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User: "toJesus"
Date: 07 Jul 2004 10:14:44 PM
Object: A Comedy of End Time Web-Sites!!
**** COMEDY OF THE PROPHETIC END-TIME WEB-SITES ****
*** FOLLOWED BY A CHRISTIAN BIBLE STUDY ***
**** PLEASE EXCUSE SOME SLIGHT EXAGGERATIONS ****
After reviewing exactly 666 Prophetic End-Time Web-Sites I have made a
composite of what you might expect when reading an article on the average
End-Time Web-Site:
!!FLASH!!! After comparing Daniel 6:66 with Revelation 66:6 with in-depth,
flawless exegesis we have come to the following STARTLING &
**NON-REFUTABLE** conclusions:
We have now absolutely concluded that the evil King from the North in all
Prophecies is none other than *Santa Claus* from the North *POLE*!!!!!!!! At
the beginning of the Great Tribulation he will make a Treaty with another
*POLE* from Poland who now rules the Unholy Roman Empire!!!!!!!! They will
conquer and then *POLE*ARIZE* the Righteous Kingdom of Metropolis and their
Heavenly Ruler, Saint Superman VI !!!!!!!!!
And Now we will solve the Sacred Mystery kept secret thru the Ages and now
revealed only to this Sacred Web-Site: If you move the middle letter of
Santa's name or "N": SA(N)TA to the end of his name: SATA(N) it spells SATAN
!!!!!!!!! And therefore, SANTA is really SATAN !!!!!!!!!! And now you know
why SANTA or SATAN always wears *FIERY RED* outfits !!!!!!!!! And %"Ya betta
watch out, for SANTA *CLAWS* is comin to town!" !!!!!!!!!! BOO !!!!!!!!!!
!!FLASH!! We have now absolutely confirmed thru the *NONREFUTABLE* process
of Carbon (C-14) Dating that the *BAT* of Barry Bonds is really the
miraculous *STAFF OF MOSES* !!!!!!!!! We are now thoroughly investigating
the possibility that Barry Bonds (?? MOSES ??) & Sammy Sosa (?? ELIJAH ??)
may be the Two Witnesses from Heaven as per Revelation 11:3. Tune into our
Fantastic Web-Site daily for we are about to unravel this *STUPIFYING
MYSTERY* !!!!!!!!!
****WARNING!! BE PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE GREAT TRIBULATION: If you are no
longer absolutely sure of our Pre-Trib Rapture FAIRY TALE we now have a
fantastic **APOCALYPTIC SPECIAL** on all Post-Trib Annuities and Insurance P
olicies !!!!!!!!!
We now accept all Major and Minor League Credit Cards and all *SMILING*
Barry Bonds Baseball Cards. However, *PIGGY BANKS* & *FOOD STAMPS* are now
both *UNACCEPTABLE* and **NONREFUNDABLE** !!!!!!!!!
AND NOW WE GET SERIOUS:
****JESUS SAYS**** IN LUKE 21:33: *** "HEAVEN & EARTH WILL PASS AWAY BUT MY
WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY" ***
There are some who believe that most or all of the Commands of Jesus are not
for "Church Age" saints and were not to be taught by the Apostles after the
coming of the Holy Spirit. They believe that all of the Commands and
Teachings of Jesus before his crucifixion were for ** Jews only** in a
future dispensation after the "Church Age".
Let us examine God's Flawless Word concerning the above view:
QUESTION: Are the Words of Jesus (*BEFORE* His Crucifixion) in John 3:3 &
John 3:16 for *JEWS ONLY*??
John 14:15,23-24; 15:10,14; Jesus says, "**IF** you love Me, you will obey
what I Command..... **IF** anyone loves Me, he will obey My Words. Then My
Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our Home with him. He
who does not love Me will not obey My Words... "**IF** you obey My Commands,
you will remain in My love... You are My friends **IF** you do what I
Command."
John 14:25,26: Jesus says, "All this I have spoken while still with you. But
the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in MY Name, will
teach you all things and will REMIND YOU OF **EVERYTHING** I HAVE SAID TO
YOU*" (**EVERYTHING** would include *ALL* of the Commands & Teachings of
Jesus *BEFORE* His crucifixion.)
**AFTER** His resurrection Jesus says in Matthew 28:19,20: "Go and make
disciples of all nations.... teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have
Commanded you." (*EVERYTHING* would of course include *ALL* the Commandments
