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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Pastor Dave"
Date: 14 Apr 2005 10:13:28 PM
Object: * U2FAN ADMITS HIS PROPHECIES ARE FROM NEWSPAPERS *
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:10:49 +0100, while Pastor Dave
was preaching from the housetops, "u2 Fan" <a@b.com>
spake thusly:

The AC goes conquering the saints for 42 months and is stopped by the Lord.

10 Kings hate the prostitute.

WW3 could have 1.5 Billion casulties.

The war will be over Jerusalem.

A nuclear Israel and a nuclear Iran ( and others ) spells trouble.

People are blissfully unawares.

144,000 Virgin Jews will survive. The majority of Christians and Jews will
die.

I would guess sometime soon Iran or other nations will launch a pre-emtive
strike, nukes going off in Tel-Aviv, New York, DC, LA, London and other
cities. Quickly they will take over and force people to take the mark of the
beast.


Now show all of this Biblically. This is more of your
"newspaper prophecy".



Why don't you read the newspapers ? If you can in fact read ...

So then you admit that you get your "bible prophecy"
from the newspaper. Thank you. You have just
discredited yourself.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: * U2FAN ADMITS HIS PROPHECIES ARE FROM NEWSPAPERS * 15 Apr 2005 07:42:32 AM
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:51:33 +0100, while Pastor Dave
was preaching from the housetops, "u2 Fan" <a@b.com>
spake thusly:

I was telling YOU to read the newspapers, you imply I read them, as for
discrediting myself in front of a preterist ! That's the biggest joke there
is. Preterists think Jesus came back in 70ad, you have no credit at all
believing that non-sense.

Why do you keep snipping what we both said? Are you
embarrassed by your own words and the fact that my
responses show that you should be embarrassed by your
words? We both know why you told me to read a
newspaper.
As for my beliefs, you need to stop labeling me. I
believe the Bible. I am not a "preterist", nor a
"futurist", nor any other "ist". And what I believe,
came long before what you believe. What you believe
began in the year 1800. Does that make you feel good?
Does that make you feel like you've got it right? Did
the church have it wrong for 1800 years and thank the
Lord we now have the end timers to set the church
straight?
Let's face the facts. I challenged you and you were
unable to support your beliefs Biblically. If you want
to have another go at it, I'm game. But bring
something solid to the table this time.
And doesn't it bother you, that you make claims about
what the Bible prophecies mean, based on what the daily
newspaper says? But let me guess, you're "led by the
Holy Spirit", right? Is this the same Holy Spirit that
led you to make all of those other claims that you have
made, that didn't pan out? What was it for you, when
Saddam Hussein was in power? He was the AntiChrist and
look how he was rebuilding Babylon (even though God
said it would never be rebuilt)? Look folks, the Bible
prophecies are being fulfilled right before our eyes!
Was it something like that? Of course it was! :)
So how many times will you be wrong, all the while
claiming to be lead by the Holy Spirit? How many times
will you try to make God look like a fool, with your
end times superstitions, that never come true? And why
is it that you are never able to dismantle even one of
the points that I make and instead, turn to name
calling? Is that the Holy Spirit telling you what to
say, son? Does the Holy Spirit tell you to show a
complete lack of respect for a pastor who doesn't
believe in the fairy tales you preach? And we both
know they are fairy tales, because they never come
true. Saddam Hussein, for example, is in prison. He's
done. Yet look what you and others preached about him.
Does the Holy Spirit tell you that a pastor is just
some idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about?
Has it ever occurred to you, that you can't dismantle
even one of my points, because they're the truth? No,
that thought never occurred to you, did it?
So any time you're ready, we'll have another go around.
But this time, don't run away like you did the last
time.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
.
User: "u2 Fan"

Title: Re: * U2FAN ADMITS HIS PROPHECIES ARE FROM NEWSPAPERS * 15 Apr 2005 11:46:00 AM
Pastor Dave .... You're a troll, you like me "insulting you" because you're
pathetic. You want company in the depths of illogic and bizzare ideas. Go
and play with Dore ...
You want to drag me down to you're depths of cheap insults and troll
techniques, you're just another troll.
Trolls get high from making decent people insult loosers. ( Are you sure
your not a politican ? )
You're not a pastor but a looser. No Pastor would act like you with cheap
snide remarks designed to cause trollicing.
you never post anything constructive.
you're the proverbial "pig" that is not worth throwing pearls too.
.
User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: * U2FAN ADMITS HIS PROPHECIES ARE FROM NEWSPAPERS * 15 Apr 2005 11:52:51 AM
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:46:00 +0100, while Pastor Dave
was preaching from the housetops, "u2 Fan" <a@b.com>
spake thusly:

Pastor Dave .... You're a troll, you like me "insulting you" because you're
pathetic. You want company in the depths of illogic and bizzare ideas. Go
and play with Dore ...

You want to drag me down to you're depths of cheap insults and troll
techniques, you're just another troll.

Trolls get high from making decent people insult loosers. ( Are you sure
your not a politican ? )

You're not a pastor but a looser. No Pastor would act like you with cheap
snide remarks designed to cause trollicing.

you never post anything constructive.

you're the proverbial "pig" that is not worth throwing pearls too.

Fact: You preached that Saddam Hussein was the
AntiChrist.
Fact: You preached that other people were the
AntiChrist.
Fact: You were wrong every time.
Fact: You won't admit that.
Fact: You claim that the Holy Spirit leads you to these
conclusions.
Fact: That makes you a liar.
Fact: You are the "swine".
Fact: You are afraid to go head to head and see if your
beliefs hold water.
Fact: You delete the post before responding, because
you know what I said about you is true.
Fact: You are acting stupid when you do that, because
you think that people can't go one message back in the
thread and see what you deleted. <chuckle>
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
/
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\
"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
.




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