and I have to fill up
that new moment of my life .

=EF=BF=BDSo, when January 19,3008 AD comes at that time what I feel ,do wi=

count .not my past life ! The same way I can feel =EF=BF=BDnow about my pa=

st !

No age counts whether I lived 20 or 50 years =EF=BF=BD! It counts what I f=

eel

now . You can =EF=BF=BDdwell on =EF=BF=BDthe past but it is the past and y=

ou cannot

change the past as it recorded irrevesably in our time so what counts
is what is now and in the future.
=EF=BF=BDYou will think about sex life how good it was but it will be an e=

mpty

exeprience and you may end up your past good sex with masturbating !
And that masturbating will be now your greater pleasure than the past
real sex !
=EF=BF=BD But as for me I can think about what I am going to have in the
Paradise and I can have better feelings than you as I wait for
something that is going to happen really . I am better to do that than
to think about my past good sex .It was very =EF=BF=BDgood as the pleasure=

concerned but it is gone and I can live without thinking about that as
thinking alone will not replace the real sex.

=EF=BF=BDWhat I am driving at is that the true hope of eternal life surpas=

ses

all we did and can do now !
=EF=BF=BDThe hope of the super duper sex surpasses all material things we =

can

have now.
I don't want =EF=BF=BDBill Gates' 50 billion of dollars now as they will n=

buy me happiness I want just to wait for dream wife in the future if
it takes 1000 years I can go on .But there is a 2011 AD prediction
ahead me and I should hold on pretty well till that time arrives.

Oh my!
.

User: "Ips-Switch"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 02:43:16 PM

"Debra" <the2goldilocks@aol.com> wrote in message
news:32a30d3b-4eac-4949-b9b5-d129e4f665fc@e32g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 19, 12:06�pm, "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:

I don't want �Bill Gates' 50 billion of dollars now as they will not
buy me happiness I want just to wait for dream wife in the future if
it takes 1000 years I can go on .But there is a 2011 AD prediction
ahead me and I should hold on pretty well till that time arrives.

Oh my!
He says that because he is poorly paid, obese, past middle age and has a
drinking problem he refuses to deal with. He also insists on a very young,
very beautiful, gorgeous young lady who would never look at him in real
life. He *fantasizes* this woman he expects God to hand him on a silver
platter. An obedient Stepford wife with no mind of her own. An automaton.
He's throwing his life down the toilet.
.

User: "Linda Lee"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH !@	20 Jan 2008 02:19:01 PM

On Jan 19, 3:06 pm, "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:

Your hope sounds like the Islamic perception of 'heaven' where every
man gets 72 virgins and lots of wine. Women apparently, get pretty
much nothing. Sounds more like an orgy than heaven.
The Messiah said otherwise in Luke 20:34-36 "Jesus answering said unto
them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the
resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and
are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection."
You'd do best to seek a wife here.
.

User: "Ips-Switch"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 03:17:50 PM

"Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message
news:b9ff71cc-fbdb-43d0-9a01-2004c7427a68@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Your hope sounds like the Islamic perception of 'heaven' where every
man gets 72 virgins and lots of wine. Women apparently, get pretty
much nothing. Sounds more like an orgy than heaven.

The Messiah said otherwise in Luke 20:34-36 "Jesus answering said unto
them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the
resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and
are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection."

You'd do best to seek a wife here.

In his 50s and in bad shape, with little money, he cannot find the gorgeous
YOUNG wife he desires. He will not consider an average woman his own age.
.

User: "Debra"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH !@	20 Jan 2008 04:28:08 PM

On Jan 20, 1:17=EF=BF=BDpm, "Ips-Switch" <Ips...@spamnot.com> wrote:

"Linda Lee" <li...@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message

news:b9ff71cc-fbdb-43d0-9a01-2004c7427a68@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Your hope sounds like the Islamic perception of 'heaven' where every
man gets 72 virgins and lots of wine. Women apparently, get pretty
much nothing. Sounds more like an orgy than heaven.

The Messiah said otherwise in Luke 20:34-36 "Jesus answering said unto
them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the
resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and
are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection."

You'd do best to seek a wife here.

In his 50s and in bad shape, with little money, he cannot find the gorgeou=

YOUNG wife he desires. He will not consider an average woman his own age.

Do you know him personally?
.

User: "Ips-Switch"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 08:00:31 PM

"Debra" <the2goldilocks@aol.com> wrote in message
news:63d39430-9e15-4e5e-b13c-7c231a9aec28@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 20, 1:17�pm, "Ips-Switch" <Ips...@spamnot.com> wrote:

"Linda Lee" <li...@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message

news:b9ff71cc-fbdb-43d0-9a01-2004c7427a68@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Your hope sounds like the Islamic perception of 'heaven' where every
man gets 72 virgins and lots of wine. Women apparently, get pretty
much nothing. Sounds more like an orgy than heaven.

