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12 Oct 2007 10:18:18 PM |
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((( WHERE ARE WE IN THE BIBLE ? ))) |
We must live in the times Matthew 24.29 applies to !
Let's go back to the end timeline as prescribed by the 66 books of the
Bible .Any Bible has to have at least 66 books - the same books .
God's name YAHWEH resembles i77i77 which is like 1,7,7,1,7,7 = 30 To
get this value we must move all 4 Hebrew consonants representing God's
name : YHWH for one place : Y=the 10th letter in the Old Hebrew
language becomes the 11th .H-the 5th now is the 6th ,W-the 6th now the
7th,H-the 5th now the 6th.
10,5,6,5 is now 11,6,7,6 11,6 = YAH - GOD's Name 11x6 = 66
7x6=42 years = "7 Times"
To decode the times of the mankind we must use God's name transformed
into numbers.The numbers that were written in the Hebrew as words must
be interpret just as we must interpret all other words of the Bible.
We look for somebody that has the best interpretation of the Bible so
the best interpretation of numbers that are found in the Bible ! If
the best interpretation then we can assume that somebody has God
Yahweh on his side and is approved of God .
There must be the best existing interpretation of the Bible so the
best interpretation of the end times if we really live in the final
years of the present world order. "7 Times " is a very important tool
to know the Bible is for our times.If so ,we must have the same true
christian religion today as it was in the times of Christ and his
first disciples .
We have to reconstrue those ancient times by using calculations and by
arriving at various similar dates .
" 7 Times " can mean as I proved it : 2520 years,252 years,420 years ,
42 years , 70 years and 7 years .Read my previous post on this forum .
The year I understood the 70 and 7 weeks of Daniel 9.24-25 as
projected into the far distant future was 1984 AD. That was the basic
revelation that allows us to understand God Yahweh that He exists and
is Almighty and all-wise and the Bible must come from Him. Also we can
decode the whole chronology of mankind .
1984 AD - " 7 Times " + 70 years ( 70 weeks ) = 607 BC Note : "7 Times
" here must represent a very known period of 2520 years.
7 x 360 days in a prophetic year = 2520 days = 2520 years ( solar
years)
Solar years are longer so we can have excess of 30 or 35 or 36 or 37
years .
607 BC + 2520 years = 1914 AD 1914 AD - 30 years = 1884 AD 1914 AD -
35 years = 1879 AD 607 BC - 70 years = 537 BC 537 BC + 2520 years =
1984 AD + 7 years = 1991 AD
7 weeks = 7 Times + 7 years = 537 BC + 2520 years + 7 years = 1991 AD
So ,we have the basic end-time era : 1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD -
1984 AD -1991 AD
And these dates must reflect the dates when Christ and his first
disciples lived .
7 BC - 2 BC - 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD - 106 AD
1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1918 AD - 1921 AD - 1991 AD
Since we have a reversal of 7 years and 70 years you try to notice
above : we can have : 1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1988 AD
-1991 AD.In this setting only we have the year 1950 AD as the
corresponding date to 70 AD.
66 Books of the Bible can be divided this way:
27 books + 12 books = the Old Testament 27 books in the New Testament.
27+12 + 27 = 66
1879 AD + 12 years for the 12 books in the Old Testament = 1891 AD
1891 AD + 27 years for 27 books in the Old Testament = 1918 AD
1918 AD + 27 years for 27 books of the New Testament = 1945 AD
1945 AD + 27 years for 27 books of the New Testament = 1972 AD 1972 AD
+ 27 years for the 27 books in the Old Testament = 1999 AD 1999 AD +
12 years for the 12 books of the Old Testament = 2011 AD
The falling stars from Matthew 24.29 are the leftovers of the old
order - the Old Testament - that are to end the old order of things .
That is why we can ascribe one year to every falling star ! So , we
have 12 symbolic stars falling down .
So , we may be living in the times when we are very close to the last
falling star that should take place in 2011 AD !
If the year 2011 AD we must then be behind Matthew 24.3-28 !