of Jesus *BEFORE* His Crucifixion)
Matt 7:24: Jesus says, "Everyone who hears these Words of Mine and *PUTS
THEM INTO PRACTICE* is like a wise man who built his house on the rock."
I John 2:3,4: "We know that we have come to know Jesus **IF** WE OBEY HIS
COMMANDS**. The man who says, 'I know Jesus,' but does not do what Jesus
Commands is a liar and the truth is not in him."
**** IS IT AN UNPARDONABE SIN TO NOT ACCEPT ALL THE WORDS OF JESUS??
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My
Words; that very Word which I spoke will **CONDEMN** him on the Last Day!"
Are there any passages in God's Word which state or imply that we don't have
to obey all the Commands of Jesus?? P-L-E-A-S-E, do not hold your breath
until you find one!!
Many Christians do not realize that the Hyper-Dispensationalist View was
started by Darby/Scofield around 1850, and is an *Essential Cornerstone* of
the pre-trib rapture theory. Since there is only a Post-Trib Resurrection
mentioned in Matthew 24 as per Matt 24:29-31; they decided that Matt
24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27 & Luke 21:25-28 must be *A JEWS ONLY RESURRECTION*
at the end of the future Great Tribulation. And to be consistent they put
forth the evil idea that *ALL* of the Commandments and Teachings of Jesus
before His crucifixion were also *FOR JEWS ONLY* during the Great
Tribulation; even though there is not one Word of Scripture to support this
subtle heresy.
**** IS IT AN UNPARDONABE SIN TO NOT ACCEPT ALL THE WORDS OF JESUS??
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My
Words; that very Word which I spoke will **CONDEMN** him on the Last Day!".
There are 6 more unpardonable sins in the Book of Revelation. Four of these
are for Tribulation participants only (See Rev 14:9-11). However *TWO* of
these unpardonable sins apply to everyone right now:
Rev 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel; to give *YOU* (The Greek for
*YOU* is plural and therefore includes *ALL SAINTS*) this testimony (ALL OF
REVELATION) *FOR THE CHURCHES*"
"I warn EVERYONE who hears the words of the Prophecy of this Book: If
(#1)*ANYONE ADDS ANYTHING* to them, God will add to him the plagues
(Including Hell) described in this Book. And if (#2) *ANYONE TAKES WORDS
AWAY* from this Book of Prophecy, God will take away from him his share in
the Tree of Life."
Many pre-tribbers claim that a pre-trib rapture takes place in Rev 4:1??
which is quite a ridiculous *ADDITION* (See Rev 22:18) It is quite obvious
that a pre-trib rapture is not even slightly implied or mentioned in the
End-Time text of Rev 4 thru 19 as well as Matthew 24!
By comparing Rev 12:6b & Rev 12:14b we find that 1260 Days and Time (360
Days), Times (720 Days) and 1/2 a Time (180 Days) are the exact same period
of time. Likewise, when we compare Rev 13:5b with Dan 7:25b we learn that 42
(30-day Bible) Months and Time (12 Months), Times (24 Months) and 1/2 a Time
(6 Months) are also the exact same period of time. And therefore 42 (30-day
Bible) Months are the exact same period of time as 1260 days; since 42 X 30
days equal exactly 1260 days.
Now there are some who suggest that the Anti-Christ will exercise his
authority for 7 years (Not 42 months) and that the Great Tribulation will
last 7 years (Not 1260 days or 3 1/2 Times). They have only ONE Bible verse
(Dan 9:27-which they grossly misinterpret) to support this idea which
absolutely contradicts God's Divine Time Periods as found in Rev 13:5b, Dan
7:25b & Dan 12:1,2,7b:
Dan 7:24b,25: "A *KING* will arise.... He will speak against the Most High
and oppress His saints. The saints will be handed over to him for a Time,
Times and 1/2 a Time." (Which is also 42 (30-day) Months or 1260 Days--*NOT*
7 years)
Rev 13:5,7a: "The Beast will utter proud words and blasphemies and will
exercise his authority for *42 MONTHS* (Which is also 1260 Days or Time,
Times and 1/2 a Time--*NOT* 7 years)
And then in Dan 12:1,2,6b,7b we learn that the resurrection of the saved and
