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User: "SJAB1958"
Date: 12 Oct 2006 06:36:42 AM
Object: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists
I have a number of questions for those of you out there who believe the
Bible to be the literal truth, but I respectfully request that any
answers forthcoming be free of abuse and as rational as possible.
1. How did Adam know about fathers, mothers and wives, as he was the
first human being? (Gen 1:24)
2. How come the serpent in the Garden of Eden was able to talk? (Gen
3:1)
3. Why didn't Adam and Eve die when they ate the fruit of the tree of
knowledge of good and evil? (Gen 3:6)
4. How did Adam and Eve know how to weave leaves together to make
aprons? (Gen 3:7)
5. Why was Abel's offering of burnt flesh acceptable to God at a time
when mankind was still supposed to be plant-eaters? (Gen 4:4-5)
6. How come Shem the son of Noah and most of his descendants live to be
so old when God had already ordained that man would live no more than
120 years? (Gen 6:3)
7. How many of each kind went into the ark? Was it two of every sort
(Gen 6:19-20); or was it the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos
(Gen 7:2-3); or was it two and two?
8. Why did God decide to allow men to eat meat after the flood, when he
had initially created them to be plant-eaters? (Gen 9:3)
.

User: "James"

Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 09 Nov 2006 11:01:41 AM

"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com>
Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists
I have a number of questions for those of you out there who believe the
Bible to be the literal truth, but I respectfully request that any
answers forthcoming be free of abuse and as rational as possible.

1. How did Adam know about fathers, mothers and wives, as he was the
first human being? (Gen 1:24)

Hello,
I assume you meant Ge 2:24. Since God instituted the marriage
arrangement, then He likely told Adam some details about it. Genesis
does not record every conversation between God and Adam, or between
Adam and Eve etc.


2. How come the serpent in the Garden of Eden was able to talk? (Gen
3:1)

Because a powerful rebel angel, Satan, was using it as a tool to fool
Eve into disobeying God. That is why Revelation refers to Satan as the
"ancient serpent". (Re 12:9)


3. Why didn't Adam and Eve die when they ate the fruit of the tree of
knowledge of good and evil? (Gen 3:6)

They did. Both of them died just as God said. Also keep in mind that a
"day" to God is 1000 years. (2 Pe 3:8) Thus they both died before
God's "day" was completed.


4. How did Adam and Eve know how to weave leaves together to make
aprons? (Gen 3:7)

Obviously that knowledge was given them, just like God gave craft
skills to the Israelites to make much of their infrastructure.


5. Why was Abel's offering of burnt flesh acceptable to God at a time
when mankind was still supposed to be plant-eaters? (Gen 4:4-5)

There are several reasons why God accepted Abel's sacrifice over
Cain's. But to stick with your inquiry of an animal sacrifice at a
time that humans were supposed to be vegetarians by divine mandate,
nothing in those verses said that Abel was eating those animals.
Rather he would have been raising them for other reasons, such as
their wool etc.
Also, something with blood in it was more valuable than something
bloodless. This was also later revealed to Noah (Ge 9:4), and then
even more details given to the ancient Israelites. (De 12:23) But that
wouldn't have been the main reason why God accepted Abel's sacrifice.
(more on this if you wish)


6. How come Shem the son of Noah and most of his descendants live to be
so old when God had already ordained that man would live no more than
120 years? (Gen 6:3)

This translation makes it more clear. Ge 6:3 reads:
"Then Jehovah said, 'My Spirit must not forever be disgraced in man,
wholly evil as he is. I will give him 120 years to mend his ways.'''
(Living Bible)
Thus the 120 years was not referring to individual human longevity,
but was a warning giving to the human race that they would be judged
at the end of those days if they didn't turn around from doing bad.
But they never did turn around, so just as God said, right after that
time period expired, the flood came and "swept them all away" (Mt
24:39)


7. How many of each kind went into the ark? Was it two of every sort
(Gen 6:19-20); or was it the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos
(Gen 7:2-3); or was it two and two?

Many times the Bible adds details later on. By combining those verses,
we can get at the actual mandate. Unclean animals were to go in by
two's, clean animals were to go in by sevens.


8. Why did God decide to allow men to eat meat after the flood, when he
had initially created them to be plant-eaters? (Gen 9:3)

The Bible doesn't answer that one. So any answers would be
speculation. At any rate, the prohibition about blood continued in
effect, and still does today. (Ge 9:4; Ac 15:29)
I hope the above Scriptural answers have helped you.
Sincerely, James
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User: "G-Net"

Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 10 Nov 2006 04:30:20 PM
"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
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"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com>
Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists


I have a number of questions for those of you out there who believe the
Bible to be the literal truth, but I respectfully request that any
answers forthcoming be free of abuse and as rational as possible.

1. How did Adam know about fathers, mothers and wives, as he was the
first human being? (Gen 1:24)


Hello,

I assume you meant Ge 2:24. Since God instituted the marriage
arrangement, then He likely told Adam some details about it. Genesis
does not record every conversation between God and Adam, or between
Adam and Eve etc.


2. How come the serpent in the Garden of Eden was able to talk? (Gen
3:1)


Because a powerful rebel angel, Satan, was using it as a tool to fool
Eve into disobeying God. That is why Revelation refers to Satan as the
"ancient serpent". (Re 12:9)


3. Why didn't Adam and Eve die when they ate the fruit of the tree of
knowledge of good and evil? (Gen 3:6)


They did. Both of them died just as God said. Also keep in mind that a
"day" to God is 1000 years. (2 Pe 3:8) Thus they both died before
God's "day" was completed.


4. How did Adam and Eve know how to weave leaves together to make
aprons? (Gen 3:7)


Obviously that knowledge was given them, just like God gave craft
skills to the Israelites to make much of their infrastructure.


5. Why was Abel's offering of burnt flesh acceptable to God at a time
when mankind was still supposed to be plant-eaters? (Gen 4:4-5)


There are several reasons why God accepted Abel's sacrifice over
Cain's. But to stick with your inquiry of an animal sacrifice at a
time that humans were supposed to be vegetarians by divine mandate,
nothing in those verses said that Abel was eating those animals.
Rather he would have been raising them for other reasons, such as
their wool etc.

Also, something with blood in it was more valuable than something
bloodless. This was also later revealed to Noah (Ge 9:4), and then
even more details given to the ancient Israelites. (De 12:23) But that
wouldn't have been the main reason why God accepted Abel's sacrifice.
(more on this if you wish)


6. How come Shem the son of Noah and most of his descendants live to be
so old when God had already ordained that man would live no more than
120 years? (Gen 6:3)


This translation makes it more clear. Ge 6:3 reads:

"Then Jehovah said, 'My Spirit must not forever be disgraced in man,
wholly evil as he is. I will give him 120 years to mend his ways.'''
(Living Bible)

Thus the 120 years was not referring to individual human longevity,
but was a warning giving to the human race that they would be judged
at the end of those days if they didn't turn around from doing bad.
But they never did turn around, so just as God said, right after that
time period expired, the flood came and "swept them all away" (Mt
24:39)


7. How many of each kind went into the ark? Was it two of every sort
(Gen 6:19-20); or was it the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos
(Gen 7:2-3); or was it two and two?


Many times the Bible adds details later on. By combining those verses,
we can get at the actual mandate. Unclean animals were to go in by
two's, clean animals were to go in by sevens.


8. Why did God decide to allow men to eat meat after the flood, when he
had initially created them to be plant-eaters? (Gen 9:3)


The Bible doesn't answer that one. So any answers would be
speculation. At any rate, the prohibition about blood continued in
effect, and still does today. (Ge 9:4; Ac 15:29)

I hope the above Scriptural answers have helped you.

Sincerely, James

James, let me mention something to you that you may already know. These
questions were not put out there for answers! These questions were put out
there to trick some unsuspecting Christian into answering them. You see,
they didn't really want an answer they were merely trying to make a "point"
about how they THINK that the Bible is full of contradictions, errors, etc.,
etc.,
etc.
The people who play these sort of childish games think that they are so
smart
and that they have it all figured out. It doesn't matter what you say, what
proof
you offered nor how you offer it they will ignore and twist whatever you
say.
They wouldn't believe in God if He walked up their driveway. They are
determined to die in their sin and most likely will try to claim to God that
they
didn't know and that no one even tried to tell them the truth. What's even
more
sinister is that they are bent on taking as many people to hell with them as
they
possibly can. It's sad but don't waste your time on them, they are not worth
your trouble!
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 11 Nov 2006 12:00:02 AM
G-Net wrote:

"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote in message
news:qfj6l29vvtesdnfqnrdcchir7t2m1ndu0k@4ax.com...

"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com>
Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists


I have a number of questions for those of you out there who believe the
Bible to be the literal truth, but I respectfully request that any
answers forthcoming be free of abuse and as rational as possible.

1. How did Adam know about fathers, mothers and wives, as he was the
first human being? (Gen 1:24)


Hello,

I assume you meant Ge 2:24. Since God instituted the marriage
arrangement, then He likely told Adam some details about it. Genesis
does not record every conversation between God and Adam, or between
Adam and Eve etc.


2. How come the serpent in the Garden of Eden was able to talk? (Gen
3:1)


Because a powerful rebel angel, Satan, was using it as a tool to fool
Eve into disobeying God. That is why Revelation refers to Satan as the
"ancient serpent". (Re 12:9)


3. Why didn't Adam and Eve die when they ate the fruit of the tree of
knowledge of good and evil? (Gen 3:6)


They did. Both of them died just as God said. Also keep in mind that a
"day" to God is 1000 years. (2 Pe 3:8) Thus they both died before
God's "day" was completed.


4. How did Adam and Eve know how to weave leaves together to make
aprons? (Gen 3:7)


Obviously that knowledge was given them, just like God gave craft
skills to the Israelites to make much of their infrastructure.


5. Why was Abel's offering of burnt flesh acceptable to God at a time
when mankind was still supposed to be plant-eaters? (Gen 4:4-5)


There are several reasons why God accepted Abel's sacrifice over
Cain's. But to stick with your inquiry of an animal sacrifice at a
time that humans were supposed to be vegetarians by divine mandate,
nothing in those verses said that Abel was eating those animals.
Rather he would have been raising them for other reasons, such as
their wool etc.