And the year 1999 AD should have ended the Great Spiritual
Tribulation.
The whole period 1914 AD - 1999 AD can be covered by that
triubulation.That is why go back to my much earlier posts on this
forum .
On Agust 11,1999 AD the sun darkened totally and then on January ,21 ,
2000 AD there was eclipse of the moon .And we start counting 12
falling stars from the fall in 2000 AD.
2000 AD- 1st star 2007 AD - 8th star 2011 AD - 12th star falling !
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| User: "^s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e^" |
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| Title: Re: ((( WHERE ARE WE IN THE BIBLE ? ))) |
13 Oct 2007 12:20:49 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> skrev i melding news:1192245498.911256.152750@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
We must live in the times Matthew 24.29 applies to !
Let's go back to the end timeline as prescribed by the 66 books of the
Bible .Any Bible has to have at least 66 books - the same books .
God's name YAHWEH resembles i77i77 which is like 1,7,7,1,7,7 = 30 To
get this value we must move all 4 Hebrew consonants representing God's
name : YHWH for one place : Y=the 10th letter in the Old Hebrew
language becomes the 11th .H-the 5th now is the 6th ,W-the 6th now the
7th,H-the 5th now the 6th.
10,5,6,5 is now 11,6,7,6 11,6 = YAH - GOD's Name 11x6 = 66
7x6=42 years = "7 Times"
To decode the times of the mankind we must use God's name transformed
into numbers.The numbers that were written in the Hebrew as words must
be interpret just as we must interpret all other words of the Bible.
We look for somebody that has the best interpretation of the Bible so
the best interpretation of numbers that are found in the Bible ! If
the best interpretation then we can assume that somebody has God
Yahweh on his side and is approved of God .
Idiotic reasoning, and not what the bible says. The way they act towards eachother
is the approved people of God, not lunatic knowledge imposers like the JW's and
crazy bible calculators like you are, trying to oppose what the bible says about
nobody knowing the time of the end.
-snip crazy BS-
Saba
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| User: "" |
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13 Oct 2007 03:44:32 PM |
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"^s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e^" <veron...@frisurf.no>
You better collect yourself and begin real study of the Bible ,not
just by superficial taking out some convenient words.
You need to start it all over . I have wrote numerous posts on the
subject of predictions.
Call Harold Camping who is also predicting the year 2011 AD on his
Open Forum program and tell him no body can know the time of the end
and what he will tell you .
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| User: "Kathy" |
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13 Oct 2007 10:27:39 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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"^s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e^" <veron...@frisurf.no>
You better collect yourself and begin real study of the Bible ,not
just by superficial taking out some convenient words.
You need to start it all over . I have wrote numerous posts on the
subject of predictions.
Call Harold Camping who is also predicting the year 2011 AD on his
Open Forum program and tell him no body can know the time of the end
and what he will tell you .
Is Camping now claiming Jesus lied and that he, Camping, was told by God the
year of Armageddon?
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| User: "Wylecoyote" |
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30 Oct 2007 12:15:40 AM |
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Ok, well I haven't seen neither Jesus or The Devil step on the scene,
yet all these "prophets" keep predicting thier estimated time of
arrival, but they don't deliver.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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30 Oct 2007 03:28:52 PM |
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Wylecoyote wrote:
Ok, well I haven't seen neither Jesus or The Devil step on the scene,
yet all these "prophets" keep predicting thier estimated time of
arrival, but they don't deliver.
===>It is a 2000 year old hoax. -- L.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "" |
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13 Oct 2007 04:28:44 PM |
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You look the wrong way .If we could determine the true religion how
people act towards each other you would have to change your religion
hundreds of times !
We are to look for a religion that affects your life in the eternal
dimension.
If that is a religion God of the Bible accepts and am I gioing to be
blessed with life everlasting.
We study the Bible and check the views of a person we are listening
to if these views are in the best agreement with the Bible.
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| User: "^~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~^" |
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13 Oct 2007 05:34:38 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> skrev i melding news:1192310924.444682.218240@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
You look the wrong way .If we could determine the true religion how
people act towards each other you would have to change your religion
hundreds of times !
