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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Pastor Dave"
Date: 05 Mar 2005 04:47:58 PM
Object: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE.....
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 04:11:04 -0800, after pondering
deep thoughts, jw <j w<no>@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
Here was a response I sent to John...
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:30:56 -0800, after pondering
deep thoughts, jw <j w<no>@yahoo.com> spake thusly:

I am not a "KJV only" person. I just haven't found
many modern English versions that I would consider
trustworthy and when dealing with God's word, I think
we had all better be very careful about which version
we choose to read. After all, this is God's written
word to mankind we are dealing with. It is of the
utmost importance!

As I said, there are modern English versions based on
the Majority Texts. I simply have not read those
versions cover to cover and can't speak for every
verse, but they appear to be very well done."

http://tinyurl.com/4f77z


...and you apologize for calling me a "KJV Only" person
and then later call me one again...


Perhaps that is just your "spin."

That's why I include URL's. So that people know that
it's not "my spin".

You think you can get away with your lying about
people, because you think that your "no-archive"
setting protects you. It doesn't.


That is not why I don't archive. And when you
say it is, YOU lie.

If it isn't archived, then how was I able to provide a
URL to it? It gets archived for five days, when you
set the no-archive bit. Don't believe me, go search
for a post you wrote two days ago and see for yourself.

You cut me NO slack for my admitted mental illness

You don't deserve any. You think admitting you have a
mental illness gives you the right to lie about people
and libel them all you want, with a free pass. It
doesn't. The fact is, that since you know you have
this problem, then your sin does not disappear.
Rather, it remains, since you know you have and are
going to lie and libel people and insult them and yet,
you continue anyway. Thus, your own words shall be
your judge.
"Jesus said to them, If you were blind, you would have
no sin. But now you say, We see; therefore, your sin
remains." - John 9:41 [LITV]
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He then responded with the following...
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:43:09 -0500, Doc
<Doc@Watson.yup> wrote: copyright 2005 John Weatherly
all rights reserved (keep it in the group)

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:52:15 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> sez the following
funny stuff:


You don't deserve any. You think admitting you have a
mental illness gives you the right to lie about people
and libel them all you want, with a free pass.

That's a lie, and since you continue to repeat that
same lie, that is called "pathological lying."
*********************************************************************************
I now respond as follows...
How is it a lie, when I have documented you doing it?
At least have the brain power to realize that you
shouldn't call someone a liar, when they have posted
proof in the VERY SAME THREAD that you just responded
with this in! DUH!
Here it is again for all to see...
******************************************************************************
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 17:55:35 -0800, after pondering
deep thoughts, jw <j w<no>@yahoo.com> spake thusly:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 14:43:05 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved
(keep it in the group)

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:52:14 -0700, after pondering
deep thoughts,

spake thusly:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:01:37 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> jotted down:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:16:47 -0700, after pondering
deep thoughts,

spake thusly:


The trouble is that there are those who believe the
pseudo-scholarship of the kjv-onliers that is wholly
illogical and mostly void of truth.


And both you and John, when you cannot refute the
points made, lie and say that someone is KJV Only, so
you can trot out your standard attack on them, which
has nothing to do with scholarship, but on attacking
their position on the KJV itself, regardless of
underlying texts.


There you go, LYING ABOUT WHAT I SAID AGAIN.
I said that though you CLAIM NOT TO BE a kjv-onlier,
you still fall into the above camp of BELIEVING their
pseudo-scholarship.


You said that LATER, after I AGAIN corrected you, as I
have more than once in the past.

And with your arrogant hyper-inflated sense of
self-importance, it never occurs to you that no
matter how many times you "correct" someone,
that doesn't make you right.

