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24 Nov 2006 10:00:17 AM |
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# GOD DETERMINES TIMES FOR ANTICHRIST # |
Using numbers based on God's name 28 and 26 and also
666 we can determine the times for the antichrist.
Using 666 we can decode the era of the antichrist
666 = 6+6+6 =18
18 reversed when read in Hebrew is 81
81 BC - 18 = 63 BC
63 BC - 28 or 26 = 37 BC - 35 BC
The average of 28 and 26 is 27
63 BC - 27 = 36 BC
36 BC - 18 = 18 BC
18 BC - 29 AD = 46 years - John 2,20
46 years this temple was being built and you say you can rebuild it
in three days
47 AD - 65 AD = 18 years for Paul the Apostle
70 AD - 98 AD = 28 years for John the Apostle
18 + 28 = 46 years
81 BC + 2000 years = 1920 AD
1920 AD + 18 years = 1938 AD- The tribulation of the Jews began
it lasted to 1945 AD
1920 AD + 27 or 28 years = 1947 AD-1948 AD- Israel became a nation
- a fig tree that will be rejected by God.
1948 AD + 18 years = 1966 AD
1966 AD + 18 years = 1984 AD
1984 AD + 27 years = 2011 AD
Under the cover of posittive numbers linked to God and His true
servants the antichrist uses deception - religion to deceive the
nations.
His end may come in 2011 AD.
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| User: "weight gain 2000" |
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| Title: Re: # GOD DETERMINES TIMES FOR ANTICHRIST # |
24 Nov 2006 07:24:46 PM |
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wrote:
Using numbers based on God's name 28 and 26 and also
666 we can determine the times for the antichrist.
Using 666 we can decode the era of the antichrist
666 = 6+6+6 =18
No you can't. Where's your theory? Where's your model? What are
your axioms? Why not -6-6-6 = -18? Why not 6*6*6 = 216? Why not
(6/6)/6 = 1/6? Why not 6/(6/6)=6?
18 reversed when read in Hebrew is 81
Who sais you can do that? What are you basing this on?
81 BC - 18 = 63 BC
63 BC - 28 or 26 = 37 BC - 35 BC
The average of 28 and 26 is 27
63 BC - 27 = 36 BC
36 BC - 18 = 18 BC
18 BC - 29 AD = 46 years - John 2,20
46 years this temple was being built and you say you can
rebuild it in three days
47 AD - 65 AD = 18 years for Paul the Apostle
70 AD - 98 AD = 28 years for John the Apostle
18 + 28 = 46 years
Where's Mark the Apostle? Where's Matthew the Apostle? By what
authority you have omitted them?
81 BC + 2000 years = 1920 AD
1920 AD + 18 years = 1938 AD- The tribulation of the Jews began
it lasted to 1945 AD
1920 AD + 27 or 28 years = 1947 AD-1948 AD- Israel became a
nation
- a fig tree that will be rejected by God.
1948 AD + 18 years = 1966 AD
1966 AD + 18 years = 1984 AD
1984 AD + 27 years = 2011 AD
Under the cover of posittive numbers linked to God and His true
servants the antichrist uses deception - religion to deceive
the nations.
His end may come in 2011 AD.
Oh. Have you any idea how many dates were proposed for the end?
Have a go: http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm
And this site comes from a god-person believer!
How stupid are you? (Actually your post clearly answers this:
extremely - a bit stupider and you'll die!)
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wg2k - beefcake!
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| User: "" |
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24 Nov 2006 09:55:39 PM |
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weight gain 2000 wrote:
Who sais you can do that? What are you basing this on?
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The Hebrew is read from right to left and this can be superimposed
on our numbers.
There are dates 106 AD and then I have 119 AD and 150 AD.
119 AD =Psalm 119 150 AD =Psalm 150
106 AD - 150 AD = 44 years
I still have to use God's numbers to cover times.
There is a shortened form of God's name : YAH ( JAH )
HalleluYAH !
The full name has 10,5,6,5 = 26
YAH is a half of God's name : 13
13 read from right to left is like 31 .
106 AD + 13 years = 119 AD
119 AD + 31 years = 150 AD
By using God's numbers I can know the Bible is from God and important
things occur according God's timetable.
Why Apostle Paul and Apostle John ?
Because other calculations led me to the fact we are in the end times.
And we had John Paul II as a pope - adversary of the True Gospel.
So it fits to pick " John Paul " in the ancient biblical times and
also we have a replica of that John Paul in our times in a positive
sense .