lost will occur at the "END" of the Great Tribulation that will last for
Time, Times and 1/2 a Time which is also 42 Months or 1260 DAYS--*NOT* 7
years.
Dan 12:7b: "It will be for a Time, Times and 1/2 a Time (Or 1260 DAYS). When
the power of the holy people has been finally broken *ALL THESE THINGS* (The
Great Tribulation followed by the resurrection of the saved & lost as per
Dan 12:1b,2) WILL BE *COMPLETED*!!"
NOTE: The *ONLY TIME* that Paul mentions the Anti-Christ or Man of
Lawlessness (Who will rule the world during the 1260-day Tribulation) is in
2 Thess 2:3-9. 2 Thess 2:9: "The coming of the Lawless One will be in
accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit
miracles, signs and wonders." 2 Thess 1:1; 2:1,3,8: "To the *CHURCH* of the
Thessalonians... Concerning the *COMING* of our Lord Jesus Christ and *OUR*
being gathered to Him... Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for *THAT
DAY* will not come *UNTIL* the Man of Lawlessness is revealed!!, the Man
doomed to destruction... Then the Lawless One will be revealed whom the Lord
Jesus will destroy with the splendor of His *COMING*!" And so Paul
absolutely confirms that the *COMING* of the Lord Jesus will come on the
*LAST DAY* of the Great Tribulation and of 666 when His *CHURCH* saints will
be gathered to Him! And Mark 13:11b absolutely contradicts the idea (From a
wrong interpretation of 2 Thess 2:7) that the Holy Spirit will be removed
from the Tribulation saints. 2 Thess 2:6 paraphrased with obvious additions:
"The reason that the Coming of the Man of Lawlessness is being held back: is
that he may be revealed at the *PROPER TIME*." (Which would be exactly 1260
days before the *COMING* of our Lord Jesus on the *LAST DAY*. (See John
6:39,40,44; 12:48)
God just wants us to say *YES* (See 2 Cor 1:19,20) to *ALL* of His NT
Commandments. *ONLY JESUS* can and will help us when we just say *YES* with
all of our heart, and soul, and mind. And when Jesus comes again on the Last
Day of the 1260-day Tribulation He will (Rev 22:12) "Reward everyone
according to what he has done."
The *FIRST* End-Time event Christians should be looking for is the Coming of
Moses and Elijah from Heaven to warn God's saints of the coming power of
Satan, the False Prophet, the Anti-Christ and the 1260-day Great
Tribulation. This could happen at *ANY TIME*!! I Pet 1:13: "Therefore,
prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be
given you when Jesus Christ is revealed!" This will certainly come as a
great shock to the pre-tribbers who wrongly believe that they will be safely
cheering the Faithful and Courageous Tribulation Saints from the Heavenly
sidelines.
Matt 24:9-13: Jesus said, (During the Great Tribulation) "Then you will be
handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all
nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the Faith and
will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and
deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of
*MOST* (THE GREAT APOSTASY) will grow cold, but he (The Called, Chosen &
Faithful-Rev 17:14b) who stands firm to the End will be saved." Matt
24:29-31: Jesus said, "Immediately after the distress of those (1260)
days.... The stars will fall from the sky.... At that time the sign of the
Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will
mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with
power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud *TRUMPET
CALL*(See I Thess 4:16; I Cor 15:52 & Rev 11:15,18), and they will gather
His elect from the 4 winds, (Mk 13:27b adds:) from the ends of the earth to
the ends of the Heavens!!" And so JESUS was a *POST-TRIB PROPHET* just as
Daniel was in Dan 7:21,22; 25-27 & Dan 12:1,2,7; and Paul in 2 Thess 2:1-9;
and John in Rev l4:9-16.
If you would like a free in-depth End-Time Bible Study (111 KB's), or if you
would like to share your views concerning God's Word please feel free to
contact Richard: By E-MAIL at toJesus@earthlink.net.
.

