| Topic: |
Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"Pastor Dave" |
| Date: |
30 Dec 2007 08:15:11 AM |
| Object: |
@ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
You love to focus on what everyone else did to Vera,
whether they did anything or not! Where in your post
does it reflect the possibility that Vera is at fault for
what has transpired over this time? It is nowhere
to be found!
According to you, only Vera was wronged, since that's
all your post mentions and either the person didn't
apologize, or didn't do it well enough and what Vera's
doing isn't bad, because hey, "it's human", right Rod?
The fact is, Vera viciously attacks people that disagree
with her and you are in bed with her (figuratively) and
don't much care about truth! And any wrongs that
were done to her, which were minor and were
responses, not attacks, were apologized for and Vera
simply doesn't give a damn!
The truth is, it is up TO VERA to stop VERA'S BEHAVIOR!!!
It is not up to anyone else to kneel before her and kiss her
***** for her and that is exactly what she wants!
If Vera cannot control Vera, then blame Vera, not all
of the other people she keeps constantly attacking,
even after they had written her off and kill filed her!
You're a fake, Rod! You're a liar! And you have been
exposed for what you are!
--
In a company of literary gentlemen, Daniel Webster
was asked if he could comprehend how Jesus Christ
could be both God and man. "No, sir," he replied,
and added, "I should be ashamed to acknowledge Him
as my Savior if I could comprehend Him. If I could
comprehend Him, He could be no greater than myself.
Such is my sense of sin, and consciousness of my
inability to save myself, that I feel I need a
superhuman Savior, one so great and glorious that
I cannot comprehend Him."
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| User: "Di" |
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| Title: Re: @ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
30 Dec 2007 11:46:31 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com...
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
Correct !!!
You love to focus on what everyone else did to Vera,
whether they did anything or not! Where in your post
does it reflect the possibility that Vera is at fault for
what has transpired over this time? It is nowhere
to be found!
Yes I feel he did this too.
According to you, only Vera was wronged, since that's
all your post mentions and either the person didn't
apologize, or didn't do it well enough and what Vera's
doing isn't bad, because hey, "it's human", right Rod?
I noticed that too that is why I stopped posting about it. It was always my
fault in his eyes.
The fact is, Vera viciously attacks people that disagree
with her and you are in bed with her (figuratively) and
don't much care about truth! And any wrongs that
were done to her, which were minor and were
responses, not attacks, were apologized for and Vera
simply doesn't give a damn!
Correct
The truth is, it is up TO VERA to stop VERA'S BEHAVIOR!!!
It is not up to anyone else to kneel before her and kiss her
***** for her and that is exactly what she wants!
Correct
If Vera cannot control Vera, then blame Vera, not all
of the other people she keeps constantly attacking,
Absolutely Amen !
even after they had written her off and kill filed her!
You're a fake, Rod! You're a liar! And you have been
exposed for what you are!
I don't know he is a fake or liar however what you said in all the above
seems so to me too.
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| User: "Rod" |
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| Title: Re: @ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
30 Dec 2007 01:45:23 PM |
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Di wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com...
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
Correct !!!
If what I'm seeing now is what I would have viewed back
then, it isn't wonder that Vera was angry.
You love to focus on what everyone else did to Vera,
whether they did anything or not!
Where in your post
does it reflect the possibility that Vera is at fault for
what has transpired over this time? It is nowhere
to be found!
Yes I feel he did this too.
I was speaking to you at the time. Do I deal with Vera's feelings
when I talk with Di ? I was talking with you, we will deal with you.
According to you, only Vera was wronged, since that's
all your post mentions and either the person didn't
apologize, or didn't do it well enough and what Vera's
doing isn't bad, because hey, "it's human", right Rod?
I noticed that too that is why I stopped posting about it. It was always my
fault in his eyes.
Has it occurred to you that YOU are the one that was complaining about
how Vera treated YOU and WHY ??? I was raising possibilities because
I always look to myself as the root cause of my problems first, not the
other person. Deal with yourself first, then let Vera deal with vera.
The fact is, Vera viciously attacks people that disagree
with her and you are in bed with her (figuratively) and
don't much care about truth! And any wrongs that
were done to her, which were minor and were
responses, not attacks, were apologized for and Vera
simply doesn't give a damn!
