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"Donna Kupp" |
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16 Sep 2007 07:10:28 AM |
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#2 ARE YOU REALLY SAVED? |
Christianity has fallen away from God! Most of the organized church
system has wandered so far from the truth that it refuses to even
listen to the truth. The apostle Paul warned us that this would
happen. He said:
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate
for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires; and
will turn away their ears from THE TRUTH..."
2 Timothy 4:3 NAS
The Psalmist defines "the truth":
"and THY LAW is THE TRUTH."
Psalms 119:142 KJV
In both the business world and the religious world the formula for
success has become: "Give the people whatever they want!" The people
do not want the truth, they want their ears tickled with "smooth
things." Therefore it has been unpopular for the churches to teach
that we must
obey God's law and give up our lives on this earth to the service of
Jesus Christ. It may be unpopular, but that is exactly what Jesus
asked for, our life and nothing less. He said:
"...but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the
gospel's,
the same shall save it." Mark 8:35 KJV
He gave us no options; we must surrender this lifetime to Him, no
matter what it may cost! The first act of our surrender is to obey
God's law, just as Jesus said:
"...but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
Matthew 19:17 KJV
Sadly, many who have turned to Jesus for salvation have been led away
from obedience to the Ten Commandments by false teachers who tell them
that they may remain a "carnal" Christian (one who disobeys God's
commandments) and yet still be saved.
ALL WHO ACCEPT THEIR LIE WILL BE LOST!
IS THE CARNAL CHRISTIAN A BELIEVER?
Many professing Christians have been persuaded to think that they
have received eternal life despite their ongoing bondage to sin. They
are told they are born again children of God and saved forever the
moment they say: "I believe in Jesus and receive Him as my Saviour."
Their
teachers offer this verse as proof of the sinner's instant salvation:
"He who believes in the Son has eternal life;"
However, the rest of that verse is seldom quoted:
"but he who does not OBEY the Son shall not see life,
but the WRATH OF GOD abides on him."
John 3:36 NAS
They are being told that they do not have to obey; the only
requirement is that they "believe." Yet the apostle Paul said that
the mind that will not subject itself to the law of God is a carnal
(sinful) mind and hostile toward God. He wrote:
"...the CARNAL MIND is enmity (hostile) against God:
for it IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF GOD,"
Romans 8:7 KJV
Is it possible that a person will inherit eternal life even if that
person is hostile toward God and will not obey His law? All major
denominations now say: "YES!", the carnal person will still be saved
if he "believes." The apostle Paul says "NO!":
"For to be carnally minded is death;"
Romans 8:6 KJV
This devastating doctrine of "The saved (but still carnal) Christian"
has been firmly established in our churches because the meaning of the
word believe is not always clear. The only true definition of what it
means to "believe" is the scriptural one found in John 3:36 (see
above).
Examine it carefully and you will see that ONLY THOSE WHO OBEY TRULY
BELIEVE.
THE PROOF! (John 3:36)
IF: One who believes in the Son has eternal life,
AND: One who does not obey shall not see life,
THEN: The one who does not obey, does not believe.
For it is clear that the one who shall not see life, could not
possibly have eternal life. Scripture does not allow any one who will
not obey to be counted a "believer." Thus any church that considers a
willfully disobedient person to have eternal life is teaching a fatal
error. One may be either disobedient or a believer, but not both.
There are no carnal believers...
Satan's lie ("the carnal Christian") is carefully designed to soothe
the conscience of those who seek the easy way. You may be sure that
all who profess it to be an option are deceived to some degree. Paul
did not teach that we had a third choice; quite to the contrary he
said:
1."For if you live according to the flesh YOU WILL DIE, but
2. if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body YOU WILL
LIVE."
Romans 8:13 RSV
In the New Testament, just as in the Old Testament, there are only two
choices: death or life; sin or righteousness. Paul gave no hope to
the sinful man when he said:
"You are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which
leads
to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness."
Romans 6:16 RSV
In his letter to the Galatians, verse 5:19, Paul described the deeds
of the flesh (our sinful nature) and then went on to make the
requirement for the cleansing of the flesh absolutely clear.
"Now those who belong to Christ Jesus
have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires."
Galatians 5:24 NAS
Please stop and take note of the past tense that Paul used. The
apostle did not say they will crucify the flesh, he did not say that
they had a choice or that it would be done for them. He said they had
already crucified the flesh.
Those who truly belong to Christ Jesus - those who are "His" - have
already crucified their own sinful nature. Therefore, by that verse
those who are seeking God have an infallible measuring stick within
themselves. They have only to look at their own lifestyle to see
where they stand with God. If they have not yet totally committed
themselves to put to death the deeds of the body through obedience to
God's law, they do not yet "belong" to Jesus. No one can deceive you,
nor can you deceive yourself if you measure by the Ten Commandments.
The strategy of Satan in the modern church has been to make people
believe that they have eternal life the moment they accept Jesus as
their personal Saviour. (A very easy path indeed!) The act of
receiving Jesus does bring joy to the heart; however, it reveals that
they now have the right (or power) to become a child of God. (born-
again) They now have the gift of faith from God which enables them to
surrender this life to God. (If they will!) The apostle John showed
us the process of salvation when he wrote this verse:
"But as many as RECEIVED Him,
to them He gave the right TO BECOME children of God..." (born-again)
John 1:12 NAS
Jesus said:
"the way is narrow that leads to life,
and FEW are those who find it."
Matthew 7:14 NAS
The first step on that narrow path to life is to repent of our sin and
accept (receive) Jesus as our Saviour. The next step is to accept
Jesus as our LORD and surrender all of our heart, our soul, our
strength and our mind to serve Him forever. The mark of a servant is
that he obeys
the commandments of his Master.
These ideas were commonly taught in the early church Fathers (pre 300
AD) but have been largely discarded by modern Christianity. The
modern day church is unable to recognize the "man of LAWlessness"
because they have set aside God's law and/or the necessity of
obedience in order to inherit eternal life.
Donna Kupp
I am not a Seventh Day Adventist (and never have been), a natural Jew,
or a Catholic. I am simply the least of Christ's brethren who love
Him and keep His Commandments.
The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
http://www.freetruth.info
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| User: "L.T. David" |
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| Title: Re: #2 ARE YOU REALLY SAVED? |
16 Sep 2007 07:31:11 AM |
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"Donna Kupp" <dkupp@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1189944628.545017.129980@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Christianity has fallen away from God! Most of the organized church
system has wandered so far from the truth that it refuses to even
listen to the truth.
Unfounded assertion. Because people are more educated is no reason to claim
they are less Christian, they are just more human, less dumb animal like.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: #2 ARE YOU REALLY SAVED? |
20 Sep 2007 01:59:51 AM |
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:10:28 -0700, Donna Kupp <dkupp@charter.net>
wrote:
Christianity has fallen away from God! Most of the organized church
system has wandered so far from the truth that it refuses to even
listen to the truth. The apostle Paul warned us that this would
happen. He said:
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate
for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires; and
will turn away their ears from THE TRUTH..."
2 Timothy 4:3 NAS
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