If there's love, that's enough to determine them. Not just military inactiveness,
but true love and forgiveness built on the very mercy that Christ is giving us,
we give to them. Read it in the bible that love is what you recognize them on,
don't cook up some truth on your own.
We are to look for a religion that affects your life in the eternal
dimension.
If that is a religion God of the Bible accepts and am I gioing to be
blessed with life everlasting.
We study the Bible and check the views of a person we are listening
to if these views are in the best agreement with the Bible.
Belief in that God will grant you eternal life based on the theme Grace by
Christ is actually all you need to stay focused. Doesn't excuse your thinking
ability, as some JW's seem to think, but reinforces it in a big way. That's why
Jesus when he came, overthrew the rule based, workbased sacrificial system
of no hope (cause we couldn't fix it anyway). Now it's fixed. All you have to
do is take it, it's a free gift, and this affects your life in the 'eternal dimension'.
That is the religion of the bible that God accepts. He wants 'love, not sacrifice'.
Saba
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| User: "John 3:16 Christians" |
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13 Oct 2007 01:18:56 AM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192245498.911256.152750@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
We must live in the times Matthew 24.29 applies to !
Let's go back to the end timeline as prescribed by the 66 books of the
Bible .Any Bible has to have at least 66 books - the same books .
God's name YAHWEH resembles i77i77 which is like 1,7,7,1,7,7 = 30 To
get this value we must move all 4 Hebrew consonants representing God's
name : YHWH for one place : Y=the 10th letter in the Old Hebrew
language becomes the 11th .H-the 5th now is the 6th ,W-the 6th now the
7th,H-the 5th now the 6th.
10,5,6,5 is now 11,6,7,6 11,6 = YAH - GOD's Name 11x6 = 66
7x6=42 years = "7 Times"
To decode the times of the mankind we must use God's name transformed
into numbers.The numbers that were written in the Hebrew as words must
be interpret just as we must interpret all other words of the Bible.
We look for somebody that has the best interpretation of the Bible so
the best interpretation of numbers that are found in the Bible ! If
the best interpretation then we can assume that somebody has God
Yahweh on his side and is approved of God .
There must be the best existing interpretation of the Bible so the
best interpretation of the end times if we really live in the final
years of the present world order. "7 Times " is a very important tool
to know the Bible is for our times.If so ,we must have the same true
christian religion today as it was in the times of Christ and his
first disciples .
We have to reconstrue those ancient times by using calculations and by
arriving at various similar dates .
" 7 Times " can mean as I proved it : 2520 years,252 years,420 years ,
42 years , 70 years and 7 years .Read my previous post on this forum .
The year I understood the 70 and 7 weeks of Daniel 9.24-25 as
projected into the far distant future was 1984 AD. That was the basic
revelation that allows us to understand God Yahweh that He exists and
is Almighty and all-wise and the Bible must come from Him. Also we can
decode the whole chronology of mankind .
1984 AD - " 7 Times " + 70 years ( 70 weeks ) = 607 BC Note : "7 Times
" here must represent a very known period of 2520 years.
7 x 360 days in a prophetic year = 2520 days = 2520 years ( solar
years)
Solar years are longer so we can have excess of 30 or 35 or 36 or 37
years .
607 BC + 2520 years = 1914 AD 1914 AD - 30 years = 1884 AD 1914 AD -
35 years = 1879 AD 607 BC - 70 years = 537 BC 537 BC + 2520 years =
1984 AD + 7 years = 1991 AD
7 weeks = 7 Times + 7 years = 537 BC + 2520 years + 7 years = 1991 AD
So ,we have the basic end-time era : 1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD -
1984 AD -1991 AD
And these dates must reflect the dates when Christ and his first
disciples lived .
7 BC - 2 BC - 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD - 106 AD
1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1918 AD - 1921 AD - 1991 AD
Since we have a reversal of 7 years and 70 years you try to notice
above : we can have : 1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1988 AD
-1991 AD.In this setting only we have the year 1950 AD as the
corresponding date to 70 AD.