In the negative sense we had a pope - John Paul II
Does negative John Paul II was covered in God's plan ?
1920 AD + 18 years = 1938 AD + 10 years = 1948 AD
1948 AD + 18 years = 1966 AD
1966 AD + 18 years = 1984 AD
Note: 10 + 18 = 28
1984 AD + 21 years = 2005 AD
pope John Paul II died in 2005 AD
21 years can be considered as "7 Times"
1+2+3+4+5+6 = 21
7 Times 1000 years = 7000 years="7 Times" + 1000 years
"7 times "= 6000 years= 6 days ; if one day as 1000 years - 2 Peter 3.8
That is why 1+2+3+4+5+6
You can notice I am using numbers : 28,26,13,31,10,18 and
"7 Times ".
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| User: "weight gain 2000" |
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| Title: Re: Using God's favorite numbers we can decode many things |
25 Nov 2006 06:38:17 AM |
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wrote:
weight gain 2000 wrote:
Who sais you can do that? What are you basing this on?
[snip] number drivel [/snip]
Boy, oh, boy. Ok, so you sure are you that the end is in 2011?
This is 4,5 years from now. This can be tested. I'm willing to
bet all my belongings (and everything else you would want) that
the wolrd is not going to end then. What about you? Are you
ready to bet that if the world does not in fact end, you'll give
me all your belongings? And kneel before me and blow me? And
give me your wife (if applicable) to blow me? I also would like
to see your wife gang-fucked by 9 other guys.
Of course, I would need an exact date or an exact statement about
the end but this could be arranged with a bunch of legalese and
two lawyers.
Wanna bet? What have you got to lose?
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wg2k - beefcake!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Betting on the prediction of the end of the world in 2011 AD |
25 Nov 2006 10:56:12 AM |
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To any disagreeing reader,
If God YAHWEH gave the exact date to me ,then, I would be 100%
sure the
prediction would come true .But God doesn't give any more revelations
since He gave us the Bible.
So keep this in mind and don't be stubborn looking for a cure that
I will give you a prediction you wish to have .
I wrote about that already crystal clear .
The predictions are based on the understanding of the Bible.
And each person must study the Bible and as much he or she is
convinced in the prediction I am giving it is their matter.
Don't make fun of you with betting you should know that a true
christian avoids betting like fire ! The gambling is a sin !
So don't try to bet with me on the prediction !
Regardless of the prediction I have plenty things to give away and yet
I am not doing so basically as I don't have time to do so !
Also why give away material things to people in such a urgent time
and teach them materialism while their true need is to know God through
the Bible and my teachings . By teaching about the Bible I am doing
more than I would give away all of my possessions.
You have to see the real need of mankind . The material things are
not so important.
Why you keep now so many things give them away to the poor
you don't teach about God ,right ? So do something good for others.
I don't need a penny or anything you have at home and I don't
want a bit of your life -the way you live ! I want to be as I am and
I want to have what I want to have . I am not interested in
any of your possessions even I were 100% certain the end will
come in 2011 AD !
You should know very well if you read my post carefully that
the prediction of the end are not an absolute certainty as there might
be more dates God has in His plan to make it happen.
God has the date 2011 AD as He had the dates 1991 AD,1994 AD,
1999 AD,2000 AD,2001 AD,2004 AD,2005 AD to choose from !
There are more dates God may have in His timetable :
2017 AD,2018 AD,2029 AD,2034 AD and some more .
So the issue here is to find out what dates God may have in store
and go by each one in a proper order.
I will not make a prediction for 2034 AD if there an earlier possible
date
like 2011 AD. Why to predict the year 2034 AD if the world may end
in 2011 AD ?!
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| User: "weight gain 2000" |
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| Title: Re: Betting on the prediction of the end of the world in 2011 AD |
25 Nov 2006 02:04:55 PM |
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wrote:
To any disagreeing reader,
If God YAHWEH gave the exact date to me ,then, I would be
100%
sure the
prediction would come true .But God doesn't give any more
revelations since He gave us the Bible.
So keep this in mind and don't be stubborn looking for a cure
that
I will give you a prediction you wish to have .
I wrote about that already crystal clear .
The predictions are based on the understanding of the Bible.
And each person must study the Bible and as much he or she is
convinced in the prediction I am giving it is their matter.
Ok. So you agree with me that your drivel is completely
unscientific, based on your perception, totally biased and
utterly useless. You are just looking for people gullible enough
to buy it. Understood.