Also, something with blood in it was more valuable than something
bloodless. This was also later revealed to Noah (Ge 9:4), and then
even more details given to the ancient Israelites. (De 12:23) But that
wouldn't have been the main reason why God accepted Abel's sacrifice.
(more on this if you wish)


6. How come Shem the son of Noah and most of his descendants live to be
so old when God had already ordained that man would live no more than
120 years? (Gen 6:3)


This translation makes it more clear. Ge 6:3 reads:

"Then Jehovah said, 'My Spirit must not forever be disgraced in man,
wholly evil as he is. I will give him 120 years to mend his ways.'''
(Living Bible)

Thus the 120 years was not referring to individual human longevity,
but was a warning giving to the human race that they would be judged
at the end of those days if they didn't turn around from doing bad.
But they never did turn around, so just as God said, right after that
time period expired, the flood came and "swept them all away" (Mt
24:39)


7. How many of each kind went into the ark? Was it two of every sort
(Gen 6:19-20); or was it the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos
(Gen 7:2-3); or was it two and two?


Many times the Bible adds details later on. By combining those verses,
we can get at the actual mandate. Unclean animals were to go in by
two's, clean animals were to go in by sevens.


8. Why did God decide to allow men to eat meat after the flood, when he
had initially created them to be plant-eaters? (Gen 9:3)


The Bible doesn't answer that one. So any answers would be
speculation. At any rate, the prohibition about blood continued in
effect, and still does today. (Ge 9:4; Ac 15:29)

I hope the above Scriptural answers have helped you.

Sincerely, James


James, let me mention something to you that you may already know. These
questions were not put out there for answers! These questions were put out
there to trick some unsuspecting Christian into answering them. You see,
they didn't really want an answer they were merely trying to make a "point"
about how they THINK that the Bible is full of contradictions, errors, etc.,
etc.,
etc.

The people who play these sort of childish games think that they are so
smart
and that they have it all figured out. It doesn't matter what you say, what
proof
you offered nor how you offer it they will ignore and twist whatever you
say.
They wouldn't believe in God if He walked up their driveway.

Aaaaah now that is where you are wrong, this is just the kind of thing we DO
ask for but never see,
even something akin to what you just said.

They are
determined to die in their sin and most likely will try to claim to God that
they
didn't know and that no one even tried to tell them the truth.

Idiot. Which god?
See the list below and kindly let me know,
after all I would not want to complain to the wrong one now, would I?

What's even
more
sinister is that they are bent on taking as many people to hell with them as

