It's too bad you can't get a refund for your public school education,
which is really the only place you can learn something so irrefutably
wrong.

Then refute it.

Unbelievable that a person actually has to debate fourth-grade US
history with leftists, they are so ignorant.

"The Japanese began the war from the air at Pearl Harbor. They have
been repaid many fold.

Why was the atomic bomb necessary, when there is evidence that Japan
would have to stop in a couple of months, due to supplies shortages?

"If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a rain of ruin
from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth."
(Public Papers of the Presidents, Harry S. Truman, 1945, pg. 197,
199).


"Having found the bomb we have used it. We have used it against those
who attacked us without warning at Pearl Harbor, against those who
have starved and beaten and executed American prisoners of war,
against those who have abandoned all pretense of obeying international
laws of warfare. We have used it in order to shorten the agony of war,
in order to save the lives of thousands and thousands of young
Americans.

This is an exaggeration. Japan could not have gone on for much
longer.

"We shall continue to use it until we completely destroy Japan's power
to make war. Only a Japanese surrender will stop us." (Public Papers
of the Presidents, Harry S. Truman, 1945, pg. 212).

They were GOING to have to surrender. Or just stop fighting,

NOW--what were Hiroshima and Nagasaki supposed to protect America
from???

Dunno, what were they dropped to protect us from? Why were they
necessary?

So why aren't you fighting?

Because I am a female and too old. There is no place in combat for
women, old or otherwise.

There is a place in combat for young women.

Or are you one of the "greater good?"

Depends on what you are comparing. Comparing a free society with
repressive terrorist nations like those in the Middle East, I'll side
with the US.

Not that the U.S. uis anywhere near perfect...

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Now we see you don't really honestly care that

civilians die, as

long
as they live in certain countries.

That would be the Republicans.

Um, Truman was a Democrat.

So?

So Truman was the one that bombed Hiroshima, which included a

great many

civilians.

And saved hundreds of thousands of Americans.

From what? Pearl Harbor was a military target. Only 68 civilians
were killed there.

It wasn't about Pearl Harbor.

It's too bad you can't get a refund for your public school education,
which is really the only place you can learn something so irrefutably
wrong.

Then refute it.

Unbelievable that a person actually has to debate fourth-grade US
history with leftists, they are so ignorant.

"The Japanese began the war from the air at Pearl Harbor. They have
been repaid many fold.

Why was the atomic bomb necessary, when there is evidence that Japan
would have to stop in a couple of months, due to supplies shortages?

"If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a rain of ruin
from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth."
(Public Papers of the Presidents, Harry S. Truman, 1945, pg. 197,
199).


"Having found the bomb we have used it. We have used it against those
who attacked us without warning at Pearl Harbor, against those who
have starved and beaten and executed American prisoners of war,
against those who have abandoned all pretense of obeying international
laws of warfare. We have used it in order to shorten the agony of war,
in order to save the lives of thousands and thousands of young
Americans.

This is an exaggeration. Japan could not have gone on for much
longer.

"We shall continue to use it until we completely destroy Japan's power
to make war. Only a Japanese surrender will stop us." (Public Papers
of the Presidents, Harry S. Truman, 1945, pg. 212).

They were GOING to have to surrender. Or just stop fighting,

NOW--what were Hiroshima and Nagasaki supposed to protect America
from???

Dunno, what were they dropped to protect us from? Why were they
necessary?

Communism WAS bad. So is terrorism. But neither justified our
reaction.

If doing bad things to eradicate things that are worse, then you must
be against lawsuits, police apprehension, prison sentences, etc.

I think you are worse.

Worse than what?

I think Bush is worse.

Worse than what?

Does that mean it is

time for "eradication?"

You tell me.

As for "lawsuits, police apprehension, prison

sentences," none is a panacea for "eradicating things that are worse."

Is putting someone in a cell (bad) a just reaction to theft and murder
(very bad)?

Would you prefer that thieves and murderers were free to roam the
streets to continue stealing and killing unchecked?

Innocent people always die during war. Democrats killed innocent
people, too, in WW2 and Vietnam.

You blame American deaths in WWII and Vietnam on JUST the Democrats?

Not a bit partisan are you? Vietnam was both parties' fault. Nixon,
LBJ, etc. It wasn't one party. WWII had almost unanimous support,
except for the unrealistic isolationists.

No argument there. That doesn't make it acceptable.

It does if the innocent people dying unintentionally is for a greater
good, to solve a worldwide problem, or to eradicate a great evil.
Appeasement doesn't work and never has.