You'd do best to seek a wife here.

In his 50s and in bad shape, with little money, he cannot find the
gorgeous
YOUNG wife he desires. He will not consider an average woman his own age.

Do you know him personally?
I know him from this NG. He's been here for years and sometimes talks about
his personal life. We've encouraged him to seek professional help but he
refuses. He's throwing his entire life away obsessing over Coambell on the
radio, a beautiful wife and when Armageddon is supposed to happen. He's also
deep into some kind of numerology.
.

User: "Linda Lee"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH !@	20 Jan 2008 05:55:59 PM

On Jan 20, 4:17 pm, "Ips-Switch" <Ips...@spamnot.com> wrote:

"Linda Lee" <li...@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message

news:b9ff71cc-fbdb-43d0-9a01-2004c7427a68@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Your hope sounds like the Islamic perception of 'heaven' where every
man gets 72 virgins and lots of wine. Women apparently, get pretty
much nothing. Sounds more like an orgy than heaven.

You'd do best to seek a wife here.

In his 50s and in bad shape, with little money, he cannot find the gorgeous
YOUNG wife he desires. He will not consider an average woman his own age.

I noticed his only requirement in a woman is perfect beauty so he can
use her for sex and then put her out of the way and silent. Pretty
shallow. He'll get what he puts into a relationship, assuming he can
handle any kind of relationship.
.

User: "Ips-Switch"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 08:02:19 PM

"Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 20, 4:17 pm, "Ips-Switch" <Ips...@spamnot.com> wrote:

"Linda Lee" <li...@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message

news:b9ff71cc-fbdb-43d0-9a01-2004c7427a68@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Your hope sounds like the Islamic perception of 'heaven' where every
man gets 72 virgins and lots of wine. Women apparently, get pretty
much nothing. Sounds more like an orgy than heaven.

You'd do best to seek a wife here.

In his 50s and in bad shape, with little money, he cannot find the
gorgeous
YOUNG wife he desires. He will not consider an average woman his own age.

What woman could or would put up with his obsession? Most would grow tired
of it as the last one did and move on. His last girlfriend was years ago.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH !@	19 Jan 2008 02:22:16 PM

You can use your spouse and children and your job and your
house ,your car.But you cannot miss this chance to live in the
Paradise forever and enjoy sex which is after God the next important
human need !
.

User: "Ips-Switch"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	19 Jan 2008 08:51:39 PM

<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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Jesus said none will be given in marriage in paradise. All will be as
angels - sexless.
.

User: "Lars Wilson"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 03:49:35 AM

"Ips-Switch" <Ips794@spamnot.com> wrote in message
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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Jesus said none will be given in marriage in paradise. All will be as
angels - sexless.

Interesting, but just because there is no MARRIAGE doesn't mean there is no
SEX. You're presumption is only correct if you presume angels don't have
sex or the equivalent.
Now since we know that the angels did materialize and come down to have sex
with the beautiful daughters of men, they obviously are interested in sex.
But was that something they could not have had themselves or were they
rebellious?
Fact is, if an angel can materialize a body he could do so and two angels
could have sex with each other if they wanted to. There were no laws in
heaven against angels having sex with one another. Sex is intimate and
expresses love and affection. Why could God create sex for humans and not
angels?
So it boils down to this. Since angels could have had sex with themselves
if they wanted to, even materializing physical bodies to do so, it was just
rebellious to have sex with humans, against which there was a law.
So another interpretation of NO MARRIAGE-LIKE ANGELS, relates to angels
having an open marriage between themselves and being ANDROGYNOUS. That is,
the two sexes, male and female, are only necessary for procreation. But
after everybody is judged, the earth will reach population zero growth. No
more babies. Therefore, no more need for families or marriages. And no
more need for the two sexes, male and female. Instead, the physical nature
of mankind will be androgynous, like the angels. Everybody will have both
sexual characteristics of male and female. And no one will be strictly
married to another, but will be free to have sex with anybody they want.
Everyone will be sexually compatible and women will no longer be the
"weaker" sex.
Now, this relates to ETERNITY in Paradise. Let's say there are 4 billion
people finally on the earth who will live forever. One of the joys, as
OBVES notes is human companionship and exploration, love and sex. With
eternity, there is enough time for everyone on the planet to personally get
to know every other person. But it's possible to do one better than that.
It's possible to live say one year with each person on the planet in a
domestic setting, where, of course, you'd have sex with that person.
A computer program and do the matching. Let's say every other year would be
a matched year where you are matched with one of the other 8 billion people
on the planet, to live with them for a year in some place on the earth
neither of you had ever been before. You'd get to know them quite well in
that year. Then the next year you can do what you want, as you adjust to
the next match. Before that first cycle is complete, it would take 16
billion years.
Of course, if you haven't had sex with someone after a year in 16 billion
years, then you'd be ready to do it agin right? Nah. That's the beauty of
the one year off! During that free year you can have sex with anybody you
want to, all your favorites basically. And there will be so many.
So yes, count out marriage, but don't count out Sex. Being like the angels
only means everybody will have a penis and a vagina and no restrictions.
No children. Who needs kids? Everybody will feel like they are 18 again!
Great times ahead!
Lars Wilson
.