[Preface]
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one
fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other
possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
[Stephen Roberts]
Ahura Mazda, Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Abalim[Judaic]
Abba Amona[Judaic] Abraxis[Judaic]
Adam Beliyya'al'[Judaic] Adam Kadmon[Judaic]
Adonai[Judaic] Adonaiel[Judaic]
Akatriel-Yah[Judaic] Alitha[Judaic]
Alukah(Arpad Yiddish: Estrie)[Judaic] Anafiel[Judaic]
Angels[Judaic] Archons[Judaic] Asherah(Asherah)[Judaic]
Asmodeus(Asmodaios)[Judaic]
Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Baal[Judaic]
Baal-Karmelos[Judaic]
Bat Kol[Judaic] Beelzebub(Beelzebul Baalzebub)[Judaic]
Belial(Beliar)[Judaic]iBethel[ Syrian]
Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Cthulhu Chashmal[Judaic]
Chayyot[Judaic Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Dagon[Judaic]
Demiurge(Demiourgos Demogorgon)[Judaic]
Demons[Judaic] Devekut[Judaic] Dever[Judaic] Dumiel[Judaic]
Dybbuk[Judaic] Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim Eshu, Ereshkigal,
El(El 'Elyon)[Judaic] Elim[Judaic]
Elohim[Judaic] Elom[Judaic Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe,
Hera, Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Golem[Judaic] Ha-Shem[Judaic Hermes, Hestia,
Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, ] Ibbur Elim[Judaic]
Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai,
Kefitzat ha-Derekh[Judaic]
Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Lilith[Judaic]
Lotan[Judaic] Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Morrigan
Makon[Judaic]
Mammon[Judaic] Mastema[Judaic]
Mazikeen[Judaic] Mazzikin[Judaic]
Memra[Judaic/Aramaic] Metatron[Judaic]
Moloch[Judaic, Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys,
Nechushtan[Judaic]Nibhaz[Judaic]
Neptune, Nerthus. Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Obizoth[Judaic]
Ofanim(Ophanim Galgallim)[Judaic]
Oniel Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto,
Padkaras[Judaic]
Piznai[Judaic]
Potah[Judaic]
Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Ras Tafari
Ragshiel[Judaic]
Rahav[Judaic]
Reshef[Judaic](Plague)
Saturn, Set, Satan[Judaic](
Shabbat Hamalka[Judaic]
Shekhina[Judaic](Shekina Shechina)Judaism
Sophia[Judaic](Hakhma Chochma)
Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw,
Tanin'iver[Judaic](Blinddragon)
Tannin[Judaic]
Tarshishim[Judaic]
Terafim(Teraphim)[Judaic]
Tzadikiel[Judaic]
Tzakadhazy[Judaic]
Tzelanit[Judaic]
Tzeruf[Judaic]
Tzohar[Judaic]
Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus, XodA.
[Judaic]
Watcher[Judaic]Yhwh[yahweh][Judaic]
Yeddeoni[Judaic]
Yekum[Judaic]Yohani bat Retiviv[Judaic]
Zadkiel[Judaic]I
Zar[Judaic
African gods:
[Note under 'African Gods' the number devoted to 'Supremacy']
Abassi [Sky]
Abonsam [Evil]
Abora [Supreme]
Abzu [Water]
Acoran [Supreme]
Adaheli [Sun]
Adro [Sky]
Adroa [Sky]
Agassou [Panther]
Agbe-Naete [Water]
Age [Animals]
Aigamuxa [Monster]
Ajalamo[Unborn Children]
Aje [Wealth]
Ajok [Supreme]
Akonadi [Oracle]
Akongo [Supreme]
Akuj [Supreme]
Ala [Earth/Fertility]
Alatangana [Creator]
Amma [Creator]
Anansi [Trickster]
Anyiewo [Snake]
Aondo [Creator]
Apa [Creator]
Apedemak [War]
Arawa [Moon]
Arebati [Sky]
Arom [Contracts]
Arsan Duolai [Underworld]
Asase Ya [Earth]
Ashiakle [Wealth]
Asis [Sun]
Astar [Sky]
Ataa Naa
Nyongmo
[Creator]
Ataokoloinona [Supreme]
Atete [Fertility]
Avrikiti [Fishermen]
Ayabba
[Ayaba] [Hearth]
Bacax [Cave]
Bagba [Wind]
Balubaal [Earth+]
Bandara [Superior Gods]
Banga [Clear water]
Behanzin [Fish]
Beher [Sea]
Bera Pennu [Vegetation]
Bo [Warriors]
Bomazi[Ancestors]
Buadza [WInd]
Buck[River]
Buku [Sky]
Bumba [Creator]
Cagn [Creator]
(!Kaggen)
Cghene [Creator]
Chiuke
(Chuku) [Creator]
Chiata [Supreme]
Chwezi [Hero]
Col [Rain]
Chikara [Sky]
Danh
(Dan Ayido Hwedo) [Snake]
Deng [Sky]
Deohako [Beans+]
Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods]
Dongo [Outer Space]
Dugbo [Earth]
Dxui [Creator]
Emeli-hi [Supreme]
Eranoranhan [Protector]
Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster]
Fa [Destiny]
Famien [Fertility]
Faro [Sky/Water]
Fidi Mukullu [Creator]
Garang and Abuk [First Humans]
Gbeni [Chief]
Gei (Gou) [Moon]
Gu [War/Smiths]
Gua [Sky]
Gulu [Supreme]
Gunab [Evil]
Guruhi [Evil]
Gurzil [Bull]
Gwalu [Rain]
Hammon [Setting Sun]
Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits]
Heitsi-Eibib [Sorcerer]
Hevioss [Thunder]
Huntin [Tree]
Huvean [Creator]
Ifa [Oracul]
Ikenga [Supreme]
Imana [Creator]
Iruwa [Sun]
Juok [Creator]
Kalumba [Creator]
Kalunga Supreme]
Katavi [Demonic]
Ka Tyeleo [Supreme]
Khebieso [Lightening]
Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon]
Kholomodumo [Monster]
Khuzwane [Creator]
Kibuka [War]
Kokola [Guardian]
Kwammang-a [Supreme]
Kwoth [Spirit]
Kyala [Creator]
Legba [Trickster]
Leza [Chief]
Libanza [Supreme]
Lisa [Chameleon]
Lyangombe[Chief]
Macardit [Demon]
Mantis [Creator]
Massim-Biambe [Creator]
Mawu [Sky]
Mawu-Lisa [Supreme Couple]
Mbotumbo [Supreme]
Medr [Earth]
Moomb [Creator]
Mon [?]
Mugasa
Mugu [Sky]
Mujaji [Rain]
Mukasa [Supreme]
Mula Djadi [Creator]
Muluku [Supreme]
Mulungu
Mungu [Creator]
Mungo (Mungu) [?]
Musa (Teaching]
Musisi [Supreme]
Mwari [Supreme]
Nampa [Personal]
Nana-Bouclou [First Gods]
Nana Buluk [Creator]
Ndjambi [Sky]
Ndriananahary [Supreme]
Nduru [Jungle]
Nenaunir [Storm]
Nesshoue [River]
Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator]
Ngewo-wa [Creator]
Ngworekara [Demon]
Niamye [Supreme]
Nkosi Yama'kosi [Supreme]
Nommo [Elemental]
Nommo [Spirit]
Nyama [Animal]
Nyambe [Supreme]
Nyambi (Nyambe) [Supreme]
Nyame
Nyami-Nyami [Guardian]
Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [Supreme]
Nyamia Ama [Supreme]
Nyasaye [Supeme]
Nzambi (Nzambi)
Mpunguo) [Supreme]
Nzame [Supreme]
Obassi Osaw [Supreme]
Obatala [Sky]
Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth]
Ogun (Ogoun) War]
Olokula [Sea]
Olorun [Supreme]
Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life]
Orahan [Supreme]
Orisa Nla [Creator]
Orishako [Agriculture]
Orunjan [Midday Sun]
Orunmila [Compassion]
Oshalla [?]
Osun [Beauty and Love]
Oya [Passion and Power]
Pemba (Bemba) Mother]
Qandisa [Demon]
Qamata[Quamta] Supreme]
Rock-Sene [Supreme]
Ruwa [Supreme]
Sagbata [Smallpox]
Sakarabru [Medicine]
Sakpata [Smallpox]
Sango [Thunder]
Shango [Thunder]
So [Lightening]
Tano [River]
Tore [Forest]
Trowu[Spirits]
Tsui'goab [Rain]
Twe [Lake]
Umvelinqangi [Creator]
Unkulunkulu [Supreme]
Unumbotte [Creator]
Waka [Rain]
Wele [Supreme]
Wulbari [Supreme]
Wuni [Supreme]
Xewioso [Thunder]
Yemaja [Creation]
Yo [Impersonal]
Zin [Water]
Table of Asian Gods:
BUDDHIST
Abhijnaraja [Physician]
Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis]
Acala [?]
Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis]
Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis]
Adibuddha [First]
Adidharma [Primeval]
Aizen Myo-o [Protective]
Ajaya [?]
Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai
Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature]
Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani]
Amida [Savior]
Amitabha [A Dhyani]
Amitayus [Longevity]
Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara]
Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani]
Anantamukhi [Literature]
Arapacana [Book and Sword]
Arcismati [Bhumis]
Arhat [A Saint]
Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis]
Arya-Tara [Sakti]
Asokakanta [avatar Marici]
Asokottamasri [Physician]
Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla]
Asura [Group of Demons]
Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age]
Ayurvasita[One vasitas]
Balaparamita [Philosophy]
Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician]
Bhima[Attendant]
Bhrkuti[Female]
Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother]
Bhumi [Spiritual Spheres]
Bhutadarma [Demon Controller]
Bi-har [Protector]
Bodhidharma [Monk]
Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [Born to be Englightened]
Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas]
Buddhalocana [Female Buddha]
Budha [Mercury]
Butcho [?]
Chandarosana [Mahayana]
Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana]
Chakravartin [World Ruler]
Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa]
Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings]
Chittavista [Vashitas]
Citipati [Graveyard Demons]
Cunda [Literature]
Da-shi-zhi [Bodhisattva]
Dadimunda [Temples]
Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom]
Dakini [Demons]
Dala Kadavara [Demon]
Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank]
Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi]
Dharani [Mystical Texts]
Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma]
Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician]
Dharmamegha [Bhumis]
Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties]
Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis]
Dharmavasita [Vasitas]
Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians]
Dhupa [Mother]
Dhupatara [Mahayana]
Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya]
Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy]
Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas]
Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators]
Di-zang [Bodhisattvas of Hell]
Dvarapala [?]
Ekajata [Terrible]
Emma-o [Judges the Dead]
Fudo [WIsdom]
Guan Yin [bodhisattva]
Hariti [Ate Children]
Hayagriva [Protection]
Heruka [Protection]
Hevajra [Protection]
Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries]
Jambhala [avatar Vausravana]
Janguli [Snakebite cure]
Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence]
Jizo [Compassion]
Juichimen [Mercy]
Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo]
Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva]
Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [Indian bodhisattva]
Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o]
Krodhadevatas [Inspire Terror]
Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva]
Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy]
Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric]
Kurukulla [?]
Locana [?]
Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva]
Maitreya [Future]
Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva]
Manjusri [bodhisattva]
Mara [Evil]
Marici [Sun]
Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva
Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva
Mo-Li [Protects Temples]
Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara]
Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses]
Pandara [?]
Paramasva [?]
Parnasavari [?]
Prajna [Femaleness]
Prajnaparamita [Buddhist Text]
Ran-deng [Beggar and Future Buddha]
Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha]
Remanta [King of the Horse gods]
Sakyamuni [Japanese]
Samantabhadra [Bodhisattvas]
Saptaksara [avatar Heruka]
Shakra [King of the Gods]
Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven]
Sumbharaja [Buddhist Krodhadevata]
Tennin (Tennyo) [angels]
Usnisavijaya [?]
Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas]
Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World]
Vajrabhairava [?]
Vajrapani [Bodhisattvas]
Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha]
Vajravarahi [?]
Vajrayogini [Initiation]
Vajrayogini [Riches]
Vidyadharas [?]
Vidyujjvalakarali [?]
Vighnantaka [?]
Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World]
Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven]
Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
We-to [Divine General]
Yakushi Nyorai [Healing]
Yama [?]
Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas]
Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods]
CHINESE GODS
Ao [Sea]
Awun [Destruction]
Ba [Drought]
Ba Gua [Basis of Divination]
Bo Hsian [Taoist]
Cai-Shen [Riches]
Can Cong [Silkworms]
Cao Guo-jiu [Actors]
Chang Fei [War]
Chang Hs'ien [Children]
Chang Kuo-lao [?]
Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon]
Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife]
Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians]
Chen Jen [Spiritual Beings]
Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen]
Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Buskers]
Chih Nu [Weavers]
Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain]
Chih-Yu [Inventor]
Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian]
Chou Wang [Sodomy]
Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties]
Chu Jung [Fire]
Chu Lung [Day/Night]
Chung K'uei [Afterlife]
Chung-li Ch'uan [Immortal]
Confucius [Philosopher]
Di Zhang Xia [?]
Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God]
Erh-Lang [Guardian]
Fan-K'uei [Butchers]
Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind]
Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings]
Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind]
Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind]
Fo [Buddha]
Fu His [Taught Humanity]
Fu Hsing [Happiness]
Fu Shen [Happiness]
Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods]
Fu-xi [Hero]
Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement]
Gong Gong [Common Workers]
Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers]
Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling]
Gui Xian [Demon]
Han Hsiang [Immortal]
Han Xiang-zi [Immortal]
He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers]
Heng E (Change-e) [Moon]
He Xian-gu [Immortal]
Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples]
Heng-o [Moon]
Ho Hsien-ku [Immortal]
Ho Po [River]
Hou Chi [Harvest]
