"snowpheonix" <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote in message

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On Sep 24, 12:12 pm, "I.M. deLaw" <durondae_@_hotpop.com> wrote:

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On Sep 23, 10:56 am, Libertarius <Libertar...@nothingbutthe.truth>
wrote:

snowpheonix wrote:

On Sep 23, 4:11 am, "I.M. deLaw" <durondae_@_hotpop.com> wrote:

How does one believe it on faith when they have, in hand, so much
physical
evidence? What physical evidence do you have of a magical
fantastical
"creation" or an almighty god? Do you have his/her/it's DNA? A
toenail?
Hair from the god's head? What evidence do you have to even prove
your
god
exists

What Physical evidence do you have that wasn't created by an
intelligent source?

===>EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS,
the entire cosmic totality of ALL existence
from which your imaginary extraterrestrial "source"
is excluded by definition, thus could not possible exist.
It is a NULL CASE! -- L.

On the contrary, it took some intelligence for you to come to that
wrong conclusion and is further proof of a creator in effect because
that did not occur by random happening.

And what proof do you have to back this statement?

--- Stupidity snipped.

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I guess it was "stupidity snipped". It's called order and laws of the
universe. You should read some of them including things called Laws
of Physics.

I already have and.......... ?

Conservation of Mass-Energy: The total energy in a closed or isolated
system is constant, no matter what happens. Another law stated that
the mass in an isolated system is constant. When Einstein discovered
the relationship E=mc2, in other words that mass was a manifestation
of energy, the law was said to refer to the conservation of mass-
energy, which says the total of both is retained, although some may
change forms. The ultimate example of this is a nuclear explosion,
where mass transforms into energy.

Conservation of Momentum: The total momentum in a closed or isolated
system remains constant. An alternative of this is the law of angular
momentum.

What does thos have to do with a magical creation by a space alien out
there?

Collected Quotes from Albert Einstein

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more
violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move
in the opposite direction."
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

"I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details."

And the relevance of all these KBs below is..........

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
"The only real valuable thing is intuition."
"A person starts to live when he can live outside himself."
"I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice."
"God is subtle but he is not malicious."
"Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character."
"I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."
"The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility."
"Sometimes one pays most for the things one gets for nothing."
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is
blind."
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."
"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak
minds."
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age
eighteen."
"Science is a wonderful thing if one does not have to earn one's
living at it."
"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."
"God does not care about our mathematical difficulties. He integrates
empirically."

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by
understanding."
"The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is
comprehensible."
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used
when we created them."
"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he
learned in school."
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own
reason for existing."
"Do not worry about your difficulties in Mathematics. I can assure you
mine are still greater."
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm
not sure about the the universe."
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods."
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World
War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
"In order to form an immaculate member of a flock of sheep one must,
above all, be a sheep."
"The fear of death is the most unjustified of all fears, for there's
no risk of accident for someone who's dead."
"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable
superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able
to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."
"Yes, we have to divide up our time like that, between our politics
and our equations. But to me our equations are far more important, for
politics are only a matter of present concern. A mathematical equation
stands forever."
"The release of atom power has changed everything except our way of
thinking...the solution to this problem lies in the heart of mankind.
If only I had known, I should have become a watchmaker."
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities.
The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly
submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his
intelligence."
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is
the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is
a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe,
is as good as dead: his eyes are closed."
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy,
education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would
indeeded be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of
punishment and hope of reward after death."
"He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him
the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization
should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I
hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be
torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my
conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act
of murder."
"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us _universe_, a part
limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and
feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical
delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for
us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few
persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this
prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living
creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."
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