User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: A Comedy of End Time Web-Sites!! 08 Jul 2004 06:38:29 AM
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:14:44 GMT, "toJesus"
<tojesus@earthlink.net> posted thusly:
Let me start this by saying, I am definitely not a
pre-tribber.

"I warn EVERYONE who hears the words of the Prophecy of this Book: If
(#1)*ANYONE ADDS ANYTHING* to them, God will add to him the plagues
(Including Hell) described in this Book. And if (#2) *ANYONE TAKES WORDS
AWAY* from this Book of Prophecy, God will take away from him his share in
the Tree of Life."

Keep this in mind.

By comparing Rev 12:6b & Rev 12:14b we find that 1260 Days and Time (360
Days), Times (720 Days) and 1/2 a Time (180 Days) are the exact same period
of time. Likewise, when we compare Rev 13:5b with Dan 7:25b we learn that 42
(30-day Bible) Months and Time (12 Months), Times (24 Months) and 1/2 a Time
(6 Months) are also the exact same period of time. And therefore 42 (30-day
Bible) Months are the exact same period of time as 1260 days; since 42 X 30
days equal exactly 1260 days.

Now there are some who suggest that the Anti-Christ will exercise his
authority for 7 years (Not 42 months) and that the Great Tribulation will
last 7 years (Not 1260 days or 3 1/2 Times). They have only ONE Bible verse
(Dan 9:27-which they grossly misinterpret) to support this idea which
absolutely contradicts God's Divine Time Periods as found in Rev 13:5b, Dan
7:25b & Dan 12:1,2,7b:

Dan 7:24b,25: "A *KING* will arise.... He will speak against the Most High
and oppress His saints. The saints will be handed over to him for a Time,
Times and 1/2 a Time." (Which is also 42 (30-day) Months or 1260 Days--*NOT*
7 years)

Rev 13:5,7a: "The Beast will utter proud words and blasphemies and will
exercise his authority for *42 MONTHS* (Which is also 1260 Days or Time,
Times and 1/2 a Time--*NOT* 7 years)

And then in Dan 12:1,2,6b,7b we learn that the resurrection of the saved and
lost will occur at the "END" of the Great Tribulation that will last for
Time, Times and 1/2 a Time which is also 42 Months or 1260 DAYS--*NOT* 7
years.

Dan 12:7b: "It will be for a Time, Times and 1/2 a Time (Or 1260 DAYS). When
the power of the holy people has been finally broken *ALL THESE THINGS* (The
Great Tribulation followed by the resurrection of the saved & lost as per
Dan 12:1b,2) WILL BE *COMPLETED*!!"

NOTE: The *ONLY TIME* that Paul mentions the Anti-Christ or Man of
Lawlessness (Who will rule the world during the 1260-day Tribulation) is in
2 Thess 2:3-9. 2 Thess 2:9: "The coming of the Lawless One will be in
accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit
miracles, signs and wonders." 2 Thess 1:1; 2:1,3,8: "To the *CHURCH* of the
Thessalonians... Concerning the *COMING* of our Lord Jesus Christ and *OUR*
being gathered to Him... Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for *THAT
DAY* will not come *UNTIL* the Man of Lawlessness is revealed!!, the Man
doomed to destruction... Then the Lawless One will be revealed whom the Lord
Jesus will destroy with the splendor of His *COMING*!" And so Paul
absolutely confirms that the *COMING* of the Lord Jesus will come on the
*LAST DAY* of the Great Tribulation and of 666 when His *CHURCH* saints will
be gathered to Him! And Mark 13:11b absolutely contradicts the idea (From a
wrong interpretation of 2 Thess 2:7) that the Holy Spirit will be removed
from the Tribulation saints. 2 Thess 2:6 paraphrased with obvious additions:
"The reason that the Coming of the Man of Lawlessness is being held back: is
that he may be revealed at the *PROPER TIME*." (Which would be exactly 1260
days before the *COMING* of our Lord Jesus on the *LAST DAY*. (See John
6:39,40,44; 12:48)

God just wants us to say *YES* (See 2 Cor 1:19,20) to *ALL* of His NT
Commandments. *ONLY JESUS* can and will help us when we just say *YES* with
all of our heart, and soul, and mind. And when Jesus comes again on the Last
Day of the 1260-day Tribulation He will (Rev 22:12) "Reward everyone
according to what he has done."