Correct
Not correct at all. Dave has no basic knowledge of me or how I
view things as an individual. Dave has made assumptions about me
that are not based on fact and do not accurately represent how
I think, believe or feel. Dave IS a KNOWN LIAR, and the sooner you
escape his influence the sooner your vision will clear sufficiently to
see what an abomination he is.
The truth is, it is up TO VERA to stop VERA'S BEHAVIOR!!!
It is not up to anyone else to kneel before her and kiss her
***** for her and that is exactly what she wants!
Correct
Vera has made it plain why she is saying these things to you
and you don't believe her when the proof has been before your
eyes all this time. Is it correct and good that Dave should
swear and cuss and shout inflammatory names at others without
repentance, continue in his sin and still claim to be a Pastor ?
Have you spent enough time on scripture to really understand what
it is telling you regarding false teachers ? With what you know
right now, would you know one if he spoke to you ? Compare what
you know now to what scripture says, I DARE YOU ! Are you strong
enough to accept what it tells you ? What is the measuring stick
that Christ used to compare others deeds against the law ? It was
Love God with all your heart and mind and your neighbor as yourself,
and you will satisfy the law. Has it sounded to you lately like Dave
cares about satisfying the law or Christ ? Why don't you count the
posts Dave made to me when I chided him for his foul language and
verbal abuse where he exclaimed, "I don't care" and "I don't give a
damn" ? Take a look further and see if he posted an apology to the
the people he spoke to or said these things about ! Does a real
preacher act like this ? Go talk with a real preacher and show him
copies of Daves posts and mine, I DARE YOU ! Are you afraid of the
answer you'll receive ? Are you ashamed to tell him how you let
your idol the false teacher deceive you all this time without
comparing his words to scripture ? I would be !
If Vera cannot control Vera, then blame Vera, not all
of the other people she keeps constantly attacking,
Absolutely Amen !
And Di has done no wrong ? Vera has explained why she has made
those statements, are you listening to her ? So, do you believe it's
okay to accept anything you're told without checking it against
scripture before accepting it as fact ? Did scripture say it's okay
to curse and swear at people under circumstances you believe are
stressful ?
even after they had written her off and kill filed her!
You're a fake, Rod! You're a liar! And you have been
exposed for what you are!
I don't know he is a fake or liar however what you said in all the above
seems so to me too.
Tell me something Di, how can you say that you don't know
if I'm a liar after agreeing with the things Dave
has said above ? Accepting Daves word as truth without
knowing me well as a person is calling me a liar without
really knowing "if" I would lie or not, on a known liars
say so ! Don't let this monstrosity of a man manipulate
your mind as he does with others so often. Vera showed
everyone the first sign of abuse comes after confronting him
about lying, and the more you know of him, the better you get
at detecting his lies, the more abuse you will suffer, right up to
an including violence as a means of silencing you. Do other men of
God act like this ? I had the impression of you being a sweetheart
of a lady and understood what I was trying to tell you, but your words
here tell the story of a puppet that likes Dave making decisions for
her. Is this the impression that you meant to convey ? If not, it's
came across as that.
I ask only that you answer all my questions honestly without avoiding
them or snipping them, you may find some answers that will help Di
as well.
Rod
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: @ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
30 Dec 2007 07:26:13 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:45:23 GMT, Rod <icom706@att.net> said
the following:
Di wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com...
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
Correct !!!
If what I'm seeing now is what I would have viewed back
then, it isn't wonder that Vera was angry.
Hey stupid, you're bagged, as is Vera,
you moron! None of your lies, is going
to change that.
--
When you get tangled up in your problems, be still.
God wants us to be still, so he can untangle the knot.
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| User: "Rod" |
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| Title: Re: @ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
30 Dec 2007 08:50:27 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:45:23 GMT, Rod <icom706@att.net> said
the following:
Di wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com...
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
Correct !!!
If what I'm seeing now is what I would have viewed back
then, it isn't wonder that Vera was angry.
Hey stupid, you're bagged, as is Vera,
you moron!
Coming from an angry liar, that doesn't mean an awful
lot !
None of your lies, is going
to change that.
Thats because I haven't told Di any lies, but the truth I
spoke to her will change that. It just takes God, time and
faith. Right now, Di can't see the forest because the trees
blocking her view.
Now, why don't you be a good little net kook and find a liars
club and peddle your wares there, oh evil one ?