Regardless of the prediction I have plenty things to give away
and yet
I am not doing so basically as I don't have time to do so !
Now would be a great time to remind you of what jesus supposedly
said:
[Matthew 18:18-22]
18. And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what
shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19. And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is
good, save one, that is, God.
20. Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not
kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father
and thy mother.
21. And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.
22. Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet
lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute
unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come,
follow me.
Pay real attention to Matthew 18:22. SELL ALL THAT THOU HAST, AND
DISTRIBUTE UNTO THE POOR.
Quick! You only have 4,5 years left! (And I could really use some
extra $$$)
Also why give away material things to people in such a urgent
time
and teach them materialism while their true need is to know God
through the Bible and my teachings .
Because if you don't you're headed for HELL!
By teaching about the
Bible I am doing more than I would give away all of my
possessions. You have to see the real need of mankind . The
material things are not so important.
They are to a starving kid, she can make much more use of some
dollars to buy milk than your teachings!
You should know very well if you read my post carefully that
the prediction of the end are not an absolute certainty as
there might be more dates God has in His plan to make it
happen.
God has the date 2011 AD as He had the dates 1991 AD,1994 AD,
1999 AD,2000 AD,2001 AD,2004 AD,2005 AD to choose from !
There are more dates God may have in His timetable :
2017 AD,2018 AD,2029 AD,2034 AD and some more .
So the issue here is to find out what dates God may have in
store
and go by each one in a proper order.
I will not make a prediction for 2034 AD if there an earlier
possible date
like 2011 AD. Why to predict the year 2034 AD if the world may
end in 2011 AD ?!
Yeah, yeah, right. But remember: if you don't give, it's eternal
torture for you, I'm afraid. I'm trying to save your soul. But
you are not listening! Please listen! Please give me some money!
Praise the lord!
I'm poor. I need your money! I will be in better shape to hear
and understand your teachings (I wont have to worry about duying
of starvation anymore) and you'll be on the highway express to
heaven! Why wait?
Please! The lord has warned you!!!!!!!
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wg2k - beefcake!
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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| Title: Re: Betting on the prediction of the end of the world in 2011 AD |
25 Nov 2006 11:14:48 AM |
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On 25 Nov 2006 08:56:12 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
But God doesn't give any more revelations since He gave us the Bible.
That has got to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.
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| User: "" |
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25 Nov 2006 10:03:07 PM |
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That has got to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.
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Are you in the USA ? If,yes . Have you ever heard about these two
known preachers on radio ?
Harold Camping with his Open Forum Program from
Family Radio Stations ,Inc
and Hank Hanegraaff from Christian Research Institute
Call them and tell them my point and your point.
I say again that once the Bible was completed
God doesn't give any more revelations.
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| User: "The Nolalu Barn Owl gordie@nolalu.on.ca" |
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26 Nov 2006 07:37:21 AM |
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On 25 Nov 2006 20:03:07 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
That has got to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.
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Are you in the USA ? If,yes . Have you ever heard about these two
known preachers on radio ?
Harold Camping with his Open Forum Program from
Family Radio Stations ,Inc
and Hank Hanegraaff from Christian Research Institute
Call them and tell them my point and your point.
I say again that once the Bible was completed
God doesn't give any more revelations.
1994
Harold Camping in his book "Are You Ready?" predicted the Lord's
return in Sept 1994. The book was full of numerology that added up to
1994 as the date of Christ's return.
Yer in good company. False prophets all.
http://tinyurl.com/dkwt5
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Gordie
"The Catholic Faith alone produces miracles, which are never seen
among heretics. Plants of this sort cannot grow in a soil cursed by
God; they can take root only in that Church where the True Faith is
professed"
http://olrl.org/lives/stpaul.shtml
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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| Title: Re: Betting on the prediction of the end of the world in 2011 AD |
25 Nov 2006 01:23:22 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:14:48 GMT, Qadosh Stephanos
<qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca> wrote:
But God doesn't give any more revelations since He gave us the Bible.
That has got to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.
Well, pardon me for being obtuse, but I really don't see why .. Most
Christians accept that there has been no new revelation since the first
century AD. If you believe that, it's a simple conclusion that Divine
revelation has ended. It will resume in the Kingdom, but I don't see any
possibility for further revelation before the end of the Age of Grace. I
can't even fathom what topics additional revelation might address ..