The *FIRST* End-Time event Christians should be looking for is the Coming of
Moses and Elijah from Heaven to warn God's saints of the coming power of
Satan, the False Prophet, the Anti-Christ and the 1260-day Great
Tribulation.

Remember that point you made above, about "adding
words"? Where does it say this? In fact, Jesus said
that Elijah already returned.
Matthew 11:12-14
12) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the
kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent
take it by force.
13) For all the prophets and the law prophesied until
John.
14) And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was
for to come.

This could happen at *ANY TIME*!! I Pet 1:13: "Therefore,
prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be
given you when Jesus Christ is revealed!" This will certainly come as a
great shock to the pre-tribbers who wrongly believe that they will be safely
cheering the Faithful and Courageous Tribulation Saints from the Heavenly
sidelines.

Matt 24:9-13: Jesus said, (During the Great Tribulation) "Then you will be
handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all
nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the Faith and
will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and
deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of
*MOST* (THE GREAT APOSTASY) will grow cold, but he (The Called, Chosen &
Faithful-Rev 17:14b) who stands firm to the End will be saved." Matt
24:29-31: Jesus said, "Immediately after the distress of those (1260)
days.... The stars will fall from the sky.... At that time the sign of the
Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will
mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with
power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud *TRUMPET
CALL*(See I Thess 4:16; I Cor 15:52 & Rev 11:15,18), and they will gather
His elect from the 4 winds, (Mk 13:27b adds:) from the ends of the earth to
the ends of the Heavens!!" And so JESUS was a *POST-TRIB PROPHET* just as
Daniel was in Dan 7:21,22; 25-27 & Dan 12:1,2,7; and Paul in 2 Thess 2:1-9;
and John in Rev l4:9-16.

This is the claim. Yet I personally believe this all
happened in the first century.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: A Comedy of End Time Web-Sites!! 08 Jul 2004 07:39:04 AM
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:14:44 GMT, "toJesus"
<tojesus@earthlink.net> posted thusly:
Let me start this by saying, I am definitely not a
pre-tribber.

"I warn EVERYONE who hears the words of the Prophecy of this Book: If
(#1)*ANYONE ADDS ANYTHING* to them, God will add to him the plagues
(Including Hell) described in this Book. And if (#2) *ANYONE TAKES WORDS
AWAY* from this Book of Prophecy, God will take away from him his share in
the Tree of Life."

Keep this in mind.

By comparing Rev 12:6b & Rev 12:14b we find that 1260 Days and Time (360
Days), Times (720 Days) and 1/2 a Time (180 Days) are the exact same period
of time. Likewise, when we compare Rev 13:5b with Dan 7:25b we learn that 42
(30-day Bible) Months and Time (12 Months), Times (24 Months) and 1/2 a Time
(6 Months) are also the exact same period of time. And therefore 42 (30-day
Bible) Months are the exact same period of time as 1260 days; since 42 X 30
days equal exactly 1260 days.

Now there are some who suggest that the Anti-Christ will exercise his
authority for 7 years (Not 42 months) and that the Great Tribulation will
last 7 years (Not 1260 days or 3 1/2 Times). They have only ONE Bible verse
(Dan 9:27-which they grossly misinterpret) to support this idea which
absolutely contradicts God's Divine Time Periods as found in Rev 13:5b, Dan
7:25b & Dan 12:1,2,7b:

Dan 7:24b,25: "A *KING* will arise.... He will speak against the Most High
and oppress His saints. The saints will be handed over to him for a Time,
Times and 1/2 a Time." (Which is also 42 (30-day) Months or 1260 Days--*NOT*
7 years)

Rev 13:5,7a: "The Beast will utter proud words and blasphemies and will
exercise his authority for *42 MONTHS* (Which is also 1260 Days or Time,
Times and 1/2 a Time--*NOT* 7 years)

And then in Dan 12:1,2,6b,7b we learn that the resurrection of the saved and
lost will occur at the "END" of the Great Tribulation that will last for
Time, Times and 1/2 a Time which is also 42 Months or 1260 DAYS--*NOT* 7
years.

