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14 Oct 2006 01:49:09 PM |
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@ EXPECTING THE MESSIAH IN 2011 AD @ |
This is the next best prediction for the coming of the Messiah.
The only way to make a reliable prediction is to use the Bible
numbers . A time frame has to be established that will allow us
to apply the Bible to our times .
How can we know that the Apocalypse was not written to the
7 churches that existed at that time as the things - mentioned
in the book -were going to take place soon .
How "soon " is soon ?
I am using the past biblical events and the dates releted to them
to construe the end-time timeline.
607 BC - 587 BC = 20 years
607 BC - The beginning of the destruction of Israel
587 BC - The Destruction of Jerusalem Temple
29 AD- Jesus began his mission
33 AD - Jesus died in the middle of the 7 year period
29 AD- 33 AD- 36 AD
36 AD -Gentiles admitted to the church
70 AD- The destruction of the Jewish Temple
96 AD- The Revelation to John on the Isle of Patmos
A 10-year period ( "10 days " ) - Revelation 2.10
96 AD - 106 AD
36 AD - 70 AD - 106 AD
34 years 36 years
So , we have 20 years ,7 years,34 years ,36 years
2011 AD - 20 years = 1991 AD
1991 AD - 7 years = 1984 AD
1984 AD - 34 years = 1950 AD
1950 AD - 36 years = 1914 AD
God Yahweh , God of the Bible , chose those believers
that are positively related to the above-mentioned dates to be
His true servants.
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| User: "Fred Hall" |
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| Title: Re: @ EXPECTING THE MESSIAH IN 2011 AD @ |
14 Oct 2006 04:06:51 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160851748.988688.3600@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
This is the next best prediction for the coming of the Messiah.
The only way to make a reliable prediction is to use the Bible
numbers . A time frame has to be established that will allow us
to apply the Bible to our times .
How can we know that the Apocalypse was not written to the
7 churches that existed at that time as the things - mentioned
in the book -were going to take place soon .
How "soon " is soon ?
I am using the past biblical events and the dates releted to them
to construe the end-time timeline.
607 BC - 587 BC = 20 years
607 BC - The beginning of the destruction of Israel
587 BC - The Destruction of Jerusalem Temple
29 AD- Jesus began his mission
33 AD - Jesus died in the middle of the 7 year period
29 AD- 33 AD- 36 AD
36 AD -Gentiles admitted to the church
70 AD- The destruction of the Jewish Temple
96 AD- The Revelation to John on the Isle of Patmos
A 10-year period ( "10 days " ) - Revelation 2.10
96 AD - 106 AD
36 AD - 70 AD - 106 AD
34 years 36 years
So , we have 20 years ,7 years,34 years ,36 years
2011 AD - 20 years = 1991 AD
1991 AD - 7 years = 1984 AD
1984 AD - 34 years = 1950 AD
1950 AD - 36 years = 1914 AD
God Yahweh , God of the Bible , chose those believers
that are positively related to the above-mentioned dates to be
His true servants.
Where ya been, ol' drunk? In county jail for public intoxication?
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| User: "" |
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14 Oct 2006 06:41:57 PM |
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If you want to know check options and see the posts by the same
author and may be you will be able to see that I have been publishing
many posts on Polish newsgroup :
pl.soc.religia
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| User: "Juan Viejo" |
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| Title: Re: @ EXPECTING THE MESSIAH IN 2011 AD @ |
18 Oct 2006 01:22:07 AM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160869317.235607.191020@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
If you want to know check options and see the posts by the same
author and may be you will be able to see that I have been publishing
many posts on Polish newsgroup :
pl.soc.religia
I thought Polish jokes had fallen out of favor. But it seems we have a
living one on this newsgroup.
JV
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| User: "Flushing Express" |
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| Title: Re: @ EXPECTING THE MESSIAH IN 2011 AD @ |
14 Oct 2006 05:49:19 PM |
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"Fred Hall" <fkhall@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:egrjhd$icm$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160851748.988688.3600@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
This is the next best prediction for the coming of the Messiah.
The only way to make a reliable prediction is to use the Bible
numbers . A time frame has to be established that will allow us
to apply the Bible to our times .
How can we know that the Apocalypse was not written to the
7 churches that existed at that time as the things - mentioned
in the book -were going to take place soon .
How "soon " is soon ?
I am using the past biblical events and the dates releted to them
to construe the end-time timeline.
607 BC - 587 BC = 20 years
607 BC - The beginning of the destruction of Israel
587 BC - The Destruction of Jerusalem Temple
29 AD- Jesus began his mission
33 AD - Jesus died in the middle of the 7 year period
29 AD- 33 AD- 36 AD
36 AD -Gentiles admitted to the church
70 AD- The destruction of the Jewish Temple
96 AD- The Revelation to John on the Isle of Patmos
A 10-year period ( "10 days " ) - Revelation 2.10
96 AD - 106 AD
36 AD - 70 AD - 106 AD
34 years 36 years
So , we have 20 years ,7 years,34 years ,36 years
2011 AD - 20 years = 1991 AD
1991 AD - 7 years = 1984 AD
1984 AD - 34 years = 1950 AD
1950 AD - 36 years = 1914 AD
God Yahweh , God of the Bible , chose those believers
that are positively related to the above-mentioned dates to be
His true servants.