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| User: "Mike" |
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25 Nov 2006 04:31:35 PM |
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"George Peatty" <peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote in message
news:3r5hm2hlff7nkv2qi1hntr855jbv7jakle@4ax.com...
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:14:48 GMT, Qadosh Stephanos
<qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca> wrote:
But God doesn't give any more revelations since He gave us the Bible.
That has got to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.
Well, pardon me for being obtuse, but I really don't see why .. Most
Christians accept that there has been no new revelation since the first
century AD. If you believe that, it's a simple conclusion that Divine
revelation has ended. It will resume in the Kingdom, but I don't see any
possibility for further revelation before the end of the Age of Grace. I
can't even fathom what topics additional revelation might address ..
really?..... Is that what you think?......
Then have a look at this website:
http://www.sirus.com/users/mjake/page49.html
The next revelation is the explanation for it all. So far we were given
facts recorded as history in the bible, but not much REASON to believe them
except that tenacity of the early witnesses. But now the meaning and purpose
of it all is become ever more clear.
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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| Title: Re: Betting on the prediction of the end of the world in 2011 AD |
25 Nov 2006 03:23:11 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:23:22 -0500, George Peatty
<peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:14:48 GMT, Qadosh Stephanos
<qadosh.stephanos@yahoo.ca> wrote:
But God doesn't give any more revelations since He gave us the Bible.
That has got to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.
Well, pardon me for being obtuse, but I really don't see why .. Most
Christians accept that there has been no new revelation since the first
century AD. If you believe that, it's a simple conclusion that Divine
revelation has ended. It will resume in the Kingdom, but I don't see any
possibility for further revelation before the end of the Age of Grace. I
can't even fathom what topics additional revelation might address ..
I guess that means you have no unity with God.
By the way the Bible was published in 1611 AD.
Books prior to that were burned by the mother.
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| User: "old man joe" |
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24 Nov 2006 12:27:11 PM |
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On 24 Nov 2006 08:00:17 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
Using numbers based on God's name 28 and 26 and also
666 we can determine the times for the antichrist.
Using 666 we can decode the era of the antichrist
666 = 6+6+6 =18
18 reversed when read in Hebrew is 81
81 BC - 18 = 63 BC
63 BC - 28 or 26 = 37 BC - 35 BC
The average of 28 and 26 is 27
63 BC - 27 = 36 BC
36 BC - 18 = 18 BC
18 BC - 29 AD = 46 years - John 2,20
46 years this temple was being built and you say you can rebuild it
in three days
47 AD - 65 AD = 18 years for Paul the Apostle
70 AD - 98 AD = 28 years for John the Apostle
18 + 28 = 46 years
81 BC + 2000 years = 1920 AD
1920 AD + 18 years = 1938 AD- The tribulation of the Jews began
it lasted to 1945 AD
1920 AD + 27 or 28 years = 1947 AD-1948 AD- Israel became a nation
- a fig tree that will be rejected by God.
1948 AD + 18 years = 1966 AD
1966 AD + 18 years = 1984 AD
1984 AD + 27 years = 2011 AD
Under the cover of posittive numbers linked to God and His true
servants the antichrist uses deception - religion to deceive the
nations.
His end may come in 2011 AD.
poor exegesis.
the number of his name is the " Latin Kingdom ".
nowhere does Revelation say to add that number of 666 into any other
number.
furthermore, the calander is we have in inaccurate.
' linked to God and His true servants ' ? who might that be ?
your denomination ?
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| User: "" |
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24 Nov 2006 09:19:50 PM |
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And they are linked to His name YAHWEH - YHWH
and Pslam 119 is a clue .
You can see those four consonants in order as 10th,5th,6th,5th
letters.
10+5+6+5 = 26
The Hebrew YHWH seems to resemble i77i77
one time 77 and one time 77 which is 28 .
The 10th letter on a scale covers 2 x 7 Times.
1x2x3x4x5x6x7= 5040= 2x3x4x5x6x7
7x8x9x10=5040
1+2+3+4+5+6+7=28
7 times = 28
216 is for 6x6x6
3 BC - 29 AD - 36 AD - 106 AD = 108 years
1883 AD - 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD = 108 years
216 = 6x6x6 = "666" = 6+6+6 =18
Using 28,26 and 18 we can decode the great times of the true
Christianity .
