Religions > Bible > # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD #
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14 Dec 2006 09:42:41 PM |
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# THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
This period is based on the numbers of books the Bible has .
To come to the year 1879 AD I have presented numerous related
calculations .
1879 AD + 27 books of the Old Testament ending with the Book of
Daniel
He is the one that introduced " 7 Times" and that term covers the 27
books of the Bible..
1x2x3x4x5x6x7 = 7 Times = 5040 years = 2x3x4x5x6x7
That is why we can omit " 1 " .
2+3+4+5+6+7 = 27 = 7 Times
1879 AD + 27 years for 17 books + 12 remaining books of the Old
Testament = 1945 AD
1945 AD again 66 books ( 27 + 12 + 27 ) = 2011 AD
So God's Word -the Bible covers the period : 1879 AD - 2011 AD
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| User: "L. kogann" |
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| Title: Re: # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
15 Dec 2006 12:00:49 AM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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This period is based on the numbers of books the Bible has .
To come to the year 1879 AD I have presented numerous related
calculations .
Where do you get all this number nonsense from? Is it from that radio loon
Camping?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
15 Dec 2006 11:50:29 AM |
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L. kogann wrote:
Where do you get all this number nonsense from? Is it from that radio loon
Camping?
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I have been writing extensively on this subject of the end times.
Read my earlier posts to find out I am not belonging to any religiious
denomination that are
on this earth.
Harold Camping has no idea who I am I assume though I had tried to
reach him before .
I am against him anyway !
He is however the best opponent in the world of preachiing to what I
preach.
A good opponent to count with as he is a gifted preacher of a peculiar
type .
No other preacher on radio now compares to him.
The next one Hank Hanegraaff ,called the Answer Bible Man-is far
behind.
Harold Camping came up with the year 2011 AD in a different way .
Already by the fact he is predicting the year 2011 AD he is the best
opponent to deal with.
He teaches that people must leave all their chiurches to be saved .
I am making a few exceptions ; at least one .
Jehovah's Witnesses are true religion.
My time charts prove that .Read more about them.
More than 99% Christians are not true Christians ! So it is a very
serious matter.
I am a frequent listener to Campoing's Open Forum program in which
people can call him
and talk about the Bible .
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| User: "L. kogann" |
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| Title: Re: # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
15 Dec 2006 08:26:28 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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He teaches that people must leave all their chiurches to be saved .
I am making a few exceptions ; at least one .
Jehovah's Witnesses are true religion.
Of course you know that isn't true or you would join them to serve the WTS
and make the GB even richer.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
15 Dec 2006 09:51:34 PM |
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L. kogann wrote:
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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He teaches that people must leave all their chiurches to be saved .
I am making a few exceptions ; at least one .
Jehovah's Witnesses are true religion.
Of course you know that isn't true or you would join them to serve the WTS
and make the GB even richer.
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If that is not true so why I am defending them ? And most likely the
Watchtower would not agree with me and support me .Read Luke 9.49--50
- the example is right there.
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| User: "L. kogann" |
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15 Dec 2006 11:30:35 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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L. kogann wrote:
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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He teaches that people must leave all their chiurches to be saved .
I am making a few exceptions ; at least one .
Jehovah's Witnesses are true religion.
Of course you know that isn't true or you would join them to serve the
WTS
and make the GB even richer.
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If that is not true so why I am defending them ?
Because you don't know any better. If they have the true religion why do so
many of them lose their family, their friends and even their spouses and
children because of the WTS's teachings? Doesn't the bible say "let no man
put asunder what GOD hath joined together?" The WTS is a very destructive
cult. Then when a family is destroyed they play the blame-the-victim game.
They never mention the fact that had the family never taken over by the WTS,
it would still be together.
And most likely the
Watchtower would not agree with me and support me .Read Luke 9.49--50
- the example is right there.
The WTS is as inflexible as any tightly controlled communist country. They
insist they have some special line to their God and everyone else is
following demons. They're BAD news is join them or die in agony in their
god's sizzling lake-o-fire.
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| User: "" |
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16 Dec 2006 05:30:40 PM |
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L. kogann
I would rarther be killed as a baby than to live a long life and die
unsaved !
Most people live and most forfeit their lives , by not believing in
God
and it would be better they were not born at all .
If you die unsaved you lose billons of years if you are lost and will
not
live in the Paradise .