Hou I [Archer]
Hou T'u [Earth]
Hsien [Taoists]
Hsi Ho [Sun's Creator]
Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian]
Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven]
Hua Hsien [Flower]
Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero]
Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain]
Hu-Shen [Hail]
I [Bowmen]
Infoniwoo [Generation]
I-Ti [Wine]
K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil]
Kuan Yu [War]
K'uei Hsing [Examinations]
Lan Cai-he [Immortal]
Lao T'ien Yeh [Supreme]
Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher]
Lei Kung [Storm]
Lei-zi [Thunder]
Li [Fire]
Li Tie-guai [Immortal]
Liu [Crops]
Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [Immortal]
Lu-Hsing [Salaries/Employees]
Lung Wang [Dragon King]
Lupan [Carpenters]
Ma-Mien [Bureaucrat]
Meng (Meng P'o) [Underworld]
Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush]
Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng]
Mu Gong [Immortals]
Niu-Y'oun [Police]
Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage]
O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha]
Pa [Drought]
Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts]
Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals]
P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues]
'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos]
Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth]
Puhsien [Sun]
Ran-deng [Future Buddha]
San Ch'inga [Three Taos]
Shang Di (Shang Ti) [Supreme]
She Chi (Thu) [Earth]
Shen [Spirit]
Sheng Jen [Holy]
Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero]
Shen-T'u [Guardian]
Shen Yi [Sun]
Shiang Ku [Magician]
Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten]
Shou-Hsing [Longevity]
Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life]
Shou-Ts'ang [Servant]
Shui-Fu [Water]
Shui-Kuan [Defender]
Ssu Ming [Life and Death]
Sung-Chiang [Theives]
Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey]
Sun Hou-zi [Apes]
Sun-Pin [Cobblers]
T'ai I [High]
Tai-sui-xing [Time]
Tai-yi [Sky]
T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak]
Thu [Earth]
Tian [Sky]
Tian-zhu [Catholic]
Tien (T'ien) [Sky]
Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven]
T'ien-Kuan [Happiness]
T'ien Lung [Dragon]
Tien Mu [Lightening]
Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings]
Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness]
Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth]
Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy]
Ti Yu [Afterlife]
Tou Nu [North Star]
Ts'ai-Lun [Stationers]
Ts'ai Shen [Wealth]
Tsan [Demons]
Ts'ang Chien [Hearth]
Tsao Shen [?]
Tsao-Wang [Hearth]
Tu [Earth]
Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals]
T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality]
Wang [Palace Door]
Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian]
Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature]
Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri]
Wen Pu [Epidemics]
Wu Ti [Myth]
Xian [Spirits]
Xi-Wang-mu [Immortality]
Yama [Seventh hell]
Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [Underworld Prince]
Yao [Wind Conqueror]
Yao-shi-fo [Physician]
Yao Wang [Medicine]
Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death]
Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [Underworld Judge]
Yin and Yang [Male and Female]
Yo Fei [War]
Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds]
Yu-di (Yu Huang) [Supreme]
Yueh Fei [War]
Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High]
Yun T'ung [Clouds]
Yu-qiang [Sea]
Yu Shih [Rain]
Yu-tzu [Rain]
Zao Jun [Kitchen]
Zhang Guo-lao [Immortal]
Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations]
Zhong-li Quan [Immortal]
[Sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology]
Finnish Gods:
Ahto [Water]
Akka [Harvest]
Egres [Vegetation/Fertility]
Hiisi [Forest/Evil]
Ilma [Air]
Ilmarinen [Sky]
Inmar [Sky]
Juma [Sky]
Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+]
Kalevanpojat [Demons]
Kalma [Death]
Kekri [Fertility Feast]
Kipu-Tytto [Illness]
Kondos [Sowing Crops]
Kuu [Moon]
Lemminkainen [Hero]
Louhi [Sorcery/Evil]
Loviatar [Disease]
Luonnotar [Creator]
Madderakka [Dwarves]
Maahiset [Dwarves]
Naaki [Water]
Nyrckes [?]
Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties]
Pajainen [?]
Pajonn [Thunder]
Para [Goblin Like]
Pellonpekko [Barley]
Raudna [?]
Rutu [Devil]
Sampsa [Vegetation]
Seides [Stones]
Rauni [?]
Tapio [Forest]
Tiermes [Thunder]
Tuoni [Underworld
Tursas [Monster]
Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder]
Vainamoinen [Hero]
Veralden-radien [World Pillars]
Waralden Olmai [World]
JAPANESE GODS
Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder]
Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star]
Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal]
Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility]
Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods]
Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil]
Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared]
Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth]
Bimbo-Gami [Poverty]
Bishamon [War]
Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea]
Daikoku [Wealth]
Ebisu [Labor]
Fuchi [Fire]
Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom]
Futsunushi [Lightening]
Gozu-Tenno [Plague]
Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind]
Hikohohodemi [Hero]
Hinokagutsuchi [Fire]
Hiruko [Morning Sun]
Hoderi [?]
Hisa-Me [Devils]
Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire]
Hosuseri [?]
Hotei [Laughter]
Inari [Prosperity]
Izanagi [Creator]
Izanami [Mother]
Jikoku [Guardians]
Jimmu Tenno [Founder]
Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity]
Kagu-tsuchi [Fire]
Kamado-gami [Hearth]
Kami [Divinities]
Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?]
Kami-Nari [Thunder]
Kamui [Sky]
Kappa [Water]
Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers]
Kishijoten [Luck]
Kishimojin [Demon]
Komoku [South]
Kompira [Wealth]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First]
Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth]
Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow]
Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes]
Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes]
Ningyo [Mermaid]
Ninigi [Ruler Earth]
O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery]
Onamuji [Earth]
Omiwa [Protective]
Oni [Demons]
O-Wata-Tsumi [Sea]
O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain]
Raiden [Thunder]
Ryo-Wo [Sea]
Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain]
Sae-No-Kami [Roads]
Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain]
Sennin [Immortals]
Shichi-Fukujin [Luck]
Shiko-Me [Devils]
Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind]
Shitatera-Hime [?]
Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians]
Shojo [Satyrs]
Soko-No-Kuni [Underworld]
Suitengu [Sea]
Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs]
Shoki [Enemy of Devils]
Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [Storms]
Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family]
Takemikadzuchi [Thunder]
Take-Mi-Musubi [Sun]
Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain]
Tatsuta-hime [Autumn]
Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest]
Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy]
Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon]
Uji-gami [Ancestors]
Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and Food]
Uzume [Mirth]
Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\
Wata-tsu-mi [Sea]
Yabune [House]
Zocho [South]
Shinto Amaterasu [Sun]
Ama-Tsu-Mara [Smiths]
Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral]
Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water]
Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [Supreme]
Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers]
Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental]
Ame-no-uzume [Dancers]
Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+]
Fujin [Wind]
Hachiman [War]
Ho-musubi [Fire]
Kami [Idols]
SOUTH ASIAN GODS
Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [Supreme]
Debata [?]
Empung Luminuut [?]
Hainuwele [?]
Hananim [Sky]
Hmin [Ague]
Karei [Supreme]
Kinharingan [Creator]
Kud [Evil]
Laseo [Sun]
Lature Dano [Supreme]
Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above]
Mahatala (Mahataral) [Supreme?]
Ma-zu [?]
Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval]
Narbrooi [Woodlands]
Nemu [Primodial]
Palk [Sun]
Puang Matowa [Sky]
Pulug [Thunder]
Reahu [Dark Demon]
Rigenmucha [Supreme]
Silewe Nazarata [?]
Sirao [First]
Ta Pedn [?]
Tnong [Sun]
Tumbrenjak [Original Man]
Upulevo [Sun]
Wunekau [Sun]
CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS
Abyrga [Snake]
Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms]
Aitvaras [Evil]
Alardi [Spirit]
Aralo [Agriculutre]
Armaz [Supreme]
Auseklis (Ausrine) [Stellar]
Baba [Spirit]
Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress]
Bagvarti [?]
Bangputys [Sea]
Bannik [Baths]
Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity]
Barastir (Barastaer) [Underworld]
Bardha [Elves]
Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War]
Beng [Satan]
Biegg-Olmai [Wind]
Bogatyri [Heroes]
Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children]
Bolla (Bullar) [Demon]
Buga [Supreme]
Bukura e dheut
[Good Spirit]
Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah]
Byelobog (Bielbog) [?]
Byelun [?]
Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?]
Chors [Sun]
Dabog [Sun]
Deive [Stone Spirits]
Dieva deli [?]
Dievini [Less Known Gods]
Dievs [Sky]
Djall [Devil]
Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household]
Donbittir [Water/Fish]
Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods]
Dud [Heavenly Spirit]
Dvorovoi [Courtyard]
Dyavo [Demons]
En [?]
Erlik [King of the Dead]
Es [Sky]
Fatit [Destiny]
Fene [Demon]
Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire]
Gabjauja [Corn]
Giltine [Death]
Guta [Demon]
Hadur [War]
Himavat [Himalayas]
Horagalles [War]
Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate]
Isten [Supreme]
Jagaubis [Fire]
Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War]
Jessis [avatar Jupiter]
Jumis [Fertility]
Juras Mate [Water]
Kaka-Guia [Funerary]
Kalvis [Smith]
Karta [Fate]
Kaukas [?]
Khors [Health/Hunting]
Khyung-gai mGo-can [?]
Kikimora [Household]
K'op'ala [Protective]
Kukuth (Kukudhi) [Sickness]
Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon]
Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon]
Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs]
Kurdalaegon [Blacksmiths]
Laima [Fate]
Lamaria [Hearth]
Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest]
Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility]
Laume [Fairy]
Leshy [Forest]
Lha [Bon Gods]
Lhamo [?]
Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs]
Ljubi [Demon]
Manzasiri [Primeval]
Mate [Mother]
Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth]
Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods]
Meness [Moon]
Menulis [Moon]
Meza Mate [Nature]
Mirsa [Light]
Mokos [Fertility]
Mu (rMu) [Heavenly]
Muma Padura [Wood]
Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon]
Nang Lha [Household]
Nari [Demon]
Nari [Sky]
Num [Sky]
Odqan [Fire]
Ora [Protective]
Ordog [Dark]
Pekar (Pehar) [Demon]
Peko [Barley]
Perendi [Jehovah]
Perit [Mountain Spirits]
Perkons [Thunder]
Perkunas [Thunder]
Perun (Peroun) [Thunder]
Polevik [Field]
Poludnitsa [Field]
Pon [Sky]
Porenutius (Porevit) [?]
Preas Eyn [?]
Preas Eyssaur [Destructive]
Preas Prohm [Primeval]
Prende (Prenne) [Love]
Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday]
Pugu [Sun]
Qormusta (Chormusta) [High]
Rugievit [War]
Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands]
Safa [Weapens]
Sanda [?]
Sarkany [Weather]
Saule [Sun]
Saules meitas [?]
Selardi [Moon]
Shen-Lha-od-dkar [Bon]
Shen-rab [Founder Bon]
Sipe Gyalmo [Bon]
Shiwini [Sun]
Shosshu [Smiths]
Siwini [Sun]
Srat [Demon]
Sri [Demon]
Sridevi [?]
Stribog [Winds]
Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture]
Svarog [Sky]
Syen [Guardian]
Stihi [Demon]
Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith]
Telyaveli [Smiths]
Tengri [Heavenly Beings]
Tesheba [Weather]
Thab-lha [Hearth]
Triglav (Trigelawus) [War]
Uacilla [Thunder/Rain]
Ulgen [Creator]
Urme [Fate]
Usins [?]
Vadatajs [Evil]
Vampire [Soul of Dead]
Veela [Kindess]
Veja mate [Winds]
Veles (Volos) [Underworld]
Velnias [Devil]
Velu mate [Dead]
Verbti [Fire/North Wind]
Vila [Water]
Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf]
Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf]
Vodnik [Demon]
Vodyanoi [Water]
Volos (Volusu) [Cattle]
We [Supreme]
Xhindi [Spirits]
Yarilo [Love]
Zaltys [Grass Snake]
Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [Supreme]
Zemes mate [Mother]
Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth]
Zorya [Guardian]
Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star]
SIBERIAN GODS
Ai Tojon [Light]
Ajysyt [Mother]
Anky-Kele [Sea]
Ayi [Creator]
Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters]
Hinkon [Death Demon]
K'daai [Fire Demon]
Kaltes [The Goddess]
Ke'lets [Death Demon]
Kurkil [Creator]
Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit]
Mayin [Supreme]
Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals]
Shurdi [Thunderstorms]
Tomam [Bird]
Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator]
Xucau [Supreme]
Ye'loje (Pugu) [Sun]
.


