Religions > Bible > A Person wrote...and a challenge to all those who like to hear the sound of their own voice...
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"Michael Christ" |
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02 Aug 2003 07:13:02 PM |
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A Person wrote...and a challenge to all those who like to hear the sound of their own voice... |
You can paint me as evil as you like, but the message in me remains the
same,
and is true.
A person wrote:
Listen to me Michael. Listen very carefully. I know where you are,
No you do not.
A person wrote:
You are without sin when you confess of your current sin.
No. This is error in spirit. You are not without sin, another 'current
one' comes along doesn't it. Does a corrupt tree bring forth good
fruit? Does a good tree bring forth corrupt fruit?
You are blind to where I am, and where you are.
This is where I am...and this is why you fall short...
A person wrote:
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we
have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Michael Christ wrote:
I am just waiting for your _all_.
Confess that all of you is sin.
And then see what happens.
A person wrote:
Confess something that you cannot see in yourself.
Not likely.
Michael Christ wrote:
Then you have work to do.
'Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?'
If a man is in error of spirit in anything he is in error of all.
Confess that all of you is sin (you'll have to mean it), then see what
happens.
Then _you_ can say 'it is finished'.
Then you can have your say about me and what I am.
All or nothing.
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The Holy Spirit has come.
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My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
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Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
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| User: "Alexander Kalinowski" |
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| Title: Re: A Person wrote...and a challenge to all those who like to hear the sound of their own voice... |
08 Aug 2003 08:26:14 AM |
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In alt.religion.christian Michael Christ <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote:
: You can paint me as evil as you like, but the message in me remains the
: same,
: and is true.
Alex:
You can paint me as willful as you like, but the message in me remains the same
and is true.
: A person wrote:
:> Listen to me Michael. Listen very carefully. I know where you are,
: No you do not.
Alex:
But I do.
: A person wrote:
:>You are without sin when you confess of your current sin.
: No. This is error in spirit. You are not without sin, another 'current
: one' comes along doesn't it. Does a corrupt tree bring forth good
: fruit? Does a good tree bring forth corrupt fruit?
Alex:
There are no corrupt trees, except to a tree that sees corrupted fruit.
: You are blind to where I am, and where you are.
Alex:
No, I am not. You are blind to where I am and where you are.
: This is where I am...
Alex:
Understood.
: and this is why you fall short...
Alex:
And your lack of falling short in the same way is what is currently
corrupting you.
: A person wrote:
:>If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
:>sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we
:>have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
: Michael Christ wrote:
:>I am just waiting for your _all_.
Alex:
And we're all just waiting for you.
:>Confess that all of you is sin.
:>And then see what happens.
: A person wrote:
:>Confess something that you cannot see in yourself.
:>Not likely.
: Michael Christ wrote:
:>Then you have work to do.
:>'Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?'
: If a man is in error of spirit in anything he is in error of all.
Alex:
You are in error of all.
: Confess that all of you is sin (you'll have to mean it), then see what
: happens.
Alex:
Even if I did so, you wouldn't recognize my doing so for what it is.
: Then _you_ can say 'it is finished'.
Alex:
You can't. Even then you can't. Which is the source of your corruption.
: Then you can have your say about me and what I am.
Alex:
Well, since I do not desire that, I'll pass... :-)
: All or nothing.
Alex:
Or neither. Yes.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: The Holy Spirit has come.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
: In them is no darkness at all.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Waiting for you to return.
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| User: "Qolon" |
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| Title: Re: A Person wrote...and a challenge to all those who like to hear the sound of their own voice... |
02 Aug 2003 07:38:44 PM |
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Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:LNkUa.14712$OM3.3128@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
How about focusing on word and deed?
QOLON NOTE:
Frankly I have better things to do with my time in these newsgroups, than to
be beguiled by the imaginings of a weak-willed boy "Michael Christ"
<jesus_au@bigpond.com>: "Don't take any notice of the bigotry and ignorance
of Colon, Rick, he has a bowel obstruction that has given his brain faecal
compaction.
You are most welcome to come and participate in my Australian newsgroup at
any time; be free and free indeed...just mention my name...I mean it."
["Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com>, Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:06 AM]
"Rick Foster" <spoker@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:3F29B9F4.9B099BD2@concentric.net...
BTW you should not be ashamed of your American Breathren. This is the only
time I will put aus.religion.christian back in the headers. I just didn't
think it fair that your Australian Brothers weren't kept abreast of your
letters to America and the rest of the world.
QOLON NOTE:
If one can't exercise compassion here, where can one?
