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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Pastor Dave"
Date: 13 Jan 2005 11:09:24 AM
Object: * UJB SAYS THAT HEROIN IS OKAY *
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:26 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

Pastor Dave wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:06:46 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

We do what's right, period. God does not call us to
sin and claim it is righteousness, because someone is
in anguish. Anguish over what? That we won't baptize
her baby, even though it isn't Scriptural to do so?
Why do you consider the anguish of the mother first,
instead of first considering whether what's going on is
of God? Think about that.


None of the above are a problem with me, but you have not shown
it's forbidden. If it's not forbidden it falls into the grace
item category.


Once again, that's a copout. Heroin is not in the
Bible. Does it fall into the "grace item category"?

Yes it does.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
.

User: "ujb"

Title: Re: * UJB SAYS THAT HEROIN IS OKAY * 13 Jan 2005 05:04:44 PM
Pastor Dave wrote:


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:26 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

Pastor Dave wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:06:46 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

We do what's right, period. God does not call us to
sin and claim it is righteousness, because someone is
in anguish. Anguish over what? That we won't baptize
her baby, even though it isn't Scriptural to do so?
Why do you consider the anguish of the mother first,
instead of first considering whether what's going on is
of God? Think about that.


None of the above are a problem with me, but you have not shown
it's forbidden. If it's not forbidden it falls into the grace
item category.


Once again, that's a copout. Heroin is not in the
Bible. Does it fall into the "grace item category"?


Yes it does.

Didn't you say we were done? Did you just have to get in one
more dig with that lie in the subject line? Cool Pastor Dave, I
knew I liked you for more than just your misinformation! :)
Always here for you if you take them running shoes off Dave,
ujb
.
User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: * UJB SAYS THAT HEROIN IS OKAY * 14 Jan 2005 10:43:28 AM
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:04:44 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:



Pastor Dave wrote:


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:26 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

Pastor Dave wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:06:46 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

We do what's right, period. God does not call us to
sin and claim it is righteousness, because someone is
in anguish. Anguish over what? That we won't baptize
her baby, even though it isn't Scriptural to do so?
Why do you consider the anguish of the mother first,
instead of first considering whether what's going on is
of God? Think about that.


None of the above are a problem with me, but you have not shown
it's forbidden. If it's not forbidden it falls into the grace
item category.


Once again, that's a copout. Heroin is not in the
Bible. Does it fall into the "grace item category"?


Yes it does.



Didn't you say we were done?

We are.

Did you just have to get in one
more dig with that lie in the subject line?

It isn't a lie. You claimed that whatever is in the
"grace category" isn't something that God would condemn
anyone for and so, there is nothing wrong with a
Christian doing those things. You claimed this about
baby baptism, stating that it isn't specifically listed
in the Bible and so, falls into this "grace category".
I then said that shooting heroin is not specifically
listed in the Bible either and asked, "Does heroin fall
into the grace category?". You said, "Yes, it does.".

Cool Pastor Dave, I
knew I liked you for more than just your misinformation! :)

Misinformation? Those are your words. I simply quoted
them. Trying to lie your way out won't help.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
.
User: "ujb"

Title: Re: * UJB SAYS THAT HEROIN IS OKAY * 14 Jan 2005 05:51:05 PM
Pastor Dave wrote:


On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:04:44 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:



Pastor Dave wrote:


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:26 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

Pastor Dave wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:06:46 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

We do what's right, period. God does not call us to
sin and claim it is righteousness, because someone is
in anguish. Anguish over what? That we won't baptize
her baby, even though it isn't Scriptural to do so?
Why do you consider the anguish of the mother first,
instead of first considering whether what's going on is
of God? Think about that.


None of the above are a problem with me, but you have not shown
it's forbidden. If it's not forbidden it falls into the grace
item category.


Once again, that's a copout. Heroin is not in the
Bible. Does it fall into the "grace item category"?


Yes it does.



Didn't you say we were done?


We are.

I see! :)

Did you just have to get in one
more dig with that lie in the subject line?


It isn't a lie. You claimed that whatever is in the
"grace category" isn't something that God would condemn
anyone for and so, there is nothing wrong with a
Christian doing those things.

You'll have to show sweet sweet ujb said what you say? But I
remember you telling me I couldn't go on my feelings and to use
the Bible or some such thing, so if heroin isn't called a sin in
the Bible the only way I could call it a sin would to do like
you and make it a sin in my word and not in God's.

You claimed this about
baby baptism, stating that it isn't specifically listed
in the Bible and so, falls into this "grace category".

It's not listed as a prohibition in the Bible, but you have no
problem adding it as a sins it seems on your divine knowledge!

I then said that shooting heroin is not specifically
listed in the Bible either and asked, "Does heroin fall
into the grace category?". You said, "Yes, it does.".

It does Dave if it's not a sin, the same as would hold true for
wine or potato chips.

Cool Pastor Dave, I
knew I liked you for more than just your misinformation! :)


Misinformation? Those are your words. I simply quoted
them.

My words don't add anything to the Bible. You add your feelings
after you said I couldn't. What does that make you Pastor dave?

Trying to lie your way out won't help.

You Pastor Raymond have shown you are not above lying when you
can't document from the Bible your rationale, but I still like
you even in your weakness and denial.
ujb
.


User: "j w"

Title: Re: * UJB SAYS THAT HEROIN IS OKAY * 13 Jan 2005 10:13:01 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:04:44 -0500, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)



Pastor Dave wrote:


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:26 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

Pastor Dave wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:06:46 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

We do what's right, period. God does not call us to
sin and claim it is righteousness, because someone is
in anguish. Anguish over what? That we won't baptize
her baby, even though it isn't Scriptural to do so?
Why do you consider the anguish of the mother first,
instead of first considering whether what's going on is
of God? Think about that.


None of the above are a problem with me, but you have not shown
it's forbidden. If it's not forbidden it falls into the grace
item category.


Once again, that's a copout. Heroin is not in the
Bible. Does it fall into the "grace item category"?


Yes it does.



Didn't you say we were done? Did you just have to get in one
more dig with that lie in the subject line? Cool Pastor Dave, I
knew I liked you for more than just your misinformation! :)

You saying you like ANYONE is another of your pathological lies.
jw


Always here for you if you take them running shoes off Dave,
ujb

.
User: "ujb"

Title: Re: * UJB SAYS THAT HEROIN IS OKAY * 14 Jan 2005 02:43:04 AM
"j w


x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:04:44 -0500, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)



Pastor Dave wrote:


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:26 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

Pastor Dave wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:06:46 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, ujb <ujibwa@yahoo.com> pontificated:

We do what's right, period. God does not call us to
sin and claim it is righteousness, because someone is
in anguish. Anguish over what? That we won't baptize
her baby, even though it isn't Scriptural to do so?
Why do you consider the anguish of the mother first,
instead of first considering whether what's going on is
of God? Think about that.


None of the above are a problem with me, but you have not shown
it's forbidden. If it's not forbidden it falls into the grace
item category.


Once again, that's a copout. Heroin is not in the
Bible. Does it fall into the "grace item category"?


Yes it does.



Didn't you say we were done? Did you just have to get in one
more dig with that lie in the subject line? Cool Pastor Dave, I
knew I liked you for more than just your misinformation! :)


You saying you like ANYONE is another of your pathological lies.

jw

What ever mister professional author!
"Oh, Daddy! That feels so good! Mommy was lucky for you..."
Love ya big guy,
jimmy
.




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