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: ROD BAGGED AGAIN!!! |
17 Jan 2008 09:30:57 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:42:29 GMT,
Rod <icom706@att.net> said the following:
Di wrote:
Rod wrote:
Thats because I haven't told Di any lies,
but the truth I spoke to her will change that.
It just takes God, time and faith. Right now,
Di can't see the forest because the trees
blocking her view.
Actually Rod it is you that can not see. I have
left you be to find out on your own. I think
you are a nice person and if Vera is what you
want in a friend that is your choice. You have
had me wrong from the beginning and you may
have read a little of "04" however you didn't see
anything but what you wanted to see.
What an odd statement ! I didn't want to see what
was in your post but it was there nevertheless!
If it's all me then I should be able to make it just
go away, right? After all, I see just what I want
to see, right? Your theory doesn't work Di,
the post still says what it says & wishing it away
didn't make it leave. Much like the problems
you are causing yourself, wishing them away
won't make them dissappear or force your hero
Dave to treat you like a human being once you
anger him, but you've already been there and
done that, haven't you? Didn't learn a thing,
did you ?
Hey Rod, thanks for admitting that when you claimed
you were just coming into these groups and were a
new Bible student, that you were lying!
Di and I have been nice to each other for quite some
time now, which means that you must be referring
to stuff from a long time ago!
Can you say B-A-G-G-E-D again?!
And thanks for showing us your good Christian love,
by jumping on Di when all she was doing, was being
nice to you!
God's Peace to you Rod and I wish you well on
your walk toward our Father God.
Then follow me!
YOU WANT HER TO *_FOLLOW YOU_* ?!?!?!?!?!
Who the Hell do you think you are?!?
Walk beside me and talk with me,
Sorry, people should walk beside Jesus and only Him!
don't shut me out because of things you think you
know from listening to the "swearing Pastor from hell".
Interesting comment from a man who just finished
cussing me out a few days ago, one message after
trying to take me to task for cussing! <chuckle>
Ask me and I'll explain myself, and then
I'll prove it to you! No one is stopping you
from asking me but you...
You can't prove anything but the fact that YOU LIE!
And how can you be so stupid, that you keep denying
you lie, in a thread that proved you lied?!
--
"Murder is unique in that it abolishes the party
it injures, so that society has to take the place
of the victim and on his behalf demand atonement
or grant forgiveness; it is the one crime in which
society has a direct interest." - W. H. Auden
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: @ IT'S THE RODDY QUESTIONS, YEA BABY, YEA!!! |
17 Jan 2008 09:36:56 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:40:11 -0600, Rod <icom706@att.net>
said the following:
Pastor Dave wrote:
Hey Rod, thanks for admitting that when you
claimed you were just coming into these groups
and were a new Bible student, that you were lying!
No. Like Peter, I wasn't fully converted to the faith yet,
You claimed to be and when you recently claimed to be
a "new student to the Bible", you lied!
And the, when you claimed that you never claimed that,
you lied again, since you are now trying to write an
addendum to your statement! <chuckle>
Di and I have been nice to each other for quite
some time now, which means that you must be
referring to stuff from a long time ago!
Can you say B-A-G-G-E-D *ss wipe?!
Yes, Dave, you've been bagged for quite a while now.
Did you really think that would work? Saying that
I'm bagged, when you were just caught? What're
you, like 6? <chuckle>
And thanks for showing us your good Christian love,
by jumping on Di when all she was doing, was being
nice to you!
Were you an abused child by any chance?
So when you're bagged, asking if I was abused as
a child somehow gets you out of it? Bawahahaha!!!
You really are warped, dude! You blast Di for being
nice to you and when that is pointed out, your response
is to ask me if I was abused as a child?! Huh?! What?!
Now let me ask you... If I was abused as a child...
1) Does that mean that your lies become truth?
2) Or are you just claiming that it means that you are
justified when you attack me and furthermore, that
it's okay to claim that I am less of a person, because
I was abused as a child?
3) Or do you think it means that if someone is abused
as a child, that it's okay for you to jump on them
when they're nice to you?
It is obvious that you are trying to apply all three
of these, being the lame person that you are! (:
God's Peace to you Rod and I wish you well
on your walk toward our Father God.