66 Books of the Bible can be divided this way:
27 books + 12 books = the Old Testament 27 books in the New Testament.
27+12 + 27 = 66
1879 AD + 12 years for the 12 books in the Old Testament = 1891 AD
1891 AD + 27 years for 27 books in the Old Testament = 1918 AD
1918 AD + 27 years for 27 books of the New Testament = 1945 AD
1945 AD + 27 years for 27 books of the New Testament = 1972 AD 1972 AD
+ 27 years for the 27 books in the Old Testament = 1999 AD 1999 AD +
12 years for the 12 books of the Old Testament = 2011 AD
The falling stars from Matthew 24.29 are the leftovers of the old
order - the Old Testament - that are to end the old order of things .
That is why we can ascribe one year to every falling star ! So , we
have 12 symbolic stars falling down .
So , we may be living in the times when we are very close to the last
falling star that should take place in 2011 AD !
If the year 2011 AD we must then be behind Matthew 24.3-28 !
And the year 1999 AD should have ended the Great Spiritual
Tribulation.
The whole period 1914 AD - 1999 AD can be covered by that
triubulation.That is why go back to my much earlier posts on this
forum .
On Agust 11,1999 AD the sun darkened totally and then on January ,21 ,
2000 AD there was eclipse of the moon .And we start counting 12
falling stars from the fall in 2000 AD.
2000 AD- 1st star 2007 AD - 8th star 2011 AD - 12th star falling !
john.3.16.christians:
Very simple: "You must love the Lord thy God with all your heart, mind,
and soul..." and "...you are to love your neighbor as thyself". How many
numbers is in that?
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| User: "" |
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13 Oct 2007 03:54:00 PM |
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Are you ready to jump from one denomination that quotes the same words
of love to another one that also quotes the same words ?
If you use the words plainly as an indicator of the true religion ?
All are true so prove that by changing your religion : one week be a
catholic , another week be a Protestant .All can give you the words
John 3.16 from the Bible .
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| User: "John 3:16 Christians" |
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15 Oct 2007 07:14:08 AM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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Are you ready to jump from one denomination that quotes the same words
of love to another one that also quotes the same words ?
If you use the words plainly as an indicator of the true religion ?
All are true so prove that by changing your religion : one week be a
catholic , another week be a Protestant .All can give you the words
John 3.16 from the Bible .
john.3.16.christians:
Bravo!
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| User: "" |
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12 Oct 2007 11:03:17 PM |
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Note to a reader. We must reconstruct the ancient times when Christ
and his first disciples lived .
7 BC- 2 BC - 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD - 70 AD - 106 AD
= 112 years
1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1918 AD - 1921 AD - 1950 AD - 1984 AD -
1988 AD - 1991 AD = 112 years
Then we know we can speak that the Bible applies to us and there must
be the true christianity today that is presented by one small group
of
Christ's servant and one seperate servant of Christ that concludes
the
list of 144000 chosen servants as per Luke 9.49-50 and Revelation
14.1-5.
The basic date to create the end time era is the year 1984 AD which
was the year I understood the 70 weeks and 7 weeks of Daniel 9.24-25
as projected into the far distant future.
The calculations lead to the three dates in our times:
1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD
70 weeks transformed : " 7 Times " + 70 years
7 weeks transformed : " 7 Times " + 7 years
607 BC + 2520 years = 1914 AD + 70 years = 1984 AD
537 BC + 2520 years = 1984 AD + 7 years = 1991 AD
Since the destruction of Jerusalem took place 20 years later in 587
BC
we can add to the timetable 20 years.
607 BC - 587 BC = 20 years = 537 BC - 517 BC
517 BC + 2520 years = 2004 AD + 7 years = 2011 AD
2011 AD is linked to 11 AD when Christ began preaching as a 12-year
old youth.
We must have 120 years counted as in Noah's days- Genesis 6.3
2011 AD - 120 years = 1891 AD and this date is linked to the age of
Christ when he was 12 year-old.