8) Transforming Nature [He {5+1 = 6 /#6}]
- Act of Nature (#5 - Pythagorean Tetragrammation of 'YHWH' as {72J} +
3(32+1)/2 as 15 Units {2W1D} = {72J2W1D} - 457 BCE)
#magic sum #3 = 457BCE, 438BCE, 407BCE, #6 = 361BCE, 297BCE, 212BCE, #9 =
103BCE, #10 = 33CE ... #17 = 2008CE
9) Autonomous Nature [Waw {6+6 = 12 /#5}]
- Form of Nature (#6 - cryptic Messianic prophecy in midst of 69th
week {72J71W5D} - 30CE being that 10J = 490 years = 33 CE)
The Forma Corporis as a mathematical, esoteric/transcendental and Torah
based theological Kabbalistic chronological conception:
Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² and n(n²+1)/2 = {ie.
#magic sum #3 = 15CE, 34CE, 65CE, #6 = 111CE, 175CE, 260CE, #9 = 369CE ...
#15 = 1695CE, TELOS = 13 September, 2001CE, #16 = 2056CE
Principles of democratic autonomy are sustained by a 369 day
chronological/mathematical matrix as the Merkabah (ie. Kabbalistic) mystical
(transcendent/metaphysical) foundation for a perennial solar/lunar {ie.
9(9²+1)/2 (369) - 3(3²+1)/2 (15) = 354 lunar cycle} philosophy uniting
reason and faith and the mechanism for {#11, #2, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/
Administraton of Government}.
10) Totality of Nature [Zayin {7+10+50 = 67 /#4}]
- Engendering Nature (#7 - Telos Topical year/day solar eclipse Monday
25 December, 2000 + 6 days = 122J3W1D : 6,000 / 666 = 9.009 ... (6
remaining)) ... 9(92 +1)/2 = 369 {52W5D or 9 x 41} days with center #41 Mem
= Thursday, 13 September, 2001 [#41 #41/(#41 - Playing with Reversal; cf:
vKabbalah JavaScript Class for Microsoft Internet Explorer Vsn 6.0) Hebrew
Calendar: {4 x 91 [30+30+31] Quarters (364 days : 1092 / 3 = 364 days)} + 5
CHAD? 354 day lunar year x 3 years = 1062 + 30 day month = 1092 days : 1092
/ 369 = 2 x 369 + 354 as typical lunar year & 9(92 +1)/2 {52W5D} - 3(32
+1)/2 {2W1D} = 354 as typical lunar year; For example:
{385 days} 29 Sept, 2000
{353 days} 17 Sept, 2001 +
{354 days} 6 Sept, 2002 +
{385 days} 26 Sept, 2003 = 1092 days]{v's Jubilee 2000 myth as fraudulent
claim to Christianity by the Roman Catholic Church et al}]
- Qolon
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/vkabbalah.html?9/13/2001>
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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"Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:410Wa.1353$bo1.938@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Cliche M[i]chael,
What do you mean by ICU, which I gather is a medical unit of some sort.
[{ie. Intensive Care Unit}.]
Intensive Care Unit.
I'm sure the readers [will] draw a comparision between your on-line
newsgroup compassion and the nature of your work (if not lifework).
How compassionate of you. :-).
BTW I've trimmed aus.religion.christian from the response.
"Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:9K%Va.1314$bo1.1249@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Cliche Michael,
How then do bedpans relate to where you work?
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:LN%Va.1330$bo1.1241@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
I said that where I work bedpans are a luxury. Meaning that in ICU they are
too sick most of the time to use a bedpan. It is usually straight into the
bed.
Want a job?
New Name wrote:
What is a nurse who changes bedpans? Answer: a nurse that changes
bedpans.
QOLON NOTE:
Whether a reprobate or not, depends largely on what you do with those
bedpans--Are you still or were you ever employed as a psychiatric nurse?
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:iG%Va.1294$bo1.495@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
No.
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:BmZVa.1125$bo1.834@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Where I work, bedpans are a luxury.
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:2x_Va.1229$bo1.1079@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
....not a *****?
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:isYWa.7118$bo1.6954@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
You can paint me as evil as you like, but the message in me remains the
same, and is true.
A person wrote:
Listen to me Michael. Listen very carefully. I know where you are,
No you do not.
A person wrote:
You are without sin when you confess of your current sin.
No. This is error in spirit. You are not without sin, another 'current
one' comes along doesn't it. Does a corrupt tree bring forth good
fruit? Does a good tree bring forth corrupt fruit?
You are blind to where I am, and where you are.
This is where I am...and this is why you fall short...
A person wrote:
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we
have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Michael Christ wrote:
I am just waiting for your _all_.
Confess that all of you is sin.
And then see what happens.