User: "bob young"

Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 10 Nov 2006 04:47:01 AM
James wrote:

"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com>
Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists


I have a number of questions for those of you out there who believe the
Bible to be the literal truth, but I respectfully request that any
answers forthcoming be free of abuse and as rational as possible.

1. How did Adam know about fathers, mothers and wives, as he was the
first human being? (Gen 1:24)


Hello,

I assume you meant Ge 2:24. Since God instituted the marriage
arrangement,

Bloody fool. It was instituted by a primitive who used a god to supply the
human power.
You havn't grasped onto this yet ?!

then He likely told Adam some details about it. Genesis
does not record every conversation between God and Adam, or between
Adam and Eve etc.

It does not record ANY conversation as it was written at least 1.4
generations later
and they had no tape recorders back then
only frightened primitive scripture writers




2. How come the serpent in the Garden of Eden was able to talk? (Gen
3:1)


Because a powerful rebel angel, Satan, was using it as a tool to fool
Eve into disobeying God.

OooooooOOOOH so you bveleive in a Satan too, seen him have you?
Long pointed ears and a pointed tail had he?

That is why Revelation refers to Satan as the
"ancient serpent". (Re 12:9)


3. Why didn't Adam and Eve die when they ate the fruit of the tree of
knowledge of good and evil? (Gen 3:6)


They did. Both of them died just as God said.

Moron, a man said what a god said so you say what god said,
hey wait a minute I guess that figures !
G R O A N

Also keep in mind that a
"day" to God is 1000 years. (2 Pe 3:8) Thus they both died before
God's "day" was completed.


4. How did Adam and Eve know how to weave leaves together to make
aprons? (Gen 3:7)


Obviously that knowledge was given them, just like God gave craft
skills to the Israelites to make much of their infrastructure.


5. Why was Abel's offering of burnt flesh acceptable to God at a time
when mankind was still supposed to be plant-eaters? (Gen 4:4-5)


There are several reasons why God accepted Abel's sacrifice over
Cain's. But to stick with your inquiry of an animal sacrifice at a
time that humans were supposed to be vegetarians by divine mandate,
nothing in those verses said that Abel was eating those animals.
Rather he would have been raising them for other reasons, such as
their wool etc.