Witnesses kill say 1000 children but they will come back to life and
will have a chance to live for ever . So
they lost , say 1000 x 100 years of life in this present world which is
100000 years , It is nothing when compared to the eternal life lost by
an unbeliever . Eternal life is more than 100 000 000 000 000 0000
years of life lost !
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| User: "L. kogann" |
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16 Dec 2006 06:53:18 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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L. kogann
I would rarther be killed as a baby than to live a long life and die
unsaved !
Unsaved from WHAT and WHO?
Most people live and most forfeit their lives , by not believing in
God
and it would be better they were not born at all .
Proof?
If you die unsaved you lose billons of years if you are lost and will
not
live in the Paradise .
Paradise is a fantasy of those who can't accept reality.
Witnesses kill say 1000 children but they will come back to life and
will have a chance to live for ever .
Proof?
So
they lost , say 1000 x 100 years of life in this present world which is
100000 years , It is nothing when compared to the eternal life lost by
an unbeliever . Eternal life is more than 100 000 000 000 000 0000
years of life lost !
Define unbeliever. You also failed to address the destructiveness of the
WTS cult.
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| User: "Opie" |
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16 Dec 2006 07:29:15 PM |
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On 16 Dec 2006 15:30:40 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
L. kogann
I would rarther be killed as a baby than to live a long life and die
unsaved !
Most people live and most forfeit their lives , by not believing in
God
and it would be better they were not born at all .
If you die unsaved you lose billons of years if you are lost and will
not
live in the Paradise .
Witnesses kill say 1000 children but they will come back to life and
will have a chance to live for ever . So
they lost , say 1000 x 100 years of life in this present world which is
100000 years , It is nothing when compared to the eternal life lost by
an unbeliever . Eternal life is more than 100 000 000 000 000 0000
years of life lost !
So, what's heaven like that makes it so valuable? Can you fly model
airplanes in heaven? Is there sex in heaven? Will a person who thinks
he's too short be tall in heaven? Are there physical bodies in heaven
or are the inhabitants spook-like apparitions? And, if so, what can a
simple spirit do that might be worthwhile?
Tell me Mister IHaveThisAllFiguredOut, WHAT IS HEAVEN and WHERE IS IT?
Only a fool would want to go someplace that he knows absolutely NOTHING
about. (If you can't answer, I'll assume you're a fool like so many
others)
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| User: "The Nolalu Barn Owl gordie@nolalu.on.ca" |
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15 Dec 2006 06:59:32 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 09:50:29 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
He teaches that people must leave all their chiurches to be saved .
I am making a few exceptions ; at least one .
Jehovah's Witnesses are true religion.
IF that were a true statement, YOU WOULD BE ONE!
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Gordie
Where in the Bible is the claim made that we are limited to
what we read?
How about hearing?
- Romans 10:17
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| User: "" |
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| Title: LUKE 9.49-50 allows for a single believer |
15 Dec 2006 09:41:38 PM |
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at least one .
Jehovah's Witnesses are true religion.
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IF that were a true statement, YOU WOULD BE ONE!
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Gordie
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The discioples that were with Christ opposed that one seperate
believer in Luke 9.49-50.
What did Jesus say ?
He did not say : we have the only truth and tell that man he must joins
us .
Instead he said don't forbid him ; he who is not against us is with us
..
That is exactly what is happening in our days too.
The Watchtower would rather disagree with me and forbid me whiile I am
not against them !
It had to be so untill Jesus guides them in proper time.
The two witnsesses of Revelation 11 .1-10 can be understood as one
person that is a christian
and one small christian group .- all servants of God and Christ .
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| User: "The Nolalu Barn Owl gordie@nolalu.on.ca" |
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17 Dec 2006 07:32:58 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 19:41:38 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
at least one .
Jehovah's Witnesses are true religion.
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IF that were a true statement, YOU WOULD BE ONE!
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Gordie
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The discioples that were with Christ opposed that one seperate
believer in Luke 9.49-50.
What did Jesus say ?
He did not say : we have the only truth and tell that man he must joins
us .
Instead he said don't forbid him ; he who is not against us is with us
.
That is exactly what is happening in our days too.
The Watchtower would rather disagree with me and forbid me whiile I am
not against them !
It had to be so untill Jesus guides them in proper time.
The two witnsesses of Revelation 11 .1-10 can be understood as one
person that is a christian
and one small christian group .- all servants of God and Christ .
Make sense of this one will you?
She preaches THEIR message and tells the TRUTH about them. She
doesn't say a word against them so she must be for them according to
your estimation (I assume).