User: "Ips-Switch"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	20 Jan 2008 01:48:01 PM

"Lars Wilson" <siaxares@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
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"Ips-Switch" <Ips794@spamnot.com> wrote in message
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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Jesus said none will be given in marriage in paradise. All will be as
angels - sexless.

Interesting, but just because there is no MARRIAGE doesn't mean there is
no SEX. You're presumption is only correct if you presume angels don't
have sex or the equivalent.

If there is sex without marriage God considers it fornication.

Now since we know that the angels did materialize and come down to have
sex with the beautiful daughters of men, they obviously are interested in
sex. But was that something they could not have had themselves or were
they rebellious?

If they were rebellious they weren't angels but demons. Why would human
woman want sex with a angel or a demon? That is not to be taken literally.

Fact is, if an angel can materialize a body he could do so and two angels
could have sex with each other if they wanted to. There were no laws in
heaven against angels having sex with one another. Sex is intimate and
expresses love and affection. Why could God create sex for humans and not
angels?

If they had sex with each other and were married they weren't fornicating.
If they raped or had sex with humans they were fornicating. And if that
were the case where are they hybrid man-angels or man-demons? We now know
enough about genetics that they would have been found by now.

So it boils down to this. Since angels could have had sex with themselves
if they wanted to, even materializing physical bodies to do so, it was
just rebellious to have sex with humans, against which there was a law.

Then they were demons who raped the humans and not angels.

So another interpretation of NO MARRIAGE-LIKE ANGELS, relates to angels
having an open marriage between themselves and being ANDROGYNOUS. That
is, the two sexes, male and female, are only necessary for procreation.
But after everybody is judged, the earth will reach population zero
growth. No more babies. Therefore, no more need for families or
marriages. And no more need for the two sexes, male and female.
Instead, the physical nature of mankind will be androgynous, like the
angels. Everybody will have both sexual characteristics of male and
female. And no one will be strictly married to another, but will be free
to have sex with anybody they want. Everyone will be sexually compatible
and women will no longer be the "weaker" sex.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!! What an imagination! Everyone sinning and fornicating in
heaven!!!!!!! LOL

Now, this relates to ETERNITY in Paradise. Let's say there are 4 billion
people finally on the earth who will live forever. One of the joys, as
OBVES notes is human companionship and exploration, love and sex. With
eternity, there is enough time for everyone on the planet to personally
get to know every other person. But it's possible to do one better than
that. It's possible to live say one year with each person on the planet in
a domestic setting, where, of course, you'd have sex with that person.

What an imagination you have! Everyone sinning and fornicating in
heaven!!!!!!!

A computer program and do the matching. Let's say every other year would
be a matched year where you are matched with one of the other 8 billion
people on the planet, to live with them for a year in some place on the
earth neither of you had ever been before. You'd get to know them quite
well in that year. Then the next year you can do what you want, as you
adjust to the next match. Before that first cycle is complete, it would
take 16 billion years.

Of course, if you haven't had sex with someone after a year in 16 billion
years, then you'd be ready to do it agin right? Nah. That's the beauty
of the one year off! During that free year you can have sex with anybody
you want to, all your favorites basically. And there will be so many.

So yes, count out marriage, but don't count out Sex. Being like the
angels only means everybody will have a penis and a vagina and no
restrictions. No children. Who needs kids? Everybody will feel like they
are 18 again!

Great times ahead!

Lars Wilson

User: "Lars Wilson"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH ! @	21 Jan 2008 08:26:04 AM

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What an imagination you have! Everyone sinning and fornicating in
heaven!!!!!!!