It does when I provide proof...
Pastor Dave: "There are other options though. I would
research different modern English translations and see
what they're based on, if a modern English version is
what I wanted.
I am not a "KJV only" person. I just haven't found
many modern English versions that I would consider
trustworthy and when dealing with God's word, I think
we had all better be very careful about which version
we choose to read. After all, this is God's written
word to mankind we are dealing with. It is of the
utmost importance!
As I said, there are modern English versions based on
the Majority Texts. I simply have not read those
versions cover to cover and can't speak for every
verse, but they appear to be very well done."
http://tinyurl.com/4f77z
....and you apologize for calling me a "KJV Only" person
and then later call me one again...
Pastor Dave: You keep dishonestly trying to spin this
into a "KJV Only" issue and it isn't. Thus, you prove
you are dishonest and frankly, I'm done with you.
John (jw): #1 I apologize. Sometimes it takes me awhile
for information to penetrate. Now that I have seen you
explain your position to several others, I understand
that you are not a declared KJV Only person.
http://tinyurl.com/3wv7a
Thus, you admitted that you did do it. You also
apologized for it.
You think you can get away with your lying about
people, because you think that your "no-archive"
setting protects you. It doesn't.
Now here you are again, claiming that I am wrong and
defending the claim that I am a KJV Only person.
You are a liar and a bad one at that.
************************************************************************
I'm sure John will now respond and claim that I am
lying, even though his words are documented above and
referenced with URL's (although with his "no-archive"
bit they do expire after five days, but they might
still be there and I can just replace them with a URL
of my response, with his words quoted anyway).
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
.

User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 05 Mar 2005 04:56:48 PM
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 22:47:58 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 04:11:04 -0800, after pondering
deep thoughts, jw <j w<no>@yahoo.com> spake thusly:



Here was a response I sent to John...

PD
Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.
BB
.
User: "P.T."

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 06 Mar 2005 02:36:04 PM
"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:k8ek21tguouvupasjvfq5lnfctrbhsprrd@4ax.com...

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

Really! I came to this group because I thought it was about prophesy, not
SQUABBLING!
Patty
.

User: "Michael Christ"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 06 Mar 2005 01:58:38 PM
Pastor Dave wrote:
(snip a waste of time).

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB

I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.
Michael
.
User: "P.T."

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 06 Mar 2005 04:27:29 PM
"Michael Christ" <mike_au1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:OhJWd.186746

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB


I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.

I agree as well. I just finished "chatting" with PD and I feel like I've
been stabbed - 100 times! I'm not sure I belong in this group, oh well.
Patty
.
User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 06 Mar 2005 04:28:30 PM
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 22:27:29 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "P.T." <pt@yahoo.com> spake thusly:


"Michael Christ" <mike_au1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:OhJWd.186746

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB


I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.



I agree as well. I just finished "chatting" with PD and I feel like I've
been stabbed - 100 times! I'm not sure I belong in this group, oh well.

Patty

You seem to think that lying is okay.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
.
User: "Michael Christ"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 06 Mar 2005 04:36:11 PM
Dave wrote:

You seem to think that lying is okay.

For goodness sake Dave, wake up.
To deliberately ignore the truth is the action of a liar.
Michael
.
User: "P.T."

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 06 Mar 2005 05:43:21 PM
"Michael Christ" <mike_au1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:vBLWd.186814$K7.77248@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Dave wrote:

You seem to think that lying is okay.


For goodness sake Dave, wake up.

To deliberately ignore the truth is the action of a liar.

Not to mention the actions of a "hater"!!
Patty
.




User: "Jason Gastrich"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 06 Mar 2005 05:19:27 PM
Michael Christ wrote:

Pastor Dave wrote:
(snip a waste of time).

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB


I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.


Michael

Hi Michael,
Welcome to free.christians.
Please introduce yourself and tell us about your faith.
God bless,
Jason
--
--------
Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
http://www.jcsm.org
Over 90,000 web pages!
John 8:36 reads, "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be
free indeed."
Galatians 5:1 reads, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which
Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of
bondage."
ICQ#: 20731140 . AIM: MrJasonGastrich . YIM: Jesus_Saved_Jason
.
User: "Michael Christ"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 06 Mar 2005 08:48:31 PM
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eMWd.41456$xX3.18995@twister.socal.rr.com...

Michael Christ wrote:

Pastor Dave wrote:
(snip a waste of time).

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB


I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.


Michael


Hi Michael,

Welcome to free.christians.

Please introduce yourself and tell us about your faith.

God bless,
Jason

Hi Jason,
Well, One Father, One Lord Jesus, One Spirit, One Faith, One Hope, One Love.
How's that for starters?
Do you see many 'free' Christians, Jason?
Michael
.
User: "Jason Gastrich"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 06 Mar 2005 11:27:57 PM
Michael Christ wrote:

"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eMWd.41456$xX3.18995@twister.socal.rr.com...

Michael Christ wrote:

Pastor Dave wrote:
(snip a waste of time).

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB


I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.


Michael


Hi Michael,

Welcome to free.christians.

Please introduce yourself and tell us about your faith.