Also, something with blood in it was more valuable than something
bloodless. This was also later revealed to Noah (Ge 9:4), and then
even more details given to the ancient Israelites. (De 12:23) But that
wouldn't have been the main reason why God accepted Abel's sacrifice.
(more on this if you wish)


6. How come Shem the son of Noah and most of his descendants live to be
so old when God had already ordained that man would live no more than
120 years? (Gen 6:3)


This translation makes it more clear. Ge 6:3 reads:

"Then Jehovah said, 'My Spirit must not forever be disgraced in man,
wholly evil as he is. I will give him 120 years to mend his ways.'''
(Living Bible)

Thus the 120 years was not referring to individual human longevity,
but was a warning giving to the human race that they would be judged
at the end of those days if they didn't turn around from doing bad.
But they never did turn around, so just as God said, right after that
time period expired, the flood came and "swept them all away" (Mt
24:39)


7. How many of each kind went into the ark? Was it two of every sort
(Gen 6:19-20); or was it the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos
(Gen 7:2-3); or was it two and two?


Many times the Bible adds details later on. By combining those verses,
we can get at the actual mandate. Unclean animals were to go in by
two's, clean animals were to go in by sevens.


8. Why did God decide to allow men to eat meat after the flood, when he
had initially created them to be plant-eaters? (Gen 9:3)


The Bible doesn't answer that one. So any answers would be
speculation. At any rate, the prohibition about blood continued in
effect, and still does today. (Ge 9:4; Ac 15:29)

I hope the above Scriptural answers have helped you.

Sincerely, James

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User: "ZenIsWhen"

Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 10 Nov 2006 12:00:32 PM
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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James wrote:

"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com>
Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists


I have a number of questions for those of you out there who believe the
Bible to be the literal truth, but I respectfully request that any
answers forthcoming be free of abuse and as rational as possible.

1. How did Adam know about fathers, mothers and wives, as he was the
first human being? (Gen 1:24)


Hello,

I assume you meant Ge 2:24. Since God instituted the marriage
arrangement,


Bloody fool. It was instituted by a primitive who used a god to supply
the
human power.

You havn't grasped onto this yet ?!

then He likely told Adam some details about it. Genesis
does not record every conversation between God and Adam, or between
Adam and Eve etc.


It does not record ANY conversation as it was written at least 1.4
generations later
and they had no tape recorders back then
only frightened primitive scripture writers




2. How come the serpent in the Garden of Eden was able to talk? (Gen
3:1)


Because a powerful rebel angel, Satan, was using it as a tool to fool
Eve into disobeying God.


OooooooOOOOH so you bveleive in a Satan too, seen him have you?

Long pointed ears and a pointed tail had he?

That is why Revelation refers to Satan as the
"ancient serpent". (Re 12:9)


3. Why didn't Adam and Eve die when they ate the fruit of the tree of
knowledge of good and evil? (Gen 3:6)


They did. Both of them died just as God said.


Moron, a man said what a god said so you say what god said,
hey wait a minute I guess that figures !

G R O A N

Also keep in mind that a
"day" to God is 1000 years. (2 Pe 3:8) Thus they both died before
God's "day" was completed.


4. How did Adam and Eve know how to weave leaves together to make
aprons? (Gen 3:7)


Obviously that knowledge was given them, just like God gave craft
skills to the Israelites to make much of their infrastructure.


5. Why was Abel's offering of burnt flesh acceptable to God at a time
when mankind was still supposed to be plant-eaters? (Gen 4:4-5)


There are several reasons why God accepted Abel's sacrifice over
Cain's. But to stick with your inquiry of an animal sacrifice at a
time that humans were supposed to be vegetarians by divine mandate,
nothing in those verses said that Abel was eating those animals.
Rather he would have been raising them for other reasons, such as
their wool etc.

Also, something with blood in it was more valuable than something
bloodless. This was also later revealed to Noah (Ge 9:4), and then
even more details given to the ancient Israelites. (De 12:23) But that
wouldn't have been the main reason why God accepted Abel's sacrifice.
(more on this if you wish)


6. How come Shem the son of Noah and most of his descendants live to be
so old when God had already ordained that man would live no more than
120 years? (Gen 6:3)


This translation makes it more clear. Ge 6:3 reads:

"Then Jehovah said, 'My Spirit must not forever be disgraced in man,
wholly evil as he is. I will give him 120 years to mend his ways.'''
(Living Bible)

Thus the 120 years was not referring to individual human longevity,
but was a warning giving to the human race that they would be judged
at the end of those days if they didn't turn around from doing bad.
But they never did turn around, so just as God said, right after that
time period expired, the flood came and "swept them all away" (Mt
24:39)


7. How many of each kind went into the ark? Was it two of every sort
(Gen 6:19-20); or was it the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos
(Gen 7:2-3); or was it two and two?


Many times the Bible adds details later on. By combining those verses,
we can get at the actual mandate. Unclean animals were to go in by
two's, clean animals were to go in by sevens.


8. Why did God decide to allow men to eat meat after the flood, when he
had initially created them to be plant-eaters? (Gen 9:3)


The Bible doesn't answer that one. So any answers would be
speculation. At any rate, the prohibition about blood continued in
effect, and still does today. (Ge 9:4; Ac 15:29)

I hope the above Scriptural answers have helped you.

Sincerely, James

***********************************
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Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
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***********************************

That's one of the fun parts about being a mentally corrupt, literalist,
fundy .............you can "claim" the bible is absolute . and then STILL
warp what was done, what was said, and what was meant - to fit your current
fantasies.
"I hope the above Scriptural answers have helped you."
???????????
What "scriptural answers"?
All I saw was a bunch of spin - invented BY YOU - to explain why such an
outrageous fairy tale should be considered truth.
.



User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 14 Oct 2006 09:44:39 PM
Before you get too deeply into this subject, PLEASE
try to differentiate between
1. taking what is written for what it says, as it is written,
without interpreting or metaphorizing it;
versus
2. taking what is written to be litarally TRUE.
Position #1 above is the only honest position to take, while
position #2 results in absurdities and pure nonsense. -- L.
SJAB1958 wrote:

I have a number of questions for those of you out there who believe the
Bible to be the literal truth, but I respectfully request that any
answers forthcoming be free of abuse and as rational as possible.

1. How did Adam know about fathers, mothers and wives, as he was the
first human being? (Gen 1:24)

===>Don't confuse fiction with reality.
The stories in Genesis are just stories.
Obviously the author did not think such questions necesary to answer.

2. How come the serpent in the Garden of Eden was able to talk? (Gen
3:1)

===>Again, it is a STORY. A FABLE!
Anyone who has not read or heard stories about talking animals missed
his proper childhood upbringing.

3. Why didn't Adam and Eve die when they ate the fruit of the tree of
knowledge of good and evil? (Gen 3:6)

===>Because it was just an empty threat so they would not get a chance
to become like the aliens ("Elohim") in that quality. However, when they
did eat, the chief of the aliens, YHWH, declares just that: that they
had become "like one of us", just as Talking Snake had promised.

4. How did Adam and Eve know how to weave leaves together to make
aprons? (Gen 3:7)

===>They knew because they ate that fruit, so they gained knowledge
of good and bad things. E.g. they also knew that running around in the
nude was "bad". According to the author's culture, that is.

5. Why was Abel's offering of burnt flesh acceptable to God at a time
when mankind was still supposed to be plant-eaters? (Gen 4:4-5)

===>That story relates to the conflict between the pastoral Jews
and their agricultural neighbors. YHWH, the god of the Jews, is depicted
as preferring bloody sacrifices.

6. How come Shem the son of Noah and most of his descendants live to be
so old when God had already ordained that man would live no more than
120 years? (Gen 6:3)

===>The Flood story is show to have been originally two different
stories. Such conflicting details are found throughut the composit
story in Genesis.

7. How many of each kind went into the ark? Was it two of every sort
(Gen 6:19-20); or was it the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos
(Gen 7:2-3); or was it two and two?

===>See the above comment.
SOPme modern translations of the Bible dare to explain what I wrote.
E.g. The New American Bible.

8. Why did God decide to allow men to eat meat after the flood, when he
had initially created them to be plant-eaters? (Gen 9:3)

===It was an explanation of meat eating, incorporated into the story.
THINK AND YOU WILL LEARN. -- L.


.

User: "joe"

Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 12 Oct 2006 04:15:09 PM
On 12 Oct 2006 04:36:42 -0700, "SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote:

I have a number of questions for those of you out there who believe the
Bible to be the literal truth, but I respectfully request that any
answers forthcoming be free of abuse and as rational as possible.

1. How did Adam know about fathers, mothers and wives, as he was the
first human being? (Gen 1:24)

Gen. 1:24 does not refer to Adam.

2. How come the serpent in the Garden of Eden was able to talk? (Gen
3:1)

the serpent ( by translation ' shinning one ' ) is Satan. Ez.
28:11-19


3. Why didn't Adam and Eve die when they ate the fruit of the tree of
knowledge of good and evil? (Gen 3:6)

the death in view was spiritual death... separation from God... they
did die physically as well but after many years.


4. How did Adam and Eve know how to weave leaves together to make
aprons? (Gen 3:7)

obviously, Adam and Eve did not come into this world devoid of
knowledge... Adam knew how to name all the animals... he knew he was
lonesome not having a woman... Eve spoke intelligently with God ,
Adam, and the devil as did Adam. they were obviously taught how to
communicate with each other... how to sustain themselves; such as
keeping clean; avoiding accidental death from a fall, etc.

5. Why was Abel's offering of burnt flesh acceptable to God at a time
when mankind was still supposed to be plant-eaters? (Gen 4:4-5)

Abel's offering was acceptable to God because God must have taught
Adam and Eve what is acceptable to God by reason of providing animal
skins in place of their choice of fig leaves as a covering for sin.
Gen. 3:21 burnt offerings as a sacrifice before God foreshadows the
sacrifice of Christ as the covering for sin.


6. How come Shem the son of Noah and most of his descendants live to be
so old when God had already ordained that man would live no more than
120 years? (Gen 6:3)

you are assuming and impressing on the Scriptures your own private
interpretation... the verse doesn't say the limit of mans life of 120
years is applied to all people the instant God said it.

7. How many of each kind went into the ark? Was it two of every sort
(Gen 6:19-20); or was it the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos
(Gen 7:2-3); or was it two and two?