No. Think of it as polygamy. Everybody is married to everybody else. One
big happy family.
Or think of the idea of marriage. Two angels want to have sex with each
other, so they decide to
get married. But polygamy has never been illegal in the Bible. Jacob had
two wives and two
concubines. Solomon's wives didn't do him much good but he was "married".
So if the angels wanted a second "companion" they could marry that one too
and have sex.
But if this keeps up, every angel will be married to every other angel. So
what's the purpose
of marriage, if anybody can marry everybody else? Not necessary. And not
"forication."
Jesus is going to be "married" the Chruch, 144,000 natural Jews and
1,296,000 gentiles. You
think he's not going to have sex with them? What is marriage for? Or if he
did want to have
sex with his own wife, would God care? Of course not!
That's what this is all about anyway. Angels are androgynous. Jesus was
once married to
Satan, a beautiful angel, but once mankind was created he fell head over
heals for Adam. God
seeing this, since Christ was faithful, allowed him to have a "wife" from
mankind, because that is
whom he was most in love with now. MANKIND.
Jesus has always been that way. Look at his choice in "companion" when he
was here. The
disciple Jesus LOVED was his own cousin, John. That's why those tales about
Mary Magdalene
being Jesus' "companion" is a laugh. But the Freemasons and secret
societies who promote
MM as Jesus' companion do so in substitution and concert with John. MM
replaces John. So
that implies John and Jesus were companions, lovers, etc. We know it
wasn't physical, but
it was likely the usual non-sexual relationship between two "eunuchs" (gays)
in those times which
was culturally understood and acceptable.
Lars Wilson
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User: "Debra"
Title: Re: @ I AM WAITING FOR A BEAUTIFUL WIFE IN PARADISE - AMAZING TRUTH !@	20 Jan 2008 04:25:55 PM

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You can use your spouse and children and your job and =EF=BF=BD your
house ,your car.But you cannot miss this chance to live in the
Paradise forever and enjoy sex which is after God the next important
human need !

Jesus said none will be given in marriage in paradise. All will be as
angels - sexless.

Interesting, but just because there is no MARRIAGE doesn't mean there is=
no SEX. =EF=BF=BD You're presumption is only correct if you presume ange=

ls don't

have sex or the equivalent.

If there is sex without marriage God considers it fornication.

Now since we know that the angels did materialize and come down to have
sex with the beautiful daughters of men, they obviously are interested i=

sex. But was that something they could not have had themselves or were
they rebellious?

If they were rebellious they weren't angels but demons. Why would human
woman want sex with a angel or a demon? =EF=BF=BDThat is not to be taken l=

iterally.

Fact is, if an angel can materialize a body he could do so and two angel=

could have sex with each other if they wanted to. There were no laws in
heaven against angels having sex with one another. =EF=BF=BDSex is intim=

ate and

expresses love and affection. =EF=BF=BDWhy could God create sex for huma=

ns and not

angels?

If they had sex with each other and were married they weren't fornicating.=
If they raped or had sex with humans they were fornicating. =EF=BF=BDAnd i=

f that

were the case where are they hybrid man-angels or man-demons? =EF=BF=BDWe =

now know

enough about genetics that they would have been found by now.

So it boils down to this. =EF=BF=BDSince angels could have had sex with =

themselves

if they wanted to, even materializing physical bodies to do so, it was
just rebellious to have sex with humans, against which there was a law.

Then they were demons who raped the humans and not angels.

So another interpretation of NO MARRIAGE-LIKE ANGELS, relates to angels
having an open marriage between themselves and being ANDROGYNOUS. =EF=BF=

=BD That

is, the two sexes, male and female, are only necessary for procreation.
But after everybody is judged, the earth will reach population zero
growth. =EF=BF=BDNo more babies. =EF=BF=BDTherefore, no more need for fa=

milies or

marriages. =EF=BF=BD And no more need for the two sexes, male and female=

Instead, the physical nature of mankind will be androgynous, like the
angels. =EF=BF=BDEverybody will have both sexual characteristics of male=

and

female. =EF=BF=BDAnd no one will be strictly married to another, but wil=

l be free

to have sex with anybody they want. Everyone will be sexually compatible=
and women will no longer be the "weaker" sex.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!! =EF=BF=BD What an imagination! =EF=BF=BDEveryone sinning an=

d fornicating in

heaven!!!!!!! =EF=BF=BDLOL

Now, this relates to ETERNITY in Paradise. =EF=BF=BD Let's say there are=

4 billion

people finally on the earth who will live forever. =EF=BF=BD One of the =

joys, as

OBVES notes is human companionship and exploration, love and sex. =EF=BF=

=BD =EF=BF=BDWith

eternity, there is enough time for everyone on the planet to personally
get to know every other person. =EF=BF=BDBut it's possible to do one bet=

ter than

that. It's possible to live say one year with each person on the planet =

a domestic setting, where, of course, you'd have sex with that person.

=EF=BF=BDWhat an imagination you have! =EF=BF=BDEveryone sinning and forni=

cat