On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 17:31:27 -0800 (PST), gatekeeper
<gatekeeper.eastgate@hotmail.com> said the following:
Chuck said:
Now Chuck is really going to get in trouble!
He called me a "full preterist heretic, and
a goof." Now the first part is bad enough,
but the last, a "goof" is totally over the top!
Gk
Okay, one chance, and one only. Tell me now that
you don't believe all prophecy has been fulfilled,
and I'll recant what I said about you being a full
preterist, and apologize for the remark.
You do anything else, and I mean ANYTHING ELSE,
and you'll never get an apology from me even if you
crawled on your belly to me and begged for it. One
chance, Gk. If you're not a believer that all biblical
prophecies have been fulfilled since 70 ad, you have
a choice to make here. You can react to my harsh
and arrogant tone, or you can speak the truth,
knowing that it's not to whom one speaks it that
counts, but that one does when called upon.
<So Chuck admits that his supposed offer of an apology,
which by the way is conditional, is actually him being
harsh and arrogant.>
GK said:
So now you are God? That you can demand anything
of anybody! Then you say you will do this, and you
won't do that, when God said you cannot add a cubit
to your height! You say you will never apologize to
me if I come begging on my belly! If you were the
one offering a sincere apology, then you would be
the one on your belly! When God's word, says,
let your nay be nay, and your yeah, be yeah!
Amen! :)
Then you think I need an apology from you! Do I even
expect an apology? No, not even that! If you offered
an apology, because God convicted you of something,
then I would graciously receive it!
But he won't. :)
That I should beg you for an apology, like you are
my master, no, I am free born in Jesus, and need
nothing from any man! Get over yourself! As it is
I am not asking anything of you!
Amen! Chuck thinks so much of himself, that he thinks
that offering an apology means making demands of you
and that you must grovel at his feet, begging for an
apology! But hey, Chuck is not conceited, right? I mean,
it isn't conceited, nor arrogant, to demand that someone
conform to his doctrine, before he'll apologize, is it?
Sounds like the Roman Catholic Church during the
Inquisitions to me! (:
I do find your flailings amusing though, as you flounder
on your back. You are the one who called me a name,
you are the one in violation of the Scripture! You who
claim to always abide by the scripture, and even here
in this current demand, you show your foolishness!
Excuse me while I snicker! Sorry, make that LOL!!!!!
But Chuck said that to attack someone takes character!
Oh wait, that's right, he only applied that rule to himself!
Now, so that there is no doubt, I believe that all
the prophesies which Jesus mentioned in the
Olivet discourse have indeed been fulfilled, and
that the prophetic plan laid out by Jesus in the
Olivet discourse have been brought to total fruition
in the events surrounding His crucifixion, resurrection,
ascension, the appearing to Stephen, and the
subsequent distruction of the old temple in 70 AD.
Now I have this on the good authority of Jesus Christ,
in His Olivet discourse, and that unless you believe
Jesus is heretical, then you have to answer to Him
for identifying my position as heretical, in that it is
the exact same position which He laid out! I would
suggest that you are treading on very thin ice when
it comes to presenting your Dispensational Dogma,
and then claim that Jesus is heretical! You do not
owe me an apology, as much as you owe Jesus
an apology!
Aw gee Tom... Now you'll never get that apology! :)
--
"If something in science suddenly becomes so sacrosanct
that you can't question it, then it ceases to be science",
he said. "And I really think that's what's become of
Darwinism." - Roger DeHart
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