Dan 12:7b: "It will be for a Time, Times and 1/2 a Time (Or 1260 DAYS). When
the power of the holy people has been finally broken *ALL THESE THINGS* (The
Great Tribulation followed by the resurrection of the saved & lost as per
Dan 12:1b,2) WILL BE *COMPLETED*!!"

NOTE: The *ONLY TIME* that Paul mentions the Anti-Christ or Man of
Lawlessness (Who will rule the world during the 1260-day Tribulation) is in
2 Thess 2:3-9. 2 Thess 2:9: "The coming of the Lawless One will be in
accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit
miracles, signs and wonders." 2 Thess 1:1; 2:1,3,8: "To the *CHURCH* of the
Thessalonians... Concerning the *COMING* of our Lord Jesus Christ and *OUR*
being gathered to Him... Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for *THAT
DAY* will not come *UNTIL* the Man of Lawlessness is revealed!!, the Man
doomed to destruction... Then the Lawless One will be revealed whom the Lord
Jesus will destroy with the splendor of His *COMING*!" And so Paul
absolutely confirms that the *COMING* of the Lord Jesus will come on the
*LAST DAY* of the Great Tribulation and of 666 when His *CHURCH* saints will
be gathered to Him! And Mark 13:11b absolutely contradicts the idea (From a
wrong interpretation of 2 Thess 2:7) that the Holy Spirit will be removed
from the Tribulation saints. 2 Thess 2:6 paraphrased with obvious additions:
"The reason that the Coming of the Man of Lawlessness is being held back: is
that he may be revealed at the *PROPER TIME*." (Which would be exactly 1260
days before the *COMING* of our Lord Jesus on the *LAST DAY*. (See John
6:39,40,44; 12:48)

God just wants us to say *YES* (See 2 Cor 1:19,20) to *ALL* of His NT
Commandments. *ONLY JESUS* can and will help us when we just say *YES* with
all of our heart, and soul, and mind. And when Jesus comes again on the Last
Day of the 1260-day Tribulation He will (Rev 22:12) "Reward everyone
according to what he has done."

The *FIRST* End-Time event Christians should be looking for is the Coming of
Moses and Elijah from Heaven to warn God's saints of the coming power of
Satan, the False Prophet, the Anti-Christ and the 1260-day Great
Tribulation.

Remember that point you made above, about "adding
words"? Where does it say this? In fact, Jesus said
that Elijah already returned.
Matthew 11:12-14
12) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the
kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent
take it by force.
13) For all the prophets and the law prophesied until
John.
14) And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was
for to come.

This could happen at *ANY TIME*!! I Pet 1:13: "Therefore,
prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be
given you when Jesus Christ is revealed!" This will certainly come as a
great shock to the pre-tribbers who wrongly believe that they will be safely
cheering the Faithful and Courageous Tribulation Saints from the Heavenly
sidelines.

Matt 24:9-13: Jesus said, (During the Great Tribulation) "Then you will be
handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all
nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the Faith and
will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and
deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of
*MOST* (THE GREAT APOSTASY) will grow cold, but he (The Called, Chosen &
Faithful-Rev 17:14b) who stands firm to the End will be saved." Matt
24:29-31: Jesus said, "Immediately after the distress of those (1260)
days.... The stars will fall from the sky.... At that time the sign of the
Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will
mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with
power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud *TRUMPET
CALL*(See I Thess 4:16; I Cor 15:52 & Rev 11:15,18), and they will gather
His elect from the 4 winds, (Mk 13:27b adds:) from the ends of the earth to
the ends of the Heavens!!" And so JESUS was a *POST-TRIB PROPHET* just as
Daniel was in Dan 7:21,22; 25-27 & Dan 12:1,2,7; and Paul in 2 Thess 2:1-9;
and John in Rev l4:9-16.

This is the claim. Yet I personally believe this all
happened in the first century.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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