1891 AD - 12 years = 1879 AD
To have that note we must consider the two dates : 7 BC and 2 BC as
equal .
7 BC = 1879 AD 2 BC = 1884 AD 1914 AD = 29 AD
How come the two can be equal ?
It is a silent agreement resulting from the understanding the Bible
that was hidden for ages.
A person who is 17-year old can look like he is a 12-year old ! Then
we have reconciled an apparent contradiction.
Both dates 7 BC and 2 BC are correct !
In the year 29 AD Christ was both 30 years old and 35 years old ! 30
or 35 days can be added to the prophetic calendar in the period of 7
years ( 2520 days ) which is "7 times " to make up for the time lost
to the solar calendar . 30 days = 30 years 35 days = 35 years
1914 AD when " 7 times " ended since 607 BC - 30 years = 1884 AD or
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35 years = 1879 AD !
So , we have a marvelous timetable for the end times .
1879 AD- 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD - 2004 AD - 2011 AD
We add one year for Christ as the beginning and one year for he is
also the end :
1878 AD - 1879 AD 2011 AD - 2012 AD (Sep - Oct)
70 AD = 1950 AD = 1955 AD 106 AD =
1914 AD = 1991 AD
1914 AD - 1918 AD - 1921 AD - 1955 AD - 1991 AD
29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD - 70 AD - 106 AD
1914 AD - 1950 AD - 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD
106 AD - 70 AD - 36 AD - 33 AD - 29 AD
Also note we can have :
7 x 360 days in a prophetic year = 2520 days = 2520 years
but also 7 x 365 days in a solar year = 2555 days - 2555 years . If
leap years taken into account we have :
2556 days or 2557 days or 2556 years or 2557 years.
The average is 2556 years . 2556 - 2520 = 36 years
1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1950 AD
- 35 - 30 O + 36
All in all these are the best dates to come up with first to mark
the end time era !
1878 AD - 1879 AD - 1891 AD - 1914 AD - 1918 AD -1921 AD - 1950 AD -
1955 AD - 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD - 2004 AD - 2011 AD - 2012 AD
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13 Oct 2007 01:20:45 AM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192248197.918964.115240@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Note to a reader. We must reconstruct the ancient times when Christ
and his first disciples lived .
7 BC- 2 BC - 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD - 70 AD - 106 AD
= 112 years
1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1918 AD - 1921 AD - 1950 AD - 1984 AD -
1988 AD - 1991 AD = 112 years
Then we know we can speak that the Bible applies to us and there must
be the true christianity today that is presented by one small group
of
Christ's servant and one seperate servant of Christ that concludes
the
list of 144000 chosen servants as per Luke 9.49-50 and Revelation
14.1-5.
The basic date to create the end time era is the year 1984 AD which
was the year I understood the 70 weeks and 7 weeks of Daniel 9.24-25
as projected into the far distant future.
The calculations lead to the three dates in our times:
1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD
70 weeks transformed : " 7 Times " + 70 years
7 weeks transformed : " 7 Times " + 7 years
607 BC + 2520 years = 1914 AD + 70 years = 1984 AD
537 BC + 2520 years = 1984 AD + 7 years = 1991 AD
Since the destruction of Jerusalem took place 20 years later in 587
BC
we can add to the timetable 20 years.
607 BC - 587 BC = 20 years = 537 BC - 517 BC
517 BC + 2520 years = 2004 AD + 7 years = 2011 AD
2011 AD is linked to 11 AD when Christ began preaching as a 12-year
old youth.
We must have 120 years counted as in Noah's days- Genesis 6.3
2011 AD - 120 years = 1891 AD and this date is linked to the age of
Christ when he was 12 year-old.
1891 AD - 12 years = 1879 AD
To have that note we must consider the two dates : 7 BC and 2 BC as
equal .
7 BC = 1879 AD 2 BC = 1884 AD 1914 AD = 29 AD
How come the two can be equal ?
It is a silent agreement resulting from the understanding the Bible
that was hidden for ages.