So why aren't you fighting?

Because I am a female and too old. There is no place in combat for
women, old or otherwise.

There is a place in combat for young women.

Or are you one of the "greater good?"

Depends on what you are comparing. Comparing a free society with
repressive terrorist nations like those in the Middle East, I'll side
with the US.

Not that the U.S. uis anywhere near perfect...

People who think like you are dangerous and cowardly.

How is that, exactly?

You should run

for President under the Republican ticket in 2008.

Hm, I am not qualified to be the president.

--S

Unbelievable that a person actually has to debate fourth-grade US
history with leftists, they are so ignorant.

"The Japanese began the war from the air at Pearl Harbor. They have
been repaid many fold.

Why was the atomic bomb necessary, when there is evidence that Japan
would have to stop in a couple of months, due to supplies shortages?

"Having found the bomb we have used it. We have used it against those
who attacked us without warning at Pearl Harbor, against those who
have starved and beaten and executed American prisoners of war,
against those who have abandoned all pretense of obeying international
laws of warfare. We have used it in order to shorten the agony of war,
in order to save the lives of thousands and thousands of young
Americans.

This is an exaggeration. Japan could not have gone on for much
longer.

"We shall continue to use it until we completely destroy Japan's power
to make war. Only a Japanese surrender will stop us." (Public Papers
of the Presidents, Harry S. Truman, 1945, pg. 212).

They were GOING to have to surrender. Or just stop fighting,

NOW--what were Hiroshima and Nagasaki supposed to protect America
from???

Dunno, what were they dropped to protect us from? Why were they
necessary?

You blame American deaths in WWII and Vietnam on JUST the Democrats?
Not a bit partisan are you? Vietnam was both parties' fault. Nixon,
LBJ, etc. It wasn't one party. WWII had almost unanimous support,
except for the unrealistic isolationists.

It's too bad you can't get a refund for your public school education,
which is really the only place you can learn something so irrefutably
wrong.

Then refute it.

Unbelievable that a person actually has to debate fourth-grade US
history with leftists, they are so ignorant.

"The Japanese began the war from the air at Pearl Harbor. They have
been repaid many fold.

"If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a rain of ruin
from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth."
(Public Papers of the Presidents, Harry S. Truman, 1945, pg. 197,
199).

That doesn't say the bombing was about Pearl Harbor, simple minded
one....

"Having found the bomb we have used it. We have used it against those
who attacked us without warning at Pearl Harbor, against those who
have starved and beaten and executed American prisoners of war,
against those who have abandoned all pretense of obeying international
laws of warfare. We have used it in order to shorten the agony of war,
in order to save the lives of thousands and thousands of young
Americans.

"We shall continue to use it until we completely destroy Japan's power
to make war. Only a Japanese surrender will stop us." (Public Papers
of the Presidents, Harry S. Truman, 1945, pg. 212).


NOW--what were Hiroshima and Nagasaki supposed to protect America
from???

Japan and Imperialism.

Now we are the imperialists.

Communism WAS bad. So is terrorism. But neither justified our
reaction.

If doing bad things to eradicate things that are worse, then you must
be against lawsuits, police apprehension, prison sentences, etc.

I think you are worse.

Worse than what?

Worse that what you were referring to.

I think Bush is worse.

Worse than what?

Worse that what you were referring to.

If you don't know what you were
talking about, what does that say fore you?

Does that mean it is

time for "eradication?"

You tell me.

You said it, not me.

As for "lawsuits, police apprehension, prison

sentences," none is a panacea for "eradicating things that are worse."

Is putting someone in a cell (bad) a just reaction to theft and murder
(very bad)?

Depends.

To the simple minded it probably makes sense, though.

Would you prefer that thieves and murderers were free to roam the
streets to continue stealing and killing unchecked?

And being elected President?

(Bush is both a thief (he was arrested
for it)

and a murderer.

So why aren't you fighting?

Because I am a female and too old. There is no place in combat for
women, old or otherwise.

The military takes females today.

Why not take up a support position?

Or are you one of the "greater good?"

Depends on what you are comparing. Comparing a free society with
repressive terrorist nations like those in the Middle East, I'll side
with the US.

We are no longer a free society

and we are the repressive nation.

People who think like you are dangerous and cowardly.

How is that, exactly?

You like war

You should run

for President under the Republican ticket in 2008.

Hm, I am not qualified to be the president.

It hasn't stopped Bush.