Why did she grieve them?
Acts 16:
16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain girl, having a
pythonical spirit, met us, who brought to her masters much gain by
divining.
17 This same following Paul and us, cried out, saying: These men are
the servants of the most high God, who preach unto you the way of
salvation.
18 And this she did many days. But Paul being grieved, turned, and
said to the spirit: I command thee, in the name of Jesus Christ, to go
out from her. And he went out the same hour.
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Gordie
Knowledge, as valuable as it is, is not enough. Christianity is much
more than a collection of facts. The loving God who created us
desires to be in a relationship with us. When asked which was the
greatest commandment, Jesus replied: "You shall love the Lord your
God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your
mind" (Matthew 22:37). Think about it! Do you really believe that
you can love anybody that much without knowing them?
http://www.staycatholic.com/knowledge_is_not_enough.htm
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| User: "The Nolalu Barn Owl gordie@nolalu.on.ca" |
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17 Dec 2006 06:31:45 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 19:41:38 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
at least one .
Jehovah's Witnesses are true religion.
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IF that were a true statement, YOU WOULD BE ONE!
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Gordie
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The discioples that were with Christ opposed that one seperate
believer in Luke 9.49-50.
What did Jesus say ?
He did not say : we have the only truth and tell that man he must joins
us .
Instead he said don't forbid him ; he who is not against us is with us
.
That is exactly what is happening in our days too.
The Watchtower would rather disagree with me and forbid me whiile I am
not against them !
It had to be so untill Jesus guides them in proper time.
The two witnsesses of Revelation 11 .1-10 can be understood as one
person that is a christian
and one small christian group .- all servants of God and Christ .
WHEW! Getting hard to track your replies when you can't stick to a
simple thread.
he who is not against us is with us
With us or a member with us? Not the same is it? Besides, Jesus DID
have the one and only truth. God is one.
50 Et ait ad illum Iesus : Nolite prohibere : qui enim non est
adversum vos, pro vobis est.
adversum (nom sing)
adversum, adversi n nt
direction/point opposite/facing; uphill slope/direction; obstacle,
trouble;
adversum (acc sing)
adversus, adversi n m
person/foe opposite/directly facing (w/hostile intent); political
opponent;
adversum (nom nt sing)
adversum (acc m sing)
adversum (acc nt sing)
adversus, adversa -um, adversior -or -us, adversissimus -a -um adj
opposite, directly facing, ranged against; adverse, evil, hostile;
unfavorable;
adversum
adversum adv
opposite, against, in opposite direction; in opposition; (w/ire go to
meet);
adversum
adversum prep (+ acc)
facing, opposite, against, towards; contrary to; face to face, in
presence of;
adversum (perf pass part, nom nt sing)
adversum (perf pass part, acc m sing)
adversum (perf pass part, acc nt sing)
adversum (supine)
adverto, advertere, adverti, adversus vb
turn/face to/towards; direct/draw one's attention to; steer/pilot
(ship);
pro
pro prep (+ abl)
on behalf of; before; in front/instead of; for; about; according to;
as, like;
50 And Jesus said to him: Forbid him not; for he that is not against
you, is for you
Funny, I don't see the word "with" anywhere and that makes a big
difference.
Anyway, if you see a better way, a true religion, then it doesn't make
sense for you to stay on the outside looking in.
** Matthew 7:22-26
22 Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied
in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles
in thy name?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from
me, you that work iniquity.
24 Every one therefore that heareth these my words, and doth them,
shall be likened to a wise man that built his house upon a rock,
....
*****26 And every one that heareth these my words, and doth them not,
shall be like a foolish man that built his house upon the sand,*****
Is the WTS disagreeing with you? Why?
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Gordie
Knowledge, as valuable as it is, is not enough. Christianity is much
more than a collection of facts. The loving God who created us
desires to be in a relationship with us. When asked which was the
greatest commandment, Jesus replied: "You shall love the Lord your
God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your
mind" (Matthew 22:37). Think about it! Do you really believe that
you can love anybody that much without knowing them?
http://www.staycatholic.com/knowledge_is_not_enough.htm
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| User: "Veracity" |
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| Title: Re: # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
15 Dec 2006 11:02:29 AM |
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AMAZING CALCULATION!!!!!
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ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE!!!!!!!!!
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1166154161.861923.289600@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
This period is based on the numbers of books the Bible has .
To come to the year 1879 AD I have presented numerous related
calculations .