Gen 6:19, 20 records God brought 2 of every kind.
Gen. 7:2,3 records God provided 7 pairs of all the clean animals...
and one pair of all the unclean animals in total.
clean and unclean animals foreshadowed the Levitical code of the Law
as in Deut. 14 which ultimately foreshadowed Christ

8. Why did God decide to allow men to eat meat after the flood, when he
had initially created them to be plant-eaters? (Gen 9:3)

food was not plentiful after the flood as far as plant life goes. God
provided meat to man for nurishment. God has not rescinded that
providence.
it is our own shortcomings which limits our ability to understand all
that the Bible holds. 1 Cor. 13:12 Ps. 139:6 Isa. 55:8,9
when you say in the subject of your post... ' Bible Literalists ' a
few things about such a title is worthy to comment about...
no one can figure out Revelations, or Daniel, or what the meaning of
all the numbers in the Bible mean... such things are hidden from us...
for now. these things are not given to us in a literal context but
yet they are not put in the Bible by God accidently.
otherwise, there are plenty of people who distort the Word of God on
purpose... while others have devoted their lives to honestly studying
Gods Word and teaching others great truth from it.
but if you mean by ' Literalist ' one who believes the Word of God
when He says He created the whole universe in 6 literal days...
" there was evening and morning; the first day " not to believe it is
to call God a liar. and that is a serious matter... those who are
saved are those who believe the Word of God.
continue with your honest questions.
.
User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."

Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 13 Oct 2006 12:44:57 AM
"joe" <not@home.com> wrote in message
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On 12 Oct 2006 04:36:42 -0700, "SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

6. How come Shem the son of Noah and most of his descendants live to be
so old when God had already ordained that man would live no more than
120 years? (Gen 6:3)

you are assuming and impressing on the Scriptures your own private
interpretation... the verse doesn't say the limit of mans life of 120
years is applied to all people the instant God said it.

You are assuming and impressing your own private interpretations on the
scriptures, too.
Ge 6:1-3
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the
earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the
daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which
they chose.
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that
he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
1) There are two parties in this story: The sons of God (i.e. the progeny of
Adam and Eve) and the "men" from whom the daughters came, i.e. the Gentiles.
2) The condemnation was against "man," i.e. the Gentiles, as God says "he
ALSO is flesh."
3) By dilution, the ages of the "sons of God" slowly diminished until they
matched the ages of the "sons of men."

7. How many of each kind went into the ark? Was it two of every sort
(Gen 6:19-20); or was it the clean by sevens and the unclean by twos
(Gen 7:2-3); or was it two and two?

Gen 6:19, 20 records God brought 2 of every kind.

Gen. 7:2,3 records God provided 7 pairs of all the clean animals...
and one pair of all the unclean animals in total.

Not "seven pairs."
"Seven sevens" or forty-nine plus one to make 50 (as one is always added to
make a "year" or "jubilee," etc.
Otherwise, you can't have "pairs" as stated immediately after: "And thou
shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and the female..."
(This solves the problem of Noah making sacrifices as soon as he got off the
boat--it there were only two of each kind, and he sacrifices one, that's all
she wrote.)
[snip]

food was not plentiful after the flood as far as plant life goes. God
provided meat to man for nurishment. God has not rescinded that
providence.

Not quite: The original food law was given before the fall. After the fall,
Adam and Eve were of the beasts just like everyone else. Thus begins the
shedding of "blood" for food, clothings, tools, etc., etc. as God killed and
made skins for Adam, designating their bestiality.
Latter, in the written law, we have a sign of God's grace as He creates an
adaptive law that one could live with, for if God enforced the perfect law
(as stated in the first Genesis account), He would have to destroy everyone.

it is our own shortcomings which limits our ability to understand all
that the Bible holds. 1 Cor. 13:12 Ps. 139:6 Isa. 55:8,9

If you mean a failure to pay attention to details, you've got that right.
[snip]

no one can figure out Revelations, or Daniel, or what the meaning of
all the numbers in the Bible mean...

Guess again.

such things are hidden from us...

Lame excuse for not studying.

for now.

"Now" is becoming "coming."

these things are not given to us in a literal context but
yet they are not put in the Bible by God accidently.

I have no idea what that was supposed to mean, but God communicates
information three-dimensionally along one or more of three axes--the
past/present/future axis, the literal/symbolic/spiritual axis, and/or the
thetic/general/antithetic axis.

otherwise, there are plenty of people who distort the Word of God on
purpose... while others have devoted their lives to honestly studying
Gods Word and teaching others great truth from it.

This is for sure the truth.

but if you mean by ' Literalist ' one who believes the Word of God
when He says He created the whole universe in 6 literal days...
" there was evening and morning; the first day " not to believe it is
to call God a liar. and that is a serious matter... those who are
saved are those who believe the Word of God.

Nonsense.
Prophecy specially occurs and reoccurs in different permutations of time, as
indicated in Leviticus 25 et al, and the accounts of Genesis are prophecies.
In fact, conventional "days" aren't even established until the 4th prophetic
"day" of the prophecy.
But there are those who still bring discredit to the Bible, hanging on to
long-dead erroneous interpretations of the Bible.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
.

User: "Bill M"

Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 13 Oct 2006 07:04:03 PM
"joe" <not@home.com> wrote in message
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On 12 Oct 2006 04:36:42 -0700, "SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote:
when you say in the subject of your post... ' Bible Literalists ' a
few things about such a title is worthy to comment about...

no one can figure out Revelations, or Daniel, or what the meaning of
all the numbers in the Bible mean... such things are hidden from us...
for now. these things are not given to us in a literal context but
yet they are not put in the Bible by God accidently.

otherwise, there are plenty of people who distort the Word of God on
purpose... while others have devoted their lives to honestly studying
Gods Word and teaching others great truth from it.

but if you mean by ' Literalist ' one who believes the Word of God
when He says He created the whole universe in 6 literal days...
" there was evening and morning; the first day " not to believe it is
to call God a liar. and that is a serious matter... those who are
saved are those who believe the Word of God.

continue with your honest questions.