Then follow me ! Walk beside me and talk with me,
don't shut me out because of things you think you
know from listening to the "swearing Pastor from hell".
Ask me and I'll explain myself, and then I'll prove it
to you! No one is stopping you from asking me but you...
YOU WANT HER TO *_FOLLOW YOU_* ?!?!?!?!?!
180 degrees opposite from you is a good start !
In other words, you now see just how much you
worship yourself and now you wish to try to make
it seem as if responding with an insult fired at me
somehow makes that okay!
Who the Hell do you think you are?!?
I don't think I'm a pastor that's allowed to break
Gods laws as you are doing... Does this help ??
So it's okay to do that as you've been doing,
because you're not a pastor. Right, gotcha!
Once again, we see Rod trying to deflect and point
his finger at someone else, instead of facing up to
what he just did! Like I asked... What're you, like 6?
You know the difference between you and I, besides
the fact that you lie and I don't? It's very simple!
Unlike you, I don't try to justify my sins! I admit that
using foul language is a sin. You pretend that what
you do was decreed by God and it's okay, if you just
deny it and cask if I was abused as a child! (:
And you can't prove anything but the fact that
YOU LIE, as I just proved in this very message!
What you proved
Is that you are a liar!
And how can you be so stupid, that you keep
denying you lie, in a thread that proved you lied?!
Ask yourself this question first, Dave.
Q) Why was the subject line changed?"
A) Because the truth was stated in the original!
So I changed it from your abusive subject line,
which you changed it to, to attack me while
denying attacking me, to one that is more
humorous and doesn't make any claims
against you. But hey, I'm sorry I didn't,
"follow you", like you said Di should! :)
So Dave, I'll do what I need to do to stay right with God.
Really? Starting when? Apparently not today!
I don't want to end up like you.
Honest? Apparently no, you don't want to end up
that way! You make that much and more, obvious,
by your constant lies, while calling others liars and
when they ask you to prove it, claiming whatever
they wrote is a lie, without proving it to be such!
--
"Love all, trust a few, harm none."
- William Shakespeare
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: @ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
31 Dec 2007 11:39:25 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:50:27 -0600, Rod <icom706@att.net>
said the following:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:45:23 GMT, Rod <icom706@att.net> said
the following:
Di wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com...
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
Correct !!!
If what I'm seeing now is what I would have viewed back
then, it isn't wonder that Vera was angry.
Hey stupid, you're bagged, as is Vera,
you moron!
Coming from an angry liar, that doesn't mean an awful
lot !
I would like for people to note your stupidity here
and just how dumb you are!
You have the gall to claim I'm the liar, while quoting
the proof that you lied about not knowing Vera!
DUUUHHHHH!!!!! BAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
The Last Days were in the first century:
1 Corinthians 1:7-8
7) So that *YE* come behind in no gift;
WAITING FOR THE COMING OF OUR LORD
JESUS CHRIST:
8) Who shall also confirm YOU unto the end,
that *YE* may be blameless in the day of
our Lord Jesus Christ.
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| User: "Rod" |
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| Title: Re: @ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
31 Dec 2007 06:00:22 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:50:27 -0600, Rod <icom706@att.net>
said the following:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:45:23 GMT, Rod <icom706@att.net> said
the following:
Di wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com...
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
Correct !!!
If what I'm seeing now is what I would have viewed back
then, it isn't wonder that Vera was angry.
Hey stupid, you're bagged, as is Vera,
you moron!
Coming from an angry liar, that doesn't mean an awful
lot !
I would like for people to note your stupidity here
and just how dumb you are!
You have the gall to claim I'm the liar, while quoting
the proof that you lied about not knowing Vera!
DUUUHHHHH!!!!! BAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
No Dave, I said that I don't know Vera well, and explained
that. I haven't lied, though you don't fail in making the
accusation. Lack of reading skill cannot be your excuse,
you're a liar, and a very desperate one at that !
You're hardly worth spending any further time with. Anyone
with questions about your paranoid rant can contact me OR
do a search on Google. In the meantime Dave, you've thrown
away your salvation for the chance at being a liar that
assumes he knows more than he actually does. Like I said
before about you Dave...you're a liar reaching for straws,
a real twister of words. I'm not certain but what when I
speak with you I'm not speaking with satan himself.......