1879 AD + 27 books of the Old Testament ending with the Book of
Daniel
He is the one that introduced " 7 Times" and that term covers the 27
books of the Bible..
1x2x3x4x5x6x7 = 7 Times = 5040 years = 2x3x4x5x6x7
That is why we can omit " 1 " .
2+3+4+5+6+7 = 27 = 7 Times
1879 AD + 27 years for 17 books + 12 remaining books of the Old
Testament = 1945 AD
1945 AD again 66 books ( 27 + 12 + 27 ) = 2011 AD
So God's Word -the Bible covers the period : 1879 AD - 2011 AD
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| User: "Opie" |
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| Title: Re: # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
15 Dec 2006 11:02:09 AM |
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On 14 Dec 2006 19:42:41 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
This period is based on the numbers of books the Bible has .
To come to the year 1879 AD I have presented numerous related
calculations .
1879 AD + 27 books of the Old Testament ending with the Book of
Daniel
He is the one that introduced " 7 Times" and that term covers the 27
books of the Bible..
1x2x3x4x5x6x7 = 7 Times = 5040 years = 2x3x4x5x6x7
That is why we can omit " 1 " .
2+3+4+5+6+7 = 27 = 7 Times
1879 AD + 27 years for 17 books + 12 remaining books of the Old
Testament = 1945 AD
1945 AD again 66 books ( 27 + 12 + 27 ) = 2011 AD
So God's Word -the Bible covers the period : 1879 AD - 2011 AD
And just think -- all those other millions of people who have
incorrectly predicted the end are wrong and you alone have the correct
date. Such a favor your god has bestowed upon you alone. You should be
proud!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
15 Dec 2006 12:05:48 PM |
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And just think -- all those other millions of people who have
incorrectly predicted the end are wrong and you alone have the correct
date. Such a favor your god has bestowed upon you alone. You should be
proud!
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What I am presenting is thanks to God of Israel and the glory should be
given to him .
I am a simple man and looking back at my life I was like a prodigal
son and God
changed me .
It was by God's grace I came in the right time to the understandiing
of the 70 weeks
of Daniel 9.24 .
This was a breakthorugh in understanding the Bible .
All gates of understanding were open in 1984 AD.
The year 1984 AD is a clue to the history of mankind .,
The dates the Watchower set in their publications can be independently
confirmed by
my calculations. So we can be togther in some way.
I am not against the Watchtower to be in line with Luke 9.49-50.where
you can see
that one seperate person believing in Christ is approved of Christ.
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| User: "Opie" |
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15 Dec 2006 06:16:01 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 10:05:48 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
And just think -- all those other millions of people who have
incorrectly predicted the end are wrong and you alone have the correct
date. Such a favor your god has bestowed upon you alone. You should
be
proud!
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What I am presenting is thanks to God of Israel and the glory should be
given to him .
I am a simple man and looking back at my life I was like a prodigal
son and God
changed me .
It was by God's grace I came in the right time to the understandiing
of the 70 weeks
of Daniel 9.24 .
This was a breakthorugh in understanding the Bible .
All gates of understanding were open in 1984 AD.
The year 1984 AD is a clue to the history of mankind .,
The dates the Watchower set in their publications can be independently
confirmed by
my calculations. So we can be togther in some way.
I am not against the Watchtower to be in line with Luke 9.49-50.where
you can see
that one seperate person believing in Christ is approved of Christ.
Nah -- you're playing god yourself. Plain and simple -- you believe you
know what no other man knows. You can wordsmith it all you want but,
you're simply one of millions who too, will be proven a fool.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
15 Dec 2006 09:46:41 PM |
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Nah -- you're playing god yourself. Plain and simple -- you believe you
know what no other man knows. You can wordsmith it all you want but,
you're simply one of millions who too, will be proven a fool.
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What do you find repulsive in what I am writing
Use the Bible in refuting my statements .
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| User: "Opie" |
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| Title: Re: Re: # THE BIBLE DETERMINES THE END TIMES : 1879 AD - 2011 AD # |
16 Dec 2006 07:22:45 AM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 19:46:41 -0800, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
Nah -- you're playing god yourself. Plain and simple -- you believe
you
know what no other man knows. You can wordsmith it all you want but,
you're simply one of millions who too, will be proven a fool.
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What do you find repulsive in what I am writing
Use the Bible in refuting my statements .
Why would anybody use any book as a basis for anything? Especially when
it's been proven wrong on so many occasions. Better to read tea leaves.
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