Where ya been, ol' drunk? In county jail for public intoxication?
He was probably holed up figuring out all new equations to make yet another
100% WRONG prediction. That takes time you know. ;-)
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Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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| User: "le ténébreux" |
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| Title: Re: @ EXPECTING THE MESSIAH IN 2011 AD @ |
15 Oct 2006 05:01:54 AM |
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"OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
The only way to make a reliable prediction is to use the Bible
numbers .
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607 BC
Can you show me where this number is found in the Bible?
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?fiBT5GJs6yB+?=" |
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15 Oct 2006 08:16:43 AM |
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"le ténébreux" <prince.d'aquitaine@tour.abolie> wrote in message
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"OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
The only way to make a reliable prediction is to use the Bible
numbers .
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607 BC
Can you show me where this number is found in the Bible?
After a few Vodkas he sees it without a problem. It's doubtful you'll see
it though.
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| User: "" |
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17 Oct 2006 11:01:06 PM |
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Can you show me where this number is found in the Bible?
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The 70 weeks of Daniel 9.24 can be applied to far future and
also can be projected into the far-distant future.
I understood the 70 weeks in this far-distant aspect in 1984 AD.
It was not just a sheer coincidence I believed God had a plan
for me at that time.
70 weeks can be like :
7 Times 70 days
7 Times takes another meaning as a special
term and that is why it must be seperated from the rest 70 days.
70 weeks= " 7 Times " ( which is a known number 2520 years)
70 days = 70 years
70 weeks= 2520 years + 70 years
It was the year 1984 AD when the understanding came .
1984 AD - 70 years = 1914 AD
1914 AD - 2520 years = 607 BC
So , I know that the date 607 BC must be a correct date for the
beginning of the destruction of Israel.
By studying the Bible and God's gudiadance we can
decipher the historic dates that are not found directly in the Bible
but by strenuous efforts.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: @ EXPECTING THE MESSIAH IN 2011 AD @ |
15 Oct 2006 06:53:12 PM |
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OH, NOT AGAIN!
They have been predicting it for more than two millennia!
But in fact the "messiah" some Christians are expecting is
only Christos, the Bible's imaginary second deity! -- L.
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| User: "Chellie" |
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| Title: Re: @ EXPECTING THE MESSIAH IN 2011 AD @ |
18 Oct 2006 12:29:05 AM |
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wrote:
This is the next best prediction for the coming of the Messiah.
The only way to make a reliable prediction is to use the Bible
numbers . A time frame has to be established that will allow us
to apply the Bible to our times .
How can we know that the Apocalypse was not written to the
7 churches that existed at that time as the things - mentioned
in the book -were going to take place soon .
How "soon " is soon ?
I am using the past biblical events and the dates releted to them
to construe the end-time timeline.
607 BC - 587 BC = 20 years
607 BC - The beginning of the destruction of Israel
587 BC - The Destruction of Jerusalem Temple
29 AD- Jesus began his mission
33 AD - Jesus died in the middle of the 7 year period
29 AD- 33 AD- 36 AD
36 AD -Gentiles admitted to the church
70 AD- The destruction of the Jewish Temple
96 AD- The Revelation to John on the Isle of Patmos
A 10-year period ( "10 days " ) - Revelation 2.10
96 AD - 106 AD
36 AD - 70 AD - 106 AD
34 years 36 years
So , we have 20 years ,7 years,34 years ,36 years
2011 AD - 20 years = 1991 AD
1991 AD - 7 years = 1984 AD
1984 AD - 34 years = 1950 AD
1950 AD - 36 years = 1914 AD
God Yahweh , God of the Bible , chose those believers
that are positively related to the above-mentioned dates to be
His true servants.
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I am reading this and there's no Bible. Just alot of speculation. Jesus
told His disciples that "no man would know the hour". I mean even the
angels don't know and they are in Heaven so what makes man think he
knows?
Matthew 24:36-37
(36) But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of
heaven, but my Father only.
(37) But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son
of man be.
Just like Noah was warning the people it was going to rain and since
they never saw rain, just mist/dew, they didn't believe him. But it did
rain... and rain and rain and rain...
Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ,
Chellie
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| User: "Flushing Express" |
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| Title: Re: @ EXPECTING THE MESSIAH IN 2011 AD @ |
19 Oct 2006 06:26:17 PM |
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"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1161149345.726348.178200@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Just like Noah was warning the people it was going to rain and since
they never saw rain, just mist/dew, they didn't believe him. But it did
rain... and rain and rain and rain...