Goodbye
--
Eccl 7:9
Do not be quickly provoked in your spirit, for anger resides in the
lap of fools. (NIV)
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: @ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
31 Dec 2007 10:42:30 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:00:22 GMT, Rod <icom706@att.net> said
the following:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:50:27 -0600, Rod <icom706@att.net>
said the following:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:45:23 GMT, Rod <icom706@att.net> said
the following:
Di wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com...
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
Correct !!!
If what I'm seeing now is what I would have viewed back
then, it isn't wonder that Vera was angry.
Hey stupid, you're bagged, as is Vera,
you moron!
Coming from an angry liar, that doesn't mean an awful
lot !
I would like for people to note your stupidity here
and just how dumb you are!
You have the gall to claim I'm the liar, while quoting
the proof that you lied about not knowing Vera!
DUUUHHHHH!!!!! BAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
No Dave, I said that I don't know Vera well, and explained
that. I haven't lied, though you don't fail in making the
accusation. Lack of reading skill cannot be your excuse,
you're a liar, and a very desperate one at that !
You're hardly worth spending any further time with. Anyone
with questions about your paranoid rant can contact me OR
do a search on Google. In the meantime Dave, you've thrown
away your salvation for the chance at being a liar that
assumes he knows more than he actually does. Like I said
before about you Dave...you're a liar reaching for straws,
a real twister of words. I'm not certain but what when I
speak with you I'm not speaking with satan himself.......
Goodbye
Your stupidity factor just increased!
And thanks for telling me I've thrown away my salvation,
because I disagreed with your god, which is you! That
was quite Christian and non-judgmental of you!
--
The Last Days were in the first century:
James 5:8-9
8) Be YE also patient; establish YOUR hearts:
for the coming of the Lord DRAWETH NIGH.
9) Grudge not one against another, brethren,
lest YE be condemned: behold, the judge
STANDETH BEFORE THE DOOR.
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| User: "Rod" |
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| Title: Re: @ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
01 Jan 2008 11:15:01 AM |
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Pastor Dave spoke:
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:00:22 GMT, Rod <icom706@att.net> said
the following:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:50:27 -0600, Rod <icom706@att.net>
said the following:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:45:23 GMT, Rod <icom706@att.net> said
the following:
Di wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com...
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing =
up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group =
through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not =
see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
Correct !!!
If what I'm seeing now is what I would have viewed back
then, it isn't wonder that Vera was angry.
Hey stupid, you're bagged, as is Vera,
you moron!
Coming from an angry liar, that doesn't mean an awful
lot !
I would like for people to note your stupidity here
and just how dumb you are!
You have the gall to claim I'm the liar, while quoting
the proof that you lied about not knowing Vera!
No, liar Dave, I said I don't know Vera well, and haven't known
her but a few months. Get it straight liar.....or have you been =
beleiving
your own lies for so long that you've fooled yourself ???
DUUUHHHHH!!!!! BAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Dave, waking to reality]......
No Dave, I said that I don't know Vera well, and explained
that. I haven't lied, though you don't fail in making the
accusation. Lack of reading skill cannot be your excuse,
you're a liar, and a very desperate one at that !
You're hardly worth spending any further time with. Anyone
with questions about your paranoid rant can contact me OR
do a search on Google. In the meantime Dave, you've thrown
away your salvation for the chance at being a liar that
assumes he knows more than he actually does. Like I said
before about you Dave...you're a liar reaching for straws,
a real twister of words. I'm not certain but what when I
speak with you I'm not speaking with satan himself.......
Goodbye
Your stupidity factor just increased!
Yours has never decreased ! Your willingness to defame and
lie bear that fact out ! Lets see you put out some effort and actually
research and post my exact words instead of passing off homespun
lies as fact and continuing the brain games you've been playing. I
wouldn't have answered at all except for the fact that it won't be
good to allow your lies to go unchallenged. if you'll do so with
me you'll do it with anyone.
And thanks for telling me I've thrown away my salvation,
because I disagreed with your god, which is you! That
was quite Christian and non-judgmental of you!
Anyone able to read can read our posting history in here and see
the progression of how you've gone from bad to worse. Anyone
taking your word for things without verifying your words is asking
to be deceived, and will be. So many here know of you, and those
that see you as a friend have evil as companionship.
This is for the benefit of others that may fall victim to you, not for my
benefit or yours, convict !