The foundation of all Christian religions are the Bibles. The Bibles are the
literature of pure 'faith', not of scientific observation, evidence or
historical fact or demonstration.
The Bibles are a foundation of quicksand. There are NO ORIGINALS in
existence. Why would not any 'real' God protect the originals??? What are
available are altered copies of copies by unknown men of questionable
veracity. The books of the Bibles were written more than 1,000 years before
the invention of the printing press. Even the so called originals were
supposedly written by 66 or more different authors of unknown veracity. They
are biased by, and dependent on the writings and opinions of the clergy. And
the status and survival of the clergy is totally dependent on their
followers belief in their Bible stories.
There is NO - NADA _evidence the Bibles are the word of any Gods. They are
no more than the words of hundreds of errant religious leaders motivated to
impress and control their flock.
It is believed that the foundation of the Christian religion, civilization
and morality is the Good Book. This is patently ridiculous because the
Bibles are nothing more than books of myths, fables, contradictions, human
and animal sacrifices, genocide, slaveholding, misogyny, destruction,
barbarisms, and impossible tales. They are not accurate history and
certainly are not the words of any god unless he is an insane and totally
untrustworthy monster. They are not even good fiction.
The Bibles quite obviously contain mostly myths, fables, legends.
contradictions and totally impossible tales. NONE of the Bibles were written
during Jesus' 'CLAIMED LIFE TIME'. Time and distance was required to allow
the creation of fictional stories and the embellishment of history.
There is also the matter of the Biblical canon itself. After all, ancient
Israel and the early church knew of many more religious books than the ones
that now constitute the Bible. For example, there were over 50 gospels in
circulation at the time the New Testaments were chosen by church leaders,
yet only four made it into the New Testament. Who decided which of the books
would become part of the Christian scriptures, and again, "Why?" Who
decided, "This book belongs... this book doesn't..."? What were their
reasons? What were their motives? How do we know if ANY of them were
authentic? In addition there is evidence that the Bibles were altered by
church leaders to support their personal motives and ambitions.
The fact is, there are no clear records available which document the
church's process of determining which books were acceptable and which books
were unacceptable and why. The general consensus of opinion among scholars
is that the decision was based on whether or not the book agreed with the
prevailing theological thought and motives at the time. In other words, the
only books accepted were the ones that agreed with the opinions, desires and
motives of the church leadership at the time
It is interesting to note that NONE of the Bibles were written during Jesus'
claimed life time. It seems time needed to pass to permit the creation of
tales and the embellishment of history.
According to Bart Ehrman, professor and Chair of the Dept. of Religious
Studies at the University of North Carolina, The Bible is not the error-free
word of any god. There are some 5,700 ancient Greek manuscripts that are the
basis of the modern versions of the New Testament, and scholars have
uncovered more thousands of differences in those texts.
The last 12 verses of the Gospel of Mark appear to have been added to the
text many years later -- and these are the only verses in that book that
mention Christ reappearing after his death.
Another critical passage is in 1 John, which explicitly sets out the Holy
Trinity (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit). It is a cornerstone of
Christian theology, and this is the only place where it appears in any of
the Bibles -- and it appears to have been added to the text centuries later,
by an unknown scribe.
For a man who originally believed the Bible was the inspired Word of God,
Ehrman sought the true originals to shore up his faith. The problem: he
found there are NO original manuscripts of ANY of the Bibles - Old or New
Testaments!
If the history of the resurrection of Christ had not really happened, the
message . . . according to the authority of the apostle Paul, had to be
'null and void'. Ehrman slowly came to a horrifying realization: There was
no real historical record. It was, he felt, no more than myths and fables,
told by illiterate men and not set down in writing for decades that
followed.
There is no solid agreement even within the Christian community on the
interpretation of the Bibles. There are 18 English versions alone. There are
thousands of variations and opinions as to the meaning of various Biblical
statements.
If Jesus was God, why did he not leave behind an authentic record of his
rules and commands? Why are there NO Biblical documents written during his
'claimed' time on earth? The Old Testaments were written 'before his birth'.
The New Testaments were written '60 and more years after his death' by men
that could never have known Jesus personally. NONE were written during his
'claimed' life time. Studies by Tony Busby indicate the new testaments were
really not compiled until the third century by the church leadership at the
time.
There is NO objective verifiable evidence as to their authenticity and
veracity. The Bibles contain both historical and scientific errors. They
contain manifest absurdities, unfulfilled prophesies, immoralities,
indecencies, obscenities, atrocities, barbarities, myths, folklore and
legends. They are nothing more than hearsay, myths, contradictions and
implausible tales.
Here is just a small sampling of implausible Bible stories.
The story of creation
A totally illogical Biblical story is the story of creation. It is obviously
pure fiction.
Genesis says that God created first the earth, then the Sun and Moon.
We know from astronomical data that our Sun and Moon is much older than the
earth. And all of these are older by eons than man. Only uneducated
egocentric humans could have written such nonsense.
Biblically, God created the world about six thousand years ago. 'Scientific
Evidence' indicates the Universe, as we now know it, began more than 13
BILLION years ago or more.
In the Bible, the Universe is a firmament and the Earth is a fixed (not to
mention flat) Planet and the Son, Moon and other planets revolve around the
earth. This was believed until modern scientific inquiry showed this was
totally false. We now KNOW the Earth revolves around the Son and the
Universe is over 20 BILLION light years in diameter and is made up of
trillions of Stars and Planets of which our planetary system is a very
miniscule and inconsequential part. There was no concept of a 'Universe' in
Biblical times.
Everything beyond our immediate Son and planets was considered Heaven.
In the Bible the earth is created in the first day, before the Son, Moon and
Stars. Objective scientific evidence is that the Earth did not form until
approximately 10 BILLION YEARS after the beginning of the present Universe
and after the formation of the Son, and many other stars.
The Creation of the World
Genesis
In the beginning of creation, when God made heaven and earth, the earth was
without form and void, with darkness over the face of the abyss, and a
mighty wind that swept over the surface of the waters. God said, Let there
be light, and there was light; and God saw that the light was good, and he
separated light from darkness. He called the light day, and the darkness
night. So evening came, and morning came, the first day. God created light
before he created the Sun and the Moon!
Astronomical evidence shows the Son existed long before the Earth; therefore
the earth was not created before the Son. It is equally obvious that the
writers of that time thought the World was the center the firmament and that
they had no conception of the size and nature of the Universe. Everything
beyond the Sun and Moon was considered to be gods Heaven
God said, Let there be a vault between the waters, to separate water from
water. So God made the vault, and separated the water under the vault from
the water above it, and so it was; and God called the vault heaven. Evening
came, and morning came, a second day.
God said; Let the waters under heaven be gathered into one place, so that
dry land may appear; and so it was. God called the dry land earth, and the
gathering of the waters he called seas; and God saw that it was good. Then
God said, Let the earth produce fresh growth, let there be on the earth
plants bearing seed, fruit-trees bearing fruit each with seed according to
its kind. So it was; the earth yielded fresh growth, plants bearing seed
according to their kind and trees bearing fruit each with seed according to
its king; and God saw that it was good. Evening came, and morning came, a
third day.
And this good and loving God created animals that eat other animals (and
man) and poisonous plants and snakes that kill!
God said, Let there be lights in the vault of heaven to separate day from
night, and let them serve as signs both for festivals and for seasons and
years. Let them also shine in the vault of heaven to give light on earth. So
it was; God made the two great lights, the greater to govern the day and the
lesser to govern the night; and with them he made the stars. God put these
lights in the vault of heaven to give light on earth, to govern day and
night, and to separate light from darkness; and God saw that it was good.
Evening came, and morning came, a fourth day.
Ancient man erroneously thought the stars beyond the Sun and Moon to be
Heaven. The Moon was NOT considered a reflection from the light of the Sun
but a lesser light.
God, said, Let the waters teem with countless living creatures, and let
birds fly above the earth across the vault of heaven. God then created the
great sea-monsters and all living creatures that move and swarm in the
waters, according to their kind, and every kind of bird; and God saw that it
was good. So he blessed them and said, be fruitful and increase, fill the
waters of the seas; and let the birds increase on land. Evening came, and
morning came, a fifth day.
And this all loving God created creatures of that kill and eat other
creatures including man.
Archaeological evidence shows that animals evolved from primitive cells over
a period of about four billion years - not in one day!
God said, let the earth bring forth living creatures, according to their
kind: cattle, reptiles, and wild animals, all according to their kind. So it
was; God made wild animals, cattle, and all reptiles, each according to its
kind; and he saw that it was good. Then God said, Let us make man it our
image and likeness to rule the fish in the sea , the birds of heaven, the
cattle, all wild animals on earth, and all reptiles that crawl upon the
earth. So God created man in his own image; in the image of God he created
him; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, be
fruitful and increase, fill the earth and subdue it, rule over the fish in
the sea, the birds of heaven, and every living thing that moves upon the
earth. God also said, I give you all plants that bear seed everywhere on
earth, and every tree bearing fruit which yields seed: they shall be yours
for food. All green plants I give for food to the wild animals, to all the
birds of heaven, and to all reptiles on earth, every living creature. So it
was; and God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. Evening came,
and morning came, a sixth day.
And God created animals that need to kill and eat other animals including
man in order to survive. This is a loving and caring God?
Thus heaven and earth were completed with all their mighty throng. On the
sixth day God completed all the work he had been doing, and on the seventh
day he ceased from all his work. God blessed the seventh day and made it
holy, because on that day he ceased from all the work he had set himself to
do and rested.
Why would a God that is not physical but spiritual, get tired and need rest?
If this creator is such a loving and caring guy, why does he permit totally
innocent children to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a
fully developed brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.?
Why are some born idiots and others with super intelligence?
Why does this loving and caring god create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes,
Volcanic Eruptions, Wars, cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases and
serious body malfunctions that effect people indiscriminately regardless of
their conduct or religious beliefs? Why does he permit millions of both
young and old to starve to death?
These afflict humans indiscriminately - young and old, atheists and members
of all religious beliefs.
Why did he design humans to suffer the decrepitude and malignancies of old
age? Even those that devote their lives to religious leadership suffer these
punishments of old age.
Why did this caring benevolent god create animals that need to eat other
animals to survive?
If there is a god that created the Universe, he is obviously not an
all-caring and benevolent god. The objective evidence is that, if there is a
god creator, he has no concern about the welfare of the creatures on Earth.
Adam and Eve
In the Bible, there are two different accounts of Adam and Eve's creation.
According to the Priestly (P) history of the 5th or 6th century BC (Genesis
1:1-2:4), God on the sixth day of Creation created all the living creatures
and, "in his own image," man both "male and female." God then blessed the
couple, told them to be "fruitful and multiply," and gave them dominion over
all other living things.
According to the lengthier Yahwist (J) narrative of the 10th century BC
(Genesis 2:5-7, 2:15-4:1, 4:25), God, or Yahweh, created Adam at a time when
the earth was still void, forming him from the earth's dust and breathing
"into his nostrils the breath of life." God then gave Adam the primeval
Garden of Eden to tend but, on penalty of death, commanded him not to eat of
the fruit of the "tree of knowledge of good and evil." Subsequently, so that
Adam would not be alone, God created other animals but, finding these
insufficient, put Adam to sleep, took from him a rib, and created a new
companion, Eve. The two were persons of innocence until Eve yielded to the
temptations of the evil serpent and Adam joined her in eating the forbidden
fruit, whereupon they both recognized their nakedness and donned fig leaves
as garments. Immediately, God recognized their transgression and proclaimed
their punishments-for the woman, pain in childbirth and subordination to
man, and, for the man, relegation to an accursed ground with which he must
toil and sweat for his subsistence. Adam died at the age of 930!
In later Christian theology, the concept of original sin (q.v.) took hold-a
sin in which human kind has been held captive since the fall of Adam and
Eve. The doctrine was based on Pauline Scripture but has not been accepted
by a number of Christian sects and interpreters. Why should BILLIONS of
innocent people be punished over thousands of years for this original sin
that they had no part in?
This is both sadistic and ridiculous!
Jonah
As the story is related in the Book of Jonah, the prophet Jonah is called by
God to go to Nineveh (a great Assyrian city) and prophesy disaster because
of the city's wickedness. Jonah, in the story, feels about Nineveh as does
the author of the Book of Nahum-that the city must inevitably be destroyed
because of God's judgment against it. Thus Jonah does not want to prophesy,
because Nineveh might repent and thereby be saved. So he rushes down to
Joppa and takes passage in a ship that will carry him in the opposite
direction, thinking to escape God.
A storm of unprecedented severity strikes the ship, and it shows signs of
breaking up and foundering. Jonah confesses that it is his presence on board
that is causing the storm. At his request, he is thrown overboard, and the
storm subsides.
A "great fish," appointed by God, swallows Jonah, and he stays within the
fish's maw for three days and nights. He prays for deliverance and is
"vomited out" on dry land (ch. 2).
Totally implausible. He would have been digested by the fish in those three
days!
Sodom and Gomorrah
According to the Bible these cities and everyone in them, except Lot and his
family, were destroyed by fire and brimstone for their sinfulness. Lot's
wife was turned into a pillar of salt for disobeying God's command to not
look back at her city of birth being destroyed.
There is no way that EVERYONE in two cities could be so sinful, especially
innocent children, to deserve destruction by fire and brimstone.
Sodom and Gomorrah constituted, along with the cities of Admah, Zeboiim, and
Zoar (Bela), the five biblical "cities of the plain." Destroyed by"brimstone
and fire" because of their wickedness (Genesis 19:24).
Sodom and Gomorrah probably were devastated about 1900 BC by an earthquake
in the Dead Sea area of the Great Rift Valley, an extensive rift extending
from the Jordan River valley in Israel to the Zambezi River system in East
Africa. When the catastrophic destruction occurred, the petroleum and gases
existing in the area probably contributed to the imagery of "brimstone and
fire"
Cruel, inhumane and pure nonsense!
The Tower of Babel
Genesis 11.1 - 11.9
God became concerned that the Tower being built would reach his heaven.
He confounded the builders by giving them different languages so they could
no longer communicate with each other to continue the construction.
Why would this be of any concern to an all powerful God creator and wouldn't
this God creator realize that no tower could possibly reach his spiritual
heaven?
Noah and the Ark
The Bible is claimed to be the inerrant word of God
The story of Noah and the flood is only one of many ridiculous biblical
tales with no authentication or plausibility of any kind. It is an
impossible story.
1. The largest boat ever built to this day could not even come CLOSE to
housing Noah, his sons, wives and two of every type of animal on earth.
2. How were the 1.7 MILLION species collected in a boat and
cared for by a few people. How did he manage to get them all back to Asia,
Africa, Australia, North America, South America, the Arctic and Antarctic?
3. And this was a boat built of wood many thousands of years ago. There
are 1.7 million KNOWN species of animals on this planet. This story is
patently impossible, using only materials and tools available to Noah, to
build an arch large enough to hold all these creatures, together with
suitable environments for each of them to live in, keeping them all
separated so they don't kill and eat each other. And then provide room and
an environment for many hundreds of millions of known species of insects,
plants, molds etc. on this planet?
4. Where did they house all of the new born during this ten month
escapade?
5. In addition, the ship would have to carry a TEN MONTHS supply of food
and fresh water for the people and thousands of animals for them to survive.
What would the carnivores have eaten? Whatever prey they ate would have gone
extinct. How did they dispose of the thousands of tons of feces? It must
have been one stinking ship!
6. Now according to the Bible the earth was flooded for ten months. This
would kill off all the vegetation. What did the animals eat for an
additional year or more after the flood subsided?
7. Noah sends a dove out to see if there was any dry land. But the dove
returns without finding any. Then, just seven days later, the dove goes out
again and returns with an olive leaf. But how could an olive tree survive
the flood? And if any seeds happened to survive, they certainly wouldn't
germinate and grow leaves within a seven day period. 8:8-11.
8. And according to this myth, Noah was also over 600 years old!
This is a grossly implausible tale that ranks as a greater tale than Santa
Claus, The Wizard of Oz, The Easter Bunny and The Tooth Fairy!
Genesis 6:6
6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was
filled with pain.
7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face
of the earth: men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and
birds of the air-for I am grieved that I have made them."
9 Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he
walked with God.
Genesis 7
1 The LORD then said to Noah, "Go into the ark, you and your whole family,
because I have found you righteous in this generation. 2 Take with you seven
[a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every
kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven of every kind
of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the
earth. 4 Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days
and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living
creature I have made."
6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth. 7
And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives entered the ark to
escape the waters of the flood. 8 Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of
birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, 9 male and female,
came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah. 10 And after
the seven days the floodwaters came on the earth.
This is patently ridiculous and impossible. How could they capture and load
over three million animals in a period of seven days???
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the
second month-on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and
the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12 And rain fell on the earth
forty days and forty nights.
13 On that very day Noah and his sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth, together with
his wife and the wives of his three sons, entered the ark. 14 They had with
them every wild animal according to its kind, all livestock according to
their kinds, every creature that moves along the ground according to its
kind and every bird according to its kind, everything with wings. 15 Pairs
of all creatures that have the breath of life in them came to Noah and
entered the ark. 16 The animals going in were male and female of every
living thing, as God had commanded Noah. Then the LORD shut him in.
17 For forty days the flood kept coming on the earth, and as the waters
increased they lifted the ark high above the earth. 18 The waters rose and
increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the
water. 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under
the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the
mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet. [, 21 Every living thing that
moved on the earth perished-birds, livestock, wild animals, all the
creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22 Everything on dry
land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 Every living thing
on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the creatures
that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped from the
earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.
24 The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.
This of course would have also killed all the vegetation on Earth!
Genesis 7:6 (New International Version)
6 Noah was "six hundred" years old when the floodwaters came on the earth.
7 And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives entered the ark to
escape the waters of the flood
Genesis 8
1 But God remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestock that
were with him in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, and the waters
receded.
3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and
fifty days the water had gone down,
4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on
the mountains of Ararat.
5 The waters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the first day
of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible
And what did they eat until all the vegetation recovered from the flood???
Genesis 9 God's Covenant with Noah
1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and
increase in number and fill the earth.
2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and
all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground,
and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands.
3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you
the green plants, I now give you everything.
4 "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.
5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand
an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too, I will demand an
accounting for the life of his fellow man.
Before man learned how to create a fire, he had no choice but to eat raw
meat!
Samson
Hebrew Shimshon, Israelite hero portrayed in an epic narrative in the Old
Testament (Judg. 13-16). He was a Nazirite (q.v.) and a legendary warrior
whose incredible exploits hint at the weight of Philistine pressure on
Israel during much of the early, tribal period of Israel in Canaan
(1200-1000).
Samson was claimed to possess extraordinary physical strength, and the moral
of his saga relates the disastrous loss of his power to the violation of his
Nazirite vow. Credited with remarkable exploits-e.g., the slaying of a lion
and moving the gates of Gaza-he first broke his religious promises by
feasting with a woman from the neighboring town of Timnah, who was also a
Philistine, one of Israel's mortal enemies. Other remarkable deeds follow;
e.g., his decimating the Philistines in a private war. On another occasion
he repulsed their assault on him at Gaza, where he had gone to visit a
harlot. He finally fell victim to his foes through love of Delilah, a woman
of the valley of Sorek, who beguiled him into revealing the secret of his
strength: his long Nazirite hair. As he slept, Delilah had his hair cut and
betrayed him. He was captured, blinded, and enslaved by the Philistines, but
in the end he was granted his revenge; through the return of his old
strength, he supposedly demolished the great Philistine temple of the god
Dagon, at Gaza, destroying his captors and himself (Judg.16:4-30).
A truly implausible tale!
God created a three level Universe - Heaven above, a flat World resting on
water. Genesis 1:6-10; 7:11; 8:2; 11:11-9; 19:24; 28:12-13; Exodus 20:4;
Numbers 16:30-33; Deuteronomy 33:17.
God created the Sun and the Moon on the fourth day but created light on the
first day! Genesis1:1-9; 14-19
It is claimed that the Eve, first woman, was created from one of Adam's
ribs.
Genesis 3:1-5 Men and women have the same number of ribs on each side of
their body? And in any case why would a god that has created the Universe
and everything in it need to tale rib from Adam to create Eve???
The Bibles claim that a talking snake talked Eve into eating the forbidden
fruit.
The Bibles claim that Adam lived 930 years, Seth 912 years, Enosh 905 years,
Kenan910 years, Mahalael 895 years, Jared 962 years, Methuselah 969 years;
Lamech 777 years, and Noah 950 years. Genesis 5:-31; 9:29
God commanded that every baby boy at age of eight days be circumcised.
At that time sterilization (of knives) was unknown and many died of
infection for which they new no cure. Why did this almighty and all caring
God create baby boys with foreskins on their penis that he then required to
be painfully and dangerously removed?
This all caring and loving God sent ten horrible plagues upon the Egyptians
Exodus 7:14-12:32 and in his loving generosity gave Israel the land of the
Canaanites and the Israelites slaughtered every person of seven nations.
Twenty one million, men women and innocent children, were slaughtered
according to the Bible. Exodus 12:1-2
This is a loving god???
According to the verse, Jesus was being tempted by Satan, for forty
days. Assuming that Jesus is God, we are required to believe that God
was tempted by Satan, who was created by God in the first place.
[NIV, Mark 1:12-13]
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all
the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give
you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me." Jesus said to
him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your
God, and serve him only.' " [NIV, Matthew 4:8-10] If Jesus is God,
would the Devil promise him that he will give him the kingdoms of the
world when all the all kingdoms of the world were created by and already
belong to God??
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God in the Bibles classifies bats as birds when anyone with an elementary
knowledge of biology knows that bats are flying MAMMALS!
Letiviticus11:13, 19
This God can't control his temper resulting in killing thousands of people.
Numbers 11:31-35; 25:1-9
He and Moses ordered the Israelites to kill all the male and Female
Medianites who had ever had sex but to spare the young women who were
virgins and keep them for themselves to enjoy. Numbers 31:14-1
Jeremiah:16:1: The word of the LORD came also unto me, saying,
2: Thou shall not take thee a wife, neither shall thou have sons or
daughters in this place.
3: For thus saith the LORD concerning the sons and concerning the daughters
that are born in this place, and concerning their mothers that bare them,
and concerning their fathers that begat them in this land;
4: They shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither
shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth:
and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses
shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.
5: For thus saith the LORD, Enter not into the house of mourning, neither go
to lament nor bemoan them: for I have taken away my peace from this people,
saith the LORD, even loving kindness and mercies.
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According to the unerring Bible, the earth is the oldest object in the
Universe. (Genesis 1:1), snakes can talk (Genesis 3:1-5), and Man had
dominion over the dinosaurs (Genesis 1:26, 28)."
Really??? The Earth did not come into existence until 10 BILLION years after
the Universe. Man came into existence MILLIONS of years AFTER the extinction
of the Dinosaurs.
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God is satisfied with his works
[Gen 1:31]
God is dissatisfied with his works.
[Gen 6:6]
God dwells in chosen temples
[2 Chron 7:12,16]
God dwells not in temples
[Acts 7:48]
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Jesus' claimed last words on the cross, 'My God, my God, why hast thou
forsaken me?' Hardly seems like the words of a god that created and
controlled the whole world and who planned his entry and exit on earth.
More obvious nonsense!
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Additional Bible nonsense too voluminous to quote fully;
Mt.4:8: Gen. 1:6; Deut. 30.4; Job. 9:6,22:13, 26:11; PSA 75.3, 103.12;
1 Sam 2.8; Isa. 13.5, 40.21-22; Dan 4.10-11; Re. 7.1, 20.8; Psa 93:1, 96:10,
105.5Job. 22.14; Rev. 6.14; Acts 10:11; Rev. 6:13, 8:14; Mat. 2:9; Gen 1:16;
Lev.19.27, 11.7,10-12: Mat. 5:17-19; Luke 16:17; Lev. 19.19; Luke 16:1-9;
Amos 3:6; Isa. 45:7; Lev, 18.22, 20.13; Deut. 13.6; Judges 14.20; 1 Sam
16:21-23, 18.1-3; Sam 1:26, 13:3, 15:37, 16:16-17: Mat. 2:13-15; Luke 2:1-7,
21; Gen. 11.6, 18:21, 27:33; Exod. 9:14, 12:12; Num 33.4; Deut. 3.23; Exod.
18:11; Eccl. 9.5-6, 9:10; Job 7.9-10, 13:28, 14:1-2, 14:1-2, 10-12, 21; Prov
2:18-19; Eccl. 10:17, 17:27, 28, 30, 19.3, 44:9; wisdom 2:1-5
This is just a sampling of ridiculous Bible tales. The Bibles are obviously
a mixture of fiction, fables, folklore and pure nonsense.
And these Bibles were dictated by God??? Then this God must be a demented
idiot.
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Title: Re: A Few Questions for the Bible Literalists 14 Oct 2006 10:12:35 PM