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood.
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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19 Oct 2006 07:10:20 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:26:17 -0500, "Flushing Express"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood.
There is plenty of it, and it is irrefragable ..
"It is obvious that a worldwide flood must have had worldwide geologic
effects .. Such a flood would have destroyed every earlier physiographic
feature on or near the earth's surface, redepositing the eroded materials
all over the world in stratified sedimentary rocks of the earth's crust.
'Not only do such sedimentary rocks abound all over the world, but they give
much evidence of having been formed by rapid and continuous depositional
processes. Each individual stratum is a distinct sedimentary unit and, in
most formations. can be shown by hydraulic analysis to have been formed
within a few minutes time. Further,ore, it can be shown that within a
series of 'conformable' strata, each subsequent stratum began to be
deposited immediately after the preceding one. When the strata above and
below a given interface are not conformable (such a surface is called an
unconformity by geologists) then a significant time gap is indicated.
However since there are no worldwide unconformities, one can always find a
place at which any given formation does grade conformably and imperceptibly
into another above it, without a time gap.
'The obvious conclusion from such syllogistic reasoning is that, since each
unit in the geologic column was formed rapidly, and since each unit was
followed immediately by another unit above it, therefore the whole column
was formed rapidly. Thus the geologic evidence demands a catastrophic
rather than a uniformitarian explanation. For example, if it is assumed
that the average thickness of the sedimentary rocks is about one mile, and
the average rate of deposition during flooding conditions is one inch of
compacted sediment every five minutes, then it would only take 220 days to
form the entire column.
'The existence of fossils in these sedimentary deposits is further evidence
that they were formed rapidly."
Henry Morris
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: @ EXPECTING THE MESSIAH IN 2011 AD @ - HOW SAD! |
20 Oct 2006 06:28:21 PM |
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George Peatty wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:26:17 -0500, "Flushing Express"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood.
There is plenty of it, and it is irrefragable ..
"It is obvious that a worldwide flood must have had worldwide geologic
effects .. Such a flood would have destroyed every earlier physiographic
feature on or near the earth's surface, redepositing the eroded materials
all over the world in stratified sedimentary rocks of the earth's crust.
'Not only do such sedimentary rocks abound all over the world, but they give
much evidence of having been formed by rapid and continuous depositional
processes. Each individual stratum is a distinct sedimentary unit and, in
most formations. can be shown by hydraulic analysis to have been formed
within a few minutes time. Further,ore, it can be shown that within a
series of 'conformable' strata, each subsequent stratum began to be
deposited immediately after the preceding one. When the strata above and
below a given interface are not conformable (such a surface is called an
unconformity by geologists) then a significant time gap is indicated.
However since there are no worldwide unconformities, one can always find a
place at which any given formation does grade conformably and imperceptibly
into another above it, without a time gap.
'The obvious conclusion from such syllogistic reasoning is that, since each
unit in the geologic column was formed rapidly, and since each unit was
followed immediately by another unit above it, therefore the whole column
was formed rapidly. Thus the geologic evidence demands a catastrophic
rather than a uniformitarian explanation. For example, if it is assumed
that the average thickness of the sedimentary rocks is about one mile, and
the average rate of deposition during flooding conditions is one inch of
compacted sediment every five minutes, then it would only take 220 days to
form the entire column.
'The existence of fossils in these sedimentary deposits is further evidence
that they were formed rapidly."
Henry Morris
===>Sadly, you cite this most ridiculous, totally asinine attempt at
"proving" an ancient fairy tale about a 40-day rain, as your "evidence".
Have you heard of mental retardation?
People like that belong in the prehistoric periods, not in the 21st
Century! -- L.
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| User: "Giant Waffle" |
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20 Oct 2006 12:23:53 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:26:17 -0500, while bungee jumping,
"Flushing Express" <invalid@invalid.invalid> shouted thusly:
"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1161149345.726348.178200@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Just like Noah was warning the people it was going to rain and since
they never saw rain, just mist/dew, they didn't believe him. But it did
rain... and rain and rain and rain...
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood.
No, none at all. They were all local. All of them,
all the way around the globe. Each and every one
of them.
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Giant Waffle
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My heart rejoices in the Lord; My horn is exalted in the Lord.
I smile at my enemies, because I rejoice in Your salvation.
- 1 Samuel 2:1
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| User: "Giant Waffle" |
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14 Oct 2006 06:52:30 PM |
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On 14 Oct 2006 11:49:09 -0700, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com>
spake thusly:
This is the next best [failed] prediction for the coming of the Messiah.
You're right. :)
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Giant Waffle
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My heart rejoices in the Lord; My horn is exalted in the Lord.
I smile at my enemies, because I rejoice in Your salvation.
- 1 Samuel 2:1
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