Rod
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On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:15:01 GMT, "Rod" <icom706@att.net>
said the following:
Pastor Dave spoke:
You're hardly worth spending any further time with. Anyone
with questions about your paranoid rant can contact me OR
do a search on Google. In the meantime Dave, you've thrown
away your salvation for the chance at being a liar that
assumes he knows more than he actually does. Like I said
before about you Dave...you're a liar reaching for straws,
a real twister of words. I'm not certain but what when I
speak with you I'm not speaking with satan himself.......
Goodbye
Your stupidity factor just increased!
Yours has never decreased! Your willingness to defame and
lie bear that fact out!
And yet, NOT ONCE have you proved I lied!
And here you are, trying to talk about my
"stupidity factor", while denying you're a liar,
in the same thread in which the first message
has you contradicting yourself, lying, dumbass!!!
Lets see you put out some effort and actually
research and post my exact words instead of
passing off homespun lies as fact
You are one fucking stupid as boy!!!
Here is the post that started this thread, WITH YOU QUOTED
LYING ROD, you dumbass moron!!!
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Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
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Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
You love to focus on what everyone else did to Vera,
whether they did anything or not! Where in your post
does it reflect the possibility that Vera is at fault for
what has transpired over this time? It is nowhere
to be found!
According to you, only Vera was wronged, since that's
all your post mentions and either the person didn't
apologize, or didn't do it well enough and what Vera's
doing isn't bad, because hey, "it's human", right Rod?
The fact is, Vera viciously attacks people that disagree
with her and you are in bed with her (figuratively) and
don't much care about truth! And any wrongs that
were done to her, which were minor and were
responses, not attacks, were apologized for and Vera
simply doesn't give a damn!
The truth is, it is up TO VERA to stop VERA'S BEHAVIOR!!!
It is not up to anyone else to kneel before her and kiss her
***** for her and that is exactly what she wants!
If Vera cannot control Vera, then blame Vera, not all
of the other people she keeps constantly attacking,
even after they had written her off and kill filed her!
You're a fake, Rod! You're a liar! And you have been
exposed for what you are!
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"Flowers never emit so sweet and strong a fragrance
as before a storm. When a storm approaches thee,
be as fragrant as a sweet-smelling flower."
-Jean Paul Richter
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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| Title: Re: @ Rod's Claim to Hardly Know Vera! |
31 Dec 2007 11:40:50 PM |
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"Pastor Knave" < SATAN_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com...
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists".
How many have you dragged into hell with you so far, Satan?
Don't pat yourself on the back. They never were believers in the Lord. Like
you, they had their own gospel.
Satan, you're a paranoid idiot.
2 John 1:7 (ASV)
For many deceivers are gone forth into the world, even they that confess
not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist.
His,
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http://tinyurl.com/2hf6ak
ho echon ota akoueto Preparing the way of the Lord
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matt 10:15)
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| User: " ::: good news runner :::" |
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| Title: @ "PASTOR" DAVE AND GATEKEEPER TWINS? |
30 Dec 2007 09:38:33 AM |
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You are making yourself more and more ridiculous with such wild and
false accusations... of which you cannot even prove one!
Paranoia is evil, Dave - go and see a doctor soon, or they might carry
you away in a white straitjacket... which could be of help for all
maybe.
Rod is really a very fine and sweet soul, and I am very glad to have him
around here.
That is how you ALWAYS deal with people who look through your lies - you
libel them and make up something, rat.
What a tasteless trash...
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In news:bu8fn3lh1vuo33slgqkui3l352effouj9s@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
Rod came back into these groups, thinking he could
pull one over on those of us here who would qualify
as "Full Preterists". And he seemed to be very friendly
with Vera. He thought he was fooling us, but in reality,
we knew who he actually was and that he was trying
to play us. And the whole time, it was actually us
giving him enough rope to hang himself, while he
pretended to be interested and asked questions about
our beliefs and said he was a new Bible student, which
we knew was a lie.
But on the day I exposed him, the foul words started
flying, right after he had written me messages saying
I shouldn't use such language (before he was exposed).
As for his relationship with Vera, he pretended that
he had just met her and even after being exposed,
repeatedly said that he hardly knew her.