8 BC was the year of annoucement of Jesus Christ
8 BC + 18 years = 11 AD
11 AD- Jesus as a 12-year old began teaching
in the temple in Jerusalem - Luke 2.42
11 AD + 18 years = 29 AD
29 AD -Jesus begins his mission-Luke 3.23
29 AD + 18 years = 47 AD
47 AD - Apostle Paul's era begins and lasts 18 years to 65 AD.
65 AD - 70 AD = 5 years that is allowed just as we have 7 BC and 2 BC
70 AD - Apostle John's era begins ending with 98 AD.
96 AD - The last book of the Bible is given
98 AD - The last gospel of the New Testament
70 AD + 26 years = 96 AD
70 AD + 28 years = 98 AD
Revelation 2.10 about 10 days = 10 years
96 AD + 10 years = 106 AD
70 AD + 18 years + 18 years = 106 AD
8 BC - 11 AD - 29 AD - 36 AD - 106 AD
1878 AD - 1896 AD - 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD
11 AD - when Jesus first started preaching in the temple - 2.42
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?fiBT5GJs6yB+?=" |
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24 Nov 2006 10:57:02 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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So what new date have you come up with that is also 100% WRONG?
And they are linked to His name YAHWEH - YHWH
and Pslam 119 is a clue .
You can see those four consonants in order as 10th,5th,6th,5th
snip
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SA......
The JWs showed their true colors
here by posting people's personal information in hopes someone sicker than
there are "takes care of the problem" and silences the person. There is no
other reason to post personal information on Usenet.
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?fiBT5GJs6yB+?=" |
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24 Nov 2006 03:43:00 PM |
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"old man joe" <not@home.com> wrote in message
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On 24 Nov 2006 08:00:17 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
Using numbers based on God's name 28 and 26 and also
666 we can determine the times for the antichrist.
' linked to God and His true servants ' ? who might that be ?
your denomination ?
Yep! OBVES refuses to join the Watchtower Society and serve their GB but
claims they have the "true religion" because they guessed the dates of
Armageddon 100% incorrectly 100% of the time. ;-)
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SA....
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952 vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and eating
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
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24 Nov 2006 08:49:50 PM |
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And you read many of them but you still insist in your thinking .
Look because of the date 1914 AD ( it was a failure in the eyes of
the world ) I see the International Bible Students as a legitimate
christian
denomination that began the restoration of the exinct original
christianity.
No other christian group is in view .
The end times had to have begun long time ago but not earlier than
1878 AD according to my calculations based on the Bible.
Try to put some another christian group to challenge my conclusion .
Or try to put forth another date in place of the 1914 AD and we shall
see
what will happen.
There is also a timeline that reflects the times when Christ and first
christianity existed.
81 BC has an equivalent and it is the year 1920 AD.
The basic rule here is a period of 2000 years.
63 BC = 1938 AD 35 BC = 1966 AD
The basic timeline is :
7 BC - 2 BC - 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD - 70 AD - 106 AD
To duplicate this timeline there is only one solution in my view.
1879 AD - 1884 AD - 1914 AD -1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD
There must be a reversal of 7 and 70 years .That is why we have
1984 AD -1991 AD; not 1914 AD - 1921 AD.
1984 AD corresponds to the year 36 AD.
1950 AD = 70 AD
3.5 times ------ 1988 AD - 3.5 times
3500 years - 1988 AD - 3.5 years
1513 BC 1988 AD 1991 AD
1723 BC 1988 AD 2011 AD -2012 AD
7 Times 7 Times
210 years + 3500 years + 3.5 years + 20 or 21 years
Check the chronology given by the Watchtower as to the dates:
1728 BC , 1513 BC,2 BC
1728 BC - 1723 BC = 5 years
7 BC - 2 BC = 5 years
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?fiBT5GJs6yB+?=" |
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24 Nov 2006 10:55:58 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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And you read many of them but you still insist in your thinking .
All your dates for Armageddon have been 100% WRONG 100% of the time and I'm
wrong on my thinking? Do you ever do anthing besides try and figure out the
impossible? If dear old Jesus didn't know the day when god slaughters
mankind how can you?
The date you come up with are meaningless. Everyone has told you this many,
many times. Get a clue.........
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SA.......
Yep, the sleazebags at the WTS added another 120 years to 1914. What a
hoot! :-D The poor misled JWs who were waiting for 1975 got the shaft,
then 2000, shafted again... now this. What happened to all their promised
and underlined scripture proving the generation who saw 1914 would not pass
away before "the end of this system of things?" And they claim a clear
direct line to Jehovah!!!
How can any rational person be so gullible as to swallow this obvious male
bovine excreta? This GB vomit....
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