A person who is 17-year old can look like he is a 12-year old ! Then
we have reconciled an apparent contradiction.
Both dates 7 BC and 2 BC are correct !
In the year 29 AD Christ was both 30 years old and 35 years old ! 30
or 35 days can be added to the prophetic calendar in the period of 7
years ( 2520 days ) which is "7 times " to make up for the time lost
to the solar calendar . 30 days = 30 years 35 days = 35 years
1914 AD when " 7 times " ended since 607 BC - 30 years = 1884 AD or
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35 years = 1879 AD !
So , we have a marvelous timetable for the end times .
1879 AD- 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD - 2004 AD - 2011 AD
We add one year for Christ as the beginning and one year for he is
also the end :
1878 AD - 1879 AD 2011 AD - 2012 AD (Sep - Oct)
70 AD = 1950 AD = 1955 AD 106 AD =
1914 AD = 1991 AD
1914 AD - 1918 AD - 1921 AD - 1955 AD - 1991 AD
29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD - 70 AD - 106 AD
1914 AD - 1950 AD - 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD
106 AD - 70 AD - 36 AD - 33 AD - 29 AD
Also note we can have :
7 x 360 days in a prophetic year = 2520 days = 2520 years
but also 7 x 365 days in a solar year = 2555 days - 2555 years . If
leap years taken into account we have :
2556 days or 2557 days or 2556 years or 2557 years.
The average is 2556 years . 2556 - 2520 = 36 years
1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD - 1950 AD
- 35 - 30 O + 36
All in all these are the best dates to come up with first to mark
the end time era !
1878 AD - 1879 AD - 1891 AD - 1914 AD - 1918 AD -1921 AD - 1950 AD -
1955 AD - 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD - 2004 AD - 2011 AD - 2012 AD
john.3.16.christians:
"For God is a god of peace, not confusion......" (paraphasing)
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13 Oct 2007 03:49:44 PM |
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"For God is a god of peace, not confusion......" (paraphasing)-
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What a wonderful verse ! Yes, God is working His plan in a well
prepared manner and all things take place in strict time framework .
The calculations and the resulting dates prove that .
It is not that somebody quotes the verses in the Bible and it is all
right .
Which denomination doesn't quote the Bible and what are they all right
at the same time ? No !
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| User: "Kathy" |
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13 Oct 2007 04:07:11 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192308584.240557.84390@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
"For God is a god of peace, not confusion......" (paraphasing)-
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What a wonderful verse ! Yes, God is working His plan in a well
prepared manner and all things take place in strict time framework .
The calculations and the resulting dates prove that .
It is not that somebody quotes the verses in the Bible and it is all
right .
Which denomination doesn't quote the Bible and what are they all right
at the same time ? No !
Only you're right because you're a prophet - right?
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13 Oct 2007 04:42:46 PM |
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On Oct 13, 5:07?pm, "Kathy" <Kathy9...@gmail.com> wrote:> Only you're
right because you're a prophet - right?
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I am not saying I am the only true christian servant of Christ .I am
very often resorting to Luke 9.49-50 which speaks about the two
categories of Christ's servants :
one small group of Christ's disciples and one seperate servant that is
outside that group and by Jesus' words both are confirmed .
If we want to identify these servants we must use the Bible data and
common sense if such servants are present in our days .
But here comes a problem . How can we know the Bible was written for
us who are living long time after Christ lived and the Bible was
compiled by people who might have been apostates ?
I think that it won't be easy for you to prove the Bible is for
us today . Can you prove Matthew 24.1-31 is for our times or other
later times ?
Note Jesus was speaking to his disciples who were with him and said "
you will see .... " when he giving the signs .
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| User: "^~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~^" |
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13 Oct 2007 05:29:50 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> skrev i melding news:1192311766.797385.101580@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 13, 5:07?pm, "Kathy" <Kathy9...@gmail.com> wrote:> Only you're
right because you're a prophet - right?
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I am not saying I am the only true christian servant of Christ .I am
very often resorting to Luke 9.49-50 which speaks about the two
categories of Christ's servants :
one small group of Christ's disciples and one seperate servant that is
outside that group and by Jesus' words both are confirmed .