But is this really true? Let's take a look at Rod's
own words that he just posted and see for ourselves:
ROD:
***************************************************
Cross her Rod. Disagree with her then judge us.
I have disagreed with her before, before coming to this
group, and the end result was the she asked me to consider
becoming a Christian, and I eventually did so after showing
up here. Had she not offered me the invitation, I might
never have found the LORD for real. I had tried to be a
Christian before but my faith was never strong enough,
and I let hate and anger drive my life. Vera gave me a
chance without a second thought, and that chance led me
to God who set me free.
***************************************************
So this woman that he "hardly knows", is the one
who had led him to Christ?!?
Now praise God if someone is led to Christ! I'm not
knocking that. I'm talking about his false claim that
he "hardly knew her" when he was trying to fool us
into thinking he was someone else, when in reality,
he had been here before for quite some time and
posted as a believer, so this is not something that
just happened!
The truth is, Rod is a liar and has proved himself
to be one! And if this is what he considers to be
acting on Christ's behalf, I feel bad for him!
Now he can point at me all he wants about language.
But he used it as well and the difference is, he lies
and I don't! And when he claimed I do and I asked
him to prove it, the best he could do is claim that
whatever I just typed was a lie, of course, without
proving it was!
And let's look at Rod trying to defend Vera:
ROD:
********************************************************
Rod what you don't seem to understand is that Vera is bringing up
old posts of old sins and slamming alot of us in this group through
her anger she has had for years now. You are blind and can not see.
But I'm beginning to. If 4 years ago I stuck my tongue out
at you and then repented of it and begged God for
forgiveness, is it really settled if I ignored asking your
forgiveness? Has anyone approached her and asked
forgiveness? If she does this then it's a sign that she has
some unresolved feelings about it. Perhaps she didn't
believe an apology was genuine, or perhaps the person
apologizing to her went back out and did the same thing
to her again, or someone else? There is always a logical
reason for hurt not to abate and leave, and in most cases
it is because the apology wasn't genuine or the person
being apologized to wasn't convinced that the apology
was real. What she is doing is human, because she may
still be hurting or the apology never came. Each of us can
put ourselves in this position, we have been in one of these
positions at least once where someone apologized and then
mocked you or lied about you behind your back.
We have all experienced some manner of hurt similar to this.
**********************************************************
And Rod, as for you trying to defend Vera's actions,
calling them "human" and trying to blame others
for her anger, the truth is, that it was Vera who owed
most of the apologies and those are the ones that
never came!
You love to focus on what everyone else did to Vera,
whether they did anything or not! Where in your post
does it reflect the possibility that Vera is at fault for
what has transpired over this time? It is nowhere
to be found!
According to you, only Vera was wronged, since that's
all your post mentions and either the person didn't
apologize, or didn't do it well enough and what Vera's
doing isn't bad, because hey, "it's human", right Rod?
The fact is, Vera viciously attacks people that disagree
with her and you are in bed with her (figuratively) and
don't much care about truth! And any wrongs that
were done to her, which were minor and were
responses, not attacks, were apologized for and Vera
simply doesn't give a damn!
The truth is, it is up TO VERA to stop VERA'S BEHAVIOR!!!
It is not up to anyone else to kneel before her and kiss her
***** for her and that is exactly what she wants!
If Vera cannot control Vera, then blame Vera, not all
of the other people she keeps constantly attacking,
even after they had written her off and kill filed her!
You're a fake, Rod! You're a liar! And you have been
exposed for what you are!
--
In a company of literary gentlemen, Daniel Webster
was asked if he could comprehend how Jesus Christ
could be both God and man. "No, sir," he replied,
and added, "I should be ashamed to acknowledge Him
as my Savior if I could comprehend Him. If I could
comprehend Him, He could be no greater than myself.
Such is my sense of sin, and consciousness of my
inability to save myself, that I feel I need a
superhuman Savior, one so great and glorious that
I cannot comprehend Him."
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: @ "PASTOR" DAVE AND GATEKEEPER TWINS? |
30 Dec 2007 07:30:38 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:38:33 +0100, " ::: good news runner
:::" <veralein@lycos.com> said the following:
You are making yourself more and more ridiculous with such wild and
false accusations... of which you cannot even prove one!
Thanks for showing your desperation!
Another non-answer by useless Vera!
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"Fortune favors the bold." - Virgil - The Aeneid
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