A person wrote:
Confess something that you cannot see in yourself.
Not likely.
Michael Christ wrote:
Then you have work to do.
'Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?'
If a man is in error of spirit in anything he is in error of all.
Confess that all of you is sin (you'll have to mean it), then see what
happens.
Then _you_ can say 'it is finished'.
Then you can have your say about me and what I am.
All or nothing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Holy Spirit has come.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "Michael Christ" |
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| Title: Re: A Person wrote...and a challenge to all those who like to hear the sound of their own voice... |
03 Aug 2003 06:02:29 AM |
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"Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:nU3Xa.7621$bo1.6909@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Correction on the #17 from 472BCE ought to be 1993CE and not 2008CE.
#magic sum #3 = 457BCE, 438BCE, 407BCE, #6 = 361BCE, 297BCE, 212BCE, #9 =
103BCE, #10 = 33CE ... #17 = 1993CE
- Qolon
Oh noooooooooooooooooo, now I am going to have to go back and do all my
calculations again!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Holy Spirit has come.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "Alexander Kalinowski" |
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| Title: Re: A Person wrote...and a challenge to all those who like to hear the sound of their own voice... |
08 Aug 2003 08:29:40 AM |
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In alt.religion.christian Michael Christ <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote:
: You should rejoice Qolon.
Alex:
Even if you don't Qolon, it will just be same difference.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: The Holy Spirit has come.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
: In them is no darkness at all.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--
Waiting for you to return.
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| User: "Qolon" |
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| Title: Re: A Person wrote...and a challenge to all those who like to hear the sound of their own voice... |
03 Aug 2003 10:01:22 PM |
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What do you make of this:
122J3W1D = 6,000 years
6J = 294 years (known to King David in circa 1040 BCE)
20 x 6J = 1880CE + 2J = 1978CE + 22 {3W1D} = 6,000 years {1979CE & 2001CE
both commenced on Monday & are identical being 22 years apart}
- Qolon
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:9Z5Xa.7797$bo1.6356@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Oh noooooooooooooooooo, now I am going to have to go back and do all my
calculations again!!!
"No. This is error in spirit. You are not without sin, another 'current
one' comes along doesn't it. Does a corrupt tree bring forth good
fruit? Does a good tree bring forth corrupt fruit?
You are blind to where I am, and where you are." ["Michael Christ"
<jesus_au@bigpond.com> ]
QOLON NOTE:
Cliche Michael,
How is it you only now seem to require such knowledge of things:
72J2W1D = magic sum #3 = 457BCE ... #10 = 33CE = 70 weeks
"Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city, to
finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for
iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteouness, to seal up the vision and
prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy.
A mathematical, esoteric/transcendental and Torah based theological
kabbalistic chronological conceptions: Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² and
n(n²+1)/2 = {
ie #magic sum
#3 = 15CE, <-- much vaulted Saturn Golden Age / Caesar Augustus dead
34CE, <-- 457BCE + 490 years {70 weeks cryptic messianic prophecy = 33CE}
65CE, <-- Hebrew Torah Scholar, Greek Philosopher, Christian Apostle Paul
soon to Rome
#6 = 111CE,
175CE,
260CE,
#9 = 369CE ...
#15 = 1695 CE, TELOS = 13 September, 2001 CE {122J3W1D = 6000},
#16 = 2056 CE
Then shall he confirm a covenant with many for one week he shall brng an end
to sacrifice and offering. and on the wing of abominations shall be one who
makes desolate, even unto the consummation, which is determined, is poured
out on the desolate." [Daniel {God is my Judge} 9:24, 27]
If one can't exercise compassion here, where can one?
8) Transforming Nature [He {5+1 = 6 /#6}]
- Act of Nature (#5 - Pythagorean Tetragrammation of 'YHWH' as {72J} +
3(3²+1)/2 as 15 Units {2W1D} = {72J2W1D} - 457 BCE)
#magic sum #3 = 457BCE, 438BCE, 407BCE, #6 = 361BCE, 297BCE, 212BCE, #9 =
103BCE, #10 = 33CE {70 weeks cryptic Messianic prophecy} ... #17 = 1993CE
9) Autonomous Nature [Waw {6+6 = 12 /#5}]
- Form of Nature (#6 - cryptic Messianic prophecy in midst of 69th
week {72J71W5D} - 30CE being that 10J = 490 years = 33 CE)
The Forma Corporis as a mathematical, esoteric/transcendental and Torah
based theological Kabbalistic chronological conception:
Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² and n(n²+1)/2 = {ie.
#magic sum #3 = 15CE, 34CE, 65CE, #6 = 111CE, 175CE, 260CE, #9 = 369CE ...