God bless,
Jason


Hi Jason,

Well, One Father, One Lord Jesus, One Spirit, One Faith, One Hope,
One Love.

How's that for starters?

Do you see many 'free' Christians, Jason?

Michael

Hi Michael,
Sounds wonderful. What kind of church do you attend? Do you affirm the
gospel message on my site? Link: http://gospel.jcsm.org
I see many free Christians in San Diego. I don't see a lot on usenet.
God bless,
Jason
--
--------
Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
http://www.jcsm.org
Over 90,000 web pages!
John 8:36 reads, "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be
free indeed."
Galatians 5:1 reads, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which
Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of
bondage."
ICQ#: 20731140 . AIM: MrJasonGastrich . YIM: Jesus_Saved_Jason
.
User: "Michael Christ"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 08 Mar 2005 04:25:52 PM
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xDRWd.41770$xX3.37566@twister.socal.rr.com...

Michael Christ wrote:

"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eMWd.41456$xX3.18995@twister.socal.rr.com...

Michael Christ wrote:

Pastor Dave wrote:
(snip a waste of time).

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB


I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.


Michael


Hi Michael,

Welcome to free.christians.

Please introduce yourself and tell us about your faith.

God bless,
Jason


Hi Jason,

Well, One Father, One Lord Jesus, One Spirit, One Faith, One Hope,
One Love.

How's that for starters?

Do you see many 'free' Christians, Jason?

Michael


Hi Michael,

Sounds wonderful. What kind of church do you attend?

I don't go to any denomination.
Do you affirm the

gospel message on my site? Link: http://gospel.jcsm.org

I'll check it out.
Michael


I see many free Christians in San Diego. I don't see a lot on usenet.

God bless,
Jason
--

--------

Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
http://www.jcsm.org
Over 90,000 web pages!

John 8:36 reads, "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be
free indeed."

Galatians 5:1 reads, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which
Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of
bondage."

ICQ#: 20731140 . AIM: MrJasonGastrich . YIM: Jesus_Saved_Jason


.

User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 07 Mar 2005 05:26:34 AM
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:27:57 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com>
spake thusly:

Michael Christ wrote:

"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eMWd.41456$xX3.18995@twister.socal.rr.com...

Michael Christ wrote:

Pastor Dave wrote:
(snip a waste of time).

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB


I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.


Michael


Hi Michael,

Welcome to free.christians.

Please introduce yourself and tell us about your faith.

God bless,
Jason


Hi Jason,

Well, One Father, One Lord Jesus, One Spirit, One Faith, One Hope,
One Love.

How's that for starters?

Do you see many 'free' Christians, Jason?

Michael


Hi Michael,

Sounds wonderful. What kind of church do you attend? Do you affirm the
gospel message on my site? Link: http://gospel.jcsm.org

And now Jason hawks his wares again. (:
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
.
User: "Michael Christ"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 08 Mar 2005 04:24:24 PM
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5ieo21dkdcsocscghmjocbps54e25sqse6@4ax.com...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:27:57 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com>
spake thusly:

Michael Christ wrote:

"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eMWd.41456$xX3.18995@twister.socal.rr.com...

Michael Christ wrote:

Pastor Dave wrote:
(snip a waste of time).

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB


I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.


Michael


Hi Michael,

Welcome to free.christians.

Please introduce yourself and tell us about your faith.

God bless,
Jason


Hi Jason,

Well, One Father, One Lord Jesus, One Spirit, One Faith, One Hope,
One Love.

How's that for starters?

Do you see many 'free' Christians, Jason?

Michael


Hi Michael,

Sounds wonderful. What kind of church do you attend? Do you affirm the
gospel message on my site? Link: http://gospel.jcsm.org


Dave wrote:

And now Jason hawks his wares again. (:

Go and do something useful Dave.
Michael
.




User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: A FREE PASS FOR JOHN??? YOU DECIDE..... 07 Mar 2005 05:25:53 AM
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 23:19:27 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com>
spake thusly:

Michael Christ wrote:

Pastor Dave wrote:
(snip a waste of time).

Don't you realize how ridiculous posting these things over and over
again under different heades make you look.

BB


I agree Dave. Step back and look. You need to be looking within.


Michael


Hi Michael,

Welcome to free.christians.

Please introduce yourself and tell us about your faith.

God bless,
Jason

As usual, when someone attacks me, Jason wants to get
to know them better. <chuckle>
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
.





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