If we want to identify these servants we must use the Bible data and
common sense if such servants are present in our days .
But here comes a problem . How can we know the Bible was written for
us who are living long time after Christ lived and the Bible was
compiled by people who might have been apostates ?
I think that it won't be easy for you to prove the Bible is for
us today . Can you prove Matthew 24.1-31 is for our times or other
later times ?
Note Jesus was speaking to his disciples who were with him and said "
you will see .... " when he giving the signs .
right, it's signs, not numbers to calculate. You have to understand the sign
of the times and understand it in context. Ok, dude?
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: ((( WHERE ARE WE IN THE BIBLE ? ))) |
13 Oct 2007 10:45:07 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:29:50 +0200, "^~s.a.b.a
g.r.a.c.i.l.e~^" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote:
<OBVES@aol.com> skrev i melding
On Oct 13, 5:07?pm, "Kathy"
<Kathy9...@gmail.com> wrote:>
Only you're right because you're a prophet - right?
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I am not saying I am the only true christian servant of Christ.
I am very often resorting to Luke 9.49-50 which speaks about
the two categories of Christ's servants:
I think that it won't be easy for you to prove the Bible
is for us today . Can you prove Matthew 24.1-31 is for
our times or other later times?
Note Jesus was speaking to his disciples who were
with him and said" you will see ...." when he giving
the signs .
Right, it's signs, not numbers to calculate. You have
to understand the sign of the times and understand it
in context. Ok, dude?
You ignored his statement. Just because YOU don't THINK
the signs happened, that doesn't mean you get to move the
time frame that Jesus stated and He DID state one and He
told His disciples that were standing there, that THEY would
see it.
You need to stop reading the Bible as if everything in it
has your name on it and as if He really meant to talk to
you personally, in your time.
The Bible was not written yesterday, just for you, because
God really wanted to skip over everyone, until you were
born, dude!
If Jesus wanted to talk to you, then He would have come
in the 21st century, not the 1st, don't you think? Or do
you think that God decided that to confuse the disciples
and just make them think He was talking to them?
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If you wouldn't say it in person, why say it online?
To email me, just remove the underscores.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: ((( WHERE ARE WE IN THE BIBLE ? ))) |
13 Oct 2007 09:32:30 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:29:50 +0200, "^~s.a.b.a
g.r.a.c.i.l.e~^" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote:
Right, it's signs, not numbers to calculate. You have to
understand the sign of the times and understand it in
context. Ok, dude?
Wait, lemme guess... it's all about you and your generation,
right?
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If you wouldn't say it in person, why say it online?
To email me, just remove the underscores.
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| User: "Kathy" |
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| Title: Re: ((( WHERE ARE WE IN THE BIBLE ? ))) |
13 Oct 2007 10:25:21 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192311766.797385.101580@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 13, 5:07?pm, "Kathy" <Kathy9...@gmail.com> wrote:> Only you're
right because you're a prophet - right?
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I am not saying I am the only true christian servant of Christ .
How are you serving him? In what capacity?
I am
very often resorting to Luke 9.49-50 which speaks about the two
categories of Christ's servants :
one small group of Christ's disciples and one seperate servant that is
outside that group and by Jesus' words both are confirmed .
So Luke was referring to you and you alone as that one servant outside the
group?
If we want to identify these servants we must use the Bible data and
common sense if such servants are present in our days .
But here comes a problem . How can we know the Bible was written for
us who are living long time after Christ lived and the Bible was
compiled by people who might have been apostates ?
So apostates compiled the bible? Who else was there to compile it at the
time? If it wasn't for the apostates we wouldn't have the bible.
I think that it won't be easy for you to prove the Bible is for
us today . Can you prove Matthew 24.1-31 is for our times or other
later times ?
Jesus was talking the people of his times, not us.
Note Jesus was speaking to his disciples who were with him and said "
you will see .... " when he giving the signs .
And they all died as all people do so the prophesy was left unforefilled.
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