#15 = 1695CE, TELOS = 13 September, 2001CE, #16 = 2056CE
Principles of democratic autonomy are sustained by a 369 day
chronological/mathematical matrix as the Merkabah (ie. Kabbalistic) mystical
(transcendent/metaphysical) foundation for a perennial solar/lunar {ie.
9(9²+1)/2 (369) - 3(3²+1)/2 (15) = 354 lunar cycle} philosophy uniting
reason and faith and the mechanism for {#11, #2, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/
Administraton of Government}.
10) Totality of Nature [Zayin {7+10+50 = 67 /#4}]
- Engendering Nature (#7 - Telos Topical year/day solar eclipse Monday
25 December, 2000 + 6 days = 122J3W1D : 6,000 / 666 = 9.009 ... (6
remaining)) ... 9(9² +1)/2 = 369 {52W5D or 9 x 41} days with center #41 Mem
= Thursday, 13 September, 2001 [#41 #41/(#41 - Playing with Reversal; cf:
vKabbalah JavaScript Class for Microsoft Internet Explorer Vsn 6.0) Hebrew
Calendar: {4 x 91 [30+30+31] Quarters (364 days : 1092 / 3 = 364 days)} + 5
CHAD? 354 day lunar year x 3 years = 1062 + 30 day month = 1092 days : 1092
/ 369 = 2 x 369 + 354 as typical lunar year & 9(9² +1)/2 {52W5D} - 3(3²
+1)/2 {2W1D} = 354 as typical lunar year; For example:
{385 days} 29 Sept, 2000
{353 days} 17 Sept, 2001 +
{354 days} 6 Sept, 2002 +
{385 days} 26 Sept, 2003 = 1092 days]{v's Jubilee 2000 myth as fraudulent
claim to Christianity by the Roman Catholic Church et al}]
- Qolon
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/vkabbalah.html?9/13/2001>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Holy Spirit has come.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "Alexander Kalinowski" |
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| Title: Re: A Person wrote...and a challenge to all those who like to hear the sound of their own voice... |
08 Aug 2003 08:28:23 AM |
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In alt.religion.christian Michael Christ <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote:
: "Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote in message
: news:60kXa.8871$bo1.6273@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:> What do you make of this:
:>
:> 122J3W1D = 6,000 years
:>
:> 6J = 294 years (known to King David in circa 1040 BCE)
:>
:> 20 x 6J = 1880CE + 2J = 1978CE + 22 {3W1D} = 6,000 years {1979CE & 2001CE
:> both commenced on Monday & are identical being 22 years apart}
:>
:> - Qolon
: I haven't got a clue, Qolon.
Alex:
Same difference.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: The Holy Spirit has come.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
: In them is no darkness at all.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--
Waiting for you to return.
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| User: "Bored With The Bitch" |
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| Title: Re: A Person wrote...and a challenge to all those who like to hear the sound of their own voice... |
04 Aug 2003 08:02:42 PM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:01:22 GMT, "Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote:
What do you make of this:
Sounds like you have been hanging around here: http://for-god.net/
122J3W1D = 6,000 years
6J = 294 years (known to King David in circa 1040 BCE)
20 x 6J = 1880CE + 2J = 1978CE + 22 {3W1D} = 6,000 years {1979CE & 2001CE
both commenced on Monday & are identical being 22 years apart}
- Qolon
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
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Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.
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| User: "New Name" |
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04 Aug 2003 12:15:16 AM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 04:32:12 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote:
I haven't got a clue, Qolon.
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| User: "Alexander Kalinowski" |
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08 Aug 2003 08:28:52 AM |
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In alt.religion.christian New Name <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote:
: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 04:32:12 GMT, "Michael Christ"
: <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote:
:>I haven't got a clue, Qolon.
Alex:
How similar you and your siblings are.
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Waiting for you to return.
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| User: "Bored With The Bitch" |
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03 Aug 2003 06:57:10 AM |
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 00:38:44 GMT, "Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote:
Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:LNkUa.14712$OM3.3128@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
How about focusing on word and deed?
QOLON NOTE:
Frankly I have better things to do with my time in these newsgroups, than to
be beguiled by the imaginings of a weak-willed boy "Michael Christ"
<jesus_au@bigpond.com>: "Don't take any notice of the bigotry and ignorance
of Colon, Rick, he has a bowel obstruction that has given his brain faecal
compaction.
Faecaliths in the circle of Willis does seem to be a common affliction amongst
born-agains.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
ICQ <disabled> | -- Bardic Motto
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Abstinence is the most un-natural of the sexual perversions.
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